In today’s episode, Pauline shares her powerful story of surrender, gratitude, intuition, and trusting the quiet nudges of spirit. She learned how challenges can reveal possibilities we may not otherwise see and how listening to our inner knowing can guide us toward greater alignment and purpose. Pauline reminds us that spirit doesn’t always remove the challenge but can reveal the purpose within it. When we let go of fear, resistance, and the need to have everything figured out, we create space to step into who we are truly meant to become.

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Pauline Victoria is an Inspirational Thought Leader, Speaker, and Founder of One Leg Up Productions, empowering people to see beyond limitations and step boldly into their greatness. Born without arms and legs, she is a powerful example of resilience, possibility, and living with purpose.

Pauline helps impact-driven entrepreneurs, speakers, and messengers build clarity, confidence, and visibility to amplify their voice and create meaningful impact through her signature VISTA framework. She is the host of The Small Victories Podcast, blending mindset, inspiration, and practical business strategy to inspire action and help others turn their message into meaningful influence.

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Rev. DeeAnne ‘Rose Hope’ Riendeau B.Msc, HADM, PIDP, NLP is a thought leader in spiritual and business development whose mission is to elevate how we think and live. Experiencing a life of chronic illness, and 2 near death experiences, DeeAnne rebounded with 20 years of health education and a diverse health career.

She is known as the modern-day Willy Wonka for giving away her company Your Holistic Earth, which is the first holistic health care system of its kind. She is currently the owner of Rose Hope International, in which she helps those who are seeking more joy, love, freedom, and a deeper meaning in life using your soul’s library also known as the Akashic Records.

She has spoken at Harvard University, appeared on Shaw TV, Global Television, and CTV and has been recognized as a visionary and business leader having been nominated for numerous awards including Alberta Business of Distinction. Along with being an entrepreneur, DeeAnne is a mom of 2 bright kids, publisher, popular speaker and international bestselling author who uses her heart and her head to guide others to create their best life.

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Rev. Rose Hope: I'm especially excited about our guest today because she is a breathing inspiration. Her very presence moves something inside of of us, and so I had the pleasure of being on her podcast, and was so excited when she said yes to being on my podcast as well. She has an incredible life story and is an absolutely phenomenal human being who wants to help inspire the world. So let me share a little bit more about her and who she is. Pauline Victoria is an inspirational thought leader, a speaker, and founder of One Leg Up Productions, who empowers people to see beyond limitations and step boldly into their greatness. Born without arms and legs, her life is a powerful example of resilience, possibility, and living with purpose. Through her signature VISTA Framework, Pauline helps impact-driven entrepreneurs, speakers, and messengers gain the clarity, confidence, and visibility needed to amplify their voice and create meaningful impact. She's the host of The Small Victories Podcast, where she blends mindset, inspiration, and practical business strategy. With her no excuses mindset and ability to inspire action, Pauline equips others to show up fully, embrace their potential, and turn their message into meaningful influence.

Hello! Hello! Welcome back, everyone! Oh my goodness, I am so freaking excited about our guest today. I had the privilege of being on her podcast months ago, and I just fell in love with this woman, her spirit, her soul, the tenacity that she has, the resilience she has, and so it is a privilege and honor to welcome lovely Pauline to the stage today. Welcome! Welcome! Hi, Anne. I'm so happy that you're here, and I'm so grateful that we were able to find our way to each other. You know, you have a really compelling story to me because I think that, at least in my life, it was very easy to fall into kind of a victim of circumstances. You know, things would go sideways, and it's like we get into the pity party. And even when things were looking good, you know, for me as a child, I still felt really sorry for myself because I was sick often, and so I felt this, you know, this undeniable sense that, you know, I wasn't enough, and that, you know, I had to work extra hard, more than anybody else, you know, to prove my worth here. So, I am so excited to dive into your story, for you to share with everybody what your situation is and what you went through. Would you would you kindly share that backstory with all of us?

