What does it actually look like to build a $500K+ photography business—step by step, phase by phase?

In this episode, I’m joined by Kylee Maughan, founder of Kylee Ann Studios, who breaks down the real evolution of her business over the past 15 years. From charging $35 sessions in college to building a multi-six-figure company with a team of photographers across multiple states, Kylee walks through the exact phases that got her there.

We talk about the messy beginnings, the rapid growth that comes from investing in education, the breaking point that forced her to rebuild her business with systems, and the pivotal moment she expanded beyond just herself by hiring associate photographers.

Kylee also shares how a major pivot during COVID—into product photography—became one of the most impactful decisions in her business, ultimately helping her scale past $500K while creating more freedom in her life.

If you’re in the early stages, feeling maxed out, or trying to figure out how to grow beyond just yourself, this episode will give you a clear picture of what each phase actually requires—and what it takes to move to the next level.

Key Takeaways:

Every phase of growth requires a different version of you. What works when you’re starting out won’t work when you’re scaling—and trying to hold onto old ways of operating is often what keeps photographers stuck.

Kylee’s story shows that sustainable growth doesn’t come from hustling harder. It comes from building systems, expanding your capacity through people, and being willing to pivot when the market changes.

The goal isn’t just to make more money—it’s to build a business that actually supports your life.

Connect with Kylee:

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Website: https://kyleeannphotography.com

Free Product Photography Class: https://kyleeannphotography.com/bp

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 ​hello and welcome back to another episode of the Take Your Shot podcast. Today I've got Kylie man on and she is such an impressive photographer and does so many different things, so you're gonna hear from her today. And Kylie, just to really kick things off, do you wanna just introduce yourself and tell everyone a little bit more about who you are and what you do?

Yeah, so my name is Kylie and like she said, and I live in a small town in northern Utah. I was raised in Washington, moved here for college, married a boy from this hometown and have stayed ever since. Um, so I started my business here in this very saturated Utah market. I've three kids and um, a team of photographers and two dogs, and it's just full chaos all the time over here.

I love that. And you know what? It wouldn't be of personal business if there wasn't, you know, the chaos behind the scenes. Right. So I love that now. Okay, Kylie, I think what's really cool and what you didn't say is you've built a half million dollar business and you've done that over the course of obviously your career.

And I think that that's so impressive. So I would love to just kind of hear a little bit more of just kind of like. How you've built your business and obviously you're really passionate about, about sustainability and you know, really making sure that you know things and systems work for you. So let's hear it.

I think it's really cool. So like, let's go back to like your early days, like where did you get started with all of this? Yeah. Okay. So in the very beginning I started like everybody else, and I think that's what's so. Cool is when you hear my story is like, you can probably see yourself in this because I am not anything special.

I didn't start with like anything big or any good skills, right? So I started with actually my husband, um, he was my fiance at the time. He sold his Xbox and bought me my first DSLR camera for Valentine's Day. And so, as you know, Xboxes are not that expensive. So my first deal, SLR, was, you know, a 300, $400 camera, but it was like this huge gift of sacrifice, , that he, he gave up his most valuable item to buy me my most valuable item.

And then I just got started. So I got started on auto mode. It was an Nikon D 7,000. It was before the mirrorless times for all the photographers get to start mirrorless. I'm jealous. Um, it was a, a crop sensor. It was a kit lens, it was messy. , So that's how I started. And then that kind of just got me like going.

I started taking, I was in college, so I started taking pictures of my friends and my family and people that lived around me. , I was charging $35 for sessions. , I shot my first wedding that summer for $200. On auto mode and I was able to buy back his Xbox that same summer. So that's just, that was the beginning.

It was seriously, like nothing glamorous. I used KSL and the classifieds. We didn't have Facebook marketplace or like Facebook groups back then. We didn't even have Instagram. , So it was just sloppy, messy, and amateur. That's how it started. Honestly, like most businesses do, right. I just appreciate your story and talking about that because I think so often people don't share or talk about those messy early days when like you don't know what's going on.

, For example, my first session I did, I was also in college kind of getting started, and my friend was engaged and I did her engagement photos. Uh, basically for the price of froyo. Like she just bought me froyo after, and we called it Good. Like, who doesn't love a good frozen yogurt? Yeah. So went from doing that to obviously making way more.

And so we all have our small and humble beginnings, but those are important and those are pivotal because so often people in those beginning stages compare themselves to someone who's been doing, you know, this for 10 years, thinking I could never do that. 10 years ago, they were probably behind where you are today with everything that people have access to now, you know?

