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EP #89 Why do nice guys finish last?
Episode 895th April 2023 • Dont get this Twisted • Dont get this Twisted
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Welcome back to Dont get this Twisted

In this conversation, Robb and Tina discuss the preference of some women for 'bad boys' over nice guys. They explore the reasons behind this phenomenon and the impact it has on relationships. They also discuss the importance of self-love and choosing partners who treat them well. The conversation touches on societal influences, the role of personal growth, and the need for higher standards in relationships. They emphasize the importance of being true to oneself and finding happiness in healthy connections. The conversation explores the importance of personality over looks, self-perception and personal growth, the role of the good guy, expectations and wronging others, owning our own actions, and raising the bar in relationships.

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[Robb]: And welcome to another show of Don't

Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my cohost

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[Robb]: as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm doing good. I'm finally

back from all my trips and my room it looks

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[Tina m Garcia]: like my suitcase blew up in

it but uh

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[Robb]: Hey.

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[Tina m Garcia]: other than that I'm doing really

well it was a good week a good not good week

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[Tina m Garcia]: it was a good month

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[Robb]: Couple weeks, right? You were.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I went five different places

this this month

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[Robb]: Yeah, that's crazy. Super

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[Tina m Garcia]: Yeah

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[Robb]: crazy.

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[Tina m Garcia]: well

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[Robb]: It.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I I don't want to say no anymore

you know like everybody was like

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[Robb]: Whoa.

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[Tina m Garcia]: teen what are you doing for

your birthday you should come and see me I'm

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[Tina m Garcia]: like okay I'm going you know

so it was all places that that didn't I didn't

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[Tina m Garcia]: have to spend much you know

to go

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina m Garcia]: but um it was nice to reconnect

I still have one more visit I'm gonna go see

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[Tina m Garcia]: my cousin I need to go see

my cousin but that one

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[Tina m Garcia]: You know, throw it all out

there and go, I have to do some planning, so

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[Robb]: Right, right, right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: that will be the next one.

But other than that, I'm home.

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[Robb]: Very good, very good. Yeah, it seems

like forever that we haven't done this, so.

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[Tina m Garcia]: It's been two weeks, yeah.

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[Robb]: I know, but it seems like such a long

time, so.

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[Tina m Garcia]: right?

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[Robb]: But it has not been. So, yeah, make

sure to check out our socials, all that fun

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[Robb]: stuff, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.

And then check us out on Apple, Google, Amazon,

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[Robb]: Spotify, Li Heart Radio, any place you

can hear this crazy podcast. Make sure you

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[Robb]: follow and subscribe. All right. So,

as always, we always have ideas and we actually

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[Robb]: had a couple.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: And I know we were gonna do one, but

I kinda squashed that because my frame of mind,

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[Robb]: I didn't wanna like blow up because

I saw a friend of mine and I didn't want to

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[Robb]: like throw that out there just because

of things people are going through.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: Although we're gonna talk about that

one. But this one kinda came up at my work.

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[Robb]: We were talking about, there's a guy

named Andrew Tate who kind of talks about the

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[Robb]: differences between men and women. And

he gets thrown into being called misogynistic

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[Robb]: and a bunch of other shit, but some

of the stuff he says is out of control. He,

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[Robb]: matter of fact, he was in a prison in

Romania, but they just let him out of the house

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[Robb]: arrest because supposedly he was trafficking

women, but that's neither here nor there because

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[Robb]: he hasn't

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[Tina m Garcia]: Hmm.

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[Robb]: been charged. But he does say a lot

about how women really want a nice guy but

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[Robb]: never go for one. And it kind of echoed

back to something that my ex-wife said years

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[Robb]: and years and years ago to a friend

of mine saying that I was just too nice. And

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[Robb]: I thought that

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: that was just a crazy thing. So this

came out of my work, and I work with all males.

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[Robb]: There's not one female that works at

my place. So all these things, being kind of

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[Robb]: thrown back and forth between the different

age groups. The youngest is probably 30 and

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[Robb]: the oldest is like 62. So we all started

talking about this kind of stuff and I was

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[Robb]: just like, I don't get it. Women generally

say, you know, I want a nice guy and I want

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[Robb]: this and they usually end up with dicks

that they continue to stay with are just fucking

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[Robb]: horrible human beings that say horrible

shit to them and do all this shit, but they

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[Robb]: never picked a nice guy, and I never

understood that. Because we kind of talked

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[Robb]: off the air right before we got here.

Women are just a different breed, and so are

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[Robb]: men, and obviously we're different.

Men, at least the people that I know, they

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[Robb]: don't want some bitch

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[Robb]: They just

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[Tina m Garcia]: I

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[Robb]: don't.

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[Tina m Garcia]: don't know, because I know

a lot of guys that are with like women that

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[Tina m Garcia]: I could honestly say, I don't

know how they don't just slam their head into

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[Tina m Garcia]: a wall sometimes with the stuff

I hear them say. So I know you said that that

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[Tina m Garcia]: men don't pick women like that,

but they do.

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[Robb]: I mean, I just don't think that it's

the general thing. Like women want the bad

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[Robb]: boy. Guys want a whore in the bedroom,

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm

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[Robb]: but

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[Tina m Garcia]: gonna

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[Robb]: they

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[Tina m Garcia]: go.

