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May 19, 2024 - 2 Samuel 19-21
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00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:05 Recommended Reading for Women: True Feelings by Carolyn Mahaney

01:01 Recommended Reading for Men: Uprooting Anger by Robert D. Jones

01:32 Additional Book Recommendations

03:43 Exploring GoodReads and Summer Reading List

04:34 Bible Reading: 2 Samuel 19-21

06:00 David's Return and Leadership Challenges

08:13 Sheba's Rebellion and Joab's Actions

09:31 The Gibeonites and Saul's Broken Treaty

13:23 David's Battles with the Philistines

15:48 Conclusion and Farewell

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Happy Sunday, everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the daily Bible podcast.

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Lord's day.

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It's a good day.

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It is, it is, Hey, a resource that

I wanted to suggest based on our

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conversation on feelings, feelings.

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There it is.

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Uh, that my wife reminded me about that.

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Uh, it's specifically for the ladies

out there, but it is the book by

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Carolyn Mahaney called a true feelings.

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Uh, yeah, by Carolyn McKinney.

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Mahaney, but, uh, my wife has found it

immensely valuable to her and it addresses

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things specifically, obviously from a

female perspective, but really focuses on.

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Our feelings are valid as they

correspond to what is valuable to God.

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Okay.

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Um, rather than a helpful thought than

what is valuable specifically to us,

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because it talks about getting caught

in the riptides of different emotions,

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like jealousy or bitterness or anger.

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These things that can sweep over us when

we evaluate something that God has not.

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Place the same value on.

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And so our feelings are,

are valid when they're in.

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In congruence with what God values.

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That makes perfect sense.

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Yeah.

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Uh, a recommendation for the guys.

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Is is not called true feelings.

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This one's called uprooting anger.

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By Robert D.

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Jones.

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Subtitled biblical help

for a common problem.

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I think probably for men, this is going to

be the one that most readily shows itself.

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And so this is probably a short,

but very punchy and helpful book.

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Dealing with those feelings,

if you happen to have them.

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And I think after you read this book, you

might find yourself saying, you know what.

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I think I do have this.

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Yeah.

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I've used that book multiple times

recommended that in counseling.

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So that's a, that's a great one.

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Yep.

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Any others while we're at it, since

we're recommending resources here?

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Uh, that's the only one that had

prepared off the top of my head, man.

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I'm not.

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I'm not ready to.

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Through more, but if you have more.

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I'm sure.

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I'm sure you do.

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I.

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I like books.

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I could recommend books

that are helpful, but.

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So by Bob Jones.

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Uh, not, not Bob Jones from

the university, but Robert

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Jones is his full name.

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Bob Jones, I guess it probably true

for Bob Jones university as well.

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Isn't it?

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Anyway.

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Bob Jones.

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Has a resource that I go to

over and over again, it's called

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the gospel for disordered life.

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The gospel.

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Oh, for just.

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Yeah, just the gospel.

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There's a, there's a,

there's the rest of that.

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The gospel for disordered

lives by Bob Jones.

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He as a coauthor, um, Bob green.

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Uh, and something Kellen.

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I forget not, not Kellen

from, from the Aliso vehicle.

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Not that one, but anyhow.

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Uh, Robert D.

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Jones.

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So he's also behind the book that I

just recommended the anger, uprooting

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anger, but he has a sticker it's

kind of a textbook, but it's better,

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better thought of as a reference book.

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Um, for biblical counseling called

the gospel for disordered lives.

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One of my favorite purchases.

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Awesome.

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Yeah.

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I just thought of another one that

I actually just finished reading.

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Five lies of our anti-Christian

age by Rosaria Butterfield.

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That one Butterfield has something

to do with our feelings, but it's

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more, um, Rosaria, Butterfield, former

feminist, who, uh, pursued an unnatural

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relationship if I can put it that way.

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And then she was converted and is

now married and has children as well.

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And so.

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Um, she's got quite the

testimony, but great book.

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Processing through a lot of the arguments,

which are feeling based from our culture

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regarding things along the lines of

gender identity and so forth and so on.

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And in that camp.

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So five lives of our anti-Christian

age, I would commit it to you.

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It's a good read.

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Really anything desires written.

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I've loved.

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I've not read that one yet.

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And I have, I'll get to it at some point.

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But the three books before this,

the secret thoughts of an unlikely

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convert, openness unhindered.

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And I think the one before this,

the gospel comes with the house key.

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Yep.

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All.

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All of those were so good.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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So there you go.

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There's some, uh, Some reading

material for you this summer.

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We've got to maybe, maybe just maybe

pass around and I'll put together like

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a summer reading list, like, oh man.

