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[00:00:24] Eric Goranson: That has to be a hood that that's outside. Yep. I could still go into a home center.

[00:00:31] Eric Goranson: what? Recirculating mode is about as smart as a recirculating

[00:00:42] Dave Jones: Yeah. And that's your best option. Make sure you're changing that filter. Make sure you're, you're treating that right, but then find another way to ventilate the house when it comes to remodeling and renovating your home. There is a lot to know though. We've got you covered. This is around the house.

[00:00:58] Eric Goranson: to the Round the House Show. This is where. [00:01:00] About everything about your home every single week. Thanks for joining us today. I am still down here in Las Vegas at the Design and Construction Week. This is a combination of the International Builder Show, kitchen and Bath Industry show, and even this year, the National Hardware Show.

[00:01:32] Eric Goranson: Thanks. Thanks

[00:01:34] Eric Goranson: guys again are

[00:01:46] Dave Jones: Yeah. It's been in the news for years now and I mean, just the other day we had another big news splash, and you can be on any side of the fence on that you want to, but holy cow. Let's unpack everywhere. Let's, let's do it. Let's, let's unpack it. We're

[00:01:59] Eric Goranson: You know, [00:02:00] the gas range ban, and I'm using air quotes that nobody can see right now. Yeah. Is one of those things that, um, really got me fired. Because I'm like, okay, and you probably feel the same way. Yeah. But I look at it and go, we have a ventilation issue. Yes. This is not just a gas range issue. Correct.

[00:02:26] Dave Jones: coming up in your air. Yeah. Well, a hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, anything you cook on your gas range, on your electric range, you could have a wood burning range.

[00:02:46] Dave Jones: Without that, that range hood getting that out, you're gonna run into a lot of problems. So we don't care. Oh, like use whatever range you like what? Wherever you. Keep it. Use it. Right. We

[00:03:04] Eric Goranson: It's awesome. But that's really not healthy. It's kinda like new, new car smell, right? Yes. You go, oh, this is great.

[00:03:22] Dave Jones: I don't know if, if your listeners know who Christoph Irwin is. Uh, he's, he's based in Atlanta and he's got the, um, anyway, brilliant guy. Uh, and he, and now were talking about it and he said, yeah, e e, good smells, bad smells. It doesn't matter. Ace. Smell is a sign that there's something in your air that shouldn't be there.

[00:03:49] Eric Goranson: Okay. Sure. I mean, if they're in front of you, you're smell 'em the spot you're getting ready to consume it.

[00:03:54] Eric Goranson: that's the thing. And it's, it's such a misconception out there. Yeah. And I mean, We have legislation [00:04:00] issues out there in certain states. Sure. Because my personal belief is that every house should have a working ventilation

[00:04:07] Eric Goranson: building. Yes. And I don't understand that even in my state where they, if I do a rebuttal and I pull a building permit, guess what?

[00:04:18] Dave Jones: buy, and they'll, they'll, Hey, don't,

[00:04:26] Dave Jones: toilet . You're not getting anywhere.

[00:04:42] Dave Jones: Yeah. A hood. Out. I get it. Sometimes you can't do it. Make sure you have something else. Run your bath fan. Right. We don't think about that. Small apartments. Oh yeah. Like usually a small apartment's not gonna have the vented range hood. It's gonna have a recirculating, but run your bath fan, that's gonna be ventilated out code requires that everywhere.

[00:05:08] Eric Goranson: Absolutely. And Bath Ends are a great example of that because I use a ventilation of my house cuz that's one of my next steps is uh, and I just created my own, uh, fresh air intake problem at my house cuz.

[00:05:36] Eric Goranson: You sure did.

[00:05:49] Eric Goranson: right now I haven't done that yet, so I'm not sure yet.

[00:06:07] Eric Goranson: Um, and there's other places in the house,

[00:06:19] Dave Jones: Where do you dump that in? We're, we're trying to work on that too. Cause that's, it's a challenge. That's, that's a big challenge. So I'm interested to, to hear about what people are doing with it. And then my house is

[00:06:33] Eric Goranson: Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that's, that's hundred basketballs going out the building, that's a lot of air. Where's it coming

[00:06:40] Eric Goranson: Luckily I don't have any other gas burning. I don't have like a gas, uh, you know, a gas water heater or something that I'm pulling in.

