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Today, we discuss our eclectic variety of news topics, ACH, and Elastic Pricing.

William Sikkens, BillSnodgrass, and Gretchen Winkler

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Welcome to User Friendly 2.0

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with host Bill Sikkens

technology architect.

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Hello, hello, this is User Friendly 2.0.

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As always, I am your host Bill Sikkens.

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Joining me Gretchen. Bill,

welcome to this week's show.

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Hello there blue.

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So what's new and exciting in your world?

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Anything?

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Oh, no.

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Yeah, it's about the same week I've had I.

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The only thing that I really have

that would be relevant is

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I got into a bit of a controversy

with vendor that I use over ACH.

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So we're going to be talking about that

a little later in the episode.

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And then the second segment,

we are going to be going over

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elastic pricing and Wi-Fi safety in 2026.

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So we'll explain all of that

when we get to that point.

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All right.

What do we have in the news this week.

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All right.

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Commodore

fans split over C64 ultimate FPGA

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firmware lockdown.

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So what does that mean?

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Well that's a lot of letters.

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So. Well okay,

what we're talking about here,

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and we've had a lot of questions

coming in about this

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and had to look it up

to figure out what this even was going on

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is like Atari,

Commodore is back in a new form.

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So anybody that of our listeners

that was around during that era,

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which would have been early to mid 80s,

may know what this kind

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of equipment is,

very first generation home microcomputers.

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And for weird people like me, I love

working with them in the retro stuff.

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I love modern technology,

but I like working with the old stuff too.

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In line with that,

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it seems like I'm not alone in that,

and it's enough that they are reissuing

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a lot of this equipment

that was done before.

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So the Commodore 64 FPGA

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ultimate is a new system

that looks just like the original,

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what they called breadboard Commodore 64

is now they do have three versions.

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One is the beige like that.

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And then they have another one

called a Founders Edition that's

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gold, and a third one that lights up

and is kind of really cool.

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So, you know, it's

whatever the preference is.

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But being FPGA, it is an emulator,

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but it's a hardware emulator,

so it works very well.

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And you can run your cartridges,

you can run your floppy disk drives

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and all of the other peripherals

and that type of a thing on the system.

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In fact,

the only thing that I've noticed on them

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is it doesn't have the user port,

which is like an expansion port.

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However,

I found out you can get one that's on USB.

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So one of the first things

you have to talk about is early

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80s computers did not have USB or I.

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This one does.

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But the one advantage to that is, is

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you can plug it

into a modern monitor television.

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So that does make it a little bit easier

from that standpoint.

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Well, what's been happening

is there came out with this

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and have started shipping them,

and there are people out there

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that are trying to make firmware for this.

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That is not the firmware

that comes on the system.

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So either hack stuff or customized stuff

or whatever the case may be.

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And being that it is FPGAs,

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it does use firmware

like a modern computer would,

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so you update it

and all that kind of stuff.

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And I don't think

that would be such a big deal,

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except that users that are screwing up

their computers by doing this

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in some cases, are expecting Commodore

to honor the warranty,

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even though they're using

third party software.

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And that's a problem.

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They don't have the infrastructure to do

that, right?

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Yeah, right.

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So what they're wanting to do

is on the next update,

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which I think is 1.1 or 1.2 is locked down

a portion of the firmware.

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And the idea here is not to keep users

from being able to do what they want

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with their computer,

but is to keep it from getting screwed up.

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So of course, there's some controversy

about that because there's people

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saying, well, we want, you know,

complete access and other saying, well,

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it would be nice to know

that this isn't going to be a problem.

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And the other thing

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that I look at it from a standpoint,

because this didn't exist in the days

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that these originally were made,

but this computer is also online.

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It has Wi-Fi, which means conceivably

somebody could try

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to hack the firmware or have a virus

or something like that to, you know.

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Yeah, I didn't have to worry about that

on my Atari 136,

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but I guess today you should.

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So well, isn't wouldn't

the simple evil thing to do

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would be to get on their computer and say

C colon format or something like that?

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Well, that works on a DOS machine,

but Commodore okay.

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Like it's see, if I can remember this,

you would load something

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universally was load

quote star quote comma eight.

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That's right.

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Because for some reason the floppy drive

is the eighth device on the computer.

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I don't I can't explain that.

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But it was okay.

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Now. But it is.

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It is kind of cool.

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Now I am a bit of a purist and I'm split

on even having stuff like this,

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but there is something nice

about being able to get a machine

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that does what it originally

would have done, but is reliable,

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and that's one of the big problems

that's being run into running:

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old equipment

sometimes is it's just aging out.

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And we've talked about that in the past,

but it is definitely a thing.

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And I think it's a kind of cool

to see that we are getting this.

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And then you have a choice of both.

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You can try to buy one at a garage sale

or on eBay, or get one of the new ones.

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And the funny thing about it

is, is the price that a working machine

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on eBay originally is going for

is about the same price as the new system.

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So you know, who knows?

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Well, would you like $100?

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Sure. Yeah, sure.

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Here's my checking account and credit

card number so you can send it.

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Okay.

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Just kidding on that. But.

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So what this is, is a settlement.

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If you are one of the few

handful of people that have used

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an Android device

since:

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So there's just a couple of us out there,

I guess.

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Oh yeah.

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What's that?

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So this is a class action settlement.

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The maximum amount you can get from

it is $100.

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And it is basically anybody

that has used an Android phone

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that's been online

through a cellular network.

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So if you had an Android tablet

that's only been on Wi-Fi,

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I guess that might not qualify.

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But check out the settlement website

for the details.

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And you have to be alive for some reason

that actually is in the list.

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Oh, okay. So Jeremy can't complain.

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Yeah, maybe that's what

maybe that's why they're doing it.

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So you can't like back claim?

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I don't know, but it does actually say

you have to be alive.

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And one of the other things is, is

you have to be in the United States.

