In this episode of the TPE Blueprint Podcast, host Joe Fier sits down with Dr. Janet Eng, a former emergency medicine physician turned functional medicine expert, now working with MD Lifespan. Dr. Eng shares her compelling journey from high-stress ER shifts to the world of longevity and wellness, drawing on her background in medical toxicology and passion for helping people live healthier, more vibrant lives. Together, Joe and Dr. Eng dive into the “car engine” analogy for human health, discuss the transformative effects of Therapeutic Plasma Exchange (TPE), and explore alternative modalities like red light therapy and PEMF. Dr. Eng also offers practical tips for managing stress, minimizing toxins at home, and building a sustainable approach to personal wellness.

Topics Discussed

• Dr. Eng’s Transition from ER to Functional Medicine: Insights into why Dr. Eng moved from emergency medicine to a focus on wellness and longevity after experiencing her own health challenges.
• Understanding Functional Medicine and Toxicology: How Dr. Eng’s background influences her approach to patient care, focusing on underlying causes rather than simply managing symptoms.
• "Car Engine" Health Analogy: A memorable explanation of how our bodies function like engines—needing the right fuel, maintenance, and “oil changes” (TPE).
• Therapies for Cellular and Mitochondrial Health: Quick overviews of red light therapy, PEMF (Pulsed Electromagnetic Field), and frequency-specific microcurrent and how these can support healing.
• Breaking the Cycle of Chronic Inflammation: The role of toxins, lifestyle changes, and advanced therapies in combating fatigue, inflammation, and other health issues.
• Real-Life Impact of TPE: Dr. Eng’s personal experience with TPE and stories from patients who have experienced improved quality of life and symptom relief.
• Managing Household Toxins: Practical advice from Dr. Eng’s ER experience on how to avoid common toxic exposures at home, especially for families with young children.
• Mindset and Lifelong Learning: Encouragement for listeners to stay curious, proactive, and open to new health strategies at any stage of life.
• The Importance of Community and Movement: How finding supportive communities and continuing to move—through activities like CrossFit and jiu jitsu—are key to ongoing wellness.

Resources Mentioned

• MD Lifespan: https://mdlifespan.com/
• Dr. Eng works with this organization focused on advanced longevity and wellness therapies including TPE.
• Wellness Alternatives: https://wellnessalternativesmi.com/
• Dr. Eng’s own practice, highlighting her approaches to integrative and functional health.
• Therapeutic Plasma Exchange (TPE)
• Not a book or product, but frequently referenced—described as a cutting-edge “oil change” for your body.
• PEMF (Pulsed Electromagnetic Field) & Red Light Therapy
• Modalities Dr. Eng discusses for improving microcirculation, calming the nervous system, and reducing inflammation. 

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MDLifespan PlasmaXchange protocols are designed to support general health and wellness. They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. The information provided on this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not replace medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before beginning any new health program, especially if you have a medical condition or are taking prescribed medications.

Have you ever wondered why despite healthy habits, that your body still

feels like it's stuck in neutral?

So could there be some overlooked toxins that are hiding in

plain sight in your home?

In this episode, I invited Dr. Janet Eng to expose what the everyday

risks are that we all face that are probably derailing your health.

Let's dive in.

All All right.

Dr. Janet Ing, it's awesome to have you here the TPE Blueprint Podcast.

Thank you.

How you doing today?

Thank you.

Thank you for having me.

You're doing good.

Yeah, no.

no.

So you, I've been wanting to chat with you for a while.

Um, the MD lifespan team, you know, that's of course what, um, Dr.

Paul Savage has been heading up.

You're now part of it as well.

Right.

Yes, yes.

So I came on board.

I, uh, started in emergency medicine.

I call myself a recovering emergency physician.

I've been in the department for 30 years.

Also did a fellowship in medical toxicology.

And so I learned in toxicology all the ways that things can mess up your body.

And so I learned, uh, to switch over.

I fun.

I switched over to functional medicine to learn how I can, you know, help the body.

And so doing that, I came onto MD Lifespan, uh, with that, uh, background.

Yeah.