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Molar does.

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I've got recommendations.

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And we probably notice there as

fun as Molly are you on good reads.

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Do you, are you on the Goodrich thing?

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I am.

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And I'm trying to update it more

this year than I ever have, because.

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Kind of jumped on and off in the past.

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I was on.

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Super early and same.

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So I'm trying to be more faithful.

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Oh, well, let's, let's do it together.

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Then.

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I'll faithfully update mine.

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You face.

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We'll try to help our audience,

our church and our audience.

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Uh, find some good books to read.

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Yeah.

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So if you don't have good reads, it's a,

it's an app that you can social media.

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Actually, it is social

media, but it's a it's.

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It's a productive social media.

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It's a positive social

media, all around books.

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Um, yeah, it's a way for you to

put onto your different shelves,

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what you want to read, what you're

currently reading, you can update

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your status and what you're reading.

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You can see right in your book.

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Beause ratings on books.

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That'll be helpful.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we would invite you to join

on and follow us on there.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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Good reads is the app.

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So you can get good reads.

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The Bible is a pretty good reading.

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It's the best reading.

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I would say it to the best read.

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Second Samuel 19 through 21

second, Samuel 19 through 21.

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Uh, rejoins the action

following Absalom's death.

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So you'll remember, uh, Absalom

was caught between these tree

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branches and Joanne killed them by

running him through with his Spears.

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After David had said,

Hey, don't kill my son.

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Deal gently with him.

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Uh, job's certainly did not deal gently

with, uh, with Absalom now in the

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aftermath of this, David is morning and

he's in grief in, in verses five and six.

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Joanne comes in and confronts David

over his grief and says you have

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turned in what should be a day of

celebration into a day of mourning.

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Uh, for your people and, uh,

I mean, I, I think we talked

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about this briefly yesterday.

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I think job's right in this.

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I think this is good counsel from job yet.

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Again, similar to when he was recovering

from a sin with, or the confrontation

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from Nathan after the sin with Bathsheba

and the death of his son and job comes

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home and says, Hey, you need to come

see you have this victory for us.

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Come be the king that people

need you to be the king.

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Similarly here.

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He's saying, look, you've been restored.

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You need to come back and, and

take your rightful place again.

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I agree.

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Yeah.

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This is a good move from

Joanne against shrewd guy.

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Uh, a murderer at the same time, and

we're going to see some more of that

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soon, but at this point, this juncture.

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I would say he's a, he's a worthy friend.

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Yeah.

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I mean, even if it hurts and that's

what a good friend will do though,

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a friend who will confront you.

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And challenge you in

the best way possible.

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And I don't know, a judge motivation

is a, hopefully it's a good one.

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Hopefully it's for the king and

for the nation, it seems like

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it is, this is a good move.

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Yeah, it is a good move.

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Uh, it's not going to pay off for him

though, because when David returns

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to Jerusalem, David takes another.

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Individual a Massa and replaces Joanne

with this man, a massive as his military

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commander and David's strength of

leadership is, is seen here in this

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passage, as he reunites the people

after this brief civil war has broken

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out, but that's kind of his return.

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Uh, back to Jerusalem there

where Absalom had been, and

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he had fled and now he's back.

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And so David takes his place again.

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Uh, verses 16 through 39, then we see

some of David's magnanimous mercy.

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As he issued pardons to some of the

chief offenders, including even shimmy

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I who had thrown rocks at him and

cursed him as he left a reus alum.

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Awesome.

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Um, and this is the text where we seen

the Fitbit chef come forward and reveals

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their to David, or at least claims that

Zeba had deceived him, left him behind.

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And then slandered him to

David and David's response.

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There was to order that the land

should be divided, but Mephibosheth's

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says, Hey, look, I'm just happy.

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You're back.

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And that again is what leads us to, to

conclude that we think that Mafibisha.

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was probably the truth teller.

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Uh, in, in this conflict rather than Zeba.

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Um, and then in verses 31 through 39,

David identifies a, uh, individual by the

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name of Barilla, which I thought was, was.

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Very close to the pasta, Barilla pasta.

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Yeah, anyways.

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The LA bar?

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No.

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But Barilla, Barilla, Barilla.

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Yeah.

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Bart, Bart Barcelona.

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I read.

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Is there a Z?

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I did.

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I miss K.

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Maybe I'm looking at verse 39.

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What verse did you say this again?

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Yeah, the 31 through 39.

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I may, maybe I missed this bar.

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Zillah yeah, I miss the Z.

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So my bad, it doesn't have

anything to do with pasta, pasta.

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No.

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Which is a bummer.

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I did like a good pasta meat too, man.