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And this particular settlement,

the only state from my understanding,

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that is not covered by it, is California,

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because they have their own separate case

that you would register for there.

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So basically anybody

that has had an Android phone

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and has been online and used it,

which is most of the world

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can claim this settlement,

but you do have to go on and register

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with the settlement administrator

and give them a payment thing

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like a PayPal or, you know, sending you

a Zelle payment or something like that.

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So now the one thing that I will

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just give us a little footnote on

this is we all know

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that class action suits,

or most of us do a lot of times

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don't get quite what they tell you,

and you end up getting,

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you know, a coupon for $0.50 off

at McDonald's instead or something.

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And the payout of this

is not guaranteed to be $100,

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and it's based on the number of people

that claim and all that kind of stuff.

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So, you know, it can be a little bit less.

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But even if it is, it's still worth doing.

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Is it legitimate?

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It's not like a marketing ploy

to collect data from us.

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No, this is legitimate,

as far as I can tell.

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And if you want an attorneys

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thing on

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this, which I am not on YouTube,

and check out the attorney,

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Steve Lehto, he did a whole talk on this

where it goes into all of those details.

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But yes, it is a legitimate settlement.

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All right.

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SpaceX has deal for

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the right or a right to acquire cursor

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for $60 billion.

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So what is this cursor?

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I think number one is

because my understanding this is the only.

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Right okay. It's not a right. It's

the only right.

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So that's just context. Right.

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But basically what's going on here.

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Well let me actually start by explaining

what cursor is.

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And no, they're not referring to the thing

that flashes on your screen

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when you're typing in word

or some person saying foul language.

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Yeah, that would be

that would be another definition of it.

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Although I'm

sure some are considering this story.

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But there is a company that develops AI

for programmers, and I do know about them

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because I work within that thing and Musk

would like to control this assistance.

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So basically what's going on

here is a stand the swearing part of it.

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Yeah.

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Basically what it is, is controlling

the tools to create programing.

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So that's why this is going on here.

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This is a rumor.

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It's been reported in some outlets

that this is going to happen.

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It has not been something

I've been able to confirm,

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but it is out there wide enough

that it's something to be concerned about.

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And obviously

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if we find out it's not real or get

more news, we'll be covering that in the

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coming weeks.

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But one of the things on this,

and I think that this is the best way to

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sum it up, is developers are moving

from writing code to directing AI.

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And in many ways that is true.

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And in fact, before we started recording

today, we were looking at some stuff

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from our own dashboard

that we use for producing the show.

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And as a programmer,

I put the software together,

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but I am working with

AI to do the layout and design.

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I'm not good at that

and it did a really nice job

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in my opinion,

so I can see where this is going.

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The problem is,

is that current developers,

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you at least know

what you're getting back.

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And I have a funny feeling

that developers in the future

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are not going to know what the code is.

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I'll just paste it in

and that in of itself can cause problems.

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That's not a good thing,

just in my opinion.

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I see Bill,

you're agreeing with me on that.

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Yeah.

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But anyway, so yes, that's what it is.

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And we'll see if SpaceX has this happen.

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There's a lot of things that can happen

between now.

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And even if this is a real thing

that they're going to do,

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we'll see if it actually comes together.

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Disneyland announces

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immediate closure of Star Wars

Galaxy's Edge area.

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Yes, and this has been generating a lot

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of questions,

because if you look at this headline,

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you would think what the Disney's

closing Galaxy's Edge, right?

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Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

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It kind of makes sense.

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And it's like one of the most

popular places to get a photo.

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Yeah. It is. Well, people like it.

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It's the Star Wars section of Disneyland,

you know? So yeah.

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Why would they close it? Well,

what happened is, is on April 20th.

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So this last Monday,

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Disneyland abruptly blocked off

the Millennium Falcon building in Galaxy's

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Edge, and the cast members blocked access

to people getting in there,

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you know, that were guests of the park

and that type of a thing.

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But what it looks like is happening here

is they're not closing it forever,

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but they're updating it

and the ride in there is still running.

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Smugglers run,

I think, is what that's called.

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But the other part of it is being updated

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to revert it back to the original first

three movies.

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Oh, cool.

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That's what they're doing

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afterwards to see Darth Vader and,

you know, and a real CIF like Palpatine.

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But they'll have the characters

from that era in there.

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So that's what's actually going on here.

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But the one thing to be aware of

is that part of the park

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will not be available

if you go visit Disneyland right now.

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And this is an area

that a lot of people want to see.

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So check Disneyland's website

to see what's going on.

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And I do not believe this is affected

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in any other park,

and I don't even know for sure.

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Does Disney World have a Star Wars?

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I don't know, yeah, I don't know what

I think we should take it.

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Expense paid trip to floral research

for the show.

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Right? There you are.

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You know, I've been in there

there in the past, many, many years ago.

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But that was before

Disney had its claws into Star Wars,

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so I wouldn't be surprised.

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It's an accurate way to put it,

although fortunately

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it looks like the direction

they're going from that standpoint.

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A lot of fans, including me, are liking

what we're seeing.

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So yes, the whole thing has been great.

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Yeah, all things are great.

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And The Mandalorian and Grogu movie

looks like it's going to be really cool.

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So, you know,

we'll see what happens. Yeah.

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All right.

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New technology is changing

the way Tualatin gets its power.

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Wallet

in, by the way, is a city in Oregon. Yeah.

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I was going to say to Walton, Oregon.

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So this is really kind of cool.

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There's a lot of potential energy,

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and sometimes you have to be creative

to get it.

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Now we see renewable energies

with things like solar and wind

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and all that kind of stuff,

which can augment the power grid.

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But in a lot of cases it's not reliable.

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You know, if there's no wind,

you don't get wind energy.

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If you don't have sun,

the solar energy can be affected by that.

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Although I am led to understand

there are some solar panels

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now that can pick up power at night,

just not as much.

