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[00:00:22] Scott: Does this hold up? And just what the hell is a good movie anyway? I'm Frank Roll. I'm Scott Moran. And we're the Last Video Store Clerks.

[00:00:35] Scott: defense. Good defense! My, uh, package came for me. USPS. Okay. It looked like the box from Ace Ventura in the beginning. Just like a square?

[00:00:50] Scott: Yeah. Did he look like Ace Ventura? No, he looked like, uh, like a 23 year old mailman. Oh. How do they get young ones now?

[00:01:07] Frank: got accepted!

[00:01:18] Frank: an Amazon delivery guy? To be a USPS delivery guy.

[00:01:22] Frank: Yeah. Yeah. I went for it.

[00:01:30] Scott: It's just like now. Did they tell you your application has been declined? Three years later?

[00:01:44] Frank: Like, I'm waiting on that call from the USPS. Congratulations, you get that

[00:01:53] Frank: Dude, but what are you supposed to do with

[00:02:06] Scott: And it makes more sense as a TV show, which is exactly what I wanted. I finished reading that book and I was like, well, what the fuck was that? That was wild. And it's not hard to understand what's happening. It's just hard to understand where this is all going. You know what I mean? Yeah. And, uh, it feels like it makes sense seeing it.

[00:02:40] Frank: Okay. Sorry. Yeah. I don't know why that, that was a brain delay there on that one.

[00:02:55] Scott: Yeah, that was some rap or tehano

[00:03:02] Scott: it got inside you is the brown note.

[00:03:09] Scott: blood rush to my head I can't believe you've never seen scotland pa I thought for sure this was one you would bump into at some point This is like a S. T. A. R. S. movie, if ever there

[00:03:24] Frank: So I'm pretty sure this is what happened. I saw Scotland P. A. and you see, like, Christopher Walken, cause he is on, like, most of the he's on the cover, and I think that's the cover that goes around. Actors act they've got downfalls in their career for a minute, and they just do stuff for, you know, work. Like a weird point?

[00:03:57] Scott: now.

[00:04:12] Frank: It's really cool that you were selection.

[00:04:16] Frank: I rented it multiple times. See, I feel like the one that's on there now is what I've always seen.

[00:04:24] Scott: cover.

[00:04:25] Scott: has really freaked me out. Fucked with the covers. Like just use the cover that they had on the movie. Oh, real quick. Like, why is that the cover to powder? You know,

[00:04:37] Frank: It's too much center Peck for me, man. Okay. I'm just, just there's movies. It's like, why are you even going to fuck with it? Really? Who was like, let's get Jill at all and Connor McGregor over here for roadhouse. People just need to say stop at a certain point. But anyway, the Roadhouse cover that's on Prime right now, they have airbrushed the living fuck out of Patrick Swayze's face to the point where, uh Oh, of the original.

[00:05:08] Scott: looks like he's doing the 6 o'clock news.

[00:05:12] Scott: saw it. And you're like He's like leaning up against a wall. Or a door or something. No, it's more like straight on face. Oh, really?

[00:05:23] Frank: oh, I know which one you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it wasn't that one. It was, it's more like, uh, just really framed around like the face and like kind of upper torso.

[00:05:32] Frank: But it might actually be from that shot.

[00:05:36] Scott: yeah, something they shouldn't do is over restore movies to the point where you're like, oh, I can see this person's pores because they didn't use makeup for this quality film. Like why are we making it so good? It just looks bad. Yeah. I don't like that.

[00:05:53] Frank: Awful.

[00:06:20] Scott: You know, like stuff from like around the time we graduated high school. Yeah. It looks fucking old, man. Really old. You should see the six o'clock news from back then. People's hair

[00:06:35] Scott: More attorney. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:06:43] Frank: But, did you not keep having to check? Cause this was 01. If this overlapped with news radio? Why did they look so young? Some of them looked like, cause you know, a lot of them you've seen them in 90's stuff. They looked younger in this than the 90's stuff I'd

[00:07:02] Scott: But I almost wonder if it wasn't filmed a couple years out. I looked, I couldn't find anything. Yeah, neither could I, which was weird. I thought I could find more trivia about this movie, but I could not. Well, no. And just cause we're going to talk Amy smarts, when the other

one,

[00:07:18] Frank: She for sure is, though. This is like post the 90s stuff, though. Like, this is post Varsity Blues, this is post, uh, Starship Troopers, her little role in Starship Troopers. Um, she was the Pre Butterfly Effect, though, I think. And yeah, pre Which is actually, it's a fine movie. I think this would have been right before Road Trip.