[00:06:47] Eric Goranson: Okay. I'm not Yep.

[00:06:54] Dave Jones: doing for, uh, for fresh air? Do you run an ERV in your house or not yet rv? Not yet. Not yet. Oh, I heard it yet in there. Yeah. It's [00:07:00] going to be happening, so it's good.

[00:07:03] Eric Goranson: later. All right. Good. But let's talk about ERVs for a minute. Okay. Because my biggest problem that I had

[00:07:10] Eric Goranson: And one, I hadn't really designed it out yet. It's always one of the things that, okay, that's the next step. Yep. But my biggest problem that I didn't like about 'em is I'm in wildfire country.

[00:07:31] Dave Jones: off today? Yeah, no, I totally get it.

[00:07:36] Eric Goranson: Cause

[00:07:52] Dave Jones: We won the, um, best indoor product of the entire show for our Overture system, which Oh, manages its problem. So let's jump into that. [00:08:00] Let's jump into that. All right. All right. Okay. So Overture is a system of, you know, it's an automated indoor air quality system. Yeah. And it's a bunch of switches and sensors that go around your house.

[00:08:22] Dave Jones: Yeah. And then they tell you, okay, great. Go open your window. But you just told me your problem was there's a forest fire outside. Yeah. I'm not opening my window. Right. Of course not. So what, what's your, what's your solution for that? So what we've done is we've designed the system to work with our fresh air systems to say, wait.

[00:08:49] Dave Jones: There's enough air in the home. We're not gonna suffocate overnight. Yep. Like we got some time. The system will run and it'll still exhaust things as it needs to, and then it'll bring that fresh air in when the air quality is better.

[00:09:03] Eric Goranson: You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's where I was like, I'm just not that consistent to trust myself to go, okay, I'm gonna have to manually manage this well,

[00:09:19] Dave Jones: Half the times. Right. Or the range hood always let me be clear. Every time you're in there, turn it on, leave it run for 20 minutes when you're done cooking or in the shower, whatever it is. But anyway, we don't want to think about it. I don't want to think about it. It's just another thing in my day to worry about automated over.

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[00:09:48] Eric Goranson: Yeah. Yeah. And then that will also work with Bath fans

[00:10:02] Dave Jones: And some people like that. Right. I know you've got a steam shower. Yeah. That's great. Like it's a what a good feeling to just kind of have that warmth envelop you and you just feel really good. But where does that moisture go? Right. And,

[00:10:18] Eric Goranson: What do we bring home? Julie and I bring home Covid from that. Yeah, of course, of course. Cuz we're down with 75 of our closest friends. Right. In a trade show. Right. So those things happened back then. Yep. Now we don't have to worry as much about that, but as we did that, we got home that steam shower, I was taking like two steams and three steams a day.

[00:10:51] Eric Goranson: It dried out. But where does that moisture go? Still got somewhere else outside that envelope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's in the

[00:11:05] Dave Jones: Yeah. Right. Just make sure you're ventilating and you know that, right? Yeah. But not everybody thinks about it. Right. We love that feeling. The, the fog near means like, oh, it was warm and it was nice, but man that's causing, Black mold to grow in your walls. You can't even see it. People don't know it. It's almost scary.

[00:11:29] Eric Goranson: what I did on my showers, I designed it so I have a transom over that moves the pivots smart.

[00:11:39] Dave Jones: right outta there. Yes, Al actually you know what you should put, uh, you should put Overture in and you should put a humidity sensing fan in. Yes. Because it will automatically sense right there at its location specifically cuz it's the room sensor might be in an outlet or hardwired somewhere nearby.

[00:11:56] Eric Goranson: Because if that fan's working, If the, if that steam [00:12:00] up there and that humidity, right? Yep. If I have it over in the wall where it comes in, right, that I have to bring a lot of humidity in for that, at that location to go, Hey, there, it's gonna go,

[00:12:11] Dave Jones: We call a sea spot ventilation, right? A range hood, a bath fan, a spot ventilation. And when we get another story on that one, Uh, I've got a daughter that's a year and a half old. Yeah. So we have diapers on that. A diaper pale, right? Oh, yeah. Which is awful and terrible and smelly. Yeah. Um, so spot ventilation isn't just for bathrooms, it's not just for your kitchen.

