00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:05 Recommended Reading for Women: True Feelings by Carolyn Mahaney
01:01 Recommended Reading for Men: Uprooting Anger by Robert D. Jones
01:32 Additional Book Recommendations
03:43 Exploring GoodReads and Summer Reading List
04:34 Bible Reading: 2 Samuel 19-21
06:00 David's Return and Leadership Challenges
08:13 Sheba's Rebellion and Joab's Actions
09:31 The Gibeonites and Saul's Broken Treaty
13:23 David's Battles with the Philistines
15:48 Conclusion and Farewell
Happy Sunday, everybody.
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:Welcome back to another edition
of the daily Bible podcast.
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:Lord's day.
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:It's a good day.
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:It is, it is, Hey, a resource that
I wanted to suggest based on our
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:conversation on feelings, feelings.
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:There it is.
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:Uh, that my wife reminded me about that.
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:Uh, it's specifically for the ladies
out there, but it is the book by
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:Carolyn Mahaney called a true feelings.
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:Uh, yeah, by Carolyn McKinney.
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:Mahaney, but, uh, my wife has found it
immensely valuable to her and it addresses
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:things specifically, obviously from a
female perspective, but really focuses on.
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:Our feelings are valid as they
correspond to what is valuable to God.
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:Okay.
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:Um, rather than a helpful thought than
what is valuable specifically to us,
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:because it talks about getting caught
in the riptides of different emotions,
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:like jealousy or bitterness or anger.
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:These things that can sweep over us when
we evaluate something that God has not.
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:Place the same value on.
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:And so our feelings are,
are valid when they're in.
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:In congruence with what God values.
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:That makes perfect sense.
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:Yeah.
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:Uh, a recommendation for the guys.
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:Is is not called true feelings.
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:This one's called uprooting anger.
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:By Robert D.
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:Jones.
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:Subtitled biblical help
for a common problem.
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:I think probably for men, this is going to
be the one that most readily shows itself.
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:And so this is probably a short,
but very punchy and helpful book.
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:Dealing with those feelings,
if you happen to have them.
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:And I think after you read this book, you
might find yourself saying, you know what.
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:I think I do have this.
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:I've used that book multiple times
recommended that in counseling.
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:So that's a, that's a great one.
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:Yep.
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:Any others while we're at it, since
we're recommending resources here?
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:Uh, that's the only one that had
prepared off the top of my head, man.
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:I'm not.
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:I'm not ready to.
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:Through more, but if you have more.
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:I'm sure.
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:I'm sure you do.
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:I.
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:I like books.
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:I could recommend books
that are helpful, but.
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:So by Bob Jones.
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:Uh, not, not Bob Jones from
the university, but Robert
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:Jones is his full name.
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:Bob Jones, I guess it probably true
for Bob Jones university as well.
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:Isn't it?
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:Anyway.
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:Bob Jones.
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:Has a resource that I go to
over and over again, it's called
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:the gospel for disordered life.
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:The gospel.
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:Oh, for just.
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:Yeah, just the gospel.
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:There's a, there's a,
there's the rest of that.
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:The gospel for disordered
lives by Bob Jones.
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:He as a coauthor, um, Bob green.
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:Uh, and something Kellen.
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:I forget not, not Kellen
from, from the Aliso vehicle.
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:Not that one, but anyhow.
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:Uh, Robert D.
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:Jones.
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:So he's also behind the book that I
just recommended the anger, uprooting
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:anger, but he has a sticker it's
kind of a textbook, but it's better,
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:better thought of as a reference book.
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:Um, for biblical counseling called
the gospel for disordered lives.
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:One of my favorite purchases.
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:Awesome.
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:Yeah.
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:I just thought of another one that
I actually just finished reading.
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:Five lies of our anti-Christian
age by Rosaria Butterfield.
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:That one Butterfield has something
to do with our feelings, but it's
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:more, um, Rosaria, Butterfield, former
feminist, who, uh, pursued an unnatural
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:relationship if I can put it that way.
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:And then she was converted and is
now married and has children as well.
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:And so.
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:Um, she's got quite the
testimony, but great book.
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:Processing through a lot of the arguments,
which are feeling based from our culture
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:regarding things along the lines of
gender identity and so forth and so on.
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:And in that camp.
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:So five lives of our anti-Christian
age, I would commit it to you.
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:It's a good read.
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:Really anything desires written.
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:I've not read that one yet.
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:And I have, I'll get to it at some point.
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:But the three books before this,
the secret thoughts of an unlikely
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:convert, openness unhindered.
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:And I think the one before this,
the gospel comes with the house key.
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:Yep.
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:All.
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:All of those were so good.
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:Yep.
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:Yeah.
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:So there you go.
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:There's some, uh, Some reading
material for you this summer.
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:We've got to maybe, maybe just maybe
pass around and I'll put together like
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:a summer reading list, like, oh man.
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:Molar does.
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:I've got recommendations.