[00:07:49] Scott: I find it hard to tell now. I do know that like, Yellowjackets, you look up some of the, the teenage versions of them, like their actual ages, and you're like, Oh, you're like almost 30 years old.

[00:08:15] Frank: No. I'm pretty sure I've only seen like that cover or like similar cover on streaming.

[00:08:32] Scott: I like that they didn't go heavy on the Pennsylvania accents or anything like that.

[00:08:37] Frank: Yeah. Restaurant worker Mac is easily influenced by his wife Pat and starts making power moves to raise his status in life. Unfortunately for the people around him, there's gotta be a little killin and a lot of lyin We learn that success by means of murder and deception leads to a Debbie Downer of an outcome.

[00:09:10] Scott: Yeah, it's easy to mistake this for not like a really black comedy, but it

[00:09:26] Scott: it's funny You say that because the entire soundtrack Is bad company is it the entire thing?

[00:09:57] Scott: It was all bad company songs. It's just. Also, when you think about all the Bad Company songs, it's kind of diverse as far as the way it sounds. When you think about Bad Company, you just think about the song. He went full maximum overdrive. Yeah, but apparently it was super affordable to do so. I guess at the time using Bad Company songs wasn't expensive.

[00:10:17] Frank: now to use somebody for a whole soundtrack? I mean, I'm just saying. Just

[00:10:25] Frank: be negotiated today? Fuck.

[00:10:37] Frank: Unless you catch them at ACL.

[00:10:56] Scott: You read Macbeth when you were in high school? No, no, I did not. Why did you write talk about me reading Macbeth? I mean, I was going to

[00:11:05] Scott: It's just,

[00:11:14] Frank: Yeah. So I, uh, I may have done a cliff notes route before the movie. Oh, before this movie? Yeah. You read the, like, you read the, a summary of Macbeth? I was like, give me a summary. Well, like, you know, summary. And then I'm like, I was like, sum up Macbeth in one sentence. And I didn't go super deep, but I got an understanding of like the general story of Macbeth.

[00:11:37] Scott: Bits of it pop up in a lot of things. There's a little bit of it in Birdman. Really? Yeah. And even there's a guy outside of the theater, like a homeless man screaming the monologue from Macbeth. Cause it's the, like, Life is a Tale Told by an Idiot. Oh, in Birdman? Full of Sound and Fury.

[00:12:02] Frank: McBeth. A.

[00:12:08] Frank: Yes.

[00:12:17] Scott: There were a lot of weird little threads in there that I liked.

[00:12:22] Scott: old? And then I was like, dipshit. Oh, it's the seventies. And then Maura Turney plays Pat Macbeth or Lady Macbeth. Maura Turney. Maura Turney. Christopher Walken plays Lieutenant Macduff.

[00:12:49] Frank: did a run on Law and Order for a while. Really? Oh, I saw him randomly in like a Crimson Tide type movie. If it wasn't Crimson Tide, it was like one of those U 571 or something.

[00:13:00] Scott: I think. He's still around doing stuff. And the three witches are played by Amy Smart. Tommy Lebditch? I couldn't find that guy in very many things that I recognized. Andy Dick looked very young. You Very young. Yeah. So that's two news radio cast members, Andy Dick and Maura attorney or attorney, very attractive.

[00:13:34] Frank: Robert California's wife in the American office

[00:13:45] Scott: 6 on IMDb and that's high dollar IMDb. That's pretty good Yeah, have we ever seen a 9 is there a 9 on IMDb? Does any movie have a 9 it or is Is ate the ceiling.

