In this episode, Perrin sits down with Carolien Hoek, a Dutch wildlife photographer and travel writer who has spent the better part of a decade chasing birds across six continents, from photography hides in Belgium and the Netherlands to the rainforests of Ecuador and the mountains of northern India.

Carolien talks about how a bored afternoon in a photography hide with her husband's spare camera started an obsession she never saw coming, why she thinks of herself as a collector first and a photographer second, and the challenges of sitting in a hide for 14 hours waiting for the right bird to show up.

She gets into the difference between a birder's checklist and a photographer's standard, why she will never photograph a bird sitting on a feeder, and how writing detailed travel journals for every trip she takes has become just as important to her as the images she brings home.

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