Between 1800 and 1850, resistance surged across the Caribbean as the enslaved refused to wait for freedom to be granted. But rebellion wasn’t just about battle—it thrived in quiet defiance, spiritual leadership, and intelligence networks. Women played vital but often overlooked roles, shaping revolts from the shadows. From secret messengers to spiritual guides, their impact was undeniable. In this episode, historian Dr. Zara Anishanslin and local experts unravel the ways enslaved women challenged colonial rule, fought for sovereignty, and ensured survival. Their resistance didn’t always take the form of weapons—but it was powerful, strategic, and relentless.
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>> Mr. Richardson: M.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: Even things where women were never a majority, like
Speaker:military participants, there have always been
Speaker:women who have fought in conflicts and battles
Speaker:and wars and picked up arms. They've never
Speaker:been the majority, but they've always
Speaker:been present in these conflicts. And there have always been
Speaker:a certain amount of women who have fought in
Speaker:these engagements, just like men.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Welcome to Whispers of the Past. I'm your host,
Speaker:Fitavit. And this is revolt and the promise of
Speaker:sovereignty. In this episode, we step
Speaker:into the period of 1800 to
Speaker:1850, a time of growing
Speaker:defiance, when resistance against colonial
Speaker:rule surged across the Caribbean.
Speaker:Even as European powers debated
Speaker:abolition, the enslaved refused to wait for their
Speaker:freedom to be granted. Revolts
Speaker:ignited across the region, fueled by
Speaker:whispers of emancipation and the unyielding
Speaker:determination of those still in bondage.
Speaker:But what does it truly mean to resist?
Speaker:Is rebellion only measured by weapons and
Speaker:warfare? Or does it also
Speaker:exist in the quiet acts of defiance that shape
Speaker:history from the shadows?
Speaker:For too long, women's roles in uprising
Speaker:have been overlooked.
Speaker:Yet they were not just witnesses to history.
Speaker:They were strategists, advisors, and
Speaker:bearers of knowledge that sustained entire
Speaker:movements. To begin,
Speaker:historian Dr. Anna Hanslin takes us beyond
Speaker:synthesis. Offering a broader
Speaker:perspective on the Atlantic route,
Speaker:she reveals how women's resistance, though often
Speaker:unseen, was fundamental to the revolutions
Speaker:that reshaped the Caribbean.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: Yes, so some people, I think, assume that men are always
Speaker:the ones who are leading revolts because they tend to
Speaker:be the warriors in revolutions and
Speaker:rebellions. But in pretty much
Speaker:every war, women are present as, um, active
Speaker:fighters as well, whether that's by choice or by
Speaker:accident. And so you do have examples of
Speaker:women actually fighting in. In
Speaker:rebellions in the 18th and 19th century. But
Speaker:I think more importantly, women are present in ways that
Speaker:support the revolution and rebellion in
Speaker:various places in the Atlantic world, um,
Speaker:as people who are spiritual advisors,
Speaker:practical advisors, people who are the keepers of
Speaker:memory in terms of what's happening
Speaker:and things in the past that might inform
Speaker:the the present and their actions. They're also
Speaker:the people who often have their ears to the ground. They can
Speaker:easily collect the latest gossip and the latest
Speaker:news, particularly enslaved women who are
Speaker:laboring inside plantation houses, who
Speaker:are close to their enslavers for various reasons, and sometimes that is
Speaker:because of a sexual relationship. They're conduits
Speaker:of information. And so they can be really
Speaker:important central actors in these sort
Speaker:of networks of communication that Julia Scott and other
Speaker:historians have identified as really important. In
Speaker:Flaming the Fan of Rebellion in the Caribbean in the
Speaker:18th and 19th centuries.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Women'S role in rebellion have often been
Speaker:overshadowed by male dominated narratives.
Speaker:But as Dr. Anna Hansen explains, their
Speaker:contributions extended far beyond combat,
Speaker:encompassing intelligence gathering,
Speaker:spiritual leadership, and direct
Speaker:resistance. What does it truly mean to
Speaker:lead a rebellion? Is it defined solely
Speaker:by those who wield weapons?
Speaker:Or does leadership also lie in the unseen
Speaker:network that sustain revolts from within?
Speaker:In a world where survival often depends on
Speaker:strategy, enslaved women, especially
Speaker:those laboring inside plantation houses,
Speaker:became critical sources of intelligence.
Speaker:Their proximity to enslavers granted them
Speaker:access to whispered plans, shifting political
Speaker:currents, and the hidden tension that could spark
Speaker:an uprising. These
Speaker:women became conduits of knowledge. Their m
Speaker:voices carried vital information through secret
Speaker:networks that historians recognized as
Speaker:essential to the Caribbean resistance movements.
Speaker:But this knowledge came at a cost. For
Speaker:these women, information was both a weapon and a
Speaker:burden, A tool for liberation,
Speaker:yet a risk that could mean a difference between freedom
Speaker:and a deadly punishment.