[00:12:42] Dave Jones: It's a, uh, it's a recess light. Okay. So it looks like a recess light, so you can put it in any room. In a home where you may not normally have ventilation, you wouldn't want the traditional bath fan. Look, I get it. Totally get it. It's not sexy, right? Yeah, it's not sexy at all. Right? Unless you've got one of those old chrome ones that you were talking about and you're, you know, 1970s.

[00:13:06] Eric Goranson: The kids' bedroom, the teenager's bedroom. Oh, don't, oh my gosh. Right. I'm not ready. I'm not ready.

[00:13:20] Dave Jones: but at least you can ventilate it. You can ventilate it. Yeah. You can get rid of all of those odors at grossness.

[00:13:35] Eric Goranson: Smell. Oh, it is a sponge.

[00:13:46] Dave Jones: An l e d light. Yep. That kills mold, mildew, viruses, bacteria, yeast, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It's not uv. So it's not gonna harm anything. You're not yellowing stuff. Not yellowing stuff. You're not eroding your, uh, your caulk in your shower. Yeah. [00:14:00] Whatever it is. Or in the bathroom. So, uh, they put that in their mudroom to kill off a lot of those odors and to ventilate.

[00:14:14] Eric Goranson: here and you guys have to share it up later on social media. But Julie and I go walking.

[00:14:33] Dave Jones: That's, uh, that's, that's a little bit of steam on those.

[00:14:36] Eric Goranson: water running down the inside of all of those glass doors.

[00:14:43] Eric Goranson: Yeah. No brand new house. You can see it's brand new. Yikes. But it's not raining outside. Yikes. It's not. It's dry. It's dry. So that's scary garage for us in the Pacific Northwest when you have a brand new home that, that is a house that they tore down this last year.

[00:15:01] Dave Jones: And you've gotta

[00:15:05] Dave Jones: And that's an empty garage. I bet you it's, uh, I wonder if it's a condition space or it's at least gotta be finished. It's finished.

[00:15:14] Eric Goranson: But it can't be conditioned because if Oh true. It's being a garage, right? Yeah. Yeah. All of a sudden, if you take the car in there. Oh, I didn't see any other, I mean, it could be conditioned if you had your. System in there. Like you had a Oh, sure. A mini split or something. Oh yeah. They of course didn't do that.

[00:15:47] Dave Jones: Totally. Oh, totally. Well, and and if your house isn't, hopefully it is, but if it's not, it doesn't have a fresh air system, it's not pressurized. You open that garage door and all that moisture and all that mold and whatever is floating in the air is floating right into your kitchen or whatever it is.

[00:16:01] Eric Goranson: Nature's always trying to balance things out. Sure is. So if you've got the dryer and the moisture, Boom. It's

[00:16:15] Dave Jones: So if you don't have a finished space or you're able to put one in, we've got solar powered so you can sort of do your passive home if that's what you're looking for, whatever it is. So we have a way to mechanically ventilate and then we've got like in wall or through wall fans that really helped ventilate that.

[00:16:44] Dave Jones: He had a, a finished space brought, brought the car in. It was full of snow from a, a sunny snow day that was all starting to melt. And, uh, as it melted, it was running out of the garage as it should. It froze his garage. To the ground. Oh yeah, yeah, of course. I did all that drip again. I [00:17:00] was like, oh, I wonder if that's the same problem.

[00:17:16] Dave Jones: And now we have fans that can work in that space to ventilate and let's be real. It's not just moisture. Most people store their garbage and recycling and gas and oil and paint and all these things that are horrible. That'd come into your house. Oh,

[00:17:36] Eric Goranson: And that was its own show talking about the bad things in Eric's garage. Yeah, yeah. You know, now they're outside in the, in my carport on a shelf. But it was one of those things that

[00:17:50] Eric Goranson: freeze.

[00:17:57] Dave Jones: need to think about it. Cuz like I said, it comes, it comes right in. You open [00:18:00] that door, it comes right in, right? I see. So we gotta think about that. So yes, ventilating a garage I think is a really cool idea.