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But this is an interesting thing.

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And what they're doing is

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they're installing turbines,

power turbines into the water mains.

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So the pressurized water mains

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as it pushes through the pipe,

which it does already turns the turbines.

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And now that creates power.

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And it's not taking more power to push

the water through the pipes to do this.

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That's noticeable.

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So I'm going to really love to see where

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this ends up going,

but it is kind of cool.

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This is, I think, a take on

something like wave energy, but every city

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that has a water service,

which is most everybody.

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Yeah, do something like this.

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And you would have the investment

and the equipment initially to be able

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to retrofit your system,

but once you've done it,

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it is renewable energy that's coming

from a source that you're already

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expending the energy to put the water

through the pipes in the first place.

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So I think it's really kind of cool

whoever came up with this,

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I've got to give kudos to

because it's a neat idea.

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It's a terrific idea.

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Why don't space photos ever show stars?

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NASA's

explanation is simpler than you'd think.

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Well, it's

because we've never been off the planet.

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You know, the moon landing was fake.

I've lied to understand that.

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You don't tell who is Armstrong. That

because you might get punched.

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Or was it.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's.

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I think that's it.

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In any event, you know this.

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We actually get questions on this

all the time in this particular topic.

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All the conspiracy

theorists are out there.

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There's no stars.

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Well, there's actually

a very good reason for it.

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And if you've ever taken a picture,

you've probably dealt with this.

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And it has to do with light

if you're photographing

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the moon or the Earth, which is bright

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and the stars are much dimmer

in the background,

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they're not going to show up

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because you're going to be focused

in on the object and the primary area.

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You could try to do both,

but it makes it blurry.

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And on that, from the Artemis mission

that just happened,

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there are pictures of the stars

in the background,

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which are photographed

when the foreground object is not bright.

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So they are really out there, you know,

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now, the moon landing again,

I do have to say was completely faked.

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But the one thing is, is the reality.

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They wanted to film it on location.

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So, you know,

I keep thinking about the Star Trek

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episode where they are on you to,

you know,

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I'm trying to remember the correct title

of the episode.

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It's something about something

about climbing

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to the top of the mountain,

and I can touch the sky.

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I remember that Star Trek. Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

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And now that would be the case

if you traveled out to the Dyson Sphere

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or Planet Nine.

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But we'll talk about that later. Yeah.

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NASA shuts off instrument on Voyager

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one to keep spacecraft operating.

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Yeah.

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So it's a what, was Star

Trek a five year mission initially,

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I think I think so, yeah.

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Well, I believe that Voyager one

and two were a three year mission

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when they started.

It was somewhere in that range.

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And we are well beyond that threshold now.

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But they are powered by a reactor.

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And as time goes by, the reactor

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generates less power

just because it's running out of fuel.

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Essentially, there's a much better

explanation for that, I know, but that's

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that's essentially a 10,000ft view.

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So as time has been going on

and the fact that the Voyager spacecraft

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has been continuing to operate

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and are still in communication with Earth

and are now the only man

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made objects that are actually outside

of our solar system in interstellar space.

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Keeping them going,

at least to some extent, is a big deal.

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So short of being able to run

a service call or asking the Roswell

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Grays to do it for us or something,

shutting off equipment,

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we'll prolong the life

a little bit longer.

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So they've been shutting off instruments.

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There was a plan to do this

that was put together.

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Well, what happened on Voyager one is

they were doing some routine

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work on it and it went almost

went into low power shutdown.

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Something happened.

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So it was decided to speak up,

turning off this last instrument

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that they were going to do,

which is the CP.

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And what that instrument is for is

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detecting low

energy charged particles or less.

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See the acronym makes sense.

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Gretchen I'll do.

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And this is actually been something

that's been pretty much running straight

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for 49 years,

which is time since one launch.

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So they're keeping one other instrument

going.

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And the other thing they have to do

is keep the spacecraft heated enough

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so it doesn't freeze,

because I'm led to understand

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it is very cold and interstellar space.

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So I haven't checked it out for myself.

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I don't know,

but that's what I've been told. So.

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Oh my.

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Okay.

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Well all right, well, let's

go back to Earth here and talk ACH for

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a little while.

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And where this came up is

we have a storage unit.

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And the storage unit

decided that they're going to charge 1.5%.

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If you want to continue

paying with a credit card

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to try to get people to use ACH.

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And I believe that stands for Automated

Clearing House.

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Oh, I don't like the sound of that.

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What ACH is, is basically

an electronic version of a check.

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Now, anybody that's been a long time

listener knows how I feel about checks.

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I'm a little shocked

that we still have them,

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you know,

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so the rest of the world

has gotten rid of them

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because you give somebody

a check, your handing them your account

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number, tracking or routing number,

signature address.

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Yes. Yeah.

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All that stuff. Yeah.

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And that is a bit insecure.

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Plus you can just print checks on your

laser printer and everybody knows that.

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So making these things up

isn't that terribly difficult to do.

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So ACH is an electronic version of it.

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Now I will give it that.

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It is safer than sending a check

through the mail.

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However, in order to sign up for ACH,

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you have to provide the company

that you're going to pay.

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With ACH, you're checking account number,

address, routing number, etc., etc.

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right? And

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well, there's not a check in the mail

that's going to get stolen.

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The concern

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I have about these things is what happens

when that payment processor gets hacked.

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Because keep in mind, most businesses

do not actually run their own credit

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card transactions. I would say 99% don't.

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They contract out with a third party

bank to do that before them.

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And these places are very much targets

because they have financial access to

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our credit cards and everything else.

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But here's the big deal on that.

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If someone steals your credit card

number and runs the card up, it's not real

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money in the sense that it's not actually

taking money out of your bank account.

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That's your paycheck

that you use to pay the power.

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And the credit card

people are kind of like keeping an eye

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on these things actively,

because this is what happens.