Speaker:Beyond gathering intelligence, enslaved women also
Speaker:played vital roles as spiritual guides and
Speaker:advisors, drawing upon traditions deeply
Speaker:rooted in West African heritage.
Speaker:These traditions, passed down through generations,
Speaker:offered strength and strategy in time of
Speaker:turmoil. But how did these roles
Speaker:translate into leadership during uprisings? How
Speaker:did the wisdom of women shape the course of the
Speaker:rebellion? Dr. Anna Hanselin
Speaker:explains.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: And I think also among communities where
Speaker:African spiritual traditions are still present
Speaker:and African cultural traditions are really strong,
Speaker:Female leaders in Africa do have, again,
Speaker:different role than they do in white patriarchal
Speaker:European societies. And so, you know,
Speaker:there's a sense that women should be respected as the keepers
Speaker:of collective memory. And the idea that women
Speaker:can be wise and offer counsel to the men
Speaker:who are going to fight and be warriors, and also that there
Speaker:are female spiritual leaders, um, in a lot of West
Speaker:African traditions. And so I think you see all of these various
Speaker:roles, um, of women coming together. But
Speaker:of course, as with what defines their conditions of
Speaker:enslavement, it also can be difficult for women these
Speaker:times of rebellion and revolution, because it's harder
Speaker:for you to run with an army
Speaker:or, um, you know, run to a maroon community.
Speaker:If you have a baby, you know that you're a baby in your
Speaker:arms, that you're breastfeeding, right? And so I think these are
Speaker:again, um, concerns that aren't limited to
Speaker:women. Certainly, you know, men or fathers and have,
Speaker:have familial concerns too. But it was definitely the case
Speaker:in this period that women are the primary
Speaker:caregivers and nurturers, usually of children. And so this is
Speaker:going to affect their ability to be physically
Speaker:present with revolutionary armies and forces.
Speaker:But again, any army or military
Speaker:force, and this is true across
Speaker:Time in the Caribbean, as elsewhere, relies on
Speaker:the labor of women to sustain it. So you have
Speaker:women working as cooks and, um,
Speaker:laundresses and sexual partners and doing
Speaker:all the things that keep an army full of men
Speaker:on, on their feet and in fighting condition. And
Speaker:so you see, you see this again with women involved in
Speaker:slave revolts and rebellions throughout the Caribbean. So
Speaker:I would say they do play a really vital role in
Speaker:multiple ways, even though they're not,
Speaker:obviously, you know, the ones
Speaker:primarily yielding the swords or the bayonets or the
Speaker:musket.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As Dr. Anna Hansen highlights, women were
Speaker:woven into the fairy fabric of resistance. Whether
Speaker:through spiritual leadership, intelligence gathering,
Speaker:or sustaining revolutionary forces, they
Speaker:were indispensable. Yet while these
Speaker:networks of resistance stretched across the Caribbean,
Speaker:each island has its own story to tell.
Speaker:How did these broader movements toward freedom shape life
Speaker:on Sint Eustaceous? To understand the local impact, we turn
Speaker:to Missesutikau, a long term resident and one of
Speaker:the founders of the center of Archaeology and Research.
Speaker:She helps us explore the period of unrest here on
Speaker:Sintostatius and how enslaved individuals
Speaker:sought their own path to freedom,
Speaker:often looking beyond their own shores to
Speaker:islands where slavery had already been abolished.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: This was a time of slavery unrest all through the
Speaker:Caribbean. In
Speaker:1846, the English Islands and, um,
Speaker:granted emancipation of slavery.
Speaker:And so a lot of Irish slaves were trying to escape
Speaker:in those years to the British islands.
Speaker:Oftentimes they were escaping to the Spanish
Speaker:islands because the Spanish were allowed even to be
Speaker:free. The French islands had been
Speaker:granted emancipation of slavery, but after
Speaker:Napoleon came in, they reinstituted
Speaker:the institution of slavery. So the French
Speaker:islands were later in actually
Speaker:recognizing slavery. But this was the time of the
Speaker:unrest and this was the time that slaves were beginning
Speaker:to find out that they had
Speaker:power and that they needed to exercise their
Speaker:power for their own rights.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The early 19th century marked a turning point for
Speaker:Sint Eustatius. While resistance and
Speaker:rebellion were spreading across the region, the island
Speaker:itself was undergoing dramatic changes.
Speaker:No longer the thriving trading hub of the previous
Speaker:century, Stacia faced economic
Speaker:decline, shifting political control and
Speaker:the departure of key merchant groups.
Speaker:What did this mean for those who remained?
Speaker:How did these changes impact the
Speaker:enslaved, free people of color and the
Speaker:landowners who had once shaped the island's
Speaker:economy? Mrs. Sutekau helps us
Speaker:understand the shifting landscape of this era and
Speaker:what it means for Stacia's future.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: I know that there were a lot
Speaker:of involvement, uh, with women
Speaker:who own property here, and
Speaker:that property, um, was often
Speaker:sold during that period. You have
Speaker:to remember, after
Speaker:1816. In early
Speaker:1800s and 1860, when we regained
Speaker:our independence from England
Speaker:and France and became Dutch again to stay Dutch
Speaker:forever, our economy was going
Speaker:down. Our warehouses were closed. The
Speaker:French had closed the warehouses, and the English kept them
Speaker:closed during that period of time. So that by
Speaker:1816, after the war, in 1812, in the
Speaker:United States, station was never more, uh,
Speaker:a, uh, large trading colony. Small amounts of
Speaker:trades may be going on, but we were not needed
Speaker:by the New World at that point in time.