[00:18:22] Dave Jones: Yeah. You want a little more air going out than would be coming in and if there's anywhere that it can come out or in Right. If you don't have a fully sealed passive home. Yeah. Boy, someday

[00:18:43] Eric Goranson: But it's, it's literally, you know, I got what's my, uh, weather resistant barrier 30

[00:18:53] Eric Goranson: those things that people don't think about. No, no. And you don't want to pull out next year's Christmas stuff or holiday stuff, and [00:19:00] all of a sudden you're like, wow, this, uh, this white thing that goes around the bottom of the tree's got a lot of black spots on it.

[00:19:11] Dave Jones: right? Yeah. You can't see a lot of these contaminants. No, you totally can't. Oh, man. You bring up a good point. Uh, basements. Oh, yes. Right. So let's talk about that, uh, dehumidifiers, right? And, and making sure you've got fresh air in your basement.

[00:19:35] Dave Jones: Right. Yeah. If you, if you don't have the right drainage outside, I can't help you there. But like, if you don't have the right drainage, you could have mold growing your basement. You could have water leaking in. I've got the, uh, mineral crystals growing on one of my walls. Yep. Previous owners put in a nice patio and did not pitch it far enough.

[00:20:08] Eric Goranson: I can't tell you how many times I was working for a while there helping out a, a. An advertiser years ago on the show. And, uh, they had, uh, a basement, you know, foundation company. Okay. So they did basement waterproofing and stuff like that? Yep. I can't tell you how many places I went into. Maybe it was a lawyer's office and they had the basement of the 1920s house and that's where all the file boxes were.

[00:20:45] Eric Goranson: Right? But it was the same kind of thing. Yeah, that was a humidity issue because it was even across the entire wall,

[00:21:00] Dave Jones: All the time. Right? Unless you live in the desert and even then there's still moisture down there. So yeah. I think it

[00:21:09] Dave Jones: issue that you're not aware of. Oh, yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent. She's pretty smart.

[00:21:29] Dave Jones: We have something go in wall to get about multi-family and things like that. Maybe you have a condo and, and you're able to do that. It just goes right into your two by four, like construction and you've got humanification. We. Uh, uh, my colleague, uh, my colleague Travis, wow, I can talk today, uh, manages all that stuff and, and he and I were talking and he said, Hey, do you know what shoulder season is?

[00:22:00] Dave Jones: Like that's a really good idea. And I, you, you and I have probably somewhat similar, uh, weather. We might get a little colder than you. Yeah. But there's a lot of humidity. It's, the temperatures are perfect, but a lot of humidity in those seasons. Yeah. That whole dehumidifier. We'll fix that problem. And I think it brings up a point too, that I learned this year, this last year, uh, your air conditioner does not, is not a dehumidifier.

[00:22:24] Eric Goranson: for. And I learned this actually this last year and some of the seminars I was teaching cuz I had other experts on there as well. Yeah. Is that, you know, like in Florida and some of these other really hot places, that AC unit might only last you.

[00:22:48] Eric Goranson: Yes. Cause it's trying to shed all that moisture. Yep. And you've got now a, a less efficient system. Yep. As just trying

[00:23:05] Dave Jones: Well if you had just put it a dehumidifier, you'd have managed your moisture. Right? And you could have downsized that system. And they're not cheap. Right? Yeah. So, uh, I think that's a really good point. And, uh, I think an er B helps solve some of that too seriously. Right. Cuz there can be some moisture removal there.

[00:23:27] Eric Goranson: I don't, I don't Do you have too much moisture all year? I usually Too much moisture.

[00:23:44] Eric Goranson: I like it. And uh, and, but here's the one thing I realized, oh, this was my mistake. Yeah. Because out in the hallway out there, I've got a really nice smoke detector. Oh no. That smoke detector. I'm sitting there and I turn the steam on, I run over here to get something real quick, and all of a sudden the smoke detectors going off.

[00:24:05] Dave Jones: myself. It was just, you know, I'm like, go ahead. Hey, that does steam too. Good to know. You know? Oh, that's good deal. Wow. Yeah, no, I think, uh, I think that mo moisture mitigation, uh, in your home, that humidity is just, it's a huge deal.

[00:24:34] Dave Jones: 68 and and 80% of humidity, and it's gonna feel gross.