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for the opportunity for being able to share my story. I feel like often times we get stuck in like our story, our, you know, like what you just said, everything you said was just resonated with me, our victimhood, and when we can see our story, a story that's beyond ourselves, that we share with other people, it just puts things into perspective in a different way. And so for context, and this is I I I make a clear distinction for people, this is not my content of my life, but it is the context, it's the backdrop of of everything I've lived through. And I don't know if people are listening to this or watching it. Even if you're watching it, it's really hard to tell on Zoom these days. You can hide a lot, but I was born without arms and legs. So, I have a unique perspective. I think from an early earlier age than most people, I had to learn a lot of lessons and deal with a lot of big emotions. And, you know, it's interesting that we're having this conversation, and and it's sometimes I feel like we feel like we dealt with the emotions in the past, and then they creep up once in a while, and you're like, What? I thought I dealt with this. Yeah. Like, where are you coming from? And so sometimes it cycles, and I just want- I just say that because I want to give people, let people know that they have grace with themselves, because from the outside, people will look at me and they're like, Oh, you're so you're so inspiring and well-adjusted, and all the things. And it's like, no, we all have our ups and downs. It is a roller coaster, but I feel like some of the things that I have mastered have been that resilience piece, the bouncing back. So when it does rear its ugly head, whatever it is- self-doubt, imposter syndrome, negative self-talk, it it like it's natural, and but it doesn't, you don't have to stay there.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that reminder you gave us around the grace piece, to give ourselves grace. Like, it also is okay sometimes to feel sorry for yourself, you know? Can we give ourselves a minute to just be like, Oh, man, this does really suck. And also have an awareness that we don't want to stay in that space. But I look at you, and you-you just spoke with such humility to me because, yeah, I think it's a really big deal that you function in this world with no arms and no legs. Like, that to me is like holy fuck! It's mind-blowing to me, because this is something I take for granted. I remember, you know, five years ago, I was in a bad bike accident. I broke my humerus, which I said, Ha, ha, universe, very funny. But I had my arm in a sling, and I only had one arm, so I was cooking meals with one arm, I was cleaning my house, I was tending to my children, I was working, all with one arm, and I, the struggle was real, you guys! Like, I found it so difficult, and I remember just counting down the days till I could have use of my arm again. You don't get that luxury, and I just Oh, my gosh! I'm in such awe and such reverence for you because you do handle it with such grace and such humility. And I'm curious to know, you know, what it was like for you, like, growing up and being in the body that you're in. You know, of course people, you know, would help you and support you, but I'm curious to know what kind of some of the emotional undercurrents of your childhood were in knowing that you were different, in knowing that you were never going to grow an arm back or what have you. Can you share a little bit about that?

Yeah, there is so much to share, and I could go in a lot of different directions, but for the purposes of our short time we have here together, I want to speak to the humility piece real quick. One Humility is one of those things that we feel like, Okay, I just gotta be smaller, or I gotta, like, I have to deny my gifts. They're not really Yes, I got to play it down. Don't stand in your brilliance, because that would be arrogant, or like, Who do you think you are? Yeah. And I remember someone saying, The way we practice humility is through gratitude. When we come from a place of gratitude, the humility comes natural, because we understand that everything, even the hard stuff, is a blessing. Yes. And so, growing up, especially when we're young and teenagers, was so, so very hard. But I was very lucky to have amazing parents. So, I was born to, my mom. She was an immigrant from the Philippines, 4'11, and my dad was Minnesota farm-bred 6'6 man. And they met in the Air Force and in California and they dated for six months, got married, and I was a honeymoon baby. So, I was born in, oh gosh, I'm going to age myself now, 1975, y'all. It's like that's a lot. I Yes, I'm in my 50s now. But it it's and I was the firstborn daughter and they were so excited to welcome me into their life, just as anyone usually who wants to have a family is, because I believe that as a mother myself, it's not just a human life that's born, it's potential, it's possibility, it's hope for the world that's born as well. And even the doctors, through all the tests, showed that I was perfectly normal. And when I came out, it was quite the surprise for everyone. And my mom back in the 70s, when the mother went through a C-section, which is the way I was brought into the world, they were made unconscious, so she had no idea this was going on. So my father was the first to know, and from there, he wanted to be the messenger. Like I've been the messenger of hard news, and it is so

hard. And to be able to tell a mom that their baby girl doesn't have 10 toes and 10 fingers, that's got to be a hard place to be to not only give the message, but then from my mom's perspective to receive the message. And so my dad told her, and she only responded with four words. And those four words were, Thy will be done. And yeah, yeah.