Speaker:So almost all the stuff that was
Speaker:going out here with agricultural. So
Speaker:we were growing crops. We started growing indigo, about that
Speaker:term. We started doing the sisal
Speaker:crop where we were making the rope and everything
Speaker:else. There also was the
Speaker:beginning of our cotton crops.
Speaker:Originally we were growing Sea island cotton
Speaker:and also inferior grades.
Speaker:We lost that contract to Montserrat,
Speaker:supposedly because our good
Speaker:cotton was spiked with some bad cotton.
Speaker:And, um, it did not meet the quality that was needed in
Speaker:England. This was a period that
Speaker:Stacia was greatly
Speaker:decreased economically in its
Speaker:value. It was also a period when
Speaker:people, planters and plantation
Speaker:owners began to leave the island.
Speaker:The Jewish population had already gone.
Speaker:So there were not the Jewish merchant ships that
Speaker:had been here before that were involved
Speaker:in the trade. So because the Jewish
Speaker:population basically left the island
Speaker:by the early 1800, only one Jewish
Speaker:woman left with life, and she died in
Speaker:1846. And, uh,
Speaker:she wasn't even buried on this island. She was either
Speaker:buried with her family in Saint Martin or Nevis
Speaker:or one of the surrounding islands. So
Speaker:that, uh, 1800s to the
Speaker:1850s was the beginning of the
Speaker:decline of St. Eustachia.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As the 19th century progressed, Sint Eustacea
Speaker:was no longer the bustling trading hub it once
Speaker:was. The warehouses were closed,
Speaker:the Jewish merchant community had left, and
Speaker:the island's economy became increasingly
Speaker:reliant on agriculture.
Speaker:While global powers debated abolition, the
Speaker:island's trajectory seemed to shift away from its
Speaker:past dominance. Yet
Speaker:even as Stacia's formal role in the transatlantic
Speaker:enslaved economy declined, the illegal
Speaker:trade in enslaved people continued. As
Speaker:Mr. Richardson, the island's heritage inspector,
Speaker:explains how colonial powers may have
Speaker:abolished the transatlantic and slave trade,
Speaker:but that didn't mean that the practice had
Speaker:truly ended. Instead, the demand for
Speaker:forced labor fueled underground networks,
Speaker:exposing the stark contradictions between
Speaker:abolitionist policies and economic
Speaker:real.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: So we're, uh, now in the beginning of the 19th
Speaker:century, and St. Eustatius of is showing the
Speaker:Caribbean that stage is different. So
Speaker:now think about what I've said about the island
Speaker:changing hands. You know, 22 times in the space of
Speaker:150 years. We're still within that
Speaker:150 years. We're nearing the
Speaker:end of the final change of hands, but we're not there
Speaker:yet. In that period, though, before we go
Speaker:in, it's the late 1790s. Two
Speaker:young Irish boys, no older than
Speaker:25 or on a ship, and they're. Guess
Speaker:what they're doing. They're trying to sell a few
Speaker:enslaved people still. And think about this way. The
Speaker:British have already outlawed the trade between
Speaker:Africa, so that. That has stopped. It's illegal. But
Speaker:then this, These two Irish gentlemen who is then part of, you
Speaker:know, considered British, they are
Speaker:sailing down from the USA and they're being. They go into
Speaker:port and in the letters, you can read the letters
Speaker:today, and you can hear them saying that
Speaker:they've been turned away in this port and that port. And they're
Speaker:heading down now from the area of the Bahamas,
Speaker:it's all British, and they don't know where to go.
Speaker:And they meet up with other
Speaker:traders somewhere in the area of what is now
Speaker:today the Turks and Caicos Islands. And what do they
Speaker:do? They are told that they can get rid of their
Speaker:commodity on Saint Eustatius. So. And
Speaker:they did. So this ship comes into Sint Eustace
Speaker:still with about 10 or 20 enslaved people,
Speaker:and we're talking about the late
Speaker:1790s. So think of it.
Speaker:We're no longer in 1640. We're now in the
Speaker:1790s. And it's still being
Speaker:done. It's still being done illegally. And Stacia is
Speaker:harboring all of that. Stacia is still. After
Speaker:the plundering of Rodney that we spoke about in
Speaker:previous episodes, Stacia is still doing this.
Speaker:It's still being accepted. That goes to show you what
Speaker:the vibe of the island was. And then you see
Speaker:that these two boys, um, these young
Speaker:gentlemen, they succeed in this and then they
Speaker:disappear and they're never seen again. And then you see
Speaker:that fast forward in
Speaker:1798. We're almost
Speaker:in the 19th century, and they still do it. Someone
Speaker:else does it this time. Um, the French.