[00:24:53] Eric Goranson: Yep. And that's the

[00:25:11] Dave Jones: Yeah. Cause my air is dry or too warm or whatever. It's too

[00:25:28] Eric Goranson: Oh, sure. That have humidity. Yeah. Because you can go down and put that sensor in that corner of the garage. Yeah. Or that corner of the basement. Yep. Or wherever else. And then you can look at it and go, wow,

[00:25:41] Dave Jones: Just thinking about that as you're saying that. You can put an overture sensor in, in every corner of your house, every room of your house. All you did was just put the sensors in, at least know what's going on in your home. Right? Like, understand what's happening. Understand. Okay. I'm gonna go moisture now as you should

[00:26:11] Dave Jones: But if you see those floaties, that could be pet dander floating around. Oh yeah. Right. The sensors will pick that up and say, Hey, not only do you have a moisture problem, but you've got stuff floating your air. You've got new carpet that's emitting VOCs. Right. So exactly know what's going on in your home.

[00:26:42] Eric Goranson: Oh yeah.

[00:26:44] Eric Goranson: but it's they creating that hydrogen peroxide particle. Uh, Julie was trying to bake bread and the yeast wouldn't rise in the house. Oh, interesting. She's like, I keep throwing yeast away. What's going on? And all of a sudden the second time that happened, I went, let's go out and do it in the outdoor kitchen and see what happens.

[00:27:12] Dave Jones: that. Yeah. If I can't cook, yeah. Then that's not an issue.

[00:27:28] Dave Jones: I don't think we think about enough. 8% of people use their range hoods. Right? Like that's crazy low, isn't it? Number right? And And that's the stuff that's floating on in our air. Yeah. There's all kinds of craziness and it's going to affect your cooking. If you've got kinds of junk in your air, your food might taste different.

[00:27:45] Eric Goranson: Who like walking in the. Two hours later after you like had salmon or something. Yeah. Smell or you had some fish and, you know, uh, catfish tonight or whatever. Yeah. And you're like, man, it still smells like fish. And I took the trash out

[00:27:56] Dave Jones: Yeah, I know. That means you've got that ventilation. That means you've got that ventilation. Yeah. You, yeah. It's, [00:28:00] it's, it's a huge deal. I, I think, um, I think we really need as a country and, and as homeowners to like, to focus on it and think about it cuz it, it matters. Uh, there's a lot of science out there around how it affects health, how it affects our.

[00:28:32] Dave Jones: Mechanical methylation. Putting in a system that can actually do it for you will make you feel. I don't care about the science. So if you're not worried about your health and you have perfect health, yeah. And you don't have asthma, whatever, it's, that's fine. But your wellness, your wellbeing, the way you feel every day and your house is cleaner too.

[00:28:47] Eric Goranson: goodness, right? Gone. You're dusting and you're like, oh my gosh, this house is always dusty. Guess what? That's

[00:28:58] Dave Jones: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:29:12] Eric Goranson: And I have a little robotic vacuum. That's one of the, the LG ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That I go on. I send it out once a day and it grabs dog hair. Yep. And it's not perfect, but it's a good start.

[00:29:31] Dave Jones: That's got the infrared sensor. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Let's talk

[00:29:42] Dave Jones: know, it's just what it is. I get it. I mean, it's a small space to move a lot of air. I get it.

[00:29:46] Eric Goranson: get it. But this one shakes and rattles a little bit. Okay. But you know what I mean. It's one of those, you have one that is nearly silent over there. You hear air moving and.

[00:30:00] Dave Jones: You shouldn't have to worry about it. Mm-hmm. we talked about earlier. So this range hood has built into it an infrared sensor. It'll sense the heat coming off your cooktop. Doesn't matter what you got. What kind of cooktop? Gas, wood. I don't care. Uh, I don't know if you, nuclear can't get nuclear range. I don't think.

[00:30:28] Dave Jones: You're on low heat, right? Yeah. You don't need it high. It'll only turn onto low. You won't hear it. It's so quiet on its low speed. You won't even know it's on. It'll ramp up to high when you need it, but at that point in time you're probably banging pots and pans and stir and stuff. Anyway, it's a little bit of noise.