Rev. Rose Hope: Can we pause there? Because I just had chills, and I'm feeling a lot of emotion, you know, around this experience. You know, I I imagine when I had my babies, and I thankfully was fully conscious and fully present, I had no drugs or anything during my deliveries, and there was something very precious about receiving that baby. And I feel like I would have responded the exact same way as your mom. Mm-hmm. Like, how beautiful is that, though? That she was just like, and so it is, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the it's an illustration of complete surrender to

Rev. Rose Hope: Totally.

the circumstances beyond our control.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And they didn't ask why. They didn't focus on, What did we do wrong? And even though the doctors were very logical and rational with my parents, talking to them about how they were so unprepared to raise a child with such a severe disability, my parents chose to ignore the rationality. And I think when we're feeling called to a bigger purpose, logic and rationality go out the window. Completely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, when when spirit calls, spirit calls, and we oftentimes don't even have a choice in the matter, you know? It's just It's almost like this is the path. And yeah, it's going to be hard, and yeah, it's going to have these challenges, but this is the path. And I love that your parents knew enough to do that.

Yeah, absolutely. And so they decided to take me home, and they raised me with this beautiful combination of tough but nurturing love. Or I should say nurturing but tough love. And what I mean by that is that they loved on me. They, you know, fully accepted me, and they nurtured and all the things that a good parent does for their child. But they also left space for me to be able to figure out what I was capable of. And the story they tell me to help illustrate what this looks like is I was about 18, no, maybe a little over 12 months old, so a little over a year. And I, by this time, they knew my fusses, right? And they knew what I wanted by by my cry. And I wanted to sit up. I was playing on the floor, laying down, and I wanted to sit up. And so my mom comes forward to help me sit up, and my dad grabs her arm and says, Hold on. Let's Let's see what she can do. And they, I as a little toddler, I was probably like, You're just sitting there, like help me up. And apparently I that turned into frustration and anger and a temper tantrum that I could throw as as big as a kid without arms and legs could throw. And they just sat there. And you know as a mom that it's so hard to sit back and watch your child struggle, like really struggle. It is. Hardest things, yeah. Yes. But eventually I rolled over to a wall and I used the wall and my head to inch my way up the wall and to sit myself up for the first time. And the gift wasn't sitting. The gift was the space to get messy and frustrated and be okay knowing that I can still take care of myself and be capable. \

Rev. Rose Hope: You could figure it out. That's so empowering. I love that story so much because you're right. As as parents, and even as witnesses of others, it's hard to watch somebody go through the struggles. Like we quickly want to like, Reach out a hand, let me help you. But sometimes that that help is a hindrance, right? If we're not empowering them to figure it out on their own. Yeah. And so that absolutely is a gift, because look at you now. I mean, you you've had babies, and you have a business and a podcast and all the things. And so, yeah, what a beautiful, beautiful gift.

Yeah, and I so, I know, like as an entrepreneur, we want it to just go smoothly. We want it to be perfect, but it's gonna be messy. But I believe that it's in the messy that our greatness is discovered. Greatness doesn't happen after the result is achieved. It it happens when you're when you're actually faced with the hard stuff.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, it sure is. And I think we do forget that, right? You know, we see these people that on the outside have all this success, and we forget the journey that they went through to get there, which was a messy journey, more than likely. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's incredible. So, you know, obviously, you know, you had a, you know, loving parents that loved you unconditionally, and I think, you know, I think that's really special because there's a lot of children who don't even know what that means. But I also want to, you know, move this along the timeline to like becoming a young adult. And I could only imagine like there would be questions like, Well, what are you gonna do for a living, and what what's your life gonna look like? Can you share with us just a little bit of a peek of like what that looked like for you when you kind of started coming into adulthood?

Yeah. You know, at some point, I had to do what my parents did with myself. Like I had to put myself in uncomfortable situations where I didn't have it figured out, and be okay with getting messy. And I think, I mean, if we, if you're listening to this, and you survived puberty and young adulthood, you know, there's it's not always so pretty, and it was definitely not pretty for me. I felt I really felt like I wasn't I didn't belong in the world. Yeah. And, so my mom had her surrender moment when I was born, and I had my surrender moment when I was about 15 years old. And I remember I was sitting in church, and I was just so angry. Like, why? Why me? Out of the billions of people in the world, you don't make mistakes, but you made me. And the message I got back as I'm doing the ugly cry in church was, There's a reason. Your pain is not in vain. Just hold on.

Rev. Rose Hope: Your pain is not in vain. I just want to repeat that because I think so often we feel like our pain is for nothing. Mhm. And, yeah, it's just I really yeah, I really want to hear that and our audience to hear that. So anyone who's in pain right now, what a beautiful reminder from Pauline, right? That our pain is never in vain. So I just, yeah, wanted to just sit there for a sec. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely.

