Today’s guest is Cale Nelson (K4CDN), he is best known for hosting the Ham Radio 360 and Modern Christian Men podcasts. He’s also the head-honcho at AFX Media Group where he and his team provide graphic, video, and audio production services.

Today we’ll discuss how he failed to pivot and the affect it had on his podcasting and his spiritual life. It’s quite an interesting story!

Follow Cale on Twitter and Instagram and be sure to let him know you heard him on the podcast!

Be on the lookout for Our Podcast from Cale and his wife Carla.