I mean, 30 years in er, that's a. Kind of like Dr. Paul.

Yeah.

Savage.

I mean, very similar story, right?

Like seeing how that works to where you're working now.

I mean, I, I guess how does that, how do you think about that and, and because

it's so different, it seems like, and I'm sure you've seen so many changes too.

It is.

So, emergency medicine is very much what we call a young person's profession.

It's very hard on the body.

It's a big adrenaline rush.

Um, it's like, what can I do?

How can I fix it?

It's that go, go, go.

But then what you really learn is that after, you know, 20, 30

years, I. We're not go, go going anymore because we feel horrible.

Our sleep is disrupted.

I remember one night I was working a night shift and I thought, oh my

gosh, my kidneys are killing me.

And I realized it was my adrenals probably squeezing all the last that they

could to keep me going for this trauma.

And so it, it made me realize that, you know, my health was failing and so I had

to get out of emergency medicine and, and let the younger people carry on the torch.

Wow.

So is, so that was a realization and you're like,

I'm literally burning myself out

I am, and I used to have hives and I was, uh, you know, I had the weight gain

and the sleep disorders and everything, and I wasn't getting any better.

And I remember being told that, you know, how you, uh, live at 40 will determine

how you live at 50 and then at 60, and I wasn't doing very well at all.

I had, uh.

Hormone eruption and endocrine disruption, and my cortisol was

off and I thought, you know what?

If I don't do something now, I don't think I'm gonna live to see

my kids graduate from college.

And what, what, uh, how old were you at that point when you

kinda made that big old shift?

I was probably 40.

feel like that's a pretty common age where people are starting start to realize,

Right.

oh, wow.

Yeah.

Like you said, it's how you do things in your fifties, and then that's when

things kind of start peaking up, you know?

Popping up, Right.

Right.

And you know, in my twenties and thirties I was pretty active and I used

to do triathlons and I ran marathons and ultra marathons, and I realized

I can't keep doing that anymore.

So what's the, I guess, yeah, on your track, because you know, of course

just kind of bringing in you into the picture here because you've seen a lot,

but also just for yourself, it sounds like you made this shift to, um, well,

you, you understand toxicology, you know, so you, you know, how that kind of

plays in then functional medicine, was that pretty immediate, that shift that

you, that you did from the ER space?

No, you know what?

It took me a while in the emergency department.

I kept seeing people coming in with diabetes and hypertension.

I think the big realization was when they started listing me as their primary care

provider, I was like, whoa, wait a minute.

I don't know that.

And, uh, where I'm emergency medicine, how can I be your primary care provider?

And that made me realize I'm seeing all these people.

They're not getting any better.

And so that's why I learned about functional medicine and I started

off with diets and supplements.

It was a good place to start, right?

And I got some of those patients better that I was seeing, but I couldn't, um,

either get 'em across the finish line or get 'em to stay over the finish line.

And it was like putting premium gas into broken down engines.

So, um, I started working post COVID, of course, during COVID.

I went back into the emergency department post COVID.

I came out and I started looking at quote unquote, the engine work of a patient.

So I looked at the cells and the mitochondria, which is the powerhouse

of the cells I was looking at, um, different things like, uh, red light or

photobiomodulation and PEMF and methylene blue, all these things energetically.

To get the cell, the engine work to work better.

And then it was a nice segue because when Dr. Savage asked me to come

on board here at MD Lifespan, we're the oil changers of the car.

I said, well, it makes sense.

I've been working with gas, I've been working with the engine of the car.

Why not work with the oil change?

I want you to break down this whole, like how you visualize it

and see it and communicate it.

This whole car analogy.

'cause it's so, yeah.

Dr. Savage, he has said on this podcast numerous times, it's, you

know, TPE Therapeutic Plasma Exchange is like an oil change for your body.

And the way he describes it, it makes perfect sense, but

it goes even deeper than that.

it does because, you know, you can get the best premium gas out there.

Right.

But if your cells can't take it in, if you can't get rid of the toxins, if,

like in the, at the cellular level, if you can't metabolize and, and use

that gasoline, you know, it's like putting all that gasoline in a car.