Exactly, exactly. Yeah. So then the next, the next journey, part of the journey, I graduated college, I had my first baby, and I just felt , okay, I can't trust $35 an hour. 'cause the time away from my fam. Now I have a family. It's not just a broke college kid trying to earn money, you know? I have a, I have a kid at home.

I don't wanna be gone for all these hours. If I'm only making $35, I really need to either make this a hobby or make this a business and not try to do this in between thing. So I went full into the business and I, , invested in my first like conference. I went to a conference. In Las Vegas, WPPI, I upgraded my camera to a full frame.

I learned how to shoot on manual. I learned what marketing was. I learned what SEL was, and I went like all in really quickly, and I grew really quickly. I think the more I invested, the more I grew. So over the next two years, things took off for me. I started charging, instead of $35, it went up to three 50.

I, , started shooting real weddings, , at real prices. I started. , Using SEO and marketing to my advantage, and I was getting like 25 weddings a year with turning away multiple inquiries for , multiple dates throughout the year. And so I was just like, this is awesome. I'm gonna keep doing this. , For the first time in my business I had like goals.

Like I was trying to hit certain number goals and wedding goals, and I think by then. I had made like $50,000 that year or something like, so it was like year four or something, when it was like finally , this is real money. This can actually help pay the bills, um, kind of a thing. So that's, that was the next chapter.

I love that. And I think what's really cool is just how you were basically investing in your business. And I think that's a key point. As you're talking through the different phases of building this, right, like investing in your business, that really does help you.

Exponentially, you know, make more than if you just try to sit there figuring it out on your own. So I think that's huge, especially showing up too in a room where it's like, okay, you get to be surrounded by other businesses and like software systems, things like that. Like WPPI, obviously there's like a wealth of knowledge and education and systems and people there.

So I think that that's really, really cool. So yeah. Okay, let's hear about the next phase. Okay. Then this is where it starts getting exciting. So after. Investing in some of these conferences, I learned about educators. I learned about, you know, I started following educators. I didn't even know they existed.

She invited me to her table and I heard them talking about. You know, doing ads for the first time and I was like, oh, who are these people? So I started following them and that's what connected me into a whole new conference, chapter show at United and past galleries and all this stuff. So that really was when I really just like grew, grew, grew.

'cause I started learning from people outside of my town. I think for so long I was just looking at. People around me. And so when I started seeing like people that were like successful and growing and actually doing this as a business, that's when I started to flourish. So I invested in all these conferences, all this stuff.

It was taking off. It was working. I had my second baby and I was so overwhelmed because it was all working. The marketing they told me to do was , working, everything was working and I just had too much to do. So I posted for like an assistant to come just. Help around send out packages and help around my house and, just to help with overwhelm.

And she was a BFA student, a local BFA student at our college. She was studying photography. She, , was single and she just wanted to like, dedicate all of her extra hours to like learning from me and mentoring with me. And as she did that and helped me kind of put on my first workshop and my first retreat.

And me having her come along for weddings and stuff, her work started to look a lot like my work. And one day at one of my retreats, someone said, would you ever bring her on, on your team as like a photographer and like to work for you because like it, your work is starting to look similar, like she's always with you.

And I was like, Hey, that's actually a good idea. And in the back of my brain, I remembered that I had gone to an associate photography building class at WPPI. Like two years prior, I had no idea what associate photographers were. When I went to this class, I just ended up in this class for some reason and I had no intentions of ever building associate team.

After I left. This lady that I went to the class had actually retired from photography, so she no longer had a team or whatever, so I didn't have any example. I did not know anyone else in the industry that was doing associate team, but I went back to those notes. I still had 'em. Looked at 'em and I just was like, let's do this.

Your time is capped. , And so your money is capped. So when I was able to multiply my team, we were able to bring in more revenue. And obviously that wasn't all money in my pocket, you know, we're not paying a team. But it's when I realized like, oh, we can grow beyond just my schedule. Totally. And you know, I like what you just said there with like your capacity being limited to yourself.

There is this point where you're kind of tapped out and you've maybe already optimized all your systems. You've already, you know, I'll streamlined your workflows. And so then it really comes as point of you either have to charge more, which then sometimes prices you out or expand your time by hiring on team members or, you know, offloading and outsourcing tasks.

So that's. A huge and pivotal like phase for sure, like hiring and starting to build your team. So let's hear how did it grow from there? Yeah, so one big thing was that was nice is I could raise my prices that that point because then I wasn't getting out of the market because I still had my associate price that she could, you know, serve, uh, the demographic that I was leaving.