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So they're watching it.

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And and when you deal

with your checking account,

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while there are ways to get money

recovered, it's a hassle.

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You are not going to have access

to your money for at least a little while,

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which means your other checks for months.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And a lot of online

bill pay also uses a check,

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but it's a different kind

lot to do electronic two.

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But the checking version of that,

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since kind of a generic check

that's drawn on an account from the bank.

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So that does not actually send out

your personal checking account number.

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However, it is funded by your account.

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So if you send one of those out

or have automatic payments or whatever,

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and all of a sudden your account

has no money in it, you're going to start

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having bounce fees and overdraft

and all of that kind of thing.

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And banks generally have a lot

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less time that you have to make

the claim under your account.

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So if you don't keep an eye on it,

which everybody should, it's your money.

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You should check on it.

I do mine at least once a week.

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I'll be sitting on hold or something.

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Just check in to make sure that you know

everything looks pretty normal.

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And to that end, I strongly advise

doing that because a lot can happen.

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But anytime you're giving information

for direct access to your real money,

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I personally would recommend against that

because I do not consider it safe now.

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Yeah, they could just pull it out.

429

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Exactly.

430

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All of it,

and eventually they'll get hacked.

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I mean, the thing of it is that's not an

if it's a win really.

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So at the end of the day,

that is why I have concerns

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about dealing with stuff in this way.

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Looking to have another point.

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What if what if it's not the hackers

that's the problem?

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What if it's the company

that you're working with?

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Years ago, I had a dial up account

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where they would not accept my.

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I didn't want

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to have their services anymore,

but they kept charging my credit card.

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So what the bank did was

get rid of the credit card.

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They killed the card

to stop this, this so-called provider.

443

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And what happens if they just keep

stealing money out of your own?

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It's not like you can just, you know.

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And even if you could get it back,

you're still looking at months

446

:

and you're still looking at having

to close the account to set it over,

447

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you know?

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Yeah. Which can be a lot of hassles

and of itself.

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And let me tell you

a little story on that,

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because these type of things do happen.

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This is a story from a cruise line

out of Florida.

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I'm not going to mention the names

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because it's not relevant,

but there was a couple on the cruise

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that had bought the prepaid meal plan

and were having dinner,

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and they had an American Express card

connected for other charges on the boat.

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Right.

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So they go and they placed a tip

and the my understanding,

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the person that ran it,

instead of putting in the tip amount

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and they were going to leave a big tip

because the service was great,

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but instead of putting it

in the tip amount,

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they accidentally entered the ID number

of the couple on the boat

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as the amount that was going to be paid,

which got like $90,000 or something.

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So here this goes through and authorizes

this amount on their American Express

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card. Eyes up the card.

They can't use it anymore.

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But it had that been like a debit card

or ACH, it would have withdrawn

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that money from their account

or at least locked it up, you know. So.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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You got to be careful.

You got to keep your eye on things.

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You got to be vigilant,

especially in this day and age.

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But anytime

I can avoid giving a third party

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my financial information

like that, I'm going to do it.

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And in a few seconds here, you might ask,

why are they doing that?

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Well, ACH

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does not have the fees like credit cards

due to the business to be able to accept

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the payment. So that's

why we're seeing it pushed for a lot.

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But again,

think about it before you do it.

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This is user friendly 2.0.

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We'll be back after the break.

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He's from the future.

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He's got a really big computer

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and he uses it uses it every day

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and uses it uses it in every way.

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What you use it for, you know, I'm

not that sure because he is here.

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This is user friendly 2.0.

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Check out our website at User

Friendly Show.

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It is your one stop for everything

user friendly.

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And now through the end of May

we're running a special little promotion.

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Go to our site by the Cyber Hawk book

or by Nights Journal

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and Amazon will give you $5 off,

so it's definitely worth

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checking out and say, you know,

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you know, I was really shocked.

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The books are expensive.

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Well, the books are also quite thick.

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And that's true. Yeah.

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You're not you're not getting

some tiny little flimsy thing.

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And if you like the eReader, like Kindle,

they're available on that for

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I think ten bucks. So it's you know,

you can get it that way too.

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But it's definitely worth checking out.

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And again, right through the website

and you'll save yourself some money.

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I highly recommend it.

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It's completely my unbiased opinion.

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All right, on the note,

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I'm completely biased.

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Like, you know, sarcasm sign, right?

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Yeah, sorry.

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Generally speaking,

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it is the rest of the world

that seems to be appreciating this too.

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I know you've gotten some feedback

from people that are,

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you know, somewhat negative about it,

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but the majority of your feedback

apparently is very positive.

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So that's a cool thing,

and it actually is worth the read.

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The people I know that have read it

have enjoyed it and Night School Journal

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and then The Cyber Hawk Rise of Heroes

are two very different stories,

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both set in the same universe,

but they're fun ones.

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A coming of age novel and the other ones

sci fi, where you get to play

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with all this high tech

and be a cyborg and thing.

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So topic I kind of like.

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So yeah, there you are.

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All right, on to what

we are going to talk about today.

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We've got listener questions

that have come in on both of these topics.

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So again

like I say user friendly dot show.

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Let us know what you want to hear.

Because that's where we get this stuff.

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And the first one

is something called elastic pricing.

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All right I don't like the sound of that.

528

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That sounds bad.

529

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What would you think something like that

is just just that plastic pricing

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:

that they'll just make it more expensive

on their whim.

531

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Just I don't know, I've you crazy

I don't know, I'm not mistaken.

532

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It's where they're pricing things

based on location or personal information.

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Yeah.

534

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And time of day even.

535

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So, what's going on here is basically

what Bill just said is they have these

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electronic price tags on the shelves now,

and you'll see a lot of them.

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I know up here

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the Kroger store has it read Myer, Home

Depot has them and a lot of others.