[00:30:52] Dave Jones: Yeah. This thing will automatically ramp itself down and then turn off. You don't have to touch it. And I got a, a little daughter, she's only 18 months old now, year and a half. I'm gonna say year and a [00:31:00] half. Cause I hate the whole month thing. I know. All right. You're good. I'm gonna have her cooking with me pretty soon when she starts to cook with me.

[00:31:21] Dave Jones: And Gary's seen these foundation. Shout out to both those guys. No man. Talk about.

[00:31:30] Dave Jones: dude's a saint. He's doing so much to get the word out. I love it. They, they, uh, they do a ton of great PR work, a ton of work around that.

[00:31:51] Dave Jones: It's so they don't have to touch it. We're giving them the overture system so they don't have, have to worry about anything. They don't have to remember, you know what, they got enough on their mind with medical stuff. They've done stuff and

[00:32:01] Dave Jones: easy by? Right.

[00:32:05] Eric Goranson: That's, we lied. It's something that we gotta celebrate. Yeah. Cause that's, I'd love to see companies stepping up for those things because that's, that's what needs to

[00:32:13] Dave Jones: They served us. We, we need to serve them whenever we can. So we're there. So yeah. But Tuck and Ranger,

[00:32:26] Dave Jones: You know, even if they do ventilate out, they don't cover enough of the range.

[00:32:32] Eric Goranson: yeah. And there's no capture area to it cuz it's, it's like a, it's tiny. It's just like this eight inch part of the vent in there. That's all you get and there's no capture area to it. Yep. And they just don't work. And I have to lean across a, a hot stove to put something in.

[00:32:54] Dave Jones: out of a top shelf for the cabinet isn't the smartest thing to be doing every day. Not smart at all. No, I'm with you. How, how's that?

[00:33:05] Eric Goranson: It's two of 'em. Chris . No, no,

[00:33:15] Dave Jones: Yes. That's big and it's not considered getting a new one. Something that does come out far enough to capture off the front, because there's a lot that escapes it. You can't see, you can't see the things in air. That's, that's the problem with indoor air quality. We can't see it. I can see if I have dirty water for the most part.

[00:33:44] Dave Jones: Right. We know it. But we have to eat. We have to cook. So we're gonna continue to do it. Make sure you ventilate. Yes. It's, it's an equally, uh, horrible issue. Uh, I bring it up, but it, you eat us all. But it's so easy. But that's the thing.

[00:34:02] Eric Goranson: Yeah. This is, Hey, I have a solution that's fairly easy. Someone can install it. Yep. And then it's just gonna keep

[00:34:17] Dave Jones: Yeah. Go and listen. They should be able to turn 'em on for you. Yeah. And ask about it. How can I get a quieter arrange? What do I need to do to make it quieter? Maybe it doesn't need to run it full power all the time. Sure. That's why these automated hoods are so great cuz it, it'll run what it needs to run.

[00:34:31] Eric Goranson: Like go for it. Yeah. As a kitchen designer, I've seen a trend too, and I just wanna mention this. Yeah. There are so many people out there that'll go and buy the off. Like wood hoods with inserts. Yeah. But the problem is, is that fire code says that that liner that is over that has to cover the cooking surface of the range.

[00:34:58] Dave Jones: outside. That's really good idea. Or [00:35:00] if you're working with a designer, make sure you're asking it. They should know, but make sure you're asking 'em. Make sure that you're involved in that because.

[00:35:10] Eric Goranson: Yeah. Clean your vent. Oh my gosh. Right. Sorry. No, no. That's a great example. When was the last time you cleared the vent? Did you clean that up there and people go, you're to clean it? Yeah. I, I can't say how many people I built luxury kitchens for.

[00:35:34] Eric Goranson: And they look at you in horror and go, what? What? Yeah. What? I know I told you this when we did this. Yeah. But you had so much in your mind. Yeah. You were looking at those beautiful counters

[00:35:48] Dave Jones: Let's see. So it's super easy, right? This isn't complicated. We're trying to make it super easy cause we want people to use it. We, we really, truly believe that you'll have a better life. Our, our mission is better air, better life. We believe you will have a [00:36:00] better life if you're taking care of your indoor

[00:36:01] Eric Goranson: Amen. Amen. Now we, we gotta talk about your upgrades. Yeah. To range hoods because, There are millions of people out there Yep. That look up and go, okay, I got the builder. Basic range. Hood. It's Bath, fan Bath, bath fan. Sorry. Thank you. No, you're good. Bath fan. And you look up there and go, okay. I know that's, that's the builder special brand.