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:And we probably notice there as
fun as Molly are you on good reads.
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:Do you, are you on the Goodrich thing?
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:I am.
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:And I'm trying to update it more
this year than I ever have, because.
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:Kind of jumped on and off in the past.
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:I was on.
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:Super early and same.
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:So I'm trying to be more faithful.
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:Oh, well, let's, let's do it together.
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:Then.
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:I'll faithfully update mine.
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:You face.
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:We'll try to help our audience,
our church and our audience.
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:Uh, find some good books to read.
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:Yeah.
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:So if you don't have good reads, it's a,
it's an app that you can social media.
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:Actually, it is social
media, but it's a it's.
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:It's a productive social media.
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:It's a positive social
media, all around books.
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:Um, yeah, it's a way for you to
put onto your different shelves,
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:what you want to read, what you're
currently reading, you can update
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:your status and what you're reading.
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:You can see right in your book.
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:Beause ratings on books.
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:That'll be helpful.
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:So we would invite you to join
on and follow us on there.
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:Good.
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:Good reads is the app.
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:So you can get good reads.
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:The Bible is a pretty good reading.
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:It's the best reading.
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:I would say it to the best read.
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:Second Samuel 19 through 21
second, Samuel 19 through 21.
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:Uh, rejoins the action
following Absalom's death.
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:So you'll remember, uh, Absalom
was caught between these tree
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:branches and Joanne killed them by
running him through with his Spears.
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:After David had said,
Hey, don't kill my son.
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:Deal gently with him.
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:Uh, job's certainly did not deal gently
with, uh, with Absalom now in the
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:aftermath of this, David is morning and
he's in grief in, in verses five and six.
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:Joanne comes in and confronts David
over his grief and says you have
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:turned in what should be a day of
celebration into a day of mourning.
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:Uh, for your people and, uh,
I mean, I, I think we talked
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:I think job's right in this.
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:I think this is good counsel from job yet.
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:Again, similar to when he was recovering
from a sin with, or the confrontation
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:from Nathan after the sin with Bathsheba
and the death of his son and job comes
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:home and says, Hey, you need to come
see you have this victory for us.
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:Come be the king that people
need you to be the king.
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:Similarly here.
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:He's saying, look, you've been restored.
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:You need to come back and, and
take your rightful place again.
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:I agree.
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:This is a good move from
Joanne against shrewd guy.
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:Uh, a murderer at the same time, and
we're going to see some more of that
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what a good friend will do though,
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:a friend who will confront you.
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the best way possible.
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:And I don't know, a judge motivation
is a, hopefully it's a good one.
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:Hopefully it's for the king and
for the nation, it seems like
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:Uh, it's not going to pay off for him
though, because when David returns
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:to Jerusalem, David takes another.
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:Individual a Massa and replaces Joanne
with this man, a massive as his military
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:commander and David's strength of
leadership is, is seen here in this
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:passage, as he reunites the people
after this brief civil war has broken
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:out, but that's kind of his return.
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:Uh, back to Jerusalem there
where Absalom had been, and
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:he had fled and now he's back.
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:Uh, verses 16 through 39, then we see
some of David's magnanimous mercy.
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chief offenders, including even shimmy
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:I who had thrown rocks at him and
cursed him as he left a reus alum.
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:Um, and this is the text where we seen
the Fitbit chef come forward and reveals
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:their to David, or at least claims that
Zeba had deceived him, left him behind.
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David and David's response.
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should be divided, but Mephibosheth's
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:And that again is what leads us to, to
conclude that we think that Mafibisha.
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:Uh, in, in this conflict rather than Zeba.
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David identifies a, uh, individual by the
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:The LA bar?
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:But Barilla, Barilla, Barilla.
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:Zillah yeah, I miss the Z.
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:So my bad, it doesn't have
anything to do with pasta, pasta.
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:I did like a good pasta meat too, man.
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:But it, uh, David, I notified him
and shows him honor as somebody who
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:helped him when he fled from Absalom.
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:We don't know much about this
guy, aside from that, but.
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for what he is, has done.
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:And then the finally the chapter
ends with the Israelites fighting.
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:Over where David should reside in, perhaps
the earliest signs of some of the strain
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bit about Judah being the
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the facade here that aren't going to
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this, but they may be forming right now.
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the division at the end of second
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:CMO, 19 leads, a worthless man
named Sheba to attempt to accrue,
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:to lure the Northern tribes away
from David and David dispatched.
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:A massive remember he replaced Joanne with
a massive, so he just pass it dispatches.
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:Uh, Massa along with Joe and Abishai
and the army to quell the rebellion
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:before it could do more harm
than Absalom's had in a long way.
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:Joanne.
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:Uh, murder's a massive, so
massive is not going to be in
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:charge for very long because Joe.
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:Uh, gets jealous.
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:And, uh, and here we see some of
the shady character of job as he
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:rises up in, in murders and Masa and
effectively takes back his place as
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David's forces following threatened
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city says, Hey, Hold on.
