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First Generation Honda Pilot - Affordable Family Adventure Vehicle
Episode 2220th October 2022 • Better Than New • Gary Crenshaw
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00:00 - INTRO - First Generation Honda Pilot - The Affordable Family Adventure Vehicle

01:15 - GENERAL OVERVIEW – What Makes the First Gen Honda Pilot So Great?  

03:55 - YOU MIGHT WANT ONE IF….

  • You routinely need to carry more than 4-people safely and comfortably
  • You have active kids and need to haul a lot of their stuff (or yours)
  • You need all-wheel drive for snowy conditions  
  • You need to tow a boat or trailer up to 4500 pounds (with tow package)
  • You need a versatile, reliable used SUV that can do all that for a reasonable price

05:30 - FIRST GEN HONDA PILOT DETAILS

DRIVETRAIN

  • VTM-4 automatically sends torque to rear wheels in low traction conditions
  • VTM-4 Lock button on dash for added traction in snow/mud
  • Locks rear differential, sending 25% of the power equally to each rear wheel
  • Works only in 1st or 2nd gear (or reverse) and only up to 18-mph
  • 2003-2005 Models were all VTM-4 equipped
  • 2006-2008 models offered either 2WD or 4WD as an option

ENGINE

  • 3.5-Liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with VTEC
  • 2003 models had 240-hp and 242-lb.ft of torque
  • 2005 models got a bump to 255-hp and 250-lb.ft of torque
  • 2006 and later were rated with less horsepower, but that was due to SAE rating changes
  • 2006 and later offered an engine with cylinder deactivation on a 2WD models for better fuel economy

TRANSMISSION

  • A decent shifting 5-speed automatic transmission
  • Old-school column shift lever, takes some getting used to
  • Works fine though.

SUSPENSION

  • 4-wheel independent suspension
  • Coil springs with struts in front
  • Multilink set-up in the rear with coil springs and shocks
  • Comfortable on the highway
  • Corners relatively flat for an SUV of that era. 
  • Decent handling – better than most from that era
  • Not as sporty as the First Gen Acura MDX (2001-2006) 

BRAKES

  • 4-wheel disc brakes
  • ABS standard
  • Decent control and stopping distances
  • Discs warped with heavy use
  • Cryo-treated rotors and upgrade pads solved this issue

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WHEELS

  • Stock wheels are 16-inch diameter with 235/70-16 tires
  • Best upgrade - find a set of 17” wheels from a first gen MDX
  • Similar offset and you can use a lower profile 235/65-17 tires
  • This provides a little better handling
  • Use the stock 16-inch wheels for winter tires

PERFORMANCE/HANDLING

  • Decent Handling – especially for a large SUV
  • Comfortable on the freeway with good steering accuracy
  • Minimal to moderate body roll
  • Zero to 60-mph times of 7.5 to 8.0 seconds
  • Quick for a 4400-lb. SUV from that era. 

13:15 - BASIC PACKAGES

  • Base LX Model includes power windows and locks, cruise control, keyless entry, and a CD stereo
  • EX Model adds a power driver's seat, six-disc CD changer with steering-wheel-mounted controls, and front and rear automatic climate control.
  • Premium EX-L Model adds leather, a power moon roof, and heated seats.
  • Options for EX-L Model’s include DVD entertainment system for rear-seat passengers or a satellite navigation system (they can't be had together) 

INTERIOR

  • Comfortable front bucket seats
  • Seat heating in front on more upscale models
  • Leather available only on the EX-L Models
  • Lots of storage places and cup holders
  • 2003-2005 Pilots have front and side airbags for front row
  • Later 2006-2008 Pilots also have side curtain airbags for all seats

EXTERIOR

  • Styling of the first generation Pilot a little boring, but we liked it.
  • Not a minivan, so extra points for that
  • Headlight output on the 2003-2005 models is only adequate
  • 2006-2008 models had improved projector beam Halogen headlamps & fog lights
  • Not all Pilots have crossbars
  • Towing package was available on the Pilot (up to 4500 lbs) 

17:40 - WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A FIRST GEN PILOT

  • You will want to look for typical used car things
  • Minimal Owners?  Preferably 1 or 2
  • Has it ever been in an accident?
  • Does it have a Salvage or Rebuilt title? 
  • Did the Pilot perform regular service?
  • Does the owner have service records?
  • Any Check Engine Lights? (Bring an OBD II scanner)
  • Any Deferred Maintenance required? (T-belt, brakes, tires, transmission fluid, coolant, etc.)
  • Do electric & mechanical items work? (wipers, AC, heater fan, etc.)
  • Is it rusty? 
  • Does it need paint or bodywork?
  • Ultimately it comes down to condition, which is more important than anything else
  • Recommend an EX or EX-L for more features
  • Recommend models with VTM-4 (all 2003-05 + 2006-08 marked 4WD)

21:00 - COMMON ISSUES

These are pretty reliable vehicles that don’t have a lot of issues other than what is typical for high-mile used SUV’s. That said, here is a short list of common issues to look for:

  • Takata airbag recall
  • Brakes are weak (cryo-treated rotors & good pads can fix that)
  • Power steering pumps eventually fail
  • Transmissions in early Pilots are prone to issues
  • Radiator replacement after 100K miles is common
  • 105K Timing Belt Change (confirm it has been completed)
  • Lower Control Arms will wear out
  • Check shocks and other suspension components if over 100K miles
  • HVAC Air Blend Actuator can fail (won't properly mix hot/cold air)

23:45 - PRICING of First Gen Pilots for sale by owners:

  • $4,000 to $6,000 – Okay condition, a few minor issues, but high mileage. 
  • $6,000 to $8,000 – Good condition with low to mid mileage of 100K to 150K
  • $8,000 to $10,000 – The best examples (1-owner, low miles, recent maintenance – all the good stuff) 

27:40 - WRAP-UP EPISODE

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