Speaker:And what you need to remember is that
Speaker:what's interesting is the French Revolution already
Speaker:happened. So you have equality,
Speaker:fraternity, and what's the one,
Speaker:the other one I forgot. Anyway, so the French has
Speaker:this thing, and the French is like, you know,
Speaker:abolishing slavery, et cetera, and before
Speaker:Napoleon reinstates it years after.
Speaker:But what is interesting is that the island is French
Speaker:when that happens. And it's not Dutch,
Speaker:it's not English and, uh, what you will see that in between
Speaker:From M. The 1600s up to now,
Speaker:everyone, the island is changing hands. And no
Speaker:one up to now
Speaker:abolishes slavery.
Speaker:So whether it was illegal to even trade
Speaker:or sell in the French territories, when
Speaker:the minute the French got into Satius, they ramped up
Speaker:the trade in slaves, the minute the British,
Speaker:the Dutch, the minute everyone got it back,
Speaker:this little island, they kept doing it and doing it
Speaker:and doing it. And so that shows you the
Speaker:depth of how far St. Eustatius was already
Speaker:known in the trade of the enslaved people.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The persistence of, uh, the illegal slave trade on
Speaker:Sintostatius underscores the island's deep
Speaker:entanglement in human exploitation,
Speaker:even as abolishment gained ground elsewhere.
Speaker:But as the 19th century progressed, the island's
Speaker:economy adapted. Plantations
Speaker:expanded, bringing new crops, but also new
Speaker:horrors. The enslaved endured extreme
Speaker:brutalities, punishments designed not only to
Speaker:enforce control, but to strip them from their
Speaker:humanity. These practices, passed down
Speaker:through oral histories, reveal the full extent of the
Speaker:violence used to maintain the system.
Speaker:Despite this cruelty, survival and resistance took
Speaker:many forms. As Mr. Richardson continues, he
Speaker:brings us into the heart of these oral histories.
Speaker:Stories that bear witness to the suffering, but also
Speaker:the resilience. This next
Speaker:segment contains descriptions of extreme physical
Speaker:punishment. If you
Speaker:prefer to skip this content, you may fast forward the next
Speaker:three minutes.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: So station life is still pretty much
Speaker:the same, but then there's a change. The
Speaker:plantations that I told you that were amounted to 30
Speaker:are now 76. So the
Speaker:plantation economy goes into
Speaker:full drive. You see that it grows
Speaker:even. So it's like one trade dies and the
Speaker:other one picks up. So then, now you have indigo. You even
Speaker:have a crawfish. You have sugar, you
Speaker:have rum. There's a lot of rum distilleries on the
Speaker:island from back then. And you see this is then ramping
Speaker:up. And then you see that the island is still kind of
Speaker:disconnected from the colonial government or from the
Speaker:Hague at the time. And
Speaker:then there's, of course, the stories. And a
Speaker:lot of these stories that you see are, uh, oral
Speaker:traditions. And I find oral traditions should not be
Speaker:discredited because oral traditions
Speaker:were the local way
Speaker:of keeping stories alive and telling your history.
Speaker:And why I'm going to say this is because many of those oral
Speaker:traditions have proven to be extremely true when
Speaker:it came to St. Eustatius. And when we go into the early
Speaker:20th century, I will give more explanation as to why you
Speaker:reach on the famous golden rock plantation,
Speaker:there's Mr. Moore Sr. And Mr. Moore
Speaker:Jr. The Moore family sounds very English, but
Speaker:it's actually very stationed. They were born on stage, of
Speaker:course, descended from Irish colonists, but they were born
Speaker:on Stacia afterwards. And senior Mr.
Speaker:Moore then is known to have impregnated many
Speaker:of enslaved women. He was also known as the father
Speaker:of the mulattoes on St. Eustatia's and of
Speaker:course, kind of, you know, it's not something to be proud of.
Speaker:But Mr. Moore is then, or Mr. Moore
Speaker:Sr. Is also credited with his harsh,
Speaker:harsh punishment. Punishment, like his son later,
Speaker:to the enslaved people. And what you see is
Speaker:there's many examples of oral traditions of women
Speaker:being placed in ditches to where
Speaker:they would be placed face down and would get the
Speaker:harshest of punishments. And one punishment is
Speaker:what I saw was a cattle ride. And I
Speaker:often wondered what was a cattle ride until
Speaker:via a colleague in Barbados who explained to
Speaker:me what a cattle ride is. That is
Speaker:where they would use kind of. They would dig
Speaker:out a ditch, and it's quite
Speaker:sad. And they would place you face down in that
Speaker:ditch, and they would drive.