[00:14:10] Scott: movie, the psychology that goes into what would be a nine on IMDb.

[00:14:26] Frank: to

[00:14:26] Frank: perspective. Beautiful mind. 8. 2. I knew that that was a higher movie because I've looked it up before. It's not my nine though. I've seen a nine.

[00:14:36] Scott: Bad old age makeup. That's what I think at the end of that movie, Jennifer Connelly, not good aging.

[00:14:46] Scott: her, but like when they make them look like old people at the end of the movie and she's sitting in the crowd. That's fucking terrible.

[00:15:02] Frank: It's like, no, you're the, you're the dipshit asshole.

[00:15:12] Frank: Think about it this way. It wasn't fast food. At first, it was a restaurant. It was a cafe. They became fast food workers.

[00:15:33] Scott: restaurant that we know of? Yeah, the Hey, is Frank

[00:15:37] Scott: We got Pat over there on the stove. I was trying to decide how big this town was.

[00:15:48] Frank: Yeah, cause Like it was

[00:15:54] Frank: that, uh, Detective McDuff puts on the car, that was so funny. Yeah, because he went to Jersey, didn't he? So, I'm thinking Eastern Pennsylvania?

[00:16:14] Scott: He did at one point go to Atlantic City to go find Smalls.

[00:16:24] Frank: Oh, and I feel like this is the first time I saw Smalls in a movie at like that age.

[00:16:30] Frank: sure. You know, he's

[00:16:43] Scott: Uh, and I was like, there was an adult. Male black guy. And he was in the interrogation room with them. And I was like looking at him and I was like, that's fucking Walt from lost. And I looked it up and it fucking was, and it was like, I saw this child in this full grown man. You know, when that happens with a child actor and you like, look at him and you're like, kid was in fucking milk money.

[00:17:24] Frank: around and he's good. Yeah. I didn't realize I'd seen him in so many things. You start scrolling through his credits.

[00:17:34] Scott: as time goes on. So he plays a lot of different kinds of guys. This is a very like specific age for all these people.

[00:17:51] Frank: Oh, yeah. I like that guy. You know? Yeah. I feel like while they don't have, like, the exact same look, I feel like

[00:18:01] Frank: I

[00:18:02] Frank: And that

[00:18:06] Scott: Only so many phases to

[00:18:15] Scott: bearded is different than him with it. Dan Stevens does that too. He disappears into movies. Dude,

[00:18:22] Scott: guy.

[00:18:36] Scott: Sorry, that's it.

[00:18:55] Frank: No,

[00:19:00] Frank: Oh, he's weird. He's in the new Godzilla Kong Well, the guy is like in a ton of stuff. I'm still trying to find what I really know him from I know I've watched a ton of shit with him in it, but I'm not like oh the rental

[00:19:18] Scott: Yeah dark hair. He disappears into stuff And I'll be like, Oh my God, that's that fucking guy again. Yeah, Izzy just pulled a Clark Kent on my ass. Yeah. I was

[00:19:27] Scott: Oh! Yeah, like he plays a good bad guy or like a good kind of dope, you know? He's not blonde. Yeah, don't trust those blonde people. I'm fucking a It's been coming up a lot.

[00:19:58] Frank: We

[00:19:58] Frank: anything

[00:20:00] Scott: Oh. Can't say anything about gypsies. Or Jennifer Connelly. Are there a lot of gypsies around that get offended? They're going to be like, I mean, those are my people.

[00:20:27] Scott: The manager guy of the restaurant, too, in the beginning of it, that's a guy that is in everything. And he was at an age

[00:20:37] Scott: him.

[00:20:53] Frank: For sure. Yeah. And it's really strange. Cause like you were saying, I dug to see, cause you know, sometimes the date is like a couple of years after for some, you know, for indie

[00:21:04] Frank: um, I couldn't find shit else outside of 2001.

[00:21:15] Scott: Like the Kevin Smith thrill had long since worn off and

[00:21:34] Scott: some nice gore in it, too. Yes. Like it had some really weird little things and there were just like little lines throughout the whole movie where I was like The french fry truck.