It's not gonna go any anywhere.

So, And so, and you know, I figured like the engine work that I do,

I'm doing the old fashioned spark plugs and those types of things.

Uh huh.

Well, mitochondria, right?

Like they're Yeah, they have to, they're being fed.

Um, what?

Oxygen, right?

Correct.

And, and yeah.

And so I guess what's, what's happening with a dirty engine or

the engines that aren't being, uh, maintained like you, you would like to.

Well, like, if you don't have the engines maintained, you're gonna have

chronic fatigue, you're gonna have increased aging, you're gonna have

more, uh, inflammation, joint pain broken down, you know, and it's gonna

lead to more diabetes, heart disease, strokes, those types of things.

And it's just, it's just that vicious cycle.

Um, it's, and people always go, what came first?

The chicken or the egg?

Sometimes we don't really know, but we gotta break the cycle somewhere.

And, and when you describe this to folks, is it, I guess, when is the

moment when you, is it when they're just asking about how this all works or is

it after a certain kind of test or, I. Just kinda curious how this fits in.

Well, when patients come to me, uh, they go, well, I don't feel very well.

And you know, of course I get the history and go, okay, why don't you feel well?

And then so I start looking at the ways and like I start with some of the basic

things I'd look at is body composition.

'cause you don't know where you're gonna go if you don't know where you're at.

And looking at resting metabolic rate, which is what is your metabolism.

And then like, You know, people, they wanna be able to do things.

And a lot of people think, I just deal with athletes.

And I said, well, I started with athletes because my kids were athletes.

But really, if you think about it, everybody's an athlete.

It doesn't matter what you wanna do, whether you wanna play hockey or

lacrosse or do that, or if you just wanna get up off the floor after

playing with your kids on the ground.

Or here's one if you wanna put your suitcase in that overhead bin in the air.

On the airplane, we're all athletes.

We have to do that.

And so I started looking at, you know, how can we function and what

do we need to do and what, what's our metabolism and, and what's our

heart rate and how well can we adjust?

And then, um, the other thing too I'd like to look at is we're all in this

fight or flight, sympathetic overdrive.

And part of healing is you need to be in what we call parasympathetics

or their rest, digest, and heal well in today's society.

We don't get to do that.

We're we on our cell phones?

We don't turn off.

We drive in traffic.

Someone cuts you off and the phone's always, you know,

something's always happening.

And we're constantly in sympathetic overdrive.

And so some of the things that I do looks at how can I look and get people back

into the parasympathetic mode so that they can start to rest, digest, and heal.

Yeah, that's, that's huge.

What are some of the, I guess, uh.

The things that you would recommend folks to do to get

into that parasympathetic state?

Well, if they wanna just do some basic things, it would be get off your phone.

Um, you know, don't lose your phone, uh, like several hours

before bed so you can sleep.

Uh, the, the calming, the, uh, meditation, the breathing, those things.

Then there's things that I do in my practice.

So I am really big into certain PEMF machines, so that way I can

help with microcirculation and get the parasympathetics going.

I also use, uh, microcurrent machines and use frequencies

to help calm the sympathetics.

Um, so, and then also photo biomodulation or red light machines.

So I, in my practice, I do some other techniques to kind of help

get the parasympathetics involved.

Interesting.

Can you, um, like.

Maybe overview without going super deep.

'cause I'm sure it's like a full episode or two in themselves.

'cause I'm, I'm very curious, just like on the red light, that's something

I'm starting to research more, but like what you just said with the

P-P-E-M-F machine frequency red light.

I guess maybe just a quick overview just so we're all kind of

knowledgeable so we can at least explore more after the episode here.

Right.

So one of the best things that I like to talk about is the frequencies.

Um, you know, our cells are all based on a frequency and people

go, well, what are frequencies?

Well, if you think about a car fob, right?

And you wanna go and you click that car fob, it's not gonna

open every door on that lot.

There's certain cars that it's gonna like your, hopefully your car only

that it opens and unlocks that car.

So it's a certain frequency.

So our cells have certain frequencies are, um, there's, I guess I don't, the

best thing to say is like conditions.