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Now part of why they would do that is it

saves staff

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:

time to be able to change prices

when they need to.

541

:

So I understand that,

but they can also be changed on the fly.

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:

So some of the things that are going on,

or at least some of the concerns are,

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is that one of the rumors

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that's out there is their pricing based

on some kind of facial recognition thing.

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If you walk up to the display,

it raises the price.

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If they think you can spend more.

Now that is a rumor.

547

:

They're not doing that, at least not yet.

548

:

But they are doing things

like surge pricing.

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So you go into the store one time a day,

and the prices will be different

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than if you win

in another time of day, stuff like that,

551

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you know?

552

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So I have to dress like a hobo

in order to go shopping.

553

:

No, no.

554

:

Okay, again, it's not anything like that,

but it is the time of day.

555

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It is what's happening.

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If their inventory levels go low,

it can automatically raise the price.

557

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You know, stuff like that.

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Expiration dates.

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This is one.

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If it gets closer, it can lower the price,

which is not a term you use associated

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:

with. It's always about raising the price,

you know.

562

:

But that is one thing.

563

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So if they wanted to

564

:

sell something quickly and then demand

if something gets real busy,

565

:

like they're selling a lot of this one

item, like, say,

566

:

air conditioners here in the Pacific

Northwest in the beginning of the year.

567

:

Well, as the demand goes up, it can

automatically raise the prices for those.

568

:

And since it's an automated system,

it will know at the checkout

569

:

what the price is on the shelf. So

570

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it literally could change from where

you picked it up.

571

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Yeah it could, it could.

572

:

Yeah okay.

573

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That's very deceptive.

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And yeah, I could see that,

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you know, having bad results.

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It is.

577

:

And it's, you know,

one of those types of situations.

578

:

So basically again,

what you're dealing with here is that

579

:

the prices are not changing based

on who is standing in front of the shelf.

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:

I could see them trying that,

but that's not the case right now.

581

:

Camera sees you, prices go up

so you don't have to dress like a hobo.

582

:

As you say,

you will be able to get lower prices.

583

:

At least they deny

that they're doing this.

584

:

And regulators,

585

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I think, would step in on that one

because that would be a little bit

586

:

not so nice.

587

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But there's

probably rules against that too.

588

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However, where this is going

589

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and what we're seeing as retailers

are investing heavily in AI pricing

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systems, loyalty

apps are getting more personalized.

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Digital things

remove the friction of changing prices.

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:

Now that last one,

I can kind of understand

593

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going through a store

and changing all the price tags.

594

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That would take a lot of human time,

so you can avoid that.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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It also see things like targeted discounts

of one store targets a specific item

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:

for a discount just in that store

or during a certain time period,

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:

these kind of things.

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And then app based

pricing that differs from in-store tags.

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That's another one too.

601

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And we're already seeing that.

602

:

I mean, if you go online and order

something, we do the click pick thing

603

:

where you put your grocery order in online

and then you go pick it up

604

:

and they blow it into your trunk.

605

:

And I have noticed that the prices

are different there than other things.

606

:

Now, one of the other questions that's

coming into this is loyalty programs.

607

:

And this isn't

directly related to this topic, because

608

:

this is something

that's always been out there.

609

:

When you run your loyalty card,

they know what you bought.

610

:

In fact, a lot of places

put that online now and you can see

611

:

I can see what I bought for groceries

five years ago at Smith's and Merino.

612

:

Right.

613

:

So not that I would need that,

but it's out there

614

:

and they use this type of information

to target the specials they send you in.

615

:

That kind of a thing.

616

:

Now, I haven't had an objection to that

because it's the products

617

:

I buy and I get coupons or whatever

the case may

618

:

be to be able to use for that,

but it makes sense.

619

:

You know, what I don't like

620

:

is when they sell that data

and believe me, they do to third parties.

621

:

So, you know, it's an interesting thing.

622

:

In fact, there was a law and order done

about this type of a topic

623

:

a number of years ago,

and it was based on a true story in that

624

:

there was a stalker stalking this woman,

and they knew, you know,

625

:

what kind of toothpaste she bought,

what kind of,

626

:

you know, all these different things.

627

:

And it came out well, how would they know

that even if they were watching her?

628

:

You can see some stuff.

629

:

Well,

the hackers had gotten into the computer

630

:

that had her loyalty card

so they could see exactly what she bought

631

:

when she bought it, when she was shopping,

you know, all that kind of stuff.

632

:

So again, the story that is they did

it is fiction, but it was based on

633

:

something that actually did happen.

634

:

And, you know, like we said in the first

half, it's not about

635

:

if they're going to get hacked, it's about

when is it will happen.

636

:

So these type of things,

but it isn't even so much that last week

637

:

we talked about the DMV

selling your personal data.

638

:

Same thing with loyalty programs.

639

:

And you know, if you lose your login

or something, a lot of times it's okay.

640

:

What's your name?

What's your date of birth?

641

:

Maybe some other bit of information.

642

:

What's your address?

643

:

Well, if someone has that information

from the loyalty card

644

:

or your driver's license or wherever

they got it, they're going to have that.

645

:

And with the credit bureaus

646

:

being hacked, most of that information

is already on the dark web, which

647

:

and sometimes has better customer service

than the websites on the regular web.

648

:

So I've been told by a friend. Right. But

649

:

but in all

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:

seriousness, it is a huge problem.

651

:

And I think the worry that creates

these type of things is, is

652

:

stuff keeps going more and more digital is

could they eventually do this?

653

:

We were talking about the idea

654

:

that airlines were changing ticket

pricing based on the device you are using.

655

:

And while they steadfastly deny this,

and I wasn't able to find any evidence

656

:

that that was the case,

657

:

I could find that where you were

buying the tickets, like physically,

658

:

your geolocation would change the price

and other things like that.

659

:

But I do know as a programmer

660

:

you can tell what your user is using

the browser website.