Um, so that really was helpful. Um, but it just, it took off people like. Loved the I idea of it because they got the style that I provided. They got the service, they got the turnaround time, they got everything, um, in, in both photographers. So it continued to grow. But also I did not have the systems in place.

Like if I take one more client or one more associate on my team, like I'm gonna die. Um, and so it was then when I really switched and turned into like CEO mode of like, I'm not just a photographer. I need to run this business. I need to learn systems. I need to like. You know, organize myself better. I need to invest in the CRMI need to, like, I had the marketing figured out, but I did not have the backend figured out at this point to, to the point where I, I could scale anymore.

So, um, rebuilt a little bit during that time. And then the next year I, I had my third baby and that's when I hired my second associate and I really took like a backseat and started like kind of more managing the team. Stepped back from weddings. And let them kind of run the, the photography show while I ran the business.

Um, and I, obviously, I was still shooting and stuff, but not at the capacity that I was before because I couldn't run a team and shoot full time and be a mom of three and be in postpartum. So that was the next kind of chapter. It was kind of messy for a little bit in the middle. I love that. And you know, I think too, like it's okay for the middle, messy part to happen.

I think those are the parts of the story where things really kind of like push you. And I liked what you were saying there too, of like, you couldn't be in postpartum, you couldn't be a mom, you couldn't be a photographer, you couldn't do all these things, right? So there's kind of this breaking point of what to do next.

So that's just like such a pivotal moment to have because it really does shape the foundation of kind of like where you go after this. So what happened after that? So then let's see the, the next, I had my baby, um, and I started stepping back from weddings. And, you know, I thought like, oh, income's gonna drop, you know, like I'm the higher price photographer, I'm the brand.

You know, things just being canceled, canceled, canceled. All these con like summer contracts being canceled. And I was like, oh my gosh, what we're gonna do? And I actually went into freeze mode for a whole month. Like, I was like, I don't know, I don't know what we're gonna do. Like, I think this is the end, like photography's a luxury.

What are we gonna do? I lost team members. Um, during that time, my husband quit his job right before COVID, so I was the breadwinner and I was just like, okay. We're gonna pivot because I can't quit because there's no money coming in. There's only money being reversed out, you know, at this point. So after about a month, I had kind of started product photography.

After about a month, I was like, you know what? E-commerce is huge right now because no one can shop in stores. No one can see stuff in person. I'm gonna reach out to the clients that I have and see if they wanna do, like, have me do shoots with my kids, flat lays all these different things. So I did. I just started emailing my brands.

So it was just this crazy pivotal. Pivot. And I was actually thinking today, I was talking about a business that's not a photography business. It's actually PTA. And it's funny that I'm even bringing this up, but, , PTA is struggling right now in our area where a lot of schools don't wanna do PTA. And this is not to disown PTA.

There is a point. And instead of. Pivoting or trying to make it work or whatever. They are trying to like hold onto everyone who has PTA and like force 'em to stay. And I was thinking that at any business, at any point you have two options. You like are desperate and you force your clients to stay and you're like, sorry, you can't get out of your contract.

You sign for a wedding contract. I don't care if you're having a wedding, you just need to stay with me. Or like, okay. You know, brides can't do weddings. What can we do during this time? I feel like every business I know that pivots when, when they can tell their customers are unhappy or, or there's a problem flourish, and everybody who stays the same or tries to desperately hold onto what they have fails.

And so I think that was a huge lesson in this moment of like. You never, I mean, we could have never predicted the pandemic that is still like out of a movie when you think back to that time and like the things that we were doing and like just all of it, but a lot of businesses didn't make it. But I think they could have with some pivoting.

I think that's so, so spot on. Especially with, just like, you know, times are changing and if you don't adapt, you kinda get left behind and so it's like mm-hmm. Especially in the creative space, like I think so often people are like, well, the old way of marketing, right? If I just post pretty photos, people will find me and hire me.

It's like, yeah, that worked in like the nineties and the early two thousands. Yeah. But now we're in a digital age where like people aren't just seeing one good photographer. Mm-hmm. They're seeing. Hundreds in like a day, you know, sometimes hours. I mean, really like people scroll endlessly, right? Yeah. And so really like you have to really figure out how to position yourself, how to stand out, how to really come, come up with the times and like be on track for everything.