Speaker:Or the master or the owner of the plantation
Speaker:would ride his carriage
Speaker:over you. So you would have kind of been the
Speaker:function of the road. You would become the road, and you would be
Speaker:face down. And this would have caused many
Speaker:deformities, you know, crooked backs, broken
Speaker:spines. People would have died. People would have been
Speaker:crushed. And that was one of. That was just one of the few punishments
Speaker:that they had here on St. Eustatius. And if
Speaker:you go back into the records and you read the letter
Speaker:of, uh, Zimmerman, who's traveling the islands, you can
Speaker:see that Sycius does not. It's the
Speaker:golden rock. But when it comes to the punishment and the treatment
Speaker:of enslaved people, it is harsh. And he
Speaker:records also the quarters of how the enslaved people are
Speaker:treated and how they live. And this is still all the
Speaker:1800s. And in that period
Speaker:of the 1800s, um, the island becomes then
Speaker:permanently Dutch. They don't realize it
Speaker:until about 1816. It happened in 1815
Speaker:officially at the concert in Vienna. But they don't realize it
Speaker:here until 1816.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The plantation economy tightens its grip on sinter
Speaker:statius. But resistance took many
Speaker:forms. Some sought freedom through rebellion,
Speaker:while others worked within the system to subvert it from
Speaker:the inside. Among
Speaker:these women were free women of color, figures
Speaker:often overlooked in the history of resistance.
Speaker:As landowners, businesswomen, and guardians of
Speaker:future generations, they challenged the notion that
Speaker:power lay solely in the hands of the colonial
Speaker:rulers. As Mr. Richardson
Speaker:continues, he will introduce us To Francis
Speaker:Coffee, Mary Gibbs, and other women who
Speaker:navigated oppression in unexpected ways, using
Speaker:ownership, trade and skill building to
Speaker:carve out spaces of autonomy.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: And as that period progress, there are a lot of free
Speaker:people of color. The free people of color population recovers
Speaker:again since Rodney. And then you see a lot
Speaker:of key figures popping up. And in
Speaker:that period, what is interesting is that
Speaker:there's a lady called
Speaker:Frances Coffey who
Speaker:buys the Glass bottle plantation for
Speaker:3,000 florins or guilders at
Speaker:the time. And she buys the plantation
Speaker:with everything that's attached, including
Speaker:the enslaved people. Um,
Speaker:but it's not all what it seems. And in that
Speaker:period as well, what you see is
Speaker:another lady. Her name was Mary
Speaker:Gibbs. Mary Gibbs is a seamstress.
Speaker:She's a free woman of color. And she takes
Speaker:about 10 to 15
Speaker:girls under her wing who are still
Speaker:enslaved. But what's interesting is that you
Speaker:see all of these women and also men, but mostly the
Speaker:women having people under the wing, where it
Speaker:seems as if the enslaved people or the free
Speaker:people of color aren't into satius or have
Speaker:slaves themselves. But you don't have a plantation, but you
Speaker:own slaves. M. So the European idea
Speaker:would be, you see, free people had black people, had
Speaker:slaves as well in the Caribbean. But is that true,
Speaker:though? That's reading things from a helicopter view. But
Speaker:when you go in between, reading between
Speaker:the lines, and you see, for example,
Speaker:Mary Brown is 70 when she
Speaker:acquires these girls, quite old for that time,
Speaker:but she. She is going to eventually die at
Speaker:72. And in her will
Speaker:she leaves, all these girls are free.
Speaker:And in two years time, they're all kind of
Speaker:trained to be seamstresses. And what you
Speaker:see eventually in the emancipation register, when that
Speaker:would eventually come in 1863, when you
Speaker:go back there, you see what was going on. All of these
Speaker:girls were kind of going into apprenticeship
Speaker:under slavery. So on stage, had they kind of dealt
Speaker:develop this kind of very
Speaker:intellectual way of what we call
Speaker:defiance or Verset. I think it's not
Speaker:explored enough in the Caribbean how
Speaker:people were using this system that
Speaker:was, you know, unlawfully, you
Speaker:know, uh, implemented or given to them, how
Speaker:they turned this system around to make it work in their
Speaker:favor. So what you see on synthesis is a
Speaker:sort of deliverette
Speaker:where they're using the norm of
Speaker:slavery right in front of the colonial
Speaker:governors.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Ownership on paper didn't always mean what it
Speaker:seemed. While colonial records listed free
Speaker:people of color as enslavers, a closer
Speaker:look reveals a completely different story.
Speaker:Some, like Mary Gibbs, took Young enslaved
Speaker:women under their career, not to exploit them, but to
Speaker:teach them skills that would one day allow them to live as
Speaker:free women. These were quiet
Speaker:revolutions hidden in legal documents,
Speaker:yet profoundly impactful.
Speaker:One such woman was Mama Didier.
Speaker:She took this idea even further, creating
Speaker:an entire network of apprenticeships
Speaker:that changed the futures of those under her
Speaker:career.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: And then there's another brilliant story of. It's, uh,
Speaker:around 18. It's 1808,
Speaker:almost 1810. And one particular
Speaker:lady in the register in the Notre Les Briefs
Speaker:is like, her name is Mama Didier, and many people
Speaker:are referred to as Mama. And her
Speaker:initial, her original initial is V. But the only
Speaker:thing she could have, she signed, so she probably was
Speaker:not able to read. So she signed Mama
Speaker:Didier, but didn't even write her own name. But what's
Speaker:interesting is that she has a mixture now of 20
Speaker:people in her apprenticeship.