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[Robb]: want someone nice 99% of the time everywhere

else. They want that weird thing. Women seem

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[Robb]: to go for like the bad boy, aggressive,

crazy guy that's just a fucking prick, and

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[Robb]: I don't get it. And again, I'm just

coming from me, guys finish last and that's

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[Robb]: probably what this show will probably

end up be calling or something like that when

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[Robb]: I edit it. I think it's wild that the

normal generally nice dude who pretty much

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[Robb]: is your, I hate to say Hollywood guy,

but people like that they always do finish

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[Robb]: last. They're always the guys that are

just like yeah I'm cool but or they just get

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[Robb]: friend zoned so quick and Maybe it's

just I don't understand that side. So, and

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[Robb]: the guys at my work were kind of saying

the same thing. It's like all their male friends

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[Robb]: who are kind of douchey or just kind

of pricks always get the girl. What about around

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[Robb]: your people? And again, we're a little

older, but I still think it's been around since

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[Robb]: we were in high school. You know what

I mean? It's like nothing new.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Yeah, I don't know. I kind

of see things differently.

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[Tina m Garcia]: There's a generality with females

right now where they're the ones that are kind

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[Tina m Garcia]: of aggressive and kind of bitchy.

So I would say that they definitely wouldn't

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[Tina m Garcia]: want somebody that couldn't

top that because you need somebody that's going

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[Tina m Garcia]: to outdo you. And maybe that's

part of it. I don't know. I don't know. I,

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[Tina m Garcia]: I kind of like the nice guys,

you know, being that I had a dad around and

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[Tina m Garcia]: a grandfather and uncles and

brother guys, I treated guys differently. You

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[Tina m Garcia]: know, I was a guy as girl.

That's how, what all my people say about me.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Like I, I don't have a problem

with guys. woman. Guys are pretty straightforward,

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[Tina m Garcia]: I like that, but um not that

they can't be douchey, they can, but... I also

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[Tina m Garcia]: believe that we bring out certain

characteristics in every person. And so if

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[Tina m Garcia]: we're going for a douchey guy,

it's normally because we're doing something

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[Tina m Garcia]: to create it.

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[Robb]: I mean, yeah, I can see that. I can

see where you're coming from that. My thing

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[Robb]: is like, it's always the bad boy. And

maybe that is kind of true. I think most women

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[Robb]: that think they want the bad boy is

because that bad boy has super confidence,

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[Robb]: or they think that a bad boy being kind

of dicky is gonna be the person who's the protector.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Or maybe

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[Robb]: So.

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[Tina m Garcia]: they've been raised with guys

that are kind of dicky to their, to their,

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[Tina m Garcia]: um, you know, female role models.

And so that's what they go for, because that's

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[Tina m Garcia]: what they've been trained to

deal with.

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[Robb]: Yeah,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Could go that way.

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[Robb]: I mean, and I understand like, how an

early relationship could cause that kind of

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[Robb]: thing to where you continue to just

keep going to the same kind of person. I mean,

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[Robb]: that's, I understand that part of it.

But I still think that that's probably a low

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[Robb]: percentage.

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[Robb]: The people that, and I've seen it in

my life, like my best friend growing up in

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[Robb]: his high school years was a fucking

idiot and a prick to every girl. And they fucking

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[Robb]: couldn't wait to line up to get at him.

And I remember he used to step back, and I

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[Robb]: had girlfriends during that time, and

I'm pretty much the same guy, all in all. my

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[Robb]: how I think of what you should do. Again,

I'm sappy though, I'm a hopeless romantic,

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[Robb]: so I'm kind of this weird, this weird

thing, but I'm starting to think I should just

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[Robb]: be a dick. I

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[Tina m Garcia]: Well...

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[Robb]: think I should just say fuck off to

everybody and shit on everyone and go okay,

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[Robb]: because

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[Tina m Garcia]: Listen.

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[Robb]: they seem to get the relationship.

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[Tina m Garcia]: right? Well, here's the deal,

though. You, you could only love somebody as

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[Tina m Garcia]: much as you love yourself.

And women don't tend to love themselves the

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[Tina m Garcia]: way they should. That's what

I see. So they go,

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[Robb]: Agree.

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[Tina m Garcia]: they they'll stay at the same

energy that they that they feel about themselves.

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[Tina m Garcia]: And if they're, if they're

with a guy that's like really douchey, maybe

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[Tina m Garcia]: that says a lot about what

they, what they think about themselves.

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[Robb]: Yeah, I mean, and again, I think previous

relationships or the last relationship can

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[Robb]: be a killer. My friend in Vegas, I bring

her up quite a lot, she was in a relationship

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[Robb]: for 17 years. I had never realized how

mentally abusive of her husband was until we

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[Robb]: started kind of talking really, really

deep about things. Like she, I think you do

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[Robb]: know her. We went to high school together.

I'm not sure if you know her or not, but anyway,

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[Robb]: she was, she's always been really pretty.

In high school, she was heavier,

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[Robb]: But her husband was one of those people

that were just like, no one's ever gonna want

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[Robb]: you. and hammered that into her for

so long that she believed it, to the point

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[Robb]: where, like, if she'd question you for

saying she was pretty.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Listen, that happened so often.

You know, women, again, if you don't love yourself,

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[Tina m Garcia]: you're going to find somebody

that won't love you as well, just because that's

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[Tina m Garcia]: where you're at. If if you

believe what everybody says over and over again

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[Tina m Garcia]: about you, which I don't know

how people don't believe it because it will

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[Tina m Garcia]: wear on you if you're getting

negative, negative responses. But I also know

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[Tina m Garcia]: that if somebody really loves

you, they will make you a better person. And

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[Tina m Garcia]: you have to look for, I say,

if you want to have a good life, you need to

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[Tina m Garcia]: have somebody that,

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[Tina m Garcia]: You keep trying to do more.

You keep trying to be a better person. But

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[Tina m Garcia]: oftentimes women will pick

either, you know, what their, what their fathers

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[Tina m Garcia]: were like, or if their fathers

weren't there, whatever they're left with,

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[Tina m Garcia]: that's a big deal. A lot of

women don't like themselves. It's just something

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[Tina m Garcia]: that's very common amongst

women. If they don't like themselves, they're

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[Tina m Garcia]: not going to like you. You

can't be in a relationship with somebody that

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[Tina m Garcia]: doesn't really like themselves.