And in that moment, I didn't know for what purpose it was, but I didn't need to know. I just needed to know that there was a purpose. Ah. Right. And I think a lot of times we're going through life and we we're wondering like, why? Why is this happening? And sometimes we we don't get the answer of why, but just sitting with the idea of like, but there is a reason. Yeah. And you just have to trust the process and trust spirit and, you know, everything's working together for good is what I believe.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. I, you know, I say this often. God is the best logistics coordinator. We just don't know it, you know? Yes, right. And it's like even though, it's like, okay, it hasn't been revealed to me why this is happening or or what the purpose is, as long as we know that there is a bigger reason, a bigger purpose, right? And I think if we can hold on to that, that helps us to move through it in such a beautiful way. And Yes.

And so, as I start as I continued, because I was about 15 years old, as I continued starting to get a little bit older, and and I think that surrender moment and that conversation with God helped me pay attention in a different way,

Rev. Rose Hope: Hmm.

right? So if I knew there was a purpose, then I'm like, okay, so what is it? And I did notice that I made an impact on people. I did notice that I could make grown men cry. I did notice that when people saw me, whether it was staring or crying or praying or, you know, or saying how amazing I am, I did something to them. And so, unfortunately, I knew I made the impact, but I didn't want to own it. And so when I went to college, I studied communication, broadcast journalism, because I'm like, oh, I could be like on TV and do my thing like everybody else, uh-huh, because I think at that age you're still wanting to be like everybody else. Yes. People can be inspired by me, and they can have whatever feeling they have about me, and I can impact them without actually having to impact them, like intentionally. Yes, correct. Yeah, so how many times have we like recognized our purpose, but then we try to run away from it? So it's like, okay, I have a purpose.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah. We're on a running. I was running hard from this spiritual work because heaven forbid someone think I'm a little bit woo-woo or crazy. Are you kidding me? I came from this very, you know, health-based, science-based background, and now I'm talking about, you know, magic and energy. And yeah, what would I have to face then? Heaven forbid.

Yeah, yeah, and I think it's not necessarily even like the what we're going to have to do. It's like who are we going to have to become in order to step into what we're being called to step into. Ooh, okay, that was really good. It's you said it's not Can you say that again for me? Yeah, it's not necessarily what we have to do that we're afraid of. It's who do we have to become in order to step into what we're called to do.

Rev. Rose Hope: Thank you, because I think there's potency in that. Who do I have to become to step into my most divine path? And I think that's a brilliant question rather than, What are all the things that I have to get done on the action list? It's, Who do I have to be? And you said something else. You know, you talked about the impact that you have, and it wasn't so much that you had to do anything, but you just had to be. That's what's so brilliant. You know, even like you said, someone would just see you and you would have impact. I mean, I think about the first time I hopped on the call with you, and I was like, This woman is writing with a pen with her like under her armpit, like with her mouth! Like, I was just so in awe, and it impacted me. And all you were doing was being there, you know, you know, and of course all the other things we discussed and stuff had an impact too, but even just your presence. And I've had to remind a few of my clients of that because they're like, No, I should be doing more, and I should be doing this, and I should be doing this. And I said, Are you a human doing or a human being, right? And I know people have heard that before, but yet we don't really let ourselves soak that in, what it means to just be here. Because if I am here with that love, with that energy, that's already having an impact, right?

Yes.

Rev. Rose Hope: I mean, you and I could sit here in silence and just let our listeners sit in silence, I bet you it would still have impact. Yes. You know, we're not going to do that, but my point being is that we forget how much we can shift and transform others by simply being. Mm.

Yeah. Yes, and you said something in the beginning about feeling like we have to prove our value or prove our worth. And up until recently, so I love the timing. It's never never coincidence, right? Everything's being like orchestrated by the logistical master, like you said.

Rev. Rose Hope: Indeed.

And I gave a talk at the, you know, about a month ago, and it created an identity upheaval,

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh!

because after the talk, and I've I've given I've spoken at different audiences, but you know, sometimes things don't land because you're just not ready to see them. But the feedback I received after the talk, it landed differently.

Rev. Rose Hope: Okay.

And I had this whole identity upheaval because I have always come from the idea that because I look less than, I need to prove to you I'm just as good, if not better.

WSC Intro/Outro: Wow.

And so I've had to I've always like worked harder. Of course, it's going to take me 10 times more effort to do what you do, right? So if we wanted to cook a meal, I better start like 8 hours ahead of time because it might take me 8 hours.

Rev. Rose Hope: Not I still am trying to wrap my head around how you do that, which maybe we'll talk about in a minute, but like wow. Yeah.