Speaker:Let's say she owns them. It's notarized.
Speaker:They're all enslaved. There's boys and girls. But what
Speaker:happened is her husband is the only
Speaker:blacksmith on the island, um, and all the boys in
Speaker:Mama Didier's care are trained to become
Speaker:blacksmiths, and all the girls are becoming
Speaker:bakers. And then she dies. And then when you
Speaker:go back to the slave emancipation register,
Speaker:she's already dead. But you find all of these
Speaker:boys and girls, and you can guess what their occupation are.
Speaker:Blacksmith. Blacksmith. Blacksmith. Bakers. Bakers.
Speaker:Bakers. Bakers. And then you see that formerly
Speaker:enslaved people venture out to other islands
Speaker:already with a occupation and a
Speaker:skill. And that's one of the things I think
Speaker:are extremely unique, um, at the time,
Speaker:and I think under a European lens, they would have
Speaker:easily missed this. And it's very interesting
Speaker:that this is something that the women, especially the
Speaker:enslaved and the free women of color were
Speaker:doing on
Speaker:Stacey.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): While some resisted through economic
Speaker:strategies, others took a different action.
Speaker:The 1848 uprising of
Speaker:Sintostatius was not an isolated act.
Speaker:It was part of a broader Caribbean movement where
Speaker:enslaved and free people alike defied
Speaker:colonial rule. This revolt was
Speaker:led by Thomas Dubois. But as
Speaker:history often shows, men were not the only
Speaker:ones fighting for freedom. Women marched
Speaker:alongside them, risking everything to claim a future
Speaker:that had long been denied. Mr.
Speaker:Richardson takes us into the defining moment
Speaker:when one that would forever alter the course of Sint
Speaker:Eustatia's history.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: And of course, much later, around June
Speaker:12, 1848, we have that famous uprising here
Speaker:on the island. And, um, it is led
Speaker:by a free man of color,
Speaker:um, and his name is Thomas
Speaker:Dubassois. And he's a free man of color.
Speaker:He's born into freedom. So his parents were free,
Speaker:and he was born into freedom here on the island.
Speaker:And eventually he would be. After the
Speaker:emancipation, he would find his way back to St. Eustatius, and
Speaker:many of his descendants were still here today.
Speaker:There's this uprising of the
Speaker:1848 uprising on the island, the
Speaker:revolt, as it's called, where Thomas Duboussoir
Speaker:rides into town and demands his freedom. And on the
Speaker:way, it's getting m momentum. Um, and what we do know
Speaker:from the letters of the governor is that mostly
Speaker:women, of course, they joined, and of course there's a
Speaker:few men, but a lot of women are joining this because that's the
Speaker:driving force. They want their freedom. They go
Speaker:into the governor's residence, which is the green and white cove in
Speaker:the middle of town on that square. That's where they
Speaker:go. And the governor at the time is
Speaker:Johannes de Vere. What's interesting is that
Speaker:the de Vere family would have met a
Speaker:revolt in every century. So there was a
Speaker:de Vere in the Demerara uprising. There was a
Speaker:dver in the time of Tula. And now we're on
Speaker:St. Eustatius. There's a de Vere here again. There was a de Vere on
Speaker:St. Martin. And these are all colonial governors
Speaker:and colonial families. And that's for a story for
Speaker:itself, how that superstition developed around the de
Speaker:Vere family. But. So the governor is
Speaker:Johannes de Vere. And Thomas Duboussois is
Speaker:like, marching into the square, demanding his
Speaker:freedom. And you can see he's literate. He
Speaker:knows his things. He knows about the other islands. He knows
Speaker:about what happened on St. Martin, et cetera. You can see he
Speaker:can read everything he knows. And the governor's like,
Speaker:I cannot give you your freedom at this time. That
Speaker:is, it's not in my power to do so. I think
Speaker:you should go back to your plantations and do your work. And you, Thomas,
Speaker:are a free man of color. So what are you making a fuss
Speaker:about? And he was like, no, I want this for my fellow
Speaker:station men. And then with Thomas, of course, there's the
Speaker:culprits. They're the ones that are named. There is, you know,
Speaker:Valentine, there's Oscar, there's
Speaker:Abraham and Thomas. And I'm forgetting one name
Speaker:because it should be five that did the uprising and the leader making
Speaker:it six. We know for a fact that
Speaker:there were women present that lost their lives,
Speaker:and there were women that fought. And when you look at many
Speaker:of the uprising also on the other islands in the
Speaker:caribbean region, it's all being led by women, often
Speaker:even on St. Martin with one titi luque. It's also women,
Speaker:but also unseen. Eustatia. There are women leading
Speaker:uprising, but the thing is, they're not named. What's interesting
Speaker:is that with the 1848 uprising, these
Speaker:gentlemen would eventually marry local
Speaker:women after emancipation. And now we know their
Speaker:names, but in none of the original records that their
Speaker:families or the women's names were mentioned. And
Speaker:that goes to show you the role at that time
Speaker:of women. So you can imagine that outside of women,
Speaker:you know, like I called francis, coffey, mamade,
Speaker:all of these people that predated them. It's like
Speaker:they. What they fought for what they did, or
Speaker:somehow, you know, you know, forgotten and
Speaker:swept under the rug. But what you would eventually
Speaker:see as the turn of the century comes and
Speaker:abolishment would eventually come in
Speaker:1863, is that you would see the
Speaker:role of women in society
Speaker:becoming more and more dominant. Because
Speaker:women are not only the church leaders, but they're also the
Speaker:organizers. They're part of the social
Speaker:structure. They're the hierarchy. They are the
Speaker:ones that keep the household together. And
Speaker:they're the ones that also go to the market. Because
Speaker:even some of the earliest pictures of
Speaker:the free color market that we have, where the current
Speaker:wilhelmina park is, all the women doing all the.