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But it, uh, David, I notified him

and shows him honor as somebody who

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helped him when he fled from Absalom.

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So kind of a cool thing.

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We don't know much about this

guy, aside from that, but.

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Here he is honored in scripture

for what he is, has done.

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And then the finally the chapter

ends with the Israelites fighting.

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Over where David should reside in, perhaps

the earliest signs of some of the strain

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that would lead to the divided monarchy.

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You see some of the Northern tribes.

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The pitch and a fit a little

bit about Judah being the

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place of his residence and a.

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And so there's, there's some cracks in

the facade here that aren't going to

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fully emerge for another generation after

this, but they may be forming right now.

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So I can see my chapter 20, then

the division at the end of second

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CMO, 19 leads, a worthless man

named Sheba to attempt to accrue,

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to lure the Northern tribes away

from David and David dispatched.

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A massive remember he replaced Joanne with

a massive, so he just pass it dispatches.

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Uh, Massa along with Joe and Abishai

and the army to quell the rebellion

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before it could do more harm

than Absalom's had in a long way.

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Joanne.

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Uh, murder's a massive, so

massive is not going to be in

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charge for very long because Joe.

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Uh, gets jealous.

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And, uh, and here we see some of

the shady character of job as he

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rises up in, in murders and Masa and

effectively takes back his place as

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the commander of the King's army Sheba.

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Meanwhile, flees to a city where

David's forces following threatened

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to destroy it with seed works.

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And then a woman in the

city says, Hey, Hold on.

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Don't assure the city I'll

take care of him, cuts off his

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head, throws it over the law.

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And that ended Shebaz rebellion.

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Is Joe AB jealous or is it

just, you're being Joe at.

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That's my job.

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Uh, why David put him

there in the first place.

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Maybe it's a matter of saying,

Hey, let's try to wreck rectify

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the two warring sides here.

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Let's use a Masa since he was

the guy that they're used to now.

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And Joe, I was like, you know what?

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You played your role.

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You're dead now.

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Thank you for my job back.

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It's well, within job's

character, it seems to me.

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Magellan.

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Maybe not like he's not threatened by him.

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I was going to take care of

business on the dispatch.

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You, Hey, come here.

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Come here.

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Come here.

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Yeah.

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Uh, chapter 21, then

they give you a nights.

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Uh, show up and you remember the

giving that Ted had made the covenant

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with with Joshua after deceiving

him, they had put on the, the.

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The old clothing and the crack sandals

and everything else and the stale bread.

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And made it look like they

were coming from a far country.

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Uh, Joe Joshua didn't

seek the Lord's counsel.

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Joshua made this treaty with

them, and that was a bad thing.

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Well, during solves rain at some

point, and we don't have it.

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Laid out for us in scripture, but at

some point, Saul had transgressed this

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treaty by attacking the Gibeah nights.

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And now to rectify the situation.

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Uh, David agreed to turn

over seven of Saul's sons.

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Uh, because there was a famine

that God brought upon the people

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of Israel, because they had broken

their word to the giving nights.

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They'd broken their treaty.

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And so God was punishing the Israelites

for breaking a treaty with the people

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that originally got wanted exterminated.

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There there's a lot of different layers.

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At work here, but God's punishing

Israel for not being faithful to their

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word really is what it comes down to.

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So David says, what can we do?

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And they say, give seven assaults,

sons who, which he does, uh, sparing.

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Some of the offspring of, uh, of Jonathan.

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He doesn't give a Fitbit chef in this,

but he turns these sons over who then are

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subsequently hanged by the gimme nights.

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Uh, but then there's this one unique woman

and she's, it seems to be a faithful mom

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and a grieving mom who attended the, the

bodies in her grief and would not allow

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any of the wild animals to come upon them.

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Uh, while they hung there and after

hearing this, David wanted to honor her.

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And so he gathered the bones of

Saul and Jonathan and the seven

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and have had them properly buried.

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But this turned away God's

wrath from Israel and.

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I guess made things right between

Israel and that they give unites there.

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Okay.

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How is this?

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Just, this seems to me like a.

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This seems awful.

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That seems like a terrible thing.

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How is it possible that

SOLs sons grandsons.

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Could or should suffer on

behalf of what Saul does.

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We're encountering this concept yet again.

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Yeah, I think it's important because.

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I think it's important to note.

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God never says to do this.

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He, I guess he acknowledges it by saying,

okay, blood guilt has been satisfied.

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But is this what God wanted is this

is human sacrifice essentially.

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Is that, what is that what God wanted

from the house of Saul, do you think?

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Yeah, no, I don't.

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I don't think we can get there.