Well, some things you just let go of. I'm like is a is cooking a meal really worth the effort or can I use my effort elsewhere, right? So Yeah,

Rev. Rose Hope: that's fair. You prioritize differently, I guess. Yeah.

Yes. Yes. Yes. And we all have to, right? Like where do we put our energy to? Yeah. And and I think sometimes we get so focused on like, Well, I have to do this, and it has to look like this, but, eh, does it? So anyway, that's a sidebar. But I think that Try to re- remember what like

Rev. Rose Hope: Identity crisis in the feedback that you got.

Yes. And so when that identity upheaval was starting to happen, it was interesting how the right people, supports, and resources started showing up to help me through that identity upheaval, because if you've ever been through that, it's not easy. It's hard. It you make It makes you question everything. And the moment I shifted from I'm someone that has to come into a space and prove my value to I'm someone that shifts atmospheres. I change spaces and hearts, and I'm coming from that. I don't have to prove it, it just is. Mm-hmm. Even what I remembered in past conversations shifted.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow!

So the identity piece I think is so very important, especially if we're up to bigger things in the world.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes. I love this conversation so much because I also, like I was an overachiever, right? After my first near death, I thought I had to prove to God that I was worthy of staying here, right? And so I spent my whole life proving my worth, and it still shows up for me, too. But I love this idea of perhaps letting go of the identity that I need to prove my worth to anybody, right? And that's been one of the things that I've been working on. What do you do to help shift that? Like, what do you do as you move through that identity shift of like, oh wait, I am enough just as I am, right? Was there anything that you used as a tool, or anything that really landed for you in terms of like, oh wait a sec, like I do get to just show up, and that's enough?

Mhm. I think it quieted this striving energy that I had in me. Like, you know, as entrepreneurs, I feel like we're constantly feeling like, oh, I'm not where I should be, or look at that person over there, they're so much further ahead, and I need to get busy with with the busyness of business. You know, that whole idea, like if you're busy

Rev. Rose Hope: Why do we even call it busyness? Why do we call it business, right? I I don't get that. We need to come up with a new name, right? Yeah. Livelihoods.

Yes, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And business feels so surface and superficial, really, honestly. It's like It's like, no, this is a life calling for for many of us, I think, who can relate to this conversation. Exactly. Yeah,

Rev. Rose Hope: exactly. And so for you, like as you kind of let go of that, it was almost just like that striving fell away. And what I would say to that is like that energetic difference between being driven and drawn, right? Like before you were driven, and now you just let yourself be led. Yeah. And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying being driven is bad. We do all need a little bit of that if we want to move things forward to a certain degree, but it's about a balance, right? And for me, I was like drive, drive, drive, push, push, push, push, push, push, push until I'm wiped out and I can't do anything at all. Yeah. And now I'm letting myself be gently led, you know. So I'm not getting as overwhelmed. I'm not working as many hours, you know, all of those things. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think it changes what you drive. Like I I mean, the reality of it is we still have to have a will and we still have to participate in the It's the unfolding. Yeah, yes, absolutely. But it's what am I driving, right? Am I driving like, oh my god, I have to create, you know, 10 posts to come out every day and like, oh, I got to make sure I'm I'm everywhere in every part of every group and all the things, and it just like it really Does it Is Is that really what's moving the needle? And that's what I say to a lot of my clients that I work with in my Visibility Mastermind is: what's really going to move the needle? you know? So,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah.

I don't think when we're called to do something, it like, yes, we have to be determined and disciplined, but I don't feel like it's supposed to be like hard work.

Rev. Rose Hope: Agreed. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that, and I think that's actually the magic of letting ourselves be drawn. Because when we listen to that pull, that call, everything we need is supplied to us. So of course it's easier. Of course it's not as overwhelming. If we are coming from that place of drive that's based on ego of like, I have to do this, everyone else is doing it, or I have to make it look like I'm successful, or whatever that is, then what's happening is we're actually doing ourselves a disservice, because that's when all the difficulty and the resistance and all those other pieces come into the mess, and now it is hard, right? Yes. And, you know, you're talking about moving the dial. Sometimes moving the dial means taking a step back. I know for me, sometimes it has been like, Oh, wait a second. I think I'm I'm out of alignment. I'll just take a step back, and then, voilà, the dial moves and something lands and clicks, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. And I notice that when an idea comes to me and it's coming from something bigger than me, I can ask the questions like, Okay, so how-- what does this look like? And I'll get a download of something. Yes. You know, so it it-- the ideas and the how part comes easy. Yeah. It feels like like magic.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, it is like magic when we are in that place of really listening to that pull, to that call, which is exactly why we did this podcast, of course, when Spirit Calls, and I am so grateful that you listen to the call of spirit in your life, that you continue to listen to it. So, Pauline, now you get to help other people. I know you do a lot of speaking, you have your podcast. Can you share a little bit about what things look like now, and if someone was like, Oh my gosh, I need Pauline on my podcast, or I want to hire Pauline, how can they get ahold of you?