Speaker:Well, everyone doing commerce and trade
Speaker:and selling are women
Speaker:and not men. So you see, the men are
Speaker:fishing and doing the planting, but the women are the one
Speaker:dealing with the pocketbook. They're the one dealing with the money.
Speaker:They're the ones setting up the commerce and the trade.
Speaker:And you will see that will continue onwards as we get into
Speaker:the 20th century.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Though the names of many women in the uprisings
Speaker:remain completely lost to history, Their presence
Speaker:in the struggle for freedom cannot be denied.
Speaker:From syntastacia to haiti, from
Speaker:suriname to jamaica, women played crucial
Speaker:roles not just in open combat, but
Speaker:intelligent networks, supply chains, and
Speaker:spiritual leadership. Dr.
Speaker:Anna Hanslin explains on this, showing us
Speaker:why women contribution to resistance deserve
Speaker:recognition, not just in the caribbean, but, uh,
Speaker:across the world.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: Even things where women were never a majority, like
Speaker:military participants, There have always been
Speaker:women who have fought in conflicts and battles
Speaker:and wars and picked up arms. They've never
Speaker:been the majority, unless you want to go back to the myth of the
Speaker:amazons, but they've never been the majority in any of
Speaker:the societies we're talking about today, but
Speaker:they've always been present in these conflicts.
Speaker:And there have always been a certain amount of women who
Speaker:have fought in these engagements, just like
Speaker:men. And I think recognizing that makes
Speaker:it then possible for us to think maybe it's
Speaker:not so strange that people in the 21st century
Speaker:think it's okay for women to be in the military.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Beyond armed resistance, enslaved women also
Speaker:fought battles over their own bodies.
Speaker:Colonial authorities saw their ability to bear children
Speaker:as a way to sustain slavery long after the
Speaker:transatlantic trade was abolished.
Speaker:But this was not just about forced reproduction.
Speaker:It was about control. Surveillance
Speaker:over women's fertility intensified, leaving
Speaker:them with little autonomy over their own lives.
Speaker:Historian and teacher Dr. Elaine unpacks how this
Speaker:plays across different colonial systems and how
Speaker:enslaved women responded to this oppression, sometimes
Speaker:in ways that defied the very system meant to break
Speaker:them.
Speaker:>> Dr. Elaine: So, basically, as I mentioned before, slave
Speaker:reproduction was really, really low in the
Speaker:Caribbean. And all of a sudden,
Speaker:slaveholders needed to find a way to
Speaker:reproduce the labor force, right?
Speaker:Because as the slave trade was coming to an end,
Speaker:and eventually as slavery was coming to an end, there
Speaker:was a need to continue the cultivation of
Speaker:sugar and other cash crops, even in the absence of an
Speaker:enslaved labor force. So, you know,
Speaker:conditions on these plantations were horrific. Just
Speaker:really some of the most brutal conditions you
Speaker:could possibly imagine human beings living through.
Speaker:And so that's why the, you know, fertility rate was really
Speaker:low. And so all of a sudden, we see this
Speaker:sense of kind of panic on the part of
Speaker:many, many different, um, people with some sort of
Speaker:stake in slavery over how the population
Speaker:would continue to. To exist in these
Speaker:colonies. And so this goes back to the idea
Speaker:of amelioration. So one of the kind of, um,
Speaker:key features of amelioration was that it was
Speaker:intended to increase the birth rate. And, in fact, it was
Speaker:unsuccessful. It didn't really increase the birth
Speaker:rate, but it was intended to increase the birth rate
Speaker:by encouraging women to have more children.