[00:21:52] Frank: At the very damn this cocoa and I like that she said fuckity fuck fuck well, did you see the trivia on that? No Um, apparently, you know, she was married to uh, what's his name billy morissette. Yeah the director Yeah, so, uh something happened and she like got startled And was just like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, and just, but like in real life.

[00:22:15] Frank: movie.

[00:22:23] Frank: Kevin Corrigan. Was he the one from Slums of Beverly Hills? Yeah. Okay. I always get, I always get him mixed up with somebody else. So I'm always afraid to say that one, but that one is him.

[00:22:35] Frank: And

[00:22:40] Frank: age forever, right?

[00:22:49] Scott: Yeah, but I don't think it's like a confusing thing like Gary Oldman Like, how old is Gary Oldman? Because he's been playing an old guy since he was a young guy.

[00:23:00] Scott: Yeah, he talks like this in the fifth album. He's got a Texas accent, but it's kind of weird.

[00:23:18] Frank: Who's the, who gets to spray Oldman? Doubt it. So, as I said, I'm sorry. I never read Macbeth. I'm not cultured. I

[00:23:42] Scott: I'd get the book on tape, the full cast presentation.

[00:23:48] Scott: Or I would watch the, uh, like PBS version of it, like the masterpiece theater version of a Shakespeare play. I would watch those just to get through it. It was like, I could read this whole thing or I could just watch it happen and write about that.

[00:24:15] Scott: It was closed when you got there. Fucking closed for some reason. Came all

[00:24:22] Scott: Um, no, this, there's some good versions of Macbeth though that have been made into movies. There's a Roman Polanski one that's weird and gory. There is a Denzel Washington one for some reason. I've seen that in his credits before. I think. There is also a, the Denzel Washington's good, it's a good version of it.

[00:25:04] Frank: shit nuts.

[00:25:06] Frank: No, but I mean this, the story, the weird, the weirdness really got me.

[00:25:13] Frank: movie. Some of that almost gave me like the Twin Peaks twitch.

[00:25:25] Frank: I love the way how he had like the inspirational, possibly religious tapes playing on his little road trips back and forth.

[00:25:31] Scott: do not remember that. Also, I don't remember the opening credits of this movie being like that weird seventies TV show that is later being played. I forgot to try to find out what that was. And I read a bunch of stuff about this movie and didn't find a ton.

[00:25:49] Frank: I was like, I know him. He was in like Westerns or like one of the old cop shows on TV in that like 70s era. Real asshole in everything that he was in though, I feel like, or like a cowboy. Still don't remember the name though, but I feel like there's somebody notable in it. The brothers were trippy as fuck.

[00:26:10] Scott: but it's like the 70s. Yeah, so they just kind of look at him weird Christopher Walken was the less goofy than I remembered him being like he had some serious moments where you're like, oh, yeah He's he's the cop.

[00:26:28] Frank: Yeah, but it turns out he wasn't like an accomplished dancer early in his career. Did you

[00:26:59] Scott: Yeah. And then he's the emperor in Dune. French fry truck.

[00:27:24] Frank: Yeah.

[00:27:25] Frank: more attorneys

[00:27:34] Scott: And she keeps taking baths to try to get rid of it. And this one, she has the burn and she just keeps putting burn cream on it. I like the little turns that he had. I love when they go on the hunting trip and he starts to go bad and he's like becoming all paranoid and crazy because he starts the movie out.

[00:28:13] Scott: Yeah, they had to go pick the van up. She kept being like, who, when are you gonna pick up the van? Like when he gets the phone call? I didn't know exactly what was happening. But there is that like weird supernatural element in it. Trace Brujas, up in the mountains. Out in a field, in a carnival.

[00:28:36] Scott: It is, yeah.

[00:28:37] Scott: a sword song. Three Witches.

[00:28:45] Scott: The sword has another song called Maid Mother and Crone. It's like a literary thing that it happens over and over again. Three Witches, yeah.

[00:28:54] Scott: We have to talk about the standoff on the roof. That's right. How could I forget?