That affect the cells.

And so with those frequencies, you can calm down inflammation, you can calm

down scarring, you can calm down that overdrive so that way you put it back

into a neutral, uh, type of state.

So that's, I really liked doing that, uh, treatment modality.

And actually that was the first thing I really learned and got into when I

started doing more functional medicine.

interesting.

And how does that is, is that all from hearing, like

actually listening and then that

No, it's, it's actually like you, uh, send fre frequencies

through parts of your body.

So you have electrodes like at one area to another, and then you're just

like, it's almost like a tens unit.

You know how, you know how tens unit work, but this is actually not

stimulating the muscle in that regard.

It's actually working on the different frequencies of the

cells and everything like that.

Okay.

I like that a lot.

And yeah, everything is frequency energy.

Mm-hmm.

So that's great.

Um, anything on the PEMF or um, red light that we should be aware of?

At least

as it

PEMF.

Everybody goes, well what is PEMF?

Is it we know about EMF?

Like that's bad for you, right?

That's the 5G.

That's the phone, that's all.

Well, PEMF is pulse electromagnetic field versus like the EMF.

And so with those pulses, they pulse at certain frequencies or

hertz, and there's calming hertz, and then there's more, um, like.

Anti-inflammatory heart.

So the way you think about it, 'cause not all PEMF is created equal, so

we use a lot of PEMF in healing.

Like the orthopedic surgeons wanna use it for like say a shoulder.

Well, would they want the power that going in the shoulder to be the same

power coming out of the shoulder?

For, to make sure it heals all the way through.

But what I'm using PMF is a lot lower frequency because I

wanna relax the nervous system.

I wanna l relax the blood vessels, I wanna relax something called, if this

is a whole nother story, but the G lymphatics, the glymphatic system, right?

So we're calming all of that down.

If I use that.

That frequency that we use on shoulder repair, I'd be

blasting out the blood vessels.

And so there's different P EMFs that are used to help calm things down versus heal.

I see.

Yep.

And then the light or the photobiomodulation, we all, you know,

light the, the sun that's huge out there.

And we know about different waves.

Well, we also talk about irradiance and the power of light.

So it's light and different frequencies that work on the body in different ways.

Like red light versus infrared.

Infrared is deeper.

It causes more, um, heat and those types of things.

And then like, blue is better for skin.

And, you know, it just, it's kind of like that whole science of

light and using it appropriately.

Interesting.

Yeah, and I know a lot more studies are coming out too

about red light and just, yeah.

You see a lot of these, uh, people out there starting to

use it and machines offered and.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Yeah, I think of the car, um, you know, analogy that

you said, and even what you're saying here with the P-P-E-M-F and frequencies

is it's targeting inflammation, right?

Like it's, it's trying to chill things out in mitochondria.

It's trying to calm that calm things down, help with the inflammation, and then

getting the mitochondria working better.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And then that's where what, you have more of the clean engine, right?

Like, so it, it, it sounds like you're kind of attacking it

from all these different angles.

Right.

Yes.

In, in a good way, right?

Yeah.

And then, and then the nutrients and the supplements that I've been using

will hopefully be more effective because now I have a better engine.

And now, you know, instead of, I, I, I think about like when my dad made

me help on the old carburetor engines, and we had to change the spark plugs

and you had to check the, uh, the distance in between the plugs and the,

you know, and to make sure it fired.

So now I feel like we're firing better because the plugs are, are good on you.

They're cleaned out.

Yeah.

And they're firing at the right frequency or whatever it is a spark.

Yeah.

you know, this is something that I know we talked about, but it seems

like these are a lot of alternative type therapies, but I. Like, what

are, what are your thoughts on that?

Because a lot of what you're saying here isn't the, the mass, you know, public

knowledge of how you would, uh, you know, you would aid one of these ailments

you might have, or Yeah, if I'm tired, I'm gonna go do something else or take

this supplement or medication even.

But

so like the, they call this quote unquote alternative medicine in or new or people

think it's new, but it's really not.

If you really start really looking at to the history of the different things, uh,

like red light, obviously that's not new.

Looking at frequency specific microcurrent, that's not new.