661

:

That's a function

that's been there for a very long time.

662

:

And what it's supposed to be used for

is formatting the page

663

:

so it fits the screen size, stuff

like that.

664

:

Exactly.

665

:

But, you know, it's

certainly not something that any bad guy

666

:

would look at and go, hey,

I can use this for nefarious reasons.

667

:

So the idea that there would be

a concern of these things

668

:

to do that, actually do that and deploy

that in a store would take more,

669

:

because you would have

to have facial recognition

670

:

and you have to have it

tied to some system

671

:

where they could look up who you were

and these type of things.

672

:

But, you know,

it wouldn't be impossible to do that.

673

:

It really wouldn't.

674

:

And I don't know, you know, I love

675

:

technology, I love

I love the new stuff, like I say,

676

:

but there are some

things here where you do get

677

:

a situation

that's going to be kind of scary.

678

:

So what happens now? Dynamic pricing.

679

:

So if you shop between 3 and 5,

just making this up at three and 5 p.m.

680

:

somewhere, the prices are going

to be higher because they're busier.

681

:

And then after prime time

it goes lower to do that.

682

:

You know, and I know the pushback on these

things has been pretty negative.

683

:

Uber surge pricing is one of those things

that causes problems,

684

:

especially when there's an emergency and

everybody needs to get out of someplace.

685

:

And now they start charging you more

because more people are using the service.

686

:

Right.

687

:

So pushback will be the best way

688

:

to keep places

from doing this kind of stuff.

689

:

And it has worked in some cases.

690

:

As far as I know, we don't have to pay

to use the heated seats in a BMW

691

:

or the key fob on a Toyota's remote start,

that kind of a thing.

692

:

But these are all things

693

:

that these companies had wanted to charge

a subscription for, or additional money,

694

:

or that kind of a thing that people

making enough of a fuss push back on.

695

:

So, you know, it's just interesting

to see where this goes.

696

:

What do you guys think of that?

697

:

Are you ready to have facial recognition

at a store and how the prices change?

698

:

I think I'm going

to wear my mission anywhere.

699

:

I think

I'm going to wear my Mandalorian helmet.

700

:

I think we should all go in

Mandalorian helmets

701

:

that would go into a bank

or a casino like that.

702

:

You probably bad things might happen.

703

:

So yeah, you know, now, one thing

I will tell you that's

704

:

a little bit scary on this too, is

we covered this last year,

705

:

but at one point Home

Depot was having videos taken of people

706

:

using the automated checkouts

and was using facial recognition.

707

:

So if you log in

like I have my extra military thing,

708

:

it would actually have been able

to put my picture with my account.

709

:

Oh, now if I go online

it knows more information.

710

:

Now, I haven't seen them doing anything

711

:

nefarious with it,

but I don't like them having that at all.

712

:

You know? Yeah, it's kind of creepy.

713

:

In a few weeks,

we're going to be doing an episode

714

:

on all the places where there's cameras

and what they do.

715

:

This will be in there again.

716

:

But some of the other stuff

we've talked about,

717

:

like lock cameras and stuff,

it's getting downright weird.

718

:

And we're going to happen.

719

:

Is it just here in the United States

or is it in other countries as well?

720

:

Oh no. Oh no.

721

:

Surveillance states

are all over the world, I think the UK.

722

:

Yeah, I don't know if we still have,

but they had a record of having

723

:

the most cameras per person

or something like that in London.

724

:

Yeah,

I had a friend complaining about that.

725

:

We're feeling concerned. Yes.

726

:

It's a valid concern if everything you do

from when you leave your house to

727

:

when you get back is videoed

and recorded somewhere,

728

:

that really is not a good thing.

729

:

I don't think I'd make a very exciting

what is it?

730

:

Was the character's name Truman in that

movie Truman Show, the Truman show?

731

:

I'm sorry,

I'm not really that interesting.

732

:

Don't watch me no fall asleep.

733

:

Let's say, as a for example,

you drive to work,

734

:

you go to a store, you know,

a couple times a week, drive home.

735

:

Now all of a sudden, the ads on your phone

or for that store

736

:

and normally go there

and with some of the stuff Ford's

737

:

patented, it's a forced commercial

738

:

on your car infotainment system

when you drive by the place.

739

:

Wouldn't

you like to come in today for this deal?

740

:

Not doing it right now, but is it possible

they filed the patent for it?

741

:

So yeah, it's possible.

742

:

It's possible.

743

:

So next listener question that came in

that is something

744

:

important is securing Wi-Fi.

745

:

Now this is not anything new.

746

:

Wi-Fi has been out for a year or two.

747

:

I'm led to understand

and maybe a little longer than that.

748

:

And public Wi-Fi

as a result has been out there.

749

:

You go to Starbucks or the airport or,

you know, nice hotel or something.

750

:

It's all

751

:

offer a Wi-Fi network, you know?

752

:

And the problem is, is these open

753

:

networks have a situation where

754

:

when you're on them, so are the bad guys,

and it's an open network.

755

:

So your security,

if you don't have things set up properly

756

:

on a shared untrusted network, is a thing.

757

:

So the common risks you have on

758

:

that is something

called a man in the middle attack,

759

:

which means you going to a website

and it's working just fine.

760

:

But someone's injected themselves

into that data stream,

761

:

so they're seeing what you're doing,

762

:

getting your credit card number,

all that kind of stuff.

763

:

Fake Wi-Fi hotspots.

764

:

This is a big deal.

765

:

And with Wi-Fi seven out

now, it's an even bigger deal.

766

:

So what will happen

is you'll go to the airport

767

:

and you'll have a Wi-Fi network.

768

:

They're called the airport,

you know, whatever.

769

:

And somebody has a router

running on Wi-Fi seven or even six.

770

:

It's probably more powerful

than what they have there.

771

:

They plug it in somewhere,

sitting there with the same name.