It just don't work. And you're going to have

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[Tina m Garcia]: up with a lot of drama.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I think that as a whole, you

know, society has made it to where women have

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[Tina m Garcia]: to be aggressive, women have

to do everything and often feel like they're

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[Tina m Garcia]: failing because they can't

do one thing well because they're doing 20

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[Tina m Garcia]: things at one time.

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: So I think that women need

to quit being so hard on themselves and start

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[Tina m Garcia]: working on why they feel the

way they do and then maybe they'll pick better

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[Tina m Garcia]: people.

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[Robb]: Yeah, I do agree with you, like societal.

I think modern feminism has, I mean, we've

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[Robb]: talked about it before on the podcast,

has hurt both sides, right? You know, women

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[Robb]: expect to be independent and do all

these things and not need a man, but still

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[Robb]: think the man should do all the manly

shit, like pay all the bills and do all this

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[Robb]: and do all that. So now men are kind

of stepping backwards and going, when she expects

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[Robb]: everything but still thinks that she's

the leader. And I get like, look, I'm a true

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[Robb]: believer, men should be the leader in

a partnership. It should be a partnership for

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[Robb]: sure, but yes, I think men should lead.

And call me misogynistic, whatever you wanna

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[Robb]: call it, I just come from that era,

right, where my dad's dad's dad's dad did that.

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[Robb]: That's just reality. And I think that

that's what's also hurting things where modern

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[Robb]: women think that nice guys are one of

two things. They're either weak or they're

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[Robb]: not believable. They have an ulterior

motive. They're acting like this to get something.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm.

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[Robb]: And I think that's even scarier. That

the person that, because all I hear is from

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[Robb]: people who've had shitty relationships

with guys this relationship he was shitty I

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[Robb]: went to the next guy he ended up being

shitty I was in this relationship it wasn't

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[Robb]: what I wanted

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[Tina m Garcia]: But who's

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[Robb]: I'm

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[Tina m Garcia]: the

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[Robb]: with

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[Tina m Garcia]: common denominator in all that?

She is.

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[Robb]: No, that's correct, but look, you're

picking someone, or there's something about

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[Robb]: that person, but at some point, you

have to be able to tell yourself, like, maybe

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[Robb]: I'm missing out on something that I

think is the weak man, or that maybe it's believable,

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[Robb]: because, I mean, and maybe I'm just

the crazy one, because I see people are. Like

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[Robb]: if someone acts a certain way to me,

generally I go that's just who they are. Like

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[Robb]: so if you're a bitch, generally you're

probably a bitch.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: And if you're not, you're probably like

most people, you pop off every blue moon. Because

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[Robb]: even the nice guy has his

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[Tina m Garcia]: And should. And should. Yeah.

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[Robb]: passive dude who's like, look, I just

wanna love you the way you are and that's okay.

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[Robb]: I just think it's wild, because I listen

to some other podcasts or watch shit that I

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[Robb]: see on YouTube and these girls are just

like,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Idiots.

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[Robb]: they're crazy. And again, not all the

women that I'm talking about that like this

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[Robb]: bad boy or end up with these guys that

are just shitty to them, they're not like this

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[Robb]: either that are just like, I'm independent

and I want, people that are traditionalists

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[Robb]: and still end up with this for whatever

reason. And on the flip side, those same people

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[Robb]: think they're broken. Like, there's

something wrong with me. It's like, it's not

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[Robb]: that there's something wrong with you.

You just end up in this perpetual circle instead

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[Robb]: of jumping out of the circle when you

have the chance. To me, when you have the chance

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[Robb]: to jump out of the airplane, fucking

jump out. It's okay. I mean,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: you may not have the best parachute,

but you still got one on. You know what I mean?

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[Robb]: You got a job. My friend in Vegas, she

was going through all this shit. She hadn't

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[Robb]: worked in fucking 14 years. She just

stayed at home all.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So just imagine not working for that

long and then having to get back into the workforce.

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[Tina m Garcia]: gotta be

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[Robb]: It,

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[Tina m Garcia]: pretty scary, but

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[Robb]: oh no,

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[Tina m Garcia]: also

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[Robb]: it was insanely scary.

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[Tina m Garcia]: of course, but also very liberating.

You know, you get your freedom when you make

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[Tina m Garcia]: your own choices, when you

make your own money, when you when you do what

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[Tina m Garcia]: you need to do to take care

of yourself. There's a freedom in that as scary

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[Tina m Garcia]: as it is, you know, we ride

roller coasters with our hands up in there.

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[Tina m Garcia]: There's a reason for that.

It's good to be. It's good to be scared. It's

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[Tina m Garcia]: good to take risks. It's good

I thankfully she did that after 17 years and

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[Robb]: She

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[Tina m Garcia]: didn't

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[Robb]: did.

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[Tina m Garcia]: wait 20 years. You know

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina m Garcia]: what I mean? It's like

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[Robb]: Yeah.

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[Tina m Garcia]: why would you want to limit

yourself in any way in on this earth at all

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[Tina m Garcia]: with with who we are is in

America as Americans like women don't need

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[Tina m Garcia]: to walk around with their face

hidden They don't have to they don't have to

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[Tina m Garcia]: have an escort. We could come

and go as we please and do our own thing. Why

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[Tina m Garcia]: Would they not?

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[Robb]: Yeah, I think that there, I'm sure it

was, again, scary and liberating. I mean,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Hmm

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[Robb]: to have the freedom of your head space

of not being in something you're not happy

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[Robb]: in has to

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: be incredibly good. You're right, being

scared, it's funny, I just heard this on another

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[Robb]: podcast as well. You know that we go

on roller coasters because we get the adrenaline

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[Robb]: rush

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: That's what our head actually thinks.