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take care of him, cuts off his
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:Is Joe AB jealous or is it
just, you're being Joe at.
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there in the first place.
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Hey, let's try to wreck rectify
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the guy that they're used to now.
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:You're dead now.
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:Thank you for my job back.
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:It's well, within job's
character, it seems to me.
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:Magellan.
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:I was going to take care of
business on the dispatch.
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:You, Hey, come here.
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:Come here.
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:Uh, chapter 21, then
they give you a nights.
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:Uh, show up and you remember the
giving that Ted had made the covenant
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:with with Joshua after deceiving
him, they had put on the, the.
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and everything else and the stale bread.
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were coming from a far country.
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seek the Lord's counsel.
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them, and that was a bad thing.
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point, and we don't have it.
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:Laid out for us in scripture, but at
some point, Saul had transgressed this
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:treaty by attacking the Gibeah nights.
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:Uh, David agreed to turn
over seven of Saul's sons.
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:Uh, because there was a famine
that God brought upon the people
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:of Israel, because they had broken
their word to the giving nights.
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for breaking a treaty with the people
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Israel for not being faithful to their
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sons who, which he does, uh, sparing.
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:He doesn't give a Fitbit chef in this,
but he turns these sons over who then are
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and she's, it seems to be a faithful mom
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bodies in her grief and would not allow
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hearing this, David wanted to honor her.
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Saul and Jonathan and the seven
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:But this turned away God's
wrath from Israel and.
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:I guess made things right between
Israel and that they give unites there.
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:How is it possible that
SOLs sons grandsons.
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behalf of what Saul does.
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:He, I guess he acknowledges it by saying,
okay, blood guilt has been satisfied.
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is human sacrifice essentially.
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from the house of Saul, do you think?
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delight in the death of the wicked even.
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from God to say, this is, this is good.
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we were wrestling back and forth, I
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:think offline about corporate guilt.
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:And, um, I think that's
probably fits the bill here.
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:As far as this, this situation
is, is concerned that
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:Um, not in the same way that has
been bandied about in, in culture
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:But here that the guilt for breaking and
transgressing God's law that is passed
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:down from generation to generation, uh,
That, that the sins of the father will
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:be visited on the next generation, the
generation after the generation after.
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:And so I think we see a little
bit of that in this instance.
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:This is a hard section and in part,
because we're trying to wrestle with okay.
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:Th this is a different
mindset than ours today.
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:And on top of that, this
is something that got it.
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:Doesn't commend, but certainly accepts.
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:He does remove the wrath from the house
of Saul and consequently the house of
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:Israel as a whole, because of what happens
here, but still, I just want to point out.
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:And the king David, he doesn't
go to God and say, God, what
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:He goes to the Gibeah nights and they
say, we'll give a seven and the sons.
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:And I'm sure the number
seven is significant.
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:Complete full whole, that whole thing.
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:And then, and then God turns
it away, but notice God doesn't
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they're removed from being hanged.
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:So I wonder if there's something
there that gives us an indication
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taken down or removed was something
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:that he did approve of and say,
that's, that's not what I wanted,
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one way or the other, but I suspect
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:When the rest of the chapter war breaks
out again with the Philistines, a
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:constant thorn in the side of David
and after David who was almost killed
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:in battle, the men basically say,
Hey, David, we're going to go ahead
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:Uh, we want you to stay back here and
no longer go out and fight with us.
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:Uh, one quick note in 21, 19,
this is a different Goliath.
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:This is not a textual error
or anything else like that.
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:This is somebody else that was
named Goliath that shows up here in
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:Because David David killed
Goliath a long time ago.
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first, first Chronicles,:
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you know, maybe an emendation, an
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:Where the reference is to Goliath brother
or, uh, let's see here versus verse 19.
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the Philistines at gob and L L
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:Hannon, the son of JaRay origin.
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:The Bethlehemite struck down.
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:Uh, Lee, I forget the guy's name in
first Chronicles,:
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:The Shafter who's being was
like a spear of a or whatever.
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gives me pause to say, I wonder if
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me just pull up first Chronicles.
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:Uh, 2015, let me quote
it to you real quick.
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:First Chronicles, I put 2015,
but that's not, that's clearly
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with the Philistines and L
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:Henan the son of John Jr.
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:Struck down LaMi, the brother of
Goliath, the get tight, the shaft of
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but they say different things.
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is probably the one that we should
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:So this must be a scribal error.
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:That was my, that was my understanding.
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:There's there's uh, there's
multiple views on it.
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:There's also, um, the view, like
I suggested that Goliath was a
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:common name, especially among
Philistia, which is another.
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:Uh, another suggestion, even as that
Goliath came to be a, a pseudonym
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:Somebody was a Goliath and you
go, oh man, he's a, he's a giant.
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:Um, and so that, that that's possible
as well, but any of those are valid
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:solutions that wouldn't undermine
the authority of scripture here.
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