[00:36:21] Dave Jones: used. It works for, it does what it needs to 40 years, right? Yeah. Yep. But

[00:36:28] Dave Jones: really sexy and they're probably dirty. You probably have buildup of like, you know, toilet paper fuzz and towel fuzz, and god knows what else up

[00:36:35] Eric Goranson: Yeah. Yeah. When was the last time you cleaned that out? Uh, you never, you clean it .

[00:36:50] Dave Jones: But it's really hard to pull down and get. Slot. I know it is. It's horrible. We're working on a better solution for that. We got your backs in the meantime. Don't worry, you're not gonna [00:37:00] break it. If you do, I've got a solution. If you need to change it out, you want to change it out or you broke it, I got a solution.

[00:37:22] Dave Jones: See?

[00:37:35] Eric Goranson: Yeah. And I understand that. And maybe you can't afford to have the professional come out and do it. Yeah. Yeah. This is a great, I don't wanna use the word bandaid, but it's gonna get. An upgrade. Yeah. To get to the next level. Yes. You really kind of want to have Yeah. But this will really help you take that next

[00:37:49] Dave Jones: I think a lot to make it better. Aren't using it cuz they don't like it. It's ugly, it's loud. Uh, we didn't talk about it, but we have a motor upgrade. We call it a quick kit upgrade. Nice. You can replace the actual motor, so it'll go [00:38:00] from. Mo more. Most people have a 50 cfm. Yeah. Is probably underpowered.

[00:38:17] Dave Jones: That is a, that pops out. There's not even a screw. There's no, there's no. You need a screwdriver only just to like bend a little metal tab and that's it. Yeah. And then it pops out. It's a little plug, a regular outlet plug, and you just pop a new one in and now you've got a quieter fan. It'll have 80 cfm, it'll be like 30% quieter.

[00:38:47] Dave Jones: And then when you, when you decide that you really want to do something, Then call your guy up and say, Hey, I want that bacteria killing fan. Exactly. Or that Surface Shield. Put that in my basket, please. Yeah, absolutely. Or I

[00:38:59] Dave Jones: stuff.

[00:39:03] Eric Goranson: more shampoo, which happens. You can go, Hey, play around the house with Eric G on there. Right

[00:39:11] Dave Jones: Yeah. Well, at least on my head. You've got a,

[00:39:18] Dave Jones: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta shampoo that. Yeah. So anyway. No, it's a great, it's a great option. There's a ton out there. We even make a, the recess light so we can put a light in.

[00:39:38] Dave Jones: I got a podcast coming out too that's gonna talk just about indoor air quality. Come check that out. We have ideas for you. That's gonna

[00:39:51] Eric Goranson: Yeah. And especially with with Fresh air systems, you have a lot to talk about here with that. And that's really one of the things I want people to really get out of this. Yep. [00:40:00] Today is ventilation and dealing with that fresh air in your home. Getting it in there. Yep. And getting it where you can control it.

[00:40:19] Eric Goranson: I love it. Let's keep it going. And I'm looking forward to next year. Yeah. Cause you, every year you guys do something a little bit. Yeah. New. Interesting. And I tell you what, it just keeps expanding. And last year Overture was brand new. Yeah. And now you've what? Well, you actually, let's talk about that for a second.

[00:40:35] Dave Jones: right? Yeah. So we've got a hardwired version of it that will now, um, that you can put in any place in your house. You can hardwire it in and it'll sense for everything going on in your home. So put it in every room, put it all over the place, know what's going on in your home.

[00:40:54] Eric Goranson: Congrats. Thanks. That is awesome. I appreciate it. That's something I'm proud of. Yeah, that's very, yeah, we're super happy. This is not just a little tiny show. No,

[00:41:01] Eric Goranson: show floor. Yeah. I mean, there is literally miles of show floor here and the biggest and the bastard here.

[00:41:07] Dave Jones: take home. Yeah. That's pretty essential. That's the show. Yeah. All right. Love it brother. Thanks for coming on today. Yeah, thanks. All right. I'm Eric G.