Like, I might die on this, so I'm gonna go

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[Robb]: do it. Or like the same with jumping

out of an airplane. And I think there is something

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[Robb]: to be scared. Like, look, when I got

divorced, and the same with you, because you're

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[Robb]: very freshly in it, and we were hanging

out at the time, like you took me to a high

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[Robb]: school reunion when I was going through

my divorce,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I was utterly scared. I mean, because

I, I mean, it was such a fresh start, in this

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[Robb]: very bizarre headspace. But.

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[Tina m Garcia]: And we had a great time.

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[Robb]: I did. Well, we had a great time because

I was at a time where I literally said, fuck

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[Robb]: it.

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[Tina m Garcia]: That's

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[Robb]: Mostly

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[Tina m Garcia]: what you needed

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[Robb]: that night.

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[Tina m Garcia]: to say at the time though.

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[Robb]: I did.

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[Tina m Garcia]: To be honest, you did.

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[Robb]: I had to.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So, you know, I ended up, it's funny

because we ended up going there and hung out

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[Robb]: with a friend of yours I didn't know.

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[Tina m Garcia]: who was excellent to take to

a reunion.

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[Robb]: It was. She was actually perfect

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[Robb]: now it's funny because she is very happily

married and has a child and everything,

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[Robb]: but at the time was very flirty with

me

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[Robb]: and I think that helped me back on the

horse. And I think, and for that night I think

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[Robb]: it was very real, like I don't think,

I think she was flirting with me just to flirt

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So it definitely helped me get back

on the horse to where yeah, I was scared. I

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[Robb]: was scared of life, scared of getting

back into that part of my life.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So to see that as being what, again,

perpetually the nice guy, because that's what

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called intense, which I have no problem with

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[Robb]: that. When I am pursuing someone, I'm

very intense. Or if I'm fighting for a relationship,

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[Robb]: I'm very intense. But I wholeheartedly

mean that intensity with only love.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm. Right, right.

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that I've heard recently just blow me away

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[Robb]: what men say to people to make them

feel absolutely horrible. Something that, it's

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my intensity is that I send flowers for you.

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[Robb]: I don't degrade you from a personal

standpoint about your body or this or that.

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[Robb]: that men talk like this to the person

that they so-called love. To me, like this

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story, I refuse now from now on to call that

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mean, truly, he's a piece of shit, and that's

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from now on, because

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[Robb]: again, things he's said and done And

I probably know a very small amount because

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[Tina m Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: based on our relationship. But the things,

and she's not the only one I've heard this

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[Robb]: from. This just happens to be that I've

heard within the last week. But in my life,

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narcissistic pieces of shit that think that

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horrible names, and then text somebody later

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[Robb]: that like, oh, I'm sorry, but I really

do love you. It's like, wait. No.

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[Tina m Garcia]: We get what we accept though,

as people, if we accept that behavior, we're

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down.

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[Robb]: True, and I think what I was kind of,

well, with this particular person, again, she

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wrong with her head.

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higher.

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[Robb]: Probably, I mean without a doubt, if

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: this piece of shit is doing these things.

I kinda said something to her the other day

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and I said, you know, I'm not trying to be

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[Robb]: the white knight, but this, and she

goes, but you are trying to be the white knight,

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am trying to be the white knight, but that's

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her,

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[Robb]: what my relationship with her is a very

bizarre, much longer story that one day I'll

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story

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: when I am ready. So when I talk to her

about things, it's hard for me to separate

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say. And I do my best to stay within both.

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I don't want to come off as the guy riding

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look, this guy's a fucking idiot and you'll

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several people. I used to work with a girl

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again, they were very, very bad for each other.

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[Robb]: She wasn't, she was not helpful in that.

They would just drink too much and bicker and

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[Robb]: fight and like, lots of damage to the

house. As a matter of

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: fact, it was in the valley. It's when

I worked. I worked over across the street from

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: She had just, they were bad. And when

they were good, it was good to see them together.

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[Robb]: But when they were bad, it was, I mean,

utter chaos. Like, they would break shit all

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[Robb]: the time in their house. Doors, fucking

windows, cars, car windows, like crazy shit.

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[Robb]: like crazy people shit.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mmm.

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[Robb]: So I've seen this for a long time and

funny, they're not together anymore, what do

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[Tina m Garcia]: I wonder

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[Robb]: People,

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[Tina m Garcia]: why.

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[Robb]: yeah, yeah, because you know, some people

are just flammable liquids and matches.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: And as long as the match isn't lit,

the flammable liquid's fine. But as soon as

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[Robb]: that one little match gets lighted up,

goes to chaos. And to this day, and I think

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[Robb]: maybe seven years, she still has issues

finding a man. And again, not to defend her

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[Robb]: against any man, she's a hard pill to

swallow. She's very rough, very independent,

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[Robb]: very, er. And I kind of step back sometimes

and just go to her and go, you gotta fucking

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[Robb]: relax. Like stop, and she chases bad

boys. fucking M.O.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Is she

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[Robb]: She

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[Tina m Garcia]: trying

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[Robb]: like.

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[Tina m Garcia]: to fix people? Because that's

another thing women do. They'll

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[Robb]: Uh.

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[Tina m Garcia]: get a broken person so they

could fix them. Like, why would you want to

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[Tina m Garcia]: fix somebody that's broken?

Let them fix themselves.

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[Robb]: Yeah, this one doesn't try to fix people.

She just likes bad boys. She likes, you know,

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[Robb]: skater dudes or punk guys or like, you

know, that style of man, which is probably

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I mean? Like,

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[Tina m Garcia]: And even then, was it great?