Um, that's actually been around.

Quite a while, and even back in the 19, um, twenties, 1910s, they started

using it in Europe with the frequencies.

But then what happened was, and you've probably heard this, the Flexner

report came out in around 19 10, 19, 20 ish, and then Mc Pharma came,

and so it got pushed to the side.

Because we started using other things.

Now there is a time and a place for medicine.

Now, don't get me wrong, I, I am trained in emergency medicine, so if you have a

heart attack or a car accident, don't come looking for my alternative, you know, the

alternative therapy or other modalities.

But these things were actually used in medicine, and then

they got pushed to back.

And then the other one is, um, using red light.

In blood and they called it, um, ultraviolet blood irradiation.

And people would think, well, that's crazy out there.

Well, no, actually that was the way they traded sepsis for so long.

And then if you look at some of the literature in Russia and Germany,

they still use that quite a bit.

We have adopted antibiotics, but there's a reason why you use light

and and treat the blood that way.

In the UV light and in the hospitals, we actually are using

more UV light and we use it to sterilize our hospital equipment.

And different things and, and even during COVID, we were using a little

bit more UV light to see if it would help sterilize some of our things

and our, our masks and whatnot.

So there is a purpose for it.

So it's not new.

Wow, that's pretty cool.

That's, I didn't realize that was being used in, or it's starting to be used

now in hospitals and, and whatnot.

In fact, in our emergency department, we had a little UV light machine.

And so when, you know, N 90 fives were really hard to get at the very beginning,

we would actually take our N 90 fives and put it in a UV light machine.

Did we have good evidence to show that it worked?

Not really, because we had never, you know, encountered

a pandemic like this before.

But it is like we thought, well, there's UV light, we should at least try it.

And so, like I said, it's not anything new.

Right.

Yeah.

It's not new at all.

It's just how it's applied.

Right.

I mean, similar to TPE, you know, therapeutic plasma exchange.

It's, it's, it's been around for a while, but it's just the application

of it and how it's, I guess, angled

Right.

What's, um, and I'm thinking of.

Well, I think, uh, I don't know, like toxins in my mind, you know,

uh, equate to, uh, inflammation.

And that's pretty much what you're, you're focused on here with the,

the different therapies as well.

How does, how do you see toxins at play with everything here?

So you're right, toxins are at play.

They do affect everything.

We just don't know.

Are still learning how much the toxins actually affect us.

And I think that's where I really like this TPE.

The next part of my journey is because we're starting to see how cleaning

out patients with plasma exchange is really helping their inflammation.

And if I may share my story, so.

I've had TPE, I've had three treatments, and prior to my three treatments,

I used to break out in hives all the time no matter what I ate.

And I lived on steroids and I lived on uh, antihistamines.

And since I've had my three TPEs, I haven't had that problem.

So I just know that cleaning out the toxins has been a huge benefit for me.

And that was for, how long before were you, were you in that cycle?

Oh gosh.

Well.

Since COVID

Okay.

even before COVID a little bit, so quite a while, and I just had

my TPEs just starting January.

Oh, so yeah, that was a good five-ish years or whatever it is.

Yeah.

Wow.

So you had three sessions.

Yeah.

'cause it's always kind of multiple.

Um, that's, that's fascinating.

What other takeaways, I guess from your perspective, things

that you can share here?

I mean, that's a, that's a huge takeaway.

yeah, and not to totally, you know, violate HIPAA or anything like

that, but there's, there's people that, you know, I love talking to

my patients and talking to, uh, people who've had TPE and just their

testimonials of how well they feel and.

One saying that it was the best conversation, uh, they've had with their

spouse, you know, in a long time after that spouse had TPE, um, the energy, the

people who quote unquote slept through breakfast and couldn't get up till noon,

they're now up early in the morning.

Uh, so just hearing how their, um, quality of life.

Has improved.

I think that's huge.

That makes a huge difference.

And I think that's what, in medicine, that's what we wanna do is make

that difference in a patient, improve their quality of life, and

then however we figure out how to do it, I think that's incredible.

Absolutely.