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I mean, God himself says he does not

delight in the death of the wicked even.

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And so.

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In in.

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Yeah, I don't think this is a, uh,

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Commendation from data or commandment

from God to say, this is, this is good.

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You should do this.

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You were talking, we were talking,

we were wrestling back and forth, I

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think offline about corporate guilt.

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And, um, I think that's

probably fits the bill here.

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As far as this, this situation

is, is concerned that

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there's the corporate guilt.

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That is a sad.

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Uh, attached to a people.

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Um, not in the same way that has

been bandied about in, in culture

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and everything else like that.

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But here that the guilt for breaking and

transgressing God's law that is passed

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down from generation to generation, uh,

That, that the sins of the father will

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be visited on the next generation, the

generation after the generation after.

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And so I think we see a little

bit of that in this instance.

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True.

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That may be.

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I just want this.

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This is a hard section and in part,

because we're trying to wrestle with okay.

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Th this is a different

mindset than ours today.

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And on top of that, this

is something that got it.

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Doesn't commend, but certainly accepts.

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He does remove the wrath from the house

of Saul and consequently the house of

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Israel as a whole, because of what happens

here, but still, I just want to point out.

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And the king David, he doesn't

go to God and say, God, what

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should we do about this?

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He goes to the Gibeah nights and they

say, we'll give a seven and the sons.

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And I'm sure the number

seven is significant.

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Complete full whole, that whole thing.

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And then, and then God turns

it away, but notice God doesn't

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turn, turn away his wrath until

they're removed from being hanged.

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So I wonder if there's something

there that gives us an indication

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that maybe God wasn't happy with this.

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And the fact that the shame had been

taken down or removed was something

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that he did approve of and say,

that's, that's not what I wanted,

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but let, let's just move on here.

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I don't know.

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Uh, it's the Dex doesn't tell us

one way or the other, but I suspect

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there's more than meets the eye.

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Yep.

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When the rest of the chapter war breaks

out again with the Philistines, a

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constant thorn in the side of David

and after David who was almost killed

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in battle, the men basically say,

Hey, David, we're going to go ahead

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and retire you from the battlefield.

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Uh, we want you to stay back here and

no longer go out and fight with us.

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Uh, one quick note in 21, 19,

this is a different Goliath.

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This is not the same Goliath.

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This is not a textual error

or anything else like that.

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This is somebody else that was

named Goliath that shows up here in

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21, 19, uh, with the Philistines.

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How do you know that?

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Because David David killed

Goliath a long time ago.

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I okay.

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So there's the cross-reference

first, first Chronicles,:

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I was, I was thinking as I read it.

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Okay.

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This must.

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I thought it was a scribal error,

you know, maybe an emendation, an

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accidental emendation, perhaps.

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Where the reference is to Goliath brother

or, uh, let's see here versus verse 19.

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And there was again, war with

the Philistines at gob and L L

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Hannon, the son of JaRay origin.

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The Bethlehemite struck down.

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Uh, Lee, I forget the guy's name in

first Chronicles,:

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the brother of Goliath to get EIT.

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The Shafter who's being was

like a spear of a or whatever.

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So I think, I think the cross-reference

gives me pause to say, I wonder if

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this is a Scrabble or because let

me just pull up first Chronicles.

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Uh, 2015, let me quote

it to you real quick.

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Nope.

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That's not it.

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That's not it at all.

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First Chronicles, I put 2015,

but that's not, that's clearly

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not the cross reference.

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Uh, first Chronicles 25, 25.

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That makes more sense.

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Because it's.

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It doesn't have.

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Okay.

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And there was again, war

with the Philistines and L

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Henan the son of John Jr.

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Struck down LaMi, the brother of

Goliath, the get tight, the shaft of

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whose spear was like a Weaver's beam.

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So I think those are parallel verses,

but they say different things.

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And I think the verse in first Chronicles

is probably the one that we should

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take and say, that makes more sense.

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So this must be a scribal error.

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That was my, that was my understanding.

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Anyhow.

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Yeah.

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There's there's uh, there's

multiple views on it.

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That's one.

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There's also, um, the view, like

I suggested that Goliath was a

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common name, especially among

Philistia, which is another.

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Uh, another suggestion, even as that

Goliath came to be a, a pseudonym

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for just a giant in general.

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Okay.

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And that's true today, right?

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Somebody was a Goliath and you

go, oh man, he's a, he's a giant.

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Um, and so that, that that's possible

as well, but any of those are valid

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solutions that wouldn't undermine

the authority of scripture here.

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And then, so.

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Why'd you bring your Bibles tune

in tomorrow and we got more songs

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coming at you and we will be back

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