Come

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[Robb]: it

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[Tina m Garcia]: on.

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[Robb]: probably wasn't great, but it wasn't,

you couldn't get too damaged from it

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[Tina m Garcia]: Right,

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[Robb]: when you were

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[Tina m Garcia]: right.

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[Robb]: young. When you're doing that in your

30s and 40s and 50s, You're not helping any

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[Robb]: situation. And again, maybe just because

I look at the view of, like what do you go

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[Robb]: into a relationship for now? There should

only be one goal, is to settle down. I don't

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[Robb]: wanna date perpetually forever. Whatever

that means, a commitment. Marriage, if that's

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[Robb]: your thing, it is for me, I would love

to get married again, if I found the right

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[Robb]: person. or a serious commitment to where

maybe you're not married, married, but you

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[Robb]: share everything, all your bills, you

wanna wear rings to show people that you're

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[Robb]: together. Whatever that is, some kind

of serious commitment. If you're not in a relationship

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[Robb]: now to have that serious commitment,

to me, you're crazy. At our age, at 30s, 40s,

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[Robb]: 50s. If you're in your 20s, fuck around

all you want. Those are your fuck around years.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Hehe.

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[Robb]: Some people didn't have those fuck around

years though. The girl that I'm talking about

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[Robb]: that I worked with, she had children

early. So she didn't have that time to be messing

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[Robb]: around because she had a child at 18,

19 years old. So all of her 20s were raising

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[Robb]: kid and then another kid and then another

kid. She happened to have three kids. A lot

401

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[Robb]: of that also goes into that too, where

people who had children early are trying to

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[Robb]: party later on in their life or open

up their life later on, where that's gotta

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[Robb]: be a difficult thing. Like, I didn't

have my boy until I was 30, so I had a lot

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[Robb]: of big years, and then now I'm looking

to, look, everyone loves to go out and have

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[Robb]: a good time. I have no problem with

that. But that can't be a lifestyle. You can

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[Robb]: travel, you can do things, but partying

every weekend is not good for anyone. And my

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[Robb]: friend in the valley, she, that's her

thing. And again, we'll grow out of that. But

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[Robb]: I think the growing out part also is

finding somebody who's not perpetually the

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[Robb]: villain or the bad guy, or who's knocking

you down all the time. And I'm not saying that

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would be considered a good guy is a great guy.

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[Robb]: That's not necessarily true either.

But I think the foundation should be, he's

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[Robb]: not a dick. Like, he doesn't say bad

things about how I look every day. He doesn't

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[Robb]: knock me down. He doesn't get violent

at all. I mean, these should be normal things

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[Robb]: in society where they don't seem to

be.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I don't know. It's... Listen,

it... people pick people for like the most

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[Tina m Garcia]: lame reasons, let's be honest.

Like I've even gone out with guys for the lamest

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[Tina m Garcia]: of reasons. I really don't

even need one to be honest with you. To make

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[Tina m Garcia]: a mistake, to do something,

you know, it happens. You have to learn whatever

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[Tina m Garcia]: you're supposed

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[Tina m Garcia]: yourself if you're staying

stuck if you're trying to save somebody if

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[Tina m Garcia]: you're damn captain save a

hoe take off the cape and move away from the

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[Tina m Garcia]: person that you're trying to

fix like it's not going to happen you have

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[Tina m Garcia]: to like love yourself you have

to love you know you have to you have to love

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[Tina m Garcia]: yourself enough to say look

it i want you in my life but if you can't be

425

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[Tina m Garcia]: in my life in in a positive

way get the fuck out

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: and and i think that we we

that because we don't love ourselves enough.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Let's just face it. I've seen

so many women put up with so much shit, but

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[Tina m Garcia]: they have the lowest of self-esteem.

They have all these problems. They, they think

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[Tina m Garcia]: they're worthless. They think

they're ugly. Oh my God. If I have to hear

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[Tina m Garcia]: somebody talk about how ugly

their ears are again, I cut hair. I don't,

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[Tina m Garcia]: nobody even looks at ears.

I look at everything and I don't see ears.

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[Robb]: Right.

434

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[Tina m Garcia]: They quit making a freaking

problem out of everything. Own who you you

435

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[Tina m Garcia]: got to do so you feel better

about it and and get over this shit so that

436

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[Tina m Garcia]: you do pick better so that

you are making better choices so that you're

437

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[Tina m Garcia]: not somebody's mother you know

you have

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: to you have to just stop being

stupid stupid that's what they're being they're

440

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[Tina m Garcia]: being stupid you

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[Robb]: it.

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[Tina m Garcia]: want to be stupid you want

to be abused you want to get hit you want to

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[Tina m Garcia]: be with bad people do it do

it but don't put that on anybody other than

444

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[Tina m Garcia]: yourself because you're making

stupid choices

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[Robb]: Right, and vice versa.

446

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[Tina m Garcia]: Yeah!

447

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[Robb]: If you're a dude who's in the same situation

448

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[Tina m Garcia]: Get the

449

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[Robb]: where

450

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[Tina m Garcia]: fuck out.

451

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[Robb]: you gotta bail out.

452

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[Tina m Garcia]: Seriously, I am so tired of

hearing men say men don't get treated well

453

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[Tina m Garcia]: after like a certain number

of years.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina m Garcia]: They kind of like They're kind

of overlooked and underappreciated

456

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina m Garcia]: and and they're not happy,

but they won't say shit because they're in

458

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[Tina m Garcia]: it Why would you want to stay

with that? And we're getting old who wants

459

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[Tina m Garcia]: to sit on the couch with somebody

that doesn't even want to be around you

460

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[Robb]: Sure.

