In this episode, Mario Sikora, TJ Dawe and TJ Ingrassia close out their series on the Marvel Cinematic Universe by discussing the two films, “Thor: Ragnarok” and “Avengers: Endgame.” Through the title character, Thor, the three hosts explore the hero’s journey and power through Enneagram Type Eight. They discuss why they think “Thor: Ragnarok” is a Type Eight film made through a Type Seven lens, and compare it to the final movie in the Avengers saga (thus far), “Avengers: Endgame” that is about trauma and healing.
“The whole film is just basically this giant question for Thor of like ‘Where is my power? How do I have my power? What happened to my power? How do I get my power back? My sister wants the power. Just power.’” - TJ Ingrassia [07:59]
“The lesson for Eights is you can be more powerful by recognizing your limitations and turning responsibility over or empowering other people who can then go on and be more powerful.” - Mario Sikora [26:55]
“This is about the fact that some aspect of us is still wounded by something that happened at some point and that this can continue to influence us or even control us our entire lives. And part of the work of studying the Enneagram, part of the work of just being a conscious adult is finding a way to make peace with these parts of ourselves.” - TJ Dawe [50:05]
TIMESTAMPS
[00:01] Intro
[00:43] This week’s movies
[01:52] Chris Hemsworth as Thor
[04:31] “Thor: Ragnarok”
[07:19] Type Eight made by a Seven-ish lens
[14:45] Almost felt like two different movies
[18:38] Hela as Enneagram Type Eight
[21:46] The interplay between Thor and Hela as Type Eights
[28:10] Taika Waititi as Korg
[30:12] “Immigrant Song” by Led Zeppelin
[34:21] “Avengers: Endgame”
[43:35] Blending of storytelling forms
[46:41] Characters with feelings and interlives
[51:09] The closure at the end of the film
[54:20] Themes of Eight in the film
[59:28] A message to the One
[1:00:07] The symbolic residence of Bruce Banner integrating The Hulk
[1:06:47] The father/son relationship
[1:09:39] Final thoughts on the Marvel Cinematic Universe
[1:16:31] Outro
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