In this episode: Chris talks about his 'stuck in first gear' theory - and how businesses can escape, and David whinges about a successful YouTuber.

"It was hot and steamy and I feel like there was a Shaman in there."

"If you're in first gear, it doesn't matter how much more effort you put in - there's a limit to the speed you can go."

"There was definitely this moment of 'shit, right, OK - I guess we're not playing anymore'."

"It's like ITV2 or Paddy McGuinness - they're just bad things that are inexplicably successful."

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