The fact that the technology's here now and you know it, it's, it's

gonna be a lot more widely used.

It's gonna take some time, of course.

Cost or whatever it is.

Situationally.

Yeah, it's, it's the fact that it's here and that there's, you know, we were

talking about toxin testing earlier, Dr.

Savage and I, uh, it's, it's fascinating now that we can see the data, what's,

what's happening to us specifically.

So it's becomes personalized everything.

Right.

And you know, um, that.

Well, so my fellowship was in medical toxicology, so I learned

how all these things hurt you.

So that's, that was really good, you know, um, I guess segue into coming

into TPE, because I worked with pest people, poison with pesticides.

I worked with, you know, all these heavy metals.

I, I saw kids who were being chelated for lead toxicity, so

I saw that as a toxicologist.

I, I remember that so well.

And now.

To be able to say, okay, now I have the next step with plasma exchange

and we could really help these people and get 'em through, is like, it's

like the whole next chapter for me.

Oh, that's so cool.

And that's, that's like what Dr. Savage says too, you know?

It's like, wow, I could see all these things that were not

possible just a couple years

Right.

Well, from your experience working in ER for so long, like what's a, so I'm

thinking of toxins and exposure at home.

'cause it, you know, that's what Dr.

Savage says is one of the most dangerous places, the most

exposure you get from toxins.

What's a, what's a sur surprise?

Household exposure that could land someone in the er.

That's, that's a easy fix or an easier fix.

Well, I, I think one of the big things is, um, you know, I used to teach and

give lectures all over to residencies.

And, uh, the new physicians coming up, one of the lectures that he always

gave was, uh, one pill can kill.

And it was all the medicines that are potentially out there that were on

like high blood pressure medicines and certain, medicines for, uh, blood sugar.

If a 10 kilogram kid or a 2-year-old got into it, one pill, they

could potentially die from that.

So I think that was like a huge, like, oh gosh, there's so much out there.

And, um, just.

Being mindful of your medicines and not putting them in, um, like easy

pill bottles or don't call, don't tell your kids that something is

candy for them to take that medicine because then they won't know is it

really a bad pill or is it candy?

So that's, that's one of the big things.

And then the other big surprise, and one thing that we always saw in the emergency

department is you always wanna try to keep everything in its original, um, container.

So I actually had somebody who put antifreeze in a Mountain Dew bottle and,

um, the person came and didn't realize it was antifreeze and drank it and ended

up in their emergency department because they had ethylene glycol toxicity.

So you always wanna be careful and mindful how you store

your, your household chemicals.

And it's, it's, that's a big deal with kids.

I mean, I have two little ones, five and, and almost two years.

So it's, yeah, kids are curious and they don't know better and.

But yeah, I, I think the big one actually, my big takeaway is keep

things in the bottle in their original bottles, you know, and clearly marked.

And of course, prevent them from getting into 'em.

Right.

And you know, the other thing too is kids are, oh my gosh, kids are quick.

They can move and climb up and get into cabinets faster

than like, I probably could.

So that was the other thing is like not only should you put your, those,

uh, medications and stuff up high, but they should also be locked.

And there's a false sense of security about those, uh, child resistant caps.

The ones that none of us can open as adults, but kids could get into easily.

And really how that came about is it was just enough, um, of a resistance so

that it took longer for kids to get into 'em, so hopefully you could catch 'em.

It's not child.

So the, the thing that people say, oh, it's a childproof

cap, it's not childproof,

It's, it's a time.

It's just giving you more time.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's, that's, that's a heck of a reframe too.

'cause I've never heard it say that way.

But thank you.

Um, man.

Well, yeah.

I'm thinking of from, yeah, just from your perspective of an ER to where

you're at now, you know, even deeper in toxicology, but, uh, functional medicine.

Is there anything.

That that stands out that you think we should know about or, or cover here

that maybe that you're focused on more so now because you have this whole

spectrum of, of experience and also like what are you excited about now that

you know this technology's growing and

Well, I think I want people to realize that health is not easy.

If it was easy, we'd all be healthy.

Um, it does take work, but think about it in the long run is that if you do

the little simple things every day.