461

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[Tina m Garcia]: They lost interest a long time

ago and having sex with you. They're not going

462

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[Tina m Garcia]: to want to sit with you either

463

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[Robb]: I tried telling somebody this the other

night, actually I was sitting down with two

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[Robb]: women and we were talking about things

about like that. Like looks are great. Look,

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[Robb]: I absolutely think pretty women are

great and the person

466

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

467

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[Robb]: I'm talking about, I think is utterly

gorgeous. But if you're not stimulating my

468

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[Robb]: brain, it doesn't matter. Your looks

will fade. I don't care how much shit you do

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[Robb]: to yourself. They're gonna fade. We're

all gonna

470

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[Tina m Garcia]: They're

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[Robb]: get

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[Tina m Garcia]: supposed

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[Robb]: old.

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[Tina m Garcia]: to.

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[Robb]: We're all gonna

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[Tina m Garcia]: They're

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[Robb]: get

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[Tina m Garcia]: supposed

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[Robb]: gray.

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[Tina m Garcia]: to. Ahem.

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[Robb]: No, but I mean, but, and look, and like

I'm saying, she's gorgeous, stunning to me.

482

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[Robb]: I think she's absolutely beautiful.

One of the, you know, I would, top notch. But

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[Robb]: I can talk to her. And that turns me

on way more than anything else.

484

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

485

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[Robb]: And I think that that's the bigger thing.

And if you're with somebody who stimulating

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[Robb]: your brain

487

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[Robb]: is the first thing. And maybe, you know,

I think just by the things I listen to, men

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[Robb]: bail quicker. Men get out of things

much quicker. Before marriage, let's say they're

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[Robb]: dating. I think guys,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Oh, before marriage, because

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[Robb]: before

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[Tina m Garcia]: after marriage,

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[Robb]: marriage,

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[Tina m Garcia]: they don't.

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[Robb]: they don't. No, for sure, I have no

problem saying that. That is for absolutely

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[Robb]: sure. But I think it's because guys

are worried of shit. And that's just being

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[Robb]: honest as well.

498

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[Tina m Garcia]: They're gonna lose it staying

with her too. She's gonna

499

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[Robb]: No but

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[Tina m Garcia]: spend

501

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[Robb]: sh-

502

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[Tina m Garcia]: it. It's just the way it is.

They're not gonna get all of their money anytime.

503

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[Robb]: It, no, no, no, no, but your, I think

that the whole thing of going through the divorce

504

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[Robb]: is what hurts the most because you are

gonna lose. And again, before we get too deep

505

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[Robb]: into that, that's a whole other conversation.

I think just with kids and everything else.

506

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[Robb]: But pre-marriage, guys will just bail

out. If they think they're with somebody who

507

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[Robb]: isn't going to be a long run, they just

bail. They'll find somebody else. And again,

508

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[Robb]: I'm generalizing, this isn't everyone,

so listeners don't freak the fuck out. Women

509

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[Robb]: will stay longer to see if they can

fix them. Men fix problems,

510

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[Tina m Garcia]: Yes.

511

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[Robb]: women try to fix people.

512

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[Tina m Garcia]: Yep, I agree

513

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[Robb]: And

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[Tina m Garcia]: with that.

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[Robb]: my friend that I was talking to said

something to me that should stand clear more

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[Robb]: than anything. Her piece of shit told

her deserves a better man. And I said that

517

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[Robb]: was the best fucking thing he's ever

said to you, because he's right.

518

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: You deserve a better man.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm.

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[Robb]: So take his shitty advice and bail the

fuck out. Because she said something to me.

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[Robb]: She goes, you know, I keep trying to

turn pieces of shit into butterflies. And my

523

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[Robb]: advice was find a fucking butterfly.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Yeah, start there.

525

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[Robb]: Because we're out there. And if you're

scared, listener, that you can't do things

526

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[Robb]: on your own or the in-between going

from this piece of shit to a better man, you

527

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[Robb]: can do it. All of

528

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: you. My friend in Vegas has done it,

she's doing fine. My friend in the Valley,

530

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[Robb]: she's doing okay.

531

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[Tina m Garcia]: I didn't think I would be doing

as well as I'm doing. I honestly didn't.

532

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[Robb]: and you are as well.

533

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm, you know, you know what's

funny is not only am I doing well, but he's

534

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[Tina m Garcia]: doing well.

535

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[Robb]: Yes.

536

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[Tina m Garcia]: And nothing got so damaged

that it's left with regret. There's, we did

537

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[Tina m Garcia]: what we did, you know, we left

when we left.

538

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[Tina m Garcia]: for each other for

539

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

540

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[Tina m Garcia]: cutting our losses when we

did as hard

541

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[Robb]: Yes.

542

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[Tina m Garcia]: as it was. Man, I, I, I don't

know how I've done it the last three years

543

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[Tina m Garcia]: because it's been three years

already. I,

544

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

545

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[Tina m Garcia]: I can't, I, I don't know how

I did it but it wasn't all that hard and I

546

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[Robb]: Right.

547

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[Tina m Garcia]: lost everything because of

COVID. Like my job, my car, everything and

548

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[Tina m Garcia]: man, man, people just need

to have more, faith in themselves.

549

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[Robb]: I agree.

550

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[Tina m Garcia]: especially women.

551

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[Robb]: I can say a lot of, actually I can't

even say a lot of bad things about my ex-wife,

552

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[Robb]: but I can tell you that at 40 years

old, she decided she wasn't happy in a marriage

553

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[Robb]: and left and started a new life. And

you know who's doing well? Her.

554

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

555

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[Robb]: And you know who else is doing well?

Me.

556

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[Tina m Garcia]: You. Yeah.