772

:

Now you're connecting to their network.

773

:

You have the routing setup, right?

774

:

It'll still go out to the internet

775

:

and that type of a thing, but

they can see everything that you're doing

776

:

and that can lead to malware injection,

other things like that.

777

:

So how do you

778

:

how do you

779

:

check your phone to see

if it's got malware on it?

780

:

How do you work to protect your device?

781

:

Now one option is prey,

782

:

but something a little more

that you can figure out right now,

783

:

and that doesn't require

divine intervention.

784

:

There are some things you can do

in answer to your question to figure out

785

:

if there's malware on the phone

or the tablet or your laptop.

786

:

Some of the things you look for

are the device suddenly slows down,

787

:

or you have performance issues

that kind of a thing, or you open your web

788

:

browser and it's always forced

to some specific third party website.

789

:

Those are some signs

of that type of thing.

790

:

But it gets kind of scary

because if you have good programmers,

791

:

they can do keyboard tracking.

792

:

That kind of a thing.

793

:

I know on a phone it's a touch screen,

but it's the same idea

794

:

where everything you key in

795

:

there is sent to a third party site,

and if the software is written

796

:

correctly, it's not going to necessarily

slow down your phone.

797

:

But if weird things start happening,

798

:

that's one thing

that you would want to look at.

799

:

And if you start thinking

there's a problem with it, check with your

800

:

cell phone provider like your Verizon

or whatever is one place to start.

801

:

And then when they don't know

802

:

what you're talking about,

there are programs like malware bites

803

:

and some other things that are available

on mobile platforms as well as desktops.

804

:

Now, anti-virus software,

all that kind of stuff.

805

:

Now, my thing with all of that is

I used to be very, very specific

806

:

on running, you know, like Norton

Antivirus or one of these systems.

807

:

I have found that on the new versions

of windows, Windows Defender

808

:

does a pretty nice job,

and it's as good as the third party one,

809

:

and it doesn't have the footprint

that slows down.

810

:

Your computer on

your phone is a little bit different now.

811

:

The operating systems,

812

:

whether it's Android or iPhone,

do have this technology built in.

813

:

We've seen even recently

where there's a zero day update

814

:

because they've found a problem

in our exploiting it,

815

:

and they push the update out.

816

:

And one of the bigger problems

817

:

with mobile devices, especially on

the Android side, is your updates

818

:

might come out from Google, but

might not be approved by the cell phone

819

:

provider or the company

that makes the phone for a few weeks.

820

:

So you get a delay

on getting these things in.

821

:

So your Google Pixel, which is a Google

phone, will get updated before

822

:

your Samsung Galaxy or whatever,

you know, and that can be a problem.

823

:

So some of the other things

you can do to try to avoid getting malware

824

:

in the first place is don't install creepy

apps.

825

:

And I will say

826

:

Apple's a little bit more secure

on their distribution than Android is.

827

:

But malware apps are out there

on both systems, and if you go out there

828

:

and get an app that you know,

we're going to pay you money

829

:

for every website you visit or every game

you play or something like that,

830

:

probably something to be suspicious of.

831

:

And while there are legitimate things

for this type of thing,

832

:

don't just install it.

833

:

Take the time, read the reviews,

make sure there are reviews.

834

:

And it wasn't just

835

:

launched a week ago or something,

because that's another thing to look at.

836

:

All of that kind of stuff.

837

:

And the other thing of it

is, is the basic stuff that we use now

838

:

still works with this.

When you go to a website,

839

:

make sure the padlock is

on the browser and it's Https

840

:

from times.

841

:

The browsers don't always show that

anymore, but the padlock will be there.

842

:

Insecure sites are a bad thing

and most major sites enforce it.

843

:

A lot of browsers

will give you all kinds of warnings

844

:

if it's not secure,

but they all don't do that.

845

:

And sometimes there's ways

to get around that.

846

:

Do you want to do that?

847

:

If you happen to be using a site

that doesn't use HTTP

848

:

or shows the s, I can say that really

849

:

or doesn't

show the padlock, don't enter passwords,

850

:

certainly don't enter credit card numbers,

and probably just don't use the site.

851

:

And if it's a real vendor and it's 2026

and they still have something like that,

852

:

I would call and complain

853

:

because that would be really something

where they're not keeping up with it.

854

:

Now, one of the better

things that you can do is using a VPN,

855

:

and this will solve a lot of problems

because the data is encrypted

856

:

over the VPN,

as long as it's a legitimate VPN.

857

:

ExpressVPN, NordVPN, proton.

858

:

There's a lot of different companies

like that that will put that out there.

859

:

Even Eero the manufacturers, the Wi-Fi

860

:

seven devices by Amazon

has a VPN available on their plus service.

861

:

You do pay for it, but I know Nord for me

is like not a lot of money

862

:

for three years.

I want to say like 40 bucks or something.

863

:

It wasn't expensive.

864

:

And when I travel internationally,

I like to have it too,

865

:

because I can get to things

that would be locked out.

866

:

You know, from that standpoint, if

the VPN is free, you know, free is nice.

867

:

It's not really free.

868

:

You're the product.

869

:

And I would stay away from anything

like that, you know.

870

:

So the other thing that is something

that I really didn't think about.

871

:

And so I started researching

this is turn off the auto reconnect

872

:

or the auto join function

on your phone or public network.

873

:

So your home network, you can have that on

or a secured network at work.

874

:

That's fine.

875

:

But if you're at Starbucks,

don't have that turned on

876

:

because it will auto reconnect

877

:

and you might not know what's doing it,

you might park in the parking lot

878

:

and it picks up the signal,

something like that.

879

:

So we're just wanted to look

for this particular feature, okay.

880

:

The way to get to

it is different on the different phones

881

:

iPhone versus Android

and some androids are different.

882

:

But what you're looking for is your Wi-Fi

settings, oh, Wi-Fi settings.