[00:29:22] Scott: Like the rest of the fucked up. Yeah. But I do like that. He tries to shove a hamburger in his mouth. Like that was like the little sliver of that that was retained. Was that he like, cause why were there like, there were like two burgers and fries and shit like that up on the roof with him. Like he planned that out.

[00:29:49] Frank: tray.

[00:30:03] Scott: Where was the regular sheriff in all of this? Like the only cop you see other than the detective they hire to come in from out of town. Is this, uh, deputy doofy.

[00:30:29] Scott: Maybe you're right. Sheriff is usually county, right?

[00:30:39] Scott: Um, yeah, maybe, but where, who was the, was he the only cop in this office?

[00:30:50] Frank: Yeah. It was probably just like

[00:30:55] Frank: hall

[00:30:55] Frank: whatever feel like I saw in one of the scenes somebody in background But they like never showed it again never made any noise But other

[00:31:12] Frank: I

[00:31:13] Frank: it looked old Like it looked old not just the setting it looked fucking old

[00:31:22] Frank: I don't even know if they could with that

[00:31:25] Scott: And I dig that.

[00:31:27] Scott: It's just weird to me that stuff from 2001 looks so dated, you know?

[00:31:34] Scott: here in the room,

[00:31:46] Frank: It's just the way the light. So if you see me looking at you, weird, it's cause you look like you have a mullet, you rock it though. And that's talking about Mac in the seventies thing. Like, I feel like I'm extending your hair.

[00:32:05] Frank: just, it was hitting me more and more.

[00:32:13] Scott: The danger with picking a movie like this for this podcast is like, It's, I don't really want to talk about the plot of Macbeth and how good it is, but everybody in this movie was really fun to watch.

[00:32:26] Frank: It was

[00:32:30] Frank: She's fucking got the mitt. She starts wearing the mitt. When's the last time she's walking the

[00:32:46] Frank: Well, in my brain did several things, you know, the circus at the beginning, the small set where the, which is gypsy, the hippies are the small circus where the hippies are. Yeah. Once he gets in small town, I put together the timeline and everything. I'm like, Oh, these are like young people at the. Just working the local carnival.

[00:33:25] Frank: I was like, oh, yeah, I haven't seen you since you walked in the garage Sorry guy because really at the beginning you think he's a dumbass You Yeah, they just throw him in the back of the fucking truck. But he's the one

[00:33:39] Scott: Yeah, like, through his

[00:33:43] Scott: Yeah, and they underestimated him. They left his party. They knew, figured he wouldn't remember. You never see James Lagrasse as the main fucking character in anything, but this is, this is his shining moment. It was.

[00:34:01] Frank: Little bit of lip.

[00:34:04] Frank: A little bit of lip.

[00:34:12] Frank: I'm excited.

[00:34:18] Scott: Howard the duck. Of this podcast. It's not Howard the duck. It's Butt Boy.

[00:34:25] Scott: now. Yeah, because Amazon did away with freebie so it no longer has commercials. And Butt Boy is like, on there. Man, I have wanted to watch this movie for a long time, and I have been saving it for this podcast.

[00:34:38] Frank: would have paid for this shit. Well, no, and I did not know that's what you were gonna say, but I will tell you, it's been popping up when I scroll. And I'm like, this is, Scott talked about this, and I think about you when I see it, and I didn't, it didn't click that you were gonna call it. It was

[00:34:56] Scott: It was like for rent and it was for freebie and I was like, no one is gonna fucking rent this movie to listen to our podcast when it was so new at the time to, uh, I really have wanted to do this the whole time. This is ridiculous. This is so.

[00:35:20] Frank: It's going to get your attention. And for me, it was like, well, what? And then it was like, yeah, you told me about it

[00:35:41] Scott: Yeah. It's a movie about a man who may or may not be killing people by eating them with his butt. Detective that is in recovery who is on the hunt. Butt Boy definitely gets my attention. It doesn't even need the, like, cover of the special to get you there.

[00:36:28] Scott: It's like the kids are on drugs. It's wonderful.

[00:36:44] Frank: com.