557

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[Robb]: It's okay. It's okay. And again, maybe,

now here's the flip side of that. I'm still

558

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[Robb]: a nice guy. Her new husband is nice

to me, but I've heard otherwise in the scheme

559

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[Robb]: of things. So maybe she just didn't

want a nice guy and she wanted to fight all

560

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[Robb]: the time. More power to her. I don't

wanna fight all the time. I wanna

561

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-mm.

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[Robb]: find somebody that is good for me mentally

and physically stimulates me mentally stimulates

563

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[Robb]: me that you can work on each other together.

I don't want to fix anyone either. It's not

564

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[Robb]: my

565

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-mm.

566

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[Robb]: job to fix her at all, but I will hold

her hand while she's fixing herself. Those

567

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[Tina m Garcia]: And

568

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[Robb]: are the

569

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[Tina m Garcia]: see,

570

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[Robb]: things.

571

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm okay with everybody being

who they are right now, because I think life

572

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[Tina m Garcia]: changes everything to begin

with, but I want somebody that I like being

573

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[Tina m Garcia]: around,

574

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

575

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[Tina m Garcia]: period. Like, it's not rocket

science.

576

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[Robb]: But what I mean by being themselves,

that's okay. But I'm saying that if you want

577

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[Robb]: to fix yourself,

578

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

579

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[Robb]: I'll be there with you to let you fix

yourself. I love you either way. Whether you

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[Robb]: fix yourself or not is irrelevant. But

581

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

582

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[Robb]: if you feel a certain way and you think

there's something that you want to change or

583

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[Robb]: fix in your life, I'm going to be there

to help you. to do it, but I'll stand with

584

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[Robb]: you because that's what partners do

or mates do. I'm there for you either way,

585

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[Robb]: whether I agree or if I don't agree,

but be upfront with who you are. This is who

586

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[Robb]: I am. I am intense. I have no problem

with it. I'm sending you flowers and writing

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[Robb]: you poems, but I'm not fucking kicking

your windows in. It's not who I am.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Thanks for watching!

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[Robb]: I'm not going to tell you that I don't

like your, you know, whatever. your ass a certain

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[Robb]: way. I don't care about that, it's irrelevant

to me. As long as you're coming to the table

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[Robb]: and stimulating my brain and we're having

meaningful conversations for however long,

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[Robb]: hopefully the rest of my life, that's

what I want. I just want people to understand

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[Robb]: out there that the good guys aren't

bad. We're not weak,

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[Tina m Garcia]: And no, and I think

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[Robb]: and we're

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[Tina m Garcia]: I

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[Robb]: not.

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[Tina m Garcia]: think ultimately people know

that I think ultimately women know that But

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[Tina m Garcia]: at the same time They're you

know, they're coming from a different place

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[Tina m Garcia]: in their head men men are much

easier on themselves than women are Like women

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina m Garcia]: are

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[Robb]: agree.

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[Tina m Garcia]: really harsh like harsh harsh

on themselves like to the point where it's

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[Tina m Garcia]: it's disgusting Like to hear

what they could come up with to be so mean

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[Tina m Garcia]: about I'm like damn really

hates herself, truly. I don't think guys get

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[Tina m Garcia]: like that. I mean, now we're

getting to the point where guys have beer bellies,

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[Tina m Garcia]: you know, because of our age

and stuff and

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[Robb]: Sure.

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[Tina m Garcia]: they're like, yeah, it took

me two years to get this belly, you know, and

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[Robb]: Yeah.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I think that that's fantastic

that they're more okay with themselves. Women

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[Tina m Garcia]: still are not.

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[Robb]: I will tell you this though, I think

men hide it better because

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm sure.

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[Robb]: men don't talk to each other about,

oh, I look like shit or whatever. Men look

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[Robb]: in the mirror and kill themselves inside

while they're going through that. We just hide

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[Robb]: it different, we hide everything different.

Men,

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: because of how we're supposed to be

in a relationship or in life, we hide way more,

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[Robb]: way more than women do.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm sure.

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[Robb]: And that's just being honest. Like I

have, we all have that issue. Again, I just

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[Robb]: think women project it way more.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Well, yeah, okay, if you're,

if you still go through all that stuff, looking

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[Tina m Garcia]: in the mirror, like I get it,

but you'll still put out confidence. Women

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[Tina m Garcia]: don't put out the confidence.

And I think that that's what's attractive to

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[Tina m Garcia]: people. It's

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: not like what, what we look

like, essentially. I mean, there is definitely,

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[Tina m Garcia]: there needs to be that, that

gravitational pull towards one another, that,

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[Tina m Garcia]: that initial attraction.

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[Tina m Garcia]: it's more about like the person

it should be about the person and not

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina m Garcia]: what they look like because

you're right looks fade you know I was looking

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[Tina m Garcia]: at pictures of me the other

day going wow I didn't at the time I didn't

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[Tina m Garcia]: think I was good looking and

I was like wow it was really cute and had no

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[Tina m Garcia]: idea because I was too busy

beating on myself

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: now at my age I'm like I don't

really give a shit can I just find somebody

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[Tina m Garcia]: to have fun with and not worry

about all this stuff because I could beat on

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[Tina m Garcia]: myself later if need be.

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[Robb]: Yeah, I mean, look, looking back at

when you're young is the hardest thing. Like

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[Robb]: I don't do that anymore. That's, that's

ridiculous. I'm not that person anymore. I've

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I'm, I'm better actually. I'm better

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[Tina m Garcia]: That's

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[Robb]: than I was

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[Tina m Garcia]: right.

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[Robb]: then. Um, I kind of said that to this

person as well, like the other day, like we

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[Robb]: were talking about things in her life

and she was talking about this piece of shit.

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[Robb]: And look, I'm, I'm all up for confidence,

but I did say something to her. I said, better

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[Robb]: than your man, period. And I know it.