Yeah, so I'll I'll make sure you have all the information for your show notes. But I have a website called onelegupproductions.com. So I do have a little bit of a leg. It's not really a normal leg. I I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but it kind of looks like a turkey leg, you know, at the Renaissance Fair and people are like holding the turkey legs and it's kind of like that, but and I remember my so I was filming doing some filming with a friend of mine who also lost her leg from cancer, due to cancer when she was 13. And so my husband we were doing some filming and my husband's like comes home. He's like, What is this 1 Leg Up Productions? And I'm like, I'm going to use that one day. And it's like a play on words and so when people Yeah. When people see it and they know me, they're like, Oh, you're not that serious about your, you know. So

Rev. Rose Hope: I think that's great. Humor is one of the best ways for us to move the move the dial, so to speak, and shift our energy. So I love that you've done that. Yeah.

Yeah. So everything can be found on onelegupproductions.com, that would probably be the easiest. I do have that book, Broken Body, Whole Spirit, on Amazon if people

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes. Okay, Broken Body, Whole Spirit on Amazon. Okay, and it's by Pauline Victoria?

By Pauline Victoria. Yeah.

Rev. Rose Hope: Beautiful. So we can we will put that link in the show notes as well for our audience if anyone feels compelled. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I know it it feels like we can we can feel broken. We can feel like we're in broken circumstances. Things didn't go as planned, but hopefully my book will be able to encourage you and show you a pathway to reclaim your wholeness and remember it. It's not gone. Like you you were never broken. Like I did not come broken. God did not make a mistake when He made me. And you know, even if it wasn't you know there there could be a lot of theories spiritually around my situation of being born this way, but you know, even if it was not meant for good, it is being used for good because I am answering the call. And you know, that's often our the things that we feel like we're cursed with,

Rev. Rose Hope: Right?

really are the blessing, and when we answer the call, we can see beyond the hard.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes. See beyond the hard. So I have one more burning question, because I know some of our audience is probably sitting there and they're like, Okay, wait. She's married, she has a kid, like she has a pretty normal life. Would you say your life is pretty normal? Like are there any things that you like you absolutely cannot do? Or like can you do most stuff?

You know, I think this is a misconception I think when people meet me and I'm in an environment that supports me, I'm like, yeah, I'm really independent, I'm capable, I'm free, and that is true to an extent. Yeah. But the reality of it is like I can't really shower myself. It's I mean, I could dress myself, but that'd be really hard. And, you know, there there just certain things, like I'll never climb Mount Kilimanjaro, I mean. Right. But it's okay, you know, you let go of things, and the reality of it is, none of us can do it all. And it is having that humility from a place of gratitude in which others come alongside of us and we enroll them because they feel inspired and want to be part of the journey. And so, I'm very grateful for the family I was born into, my husband who I married and created another family, and Amazing. It's it really has unfolded way better than I could have ever imagined, and I feel like that's also part of the magic when we allow that surrender and that trust to go like it's beyond us. Yeah. Then it really turns out so much better than what we ever ever thought.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that. I think we're going to end right there, folks. Life can be better than you ever ever imagined. Thank you, Pauline, for being with us and sharing with us. Again, I just I look at you and I feel such a deep sense of awe, wonder, and reverence for you and what you've been able to do in in really taking this experience of your life and being able to share and inspire others. Thank you so much for the gift that you are.

Thank you. Thank you so much. I I hope this has been of value and, you know, just in in honor of my name, which is what my podcast is named after, Small Victory, you know, just just remember to celebrate the small victories. It'll put you in a place of gratitude. And from that place, and and I know you want to end this, but if you look up the origin of gratitude, it means communing with the divine. So, yes, so thank you. I'll leave you all in gratitude.

Rev. Rose Hope: Thank you, and for all the rest of you listening, thank you for listening, and I wish you well until next time on When Spirit Calls. Bye for now.

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