Because at the end of the day, it's like things are changing. People are very much looking for the adaptable businesses. And now we're kind of in that. Phase right now, where like the market's changing, the type of clients are changing. We've got a whole new generation now entering the chat. Mm-hmm. We've got Gen Z now, so Yes.

Like, how are we adapting? So if you don't adapt, like that's huge. Yes. So, and we have ai, we have mirrorless, we have presets, all these things that make photography so much easier to get started than when we started. , And that's okay. What do you guys, what, like what's your skills that you have that. That can't be just picked up from a, you know, a mirrorless care.

You know, like there are things we have, it's, it photography, a photography business is so much more than the pho, the photographs, you know, like it's your service, your personality, your experience, and all those things. So that was like year nine. Um, for us, we're in year 15 now, and it's kind of just the same thing.

Like we've had like. Setbacks and, and, and things every now and again, but, uh, also just tons of growth. We've just continued to grow year after year with the same model. Uh, I have six photographers in three different states, four different counties. We have an editor on our team and a VA that helps with like the booking and the contracts and all that stuff.

I feel like at this point in my business, I am more free as like a human being, like to just like. Be at PTA and take my kids on a vacation and read 70 books a year and all that stuff, even though my business has scaled to like, you know, over $600,000, um, it doesn't like, it's, it's not tied to me hustling.

And I think that is like my bigger success than the number is that I've built a business that's sustainable and that runs without me having to like, be glued to my camera or to my computer. All year long. I think that that's honestly one of the coolest things you can be saying 15 years into your business, right?

Like what other goals really matter when? If you have a ton of your, if you have a ton of money in your bank account, that doesn't. I'd necessarily do anything for you if you're miserable, right? Mm-hmm. But here's a clear example of you really just crushing it and getting messy, being willing to try things and you know, offload, take risks and hire people.

So, I mean, huge kudos to you for really just like getting after it. Now for people who are listening and they're like, man, like, okay, I resonate with a lot of the messy, but I still don't feel clarity on how I can do this for myself. What advice would you have? Like do you have any frameworks or lessons or just like mindset shifts that you find really helpful just to kind of help people get unstuck in their own potential?

Yeah, the first thing is definitely that you cannot do it alone. And I think there, there are some risks that come with that, and there are some pros and cons, you know, and. When I say I have a $600,000 business, that is not money in my pocket. Obviously. I have a whole team I'm paying for. I'm having their whole, their salaries, their bonuses.

I'm paying for them to go to conferences. I'm paying for trainings, I'm paying, you know, I'm paying for a lot of things. And so that first mindset shift of like. To make money, I have to spend money. Like you do have to hire people. You do have to share the wealth, you know, in order to grow past your capacity.

There is that little section where you're sharing some of that wealth. , And obviously it pays off in the end, but in that beginning it's like, oh, this is a cut out of my paycheck. You know, and you have to kinda get through that. Mindset and that period of time so that you can open up your calendar to fill it with more of those money making situations.

Um, so that's the first thing. The second thing is. , You have to have systems in place if you want to scale your business. It has to be something that's scalable and to be scalable, you have to, everything has to be the same. Every, every experience you have with the client. The way you shoot a session, the order in which you sort , not to like the exact, you know, shop, but like a flow, the same flow with each client.

Um. Um, both virtually and in person. , The same, editing the same. So if you're like, I do wanna have this eventually start getting your systems in order now, how you respond to clients saving templates, um, the presets that you're using, all that kind of stuff. Because once you have a, a framework that can be repeated by someone that's not you, that's when you can really grow beyond yourself in a, in a sustainable way that won't and land you in the ER like it did me.

A lot lower, but like also the deliverables were a lot lower because people did not have receptions. They did not have big weddings. It was like more of like a backyard COVID package. And , we sold that so fast 'cause we pivoted fast where a lot of people were like, no, you have to book our six hour. And it's like, there was no six hour, you know?

And so you have to be okay with, uh, things not going the way you want them to go, um, or the way you expect them to go. And being able to pivot and see. Like changes in your industry, in your area, and making adjustments for those. That's seriously such great advice and I love that so much because honestly I think those mindset shifts of like, okay, being willing to admit I can't do it alone and really getting your systems in place and being willing to pivot.

I mean, the whole thing is like a lot of people look at these successful business owners singing like, oh wow, they had one great idea and it just like was successful. It's like, no, they actually. Behind every successful business is like 10 different failures. Right. Or Yeah. You know, different things that you like, were willing to get messy and like mistakes and things that like, okay, if someone peeled back and look back, you know, 15, 10 years ago, oh my goodness, I'm so glad my business does not look like it did then, you know?