883

:

Can you get into that?

884

:

And it'll give you a list

of the remembered networks,

885

:

and you can look through it,

and you might be kind of surprised

886

:

at how many are actually in there,

especially now when you get new devices

887

:

and they import the data

from the old ones. So it's not even reset.

888

:

Really keeps that information and delete

anything out of there that you don't need.

889

:

Now, one of the other things to do

is also try to avoid the fake networks.

890

:

We talked about that a little bit earlier,

891

:

but ask a staff member

for the actual name of their Wi-Fi.

892

:

And I actually had this happen once.

893

:

I was at a Starbucks and the network

was Starbucks, so was spelled wrong.

894

:

The actual network was Starbucks

and somebody was actively doing it.

895

:

This was a couple of years ago and I did

turn it in, but that type of thing

896

:

is very easy to do,

especially if you get busy, you know?

897

:

And if you're on a iPhone,

turn off AirDrop

898

:

and on both types of phones, turn off file

sharing and network discovery.

899

:

These options will also be something

that people can get in on.

900

:

One other thing to think about

901

:

when you're on a public Wi-Fi

network is do not use the network.

902

:

If you're

903

:

going to put in financial information,

like logging into your bank account

904

:

or using credit cards,

turn the network off for that point.

905

:

Use the cellular connection,

which will be more secure

906

:

because it's not a thing, and then

you can turn it back on afterwards.

907

:

And finally, like we were alluding to

earlier, keep your phone updated.

908

:

Both operating systems

benefit from that sometimes.

909

:

You can't always get them updates

right away, but you do want to do it.

910

:

And when an update comes

in, don't pause it for two weeks.

911

:

I've been guilty of that myself

because it's like it's not good right now.

912

:

I'll do it later

and then it gets the late.

913

:

Eventually it will force it,

but at the end of the day,

914

:

you do want to get those in there

as quickly as you can.

915

:

And finally,

this isn't just open Wi-Fi networks,

916

:

but it's good advice is set up.

917

:

Multi-factor authentication.

918

:

Boy, this saved us on Facebook

about a year ago.

919

:

I know I've talked about that in the past,

but one of the people that works with us

920

:

got this message from Facebook

that your account is performed

921

:

a crime or something that violated

their policy or whatever it is,

922

:

and you need to go here and appeal it,

or it's going to be deleted at some point.

923

:

So our staff member did,

and the bad guys had set up a very,

924

:

very authentic looking site,

and it caused us to rethink

925

:

our training a little bit more,

because when it got to

926

:

asking for the password,

that should have been a clue.

927

:

It is now.

928

:

But you know, we all learn

even the best people can can get hacked.

929

:

And I started getting all of these texts

that your MFA code is this your MFA code?

930

:

Is this for Facebook?

931

:

And they were trying to go in and get in

and change the password

932

:

and hijack the account,

which is a very common thing to do.

933

:

So, you know, at the end of the day, two

934

:

for even though

sometimes it's a little bit of a pain,

935

:

you can do that.

936

:

And one of the other things is if you

travel a lot, get a personal hotspot.

937

:

Now, I hadn't worked with these before,

938

:

but when we did the robots at the Stem

presentation,

939

:

I needed a network

that when I had the robots

940

:

not on my network at the lab,

they would still work

941

:

and I didn't want to have

to reconfigure them at the school.

942

:

That would have taken too long.

943

:

So I bought this little mini router.

944

:

It was about 40 bucks

and it creates its own network.

945

:

And with that, you can connect it to the

hotspot on your phone for internet access.

946

:

You can connect it to

947

:

a network that you would have

that's Wi-Fi that you know is secure.

948

:

Or you if you don't need the internet

like we did with the robots,

949

:

you can just run it for that.

950

:

But what ends up happening is all of your

devices that are connected to your

951

:

private hotspot or your personal network

952

:

stay connected, and the only place

that you have to make a change

953

:

is on the one unit to go in and tell it's

okay to connect

954

:

to this network or that type of thing,

or just uplink through your phone.

955

:

Most cell phone providers now,

if you're traveling, especially,

956

:

offer unlimited or very inexpensive data

for doing that type of a thing.

957

:

And whatever the cost is, it's

well worth having the extra security. So.

958

:

All right. Have I scared you guys at all?

959

:

Not really.

960

:

I'm concerned, but, you know, that's good.

961

:

Yeah, it's it's stuff to think about.

962

:

And it's unfortunate

because a lot of this attacks

963

:

the features that are in these devices

964

:

that are supposed to make them easier

to use, things like the auto reconnect,

965

:

you know, it's a nice thing

to be able to do.

966

:

And again, if you're on a secure network,

it's fine to use that.

967

:

But a public network, be careful.

968

:

I know Gretchen going to the hospital

was another place

969

:

that you were mentioning

before we started recording,

970

:

where it's an auto reconnect thing.

971

:

And is the hospital network going

to be secure when when you get on it?

972

:

At least when I've seen

that you have to accept the terms.

973

:

Yeah. And it's something.

974

:

But that's not secure in the network.

975

:

That's just securing the terms.

976

:

It's still an open network. Exactly.

977

:

And conditions or not.

978

:

And the other thing of it is, is

979

:

even if it asks for a password

through a browser, when you connect,

980

:

not connecting to the Wi-Fi

and putting in a Wi-Fi

981

:

password, but a password to like, log

in, I've seen that.

982

:

And even those type of things

are still an open network.

983

:

It's just they're securing

so that you can't get free

984

:

access, usually have to pay them,

or to be a member of a program or whatever

985

:

the case may be,

where you can get the password for it.

986

:

So unfortunately,

it is definitely something to where

987

:

maybe it's not as convenient,

but it would be less

988

:

convenient to have to figure out

getting your money back

989

:

and your banking account

and that type of thing. Until next week.

990

:

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