To stay healthy, whether it's eating right, whether it's getting enough

sleep, whether it's getting enough sunshine, those type things, uh, things.

Then actually those little things will keep you from that disease state

where now you're taking a ton of medications for X, Y, z. You're in

the hospital, you're at this doctor's office, you're at that doctor's office.

Um, so one thing I just want people to realize is that it's, it's not easy.

It takes some work, but the outcome and the benefit will be so much

better, and I'm excited about that because that's what we're working

on, is helping people get better.

That's right.

Yeah.

No, I love what you guys are doing.

I love that you're working with Dr. Savage and, and the rest

of the, the whole network that he's creating with MD Lifespan.

It's, it's exciting.

Yeah.

I think technology that, how fast it's moving, you know, I'm in the

AI world as well, so I see how it, it pairs up with personalized

medicine and yada, yada, yada.

So it's, yeah, but we still need to take the steps to do it ourself.

Right.

And

it's not.

it, it's not gonna be there overnight.

And you know, even for me, um, so I had a little bit of setback in my health

and, and I'm back at it again and.

And I actually started to do CrossFit again.

And yeah, after running marathons and ultra marathons, I had to take a break,

but now I'm back at it and it wasn't easy.

And in fact, I work out at five o'clock in the morning.

So, you know, getting up early and doing it, there's so many

times you wanna just hit that snooze alarm and go back to sleep.

But now that I'm in the groove and doing is like, oh, this really feels good.

I feel so much better.

It wasn't easy and there are still days.

It's not easy, but you just gotta keep doing it 'cause the, the alternative

That's

a lot worse.

It's, it's easy to hit the snooze and then you just keep it in snooze through life.

And I think the big thing, 'cause I've done CrossFit as well, the community,

any, any time, I mean that's what a lot of us lose or we're not sharing or.

You know, putting ourself out there, you know, but there's other people

out there doing the same thing.

So find your people, you know, and I do a juujitsu now and for about

a year, and I just turned 40 and I was like, oh, am I too old for this?

Right?

It's like, no, it's, it's like the best thing I've ever done.

And I think that's the big that you just hit on it.

You're never too old to start and you don't have to be in

great condition to even start.

I. And you know, and some people might find these, like for me, going

into jujitsu or somebody coming in CrossFit, they might find it

very intimidating, but it's not.

It's a very welcoming world, and I think if you give it a chance and find

the right group, they will take you at whatever stage, nurture you, and

then you will be surprised in a year.

Don't ever look back except to see how far you've come.

That's right.

That's right.

And don't ever quit either.

You just keep, keep moving.

What other choice do you have?

Right?

Exactly.

Because if you're not moving, then you know someone's walking on you there.

something will stop you.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, Janet, this is, this is incredible.

Um, anything else that you wanna leave us with?

I mean, you, you did, you opened my mind to a lot of things.

I'm gonna explore deeper now.

Um, but before we wrap up, um, and also I want to point, you know, point

me to where people can follow you along with and, you know, explore

more about what you have too.

Well, you can, uh, follow, well obviously MD Lifespan at mdlifespan.com,

and then you can look at my page at wellnessalternatives.com and see

all the crazy things that I do and, uh, and, uh, just learn about it.

But I think what I wanna tell patients is that, or tell your listeners,

is don't ever stop learning.

And, um, just because something's not for you doesn't mean it's bad.

It's just not for you.

Right, and it might be good for somebody else, and vice versa, what's good

for them might not be good for you.

So just keep learning.

And I think being a lifelong learner is gonna be super important no matter where

you are in whatever stage you are in life.

And just keep your mind open because the day that you close your mind to something

is a day that you never see past it.

Hmm, that's true.

Yeah.

And.

We all, we all have access to most, the most information we ever

have ever, I think on this planet.

You know, with the accessibility of AI and whatnot to helping out.

But, um, I, yeah, I would echo exactly what you said.

So thank you so much.

Yes.

Uh, thank you for having me.

Awesome.

Yes.

Well have a good one and, uh, we'll talk soon.

All right, thanks.

Alright, Uhhuh.

Bye-Bye.