Yes. Today. So exactly. There's like that messy side of things, and that's what I just love about your story and your mindset and just everything that you've kind of built over the last few years. So seriously, Kylie, thank you so much for just like. Everything you've shared today. As we're kind of wrapping up, is there anything else you wanna leave our listeners with?

The biggest thing is just don't overthink, like take the next step forward. I think a lot of photographers just get stuck in the overthinking. They're like, I'm not good enough. I, I can't charge that much.

, I, I can't, I could never book that thing. I can never do that thing, or I don't ever wanna do weddings or I don't ever wanna do whatever. And just trying different things until you figure it out is the best way to learn if it, if you're cut out for it. When I first started on the journey, I said I would never shoot weddings, and then I became a wedding photographer, like full on for like five years.

I didn't wanna do weddings and I switched into products and you know, like, I think a lot of photographers preach like you have to find , your niche and you have to stay there. And , that's how you become successful. If you look at my journey, it's a lot of pivoting. It's a lot of whatever work. I'm like building a business that works with my life, not a business that works with, you know, someone else's life or what a professional sells me.

And it's a lot of just taking the next right step. , And then the last thing is don't be afraid to diversify your revenue, , along the way. So I obviously have a lot going, if you like, look at my website, you're like, whoa, this girl, , she's got education. She's what, you know, doing product every, oh, there's families, other seniors.

Not all of that is me. Like we have different photographers specializing in different things, but don't be afraid of that. Um, when done right, where you're able to segment, like who you're marketing to and all that kind of stuff. You can grow whatever kind of business that you feel passionate about, and it doesn't have to fit into anyone's box.

Totally. And I love that because I think so often we look at the boxes that other people have built and we're like, oh, I don't fit this, or That's not me, or How can I ever amount to that? And you're so right, like you bring something unique to the table and when you really are not afraid to get after it, try different things and really find what works for you.

Like that's where you're gonna really see a lot of success. So I just, I love that so much now. Um, okay, Kylie, I'm curious too, and this is kind of a pivot because you talked a little bit about pivoting, but I know a lot of my, listeners are primarily like wedding photographers, but you talked a little bit about pivoting into, you know, working with brands.

Could you talk a little bit more about , what that looked like and how to like, pitch yourself and actually , start breaking into something that maybe you haven't done before? Like what worked and what kind of helped you propel into that? Yeah. , First of all, I'll, I'll say that. Don't sleep on the product space.

Um, as you saw in like the journey, that's when I had like a huge jump in my career is when we added the product photography. , And it fits in so well with like your life and even if you wanna keep being a wedding photographer, because what's great about it is people are shipping product to me from all over the world.

I have brands in Canada and Asia, Africa, Germany, all over the world. Obviously the us Um, and they shipped to me and then I get to decide when I shoot it within the window of when they receive it. Like, so it's like a two week window so I can shoot while my kids are at school when my kids are little. I shot during nap time, preschool, like the two hour chunk, you know?

And so first of all, amazing industry. Fits great with what you're already doing. Obviously there's some things that are different about shooting products than shooting weddings. It's not emotion as emotional and getting emotions and whatever. It's getting great marketing images. But, , it really kind of started organically for me.

One of my clients who was a family client, started a baby brand and I was like, yeah, I'll take the pictures. Let's do it. So we rented a studio, we shot the pictures. This was like over 10 years ago. And, . Then I was like, wait, this is awesome. I can shoot when my kids are at school. I can shoot whatever. So I turned my front living room at the time, or not living room office that had like gray floors and white walls.

, It had baseboard heating, so I could only use one section of one wall. And I started like shooting my, like my kids with different products I would get for like free or for trade. And then that portfolio started building and I was like, wait, I'm gonna pitch other baby and kid companies. So I started in the baby and kid space, 'cause I had baby and kids at the time.

But since then it's evolved to jewelry and dog food and swimsuits that I'm like literally looking around like what are my brands around the room? Like everything I've. Dog poop bags, um, mugs, everything you can think of. I've probably shot it. , We shoot about 215 different brands a year. Now it's brought in over $200,000 of, , extra income a year.

And it simply started from just, or organically and then reaching out and pitching. I actually have a full, like free. Class on how to get started in pitching that. I can leave for you guys too, but it, it really is so simple and, and such a easy thing for photographers to fit in to like their, their business model they already have.