And I generally don't say things like that

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[Robb]: because I'm not,

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[Robb]: I don't have a big ego at all. But in

this case, I had to say it because I know I

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[Robb]: am. And then,

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[Tina m Garcia]: And it's okay to be a man and

hold your own.

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[Robb]: For sure,

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[Tina m Garcia]: And you should.

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[Robb]: but I thought it was, for me, it was

more like, look, I was puffing my chest up

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[Robb]: and I was white knighting and I have

no problem with it. Sometimes you need the

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[Robb]: white knight to come save you. Regardless

of, and independent women who say that they

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[Robb]: don't need that shit, you're lying.

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[Tina m Garcia]: No,

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[Robb]: Every

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[Tina m Garcia]: there's bedtimes.

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[Robb]: blue moon, every blue moon, you have

to have someone

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[Tina m Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: come save you, and that's okay. Don't

be afraid to be saved. Because sometimes you're

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[Robb]: in a shitty situation, you need a little

saving. It doesn't make you weak to a man.

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[Robb]: It just means, yeah, I need a little

help right now. And I think that maybe the

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[Robb]: good guy needs to do that a little bit

more. It's okay. The good guy isn't a facade,

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[Robb]: it isn't a fallacy. There are good guys

that don't have ulterior motive and they were

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[Robb]: real.

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[Tina m Garcia]: They're they're few and far

between though Rob.

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[Robb]: Maybe,

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[Tina m Garcia]: I mean

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[Robb]: that may be

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[Tina m Garcia]: they

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[Robb]: true.

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[Tina m Garcia]: are they are but I think that's

We've as a society we've kind of poisoned both

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[Tina m Garcia]: sides, you know

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[Robb]: For

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[Tina m Garcia]: and

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[Robb]: sure.

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[Tina m Garcia]: that's we're gonna have to

make a comeback on all of these things that

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[Tina m Garcia]: we're doing wrong

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[Robb]: Here's...

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[Tina m Garcia]: and Get back to where we start

loving each other again instead of like being

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[Tina m Garcia]: worried that we're gonna be

wrong

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[Robb]: Here, y'all know, agree. I agree, look.

But I think, yes, you're right, being wronged

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[Robb]: is a killer. And a lot of these fucking

shitheads are wronging people.

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[Tina m Garcia]: but we're expecting it. You

know what I know about men in my life? I don't

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[Tina m Garcia]: expect them to be anything

but wonderful to me. And guess what? They are.

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[Tina m Garcia]: They're wonderful to me because

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[Robb]: Right,

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[Tina m Garcia]: that's what

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[Robb]: right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I expect.

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[Robb]: Sure.

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[Tina m Garcia]: So if we're going to make,

if I started to say, yeah, Rob is a real dick,

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[Tina m Garcia]: you'd have a problem with it.

You would say, you know, you

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina m Garcia]: would

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[Robb]: would.

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[Tina m Garcia]: have something to say and you

would start acting like a dick to prove me

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[Tina m Garcia]: right. That's, I don't do that

to you. We don't have to do that.

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I would do that to you because

you've been the white knight at times that

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[Tina m Garcia]: saved my ass

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: going back to like 18 years

old

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: so we we get what we expect

we get what we give we get what we put out

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[Tina m Garcia]: and we need to start owning

our own shit and as women like quit being so

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[Tina m Garcia]: damn weak that you think you

can't do for yourself because you can

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[Robb]: Well,

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[Tina m Garcia]: you can

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[Robb]: you're proving it, for sure.

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[Tina m Garcia]: yeah I'm proving it I freaking

I never went through a divorce even go about

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[Tina m Garcia]: it. And then how did I do that

where we didn't have not one argument? You

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[Tina m Garcia]: know, there were so many times

I had to go, nope, not today and walk out of

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[Tina m Garcia]: the house when we were supposed

to get together to work on things. But I couldn't

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[Tina m Garcia]: be nice. But guess

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: what? Because I put that expectation

on myself, he followed my lead. We didn't blow

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[Tina m Garcia]: up everything. And

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina m Garcia]: we could have, we could have,

we,

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[Robb]: Oh,

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[Tina m Garcia]: you

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[Robb]: I'm

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[Tina m Garcia]: know,

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[Robb]: sure.

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[Tina m Garcia]: things that were in our marriage,

we could have blown it

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[Robb]: and

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[Tina m Garcia]: What do you expect and what

do you accept? Go with that. Raise the freaking

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[Tina m Garcia]: bar already.

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[Robb]: All right, we're gonna leave it just

on that. That was the

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[Tina m Garcia]: I'm

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[Robb]: perfect

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[Tina m Garcia]: gonna go.

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[Robb]: wording to end that. Raise the bar a

little bit.

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[Tina m Garcia]: Raise the bar.

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[Robb]: All righty. Well, after another nice

50 minutes, it was nice to be back on and

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[Tina m Garcia]: Thanks for watching!

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[Robb]: make sure you roll and listen to this

podcast wherever you can hear podcasts. Go

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[Robb]: on, put in Don't Get This Twisted, follow,

subscribe, go to our socials to hear what we're

749

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[Robb]: talking about, give us some ideas just

like this one because we actually take your

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[Robb]: advice in and

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[Tina m Garcia]: and use

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[Robb]: do

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[Tina m Garcia]: them.

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[Robb]: shows. Lots of them. Actually, if you

look back on all our shows, we have most of

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[Robb]: them are not our ideas. Tina, as always,

it's a pleasure.

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[Tina m Garcia]: I always enjoy coming and doing

this with you.

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[Robb]: And this is an opinion show, so don't

get it twisted. Until next Wednesday for my

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[Robb]: co-host Tina, I am Rob. Thanks a lot

guys, we'll see you in a week.

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