Speaker:So women who had lots of children were awarded
Speaker:with prizes, were awarded with,
Speaker:um, time off from work, were awarded with
Speaker:extra food and clothing. Uh, there was
Speaker:much more of an interest in regulating
Speaker:women's reproduction and fertility. So prior
Speaker:to this point, enslaved women were sort of left to their own
Speaker:devices when it came to birth, um,
Speaker:breastfeeding. Now, this was
Speaker:in many ways negative because it meant that
Speaker:they obviously were giving birth
Speaker:to children under extremely difficult conditions,
Speaker:but it also meant that they had some degree of
Speaker:privacy from white people and white
Speaker:slaveholders when it came to sort of their intimate
Speaker:lives, giving birth, taking care of
Speaker:infants. This was something that they sort of dealt with
Speaker:themselves, independent of White
Speaker:people, um, and plantation
Speaker:authorities. So the amelioration period changes this.
Speaker:And we start to see slaveholders,
Speaker:doctors, other people interested in
Speaker:sort of, um, ensuring reproduction, become much more
Speaker:involved in sort of, um, overseeing
Speaker:women's fertility and child rearing practices.
Speaker:Um, so this put women under enormous surveillance.
Speaker:And, um, also made life very
Speaker:difficult for women who couldn't have children or
Speaker:who didn't have children. There was a, you
Speaker:know, this immense sense of pressure to
Speaker:bear children because it came with
Speaker:material rewards. And obviously the effects on
Speaker:women who were unable to have lots of children would have been
Speaker:pretty significant.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): For many enslaved women, this pressure to reproduce was
Speaker:not just physical, it was psychological and
Speaker:emotional. Those who could
Speaker:bear children were often punished or ostracized,
Speaker:while those who did were rewarded, but only within the
Speaker:confines of servitude. Yet even
Speaker:in these oppressive conditions, resistance took
Speaker:shape not always through open rebellion, but
Speaker:in small daily acts of defiance that
Speaker:historians are only now beginning to fully
Speaker:recognize.
Speaker:>> Dr. Elaine: And so that's one way in which amelioration
Speaker:definitely impacted the status of
Speaker:women in the British Caribbean. In the context
Speaker:of the Spanish Caribbean, we see a similar
Speaker:kind of focus on enslaved women's bodies.
Speaker:So in the early 1870s,
Speaker:Spain passes something called the Moret Law,
Speaker:which declared that children born
Speaker:to enslaved women would be
Speaker:free, thereby reversing the doctrine of
Speaker:partus sequiter ventrum in the context
Speaker:of the French Caribbean. Interestingly, we
Speaker:don't see this as overtly. This is something that I
Speaker:actually focus on in my dissertation, and I have an article
Speaker:under revision that talks about this.
Speaker:Um, we don't see this pronounced
Speaker:effort on the part of slaveholders to ensure
Speaker:reproduction through medical means. And I argue
Speaker:in my work that actually the regulation of women's
Speaker:mobility was the primary mechanism by which
Speaker:reproduction was regulated. By side
Speaker:note, it would be interesting for someone
Speaker:who has the linguistic
Speaker:abilities to do this analysis in the context of the
Speaker:Dutch Caribbean to sort of take a look at
Speaker:slave reproduction there in the period of
Speaker:abolition. Another thing I want
Speaker:to mention here is that during
Speaker:this period, despite what I said previously about
Speaker:women not playing a huge role in armed rebellion,
Speaker:I can think of a few rebellions in the 19th century
Speaker:where women did feature prominently in
Speaker:Cuba. In 1844, there was a major slave
Speaker:conspiracy to enact a rebellion.
Speaker:And as the historian Aisha Finch has
Speaker:shown, women were, uh, a part of
Speaker:this conspiracy. And
Speaker:an example from Martinique, uh, the French government abolished
Speaker:slavery in April of
Speaker:1848. That was to go into
Speaker:effect two months later in
Speaker:June. But a massive slave uprising in
Speaker:May brought slavery to an end one month
Speaker:earlier than planned. And women were pretty active
Speaker:in that uprising.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The struggle for freedom in the Caribbean was not only
Speaker:fought in open revolts. It was fault in
Speaker:whispers between enslaved women passing
Speaker:crucial intelligence. It was fold in
Speaker:spiritual traditions that gave communities
Speaker:strength. And it was fold over the very
Speaker:bodies of the women who bore the next
Speaker:generation. As we
Speaker:conclude this episode, we are constantly
Speaker:reminded that history has often erased the names
Speaker:of women. Yet their resistance
Speaker:shaped the course of rebellion. From
Speaker:Syntostatius to Haiti, from Jamaica to
Speaker:Suriname. Um, they found ways to reclaim power,
Speaker:whether through armed uprising, economic
Speaker:sabotage, or quiet defiance.
Speaker:But as the uprisings of the early 19th
Speaker:century paved the way for abolition, what
Speaker:did freedom truly mean?
Speaker:Did emancipation bring justice?
Speaker:Or did it simply replace one form of control
Speaker:with another? For those
Speaker:who had endured generations of enslavement,
Speaker:what came next?
Speaker:Could they claim true liberation? Or did
Speaker:they find themselves in a world still designed to keep them
Speaker:bound? And if their
Speaker:struggle still echoes in the present,
Speaker:if the systems that oppress them left behind
Speaker:shadows, then what
Speaker:revolutions remain unfinished?
Speaker:And who amongst us is willing to continue
Speaker:the fight?