I love that and I think that that's so good, especially just like. That, that, that, that true fact of just, man, you're already doing photography. You already have the skills, so why not find this extra thing you have the lighting. Yeah, exactly. Totally do it from your kitchen table, like it's amazing. Yeah. I love that and I think, you know, for anyone that's sleeping on that or wanting to get into it, go for it.

I'm, I'm big on diversification. That's something that I feel like mm-hmm. Is definitely a conversation. And honestly, something I could do a whole other episode on and probably will because I mean. If you think about it, like the lifespan of a wedding photographer, and I've been talking about this a lot recently.

It's just like, you're gonna be doing this till you're 65. Mm-hmm. So why not try to find ways to diversify and do what works with you and, you know, work and hustle now while you can, so you can walk later in life. Like, you know, that's kind of a big thing. Yeah. And I think we saw a huge shift in everything when the economy, the economy shifted with COVID.

Um, and then it hasn't really. You know, figured itself out yet. , That was, that's, this has been a hard time for photographers that are not diversified. , Because if you're relied on one stream in one area and that one is struggling, then you're struggling. You know, and I haven't been struggling through this, and I think the key has really been just because I have like, okay, weddings, boom took a plummet.

I'll fight 'em for you because that is just not true. You don't have to stay in one. I shoot everything still. I shoot my neighbors who are seniors. I mean, I don't specialize in it, but I shoot my families. I shoot, you know, I shoot everything that is coming my way, you know? That's great. And I think like, you know, there's ways to do it in a way that aligns, like for me, I focus on weddings, but I still take on seniors, but I'm also not going after that.

Exactly. But if that's something I did want to do, I could easily build that out. , And find ways to do those. So , if you do wanna like, you know, speak to your ideal clients, I think weddings. Are a little bit more difficult when you're trying to do everything. So like to your point, you're not going after weddings specifically.

They're taking a huge plummet. You'll still take 'em on maybe here and there, but like, it's not your focus. So like weddings are like, it's good to niche down to that and like maybe have a separate thing that does like brands and other types of things. Like you can still build multiple businesses and it's not that hard, like through doing a DBA or whatever makes sense mm-hmm.

In like your area and how you can structure it. Like you have the skillset. So how, how can you build something around that? That's such a good point. Um. So, like a lot of people think I'm crazy 'cause I have like five different Instagram accounts. But that's when the, the niching down is a problem if you try to not niche and you keep 'em all in one account.

That's what people are talking about when they say, but it's basically running three different businesses is what I'm doing. 'cause I'm market marketing just to commercial clients, just to family clients, just to my coaching clients and not trying to merge 'em. So what you just said is such a huge part of the diversification is you can't diversify and combine everything into one marketing funnel.

It, it does involve more work, but there's lots of benefits and you can leave one kind of on autopilot while you're focusing on the other one. , Depending on like the economy shifts and all the things that are going on. Exactly, and again, you can't predict those things, but if you are set up and have the mindset and ability to pivot or maybe I'm just gonna launch something new, I'm not gonna necessarily leave what I'm already doing, but what can I do on the side and like kind of build and pitch and kind of build a portfolio around and slowly mark that.

That's where it's like you can do this and have it not even shake your business you're already doing while the economy might shake it. Exactly. You're smart. You're kind of doing this silent work in the background to build like you can do it and it doesn't have to be this loud, crazy. Thing and maybe it fails and nobody will ever know, you know?

Exactly. No, I think that's key , to all of this. That's key. Totally. Awesome. Well, okay, I feel like I could talk for hours. There's so many great things that you've already shared. , As we're kind of wrapping up , with anyone that's listening, if they wanna connect with you, where can they find you and what types of things do you have to offer?

Yeah, so I have three main Instagram accounts. My main, main one that is me all the time. It's Kylie Ann dot mon. You can find the other ones from there. But, um, that's where I do like more of my coaching page and talk about the behind the scenes of being a mom and a photographer and all the different stuff.

And I also have that free class I was talking about, about more of a how to get into product photography that I think everyone should try or at least know. Um, 'cause you'll never know when it just lands in your lap from one of your clients or something like that. Um, like, like I told you that in the back of my brain, I had that associate class, you want this in the back of your brain, so when that product lands in your lap, you're like, wait, yes, I do know how to do this, so I can leave the link with you and you can put that, or it's in the link in my bio on Instagram as well.

I love that. Awesome. Well everyone, be sure to go check out Kylie, give her a follow. She's got so much to share and obviously many years of experience. So that is something that in and of itself is so valuable and a lot you can learn from. So thank you so much, Kylie, for being on the show and for everyone listening, we'll see you next week.