Today, we’re focusing on being on the same page as your coparent with limits and consequences.
You’ll Learn:
Our goal with a feelings-first parenting model is to hold our kids accountable in a calm, mutually respectful way. We want to help them to regulate their emotions and take responsibility for their actions without lashing out, hurting or shaming our kids.
But what can you do when you and your coparent don’t handle limits and consequences the same way?
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In last week’s episode, we talked about what it means to be on the same page as your coparent, particularly when it comes to self-regulation and connection with your kids. Today, we’re focusing on being on the same page with limits and consequences.
Our goal with a feelings-first parenting model is to hold our kids accountable in a calm, mutually respectful way. We want to help them to regulate their emotions and take responsibility for their actions without lashing out, hurting or shaming our kids.
But what can you do when you and your coparent don’t handle limits and consequences the same way?
You and your coparent will fall into one of three scenarios. Based on your situation, there are different conversations, approaches and tools you can use to guide your parenting.
Once you’ve determined that you’re on the same page with your parenting values, goals and approach, you also have to figure out how you’ll stay on the same page.
Getting on the same page. The first step here is talking about your values as parents, which you can learn more about in last week’s episode. Next, talk about what happens if you notice that your kids are off track, especially if you find yourself arguing about the behavior.
When you notice off track behavior, have a connection conversation about the pattern that you’ve seen. It’s really important that neither of you are judging or getting defensive in this conversation. Lean into curiosity - What do you think is going on? Why do you think they’re acting this way? What’s happening underneath? What do they need?
You might realize that this is more of an emotional issue. Maybe your child needs some more skills around managing their feelings or there is an emotional need that isn’t being met. A lot of times if you meet the emotional need of a behavior, you can kind of the behavior lessens. You might also find that you need to set a limit around the behavior.
Staying on the same page. What will you do when your coparent gets off track? I recommend that, as long as the coparent isn't being explosive or hurtful, you let it play out. Be a compassionate witness, notice what’s going on with your coparent and with your kid and get curious about why.
Then, later on when everyone is calm, talk to your coparent about what happened. Again, you aren’t bringing it up to criticize or blame. The goal is to evaluate, problem solve and troubleshoot. Go through the steps of the Calm Mama Process (Calm, Connect, Limit Set, Correct) and pinpoint where the issue was and how you can solve for it.
These conversations are what help you do the fine-tuning to move you closer to your parenting goal of raising emotionally healthy, personally responsible kids.
Your coparent may not be on board. In this case, it’s important to remember that each person is in an individual relationship with another person. Your relationship with your kid might be very different from the relationship they have with their other parent.
Ultimately, we all want to have a good relationship with our kids. We want our kids to grow up and like us. Strict, firm, authoritarian parenting (the way most of us were raised) tends to lead to emotional disconnection. The child grows up feeling like their parent cares more about what they do than who they are.
Start by asking your coparent, “What do you want your future relationship with our kid to look like?” It’s a good way to get them thinking and open up conversation about connection.
It’s also possible that you won’t come to an agreement on this. And that’s on them. They get to make a choice about how they interact and the relationship they’re creating.
If you’re not on the same page with the parenting approach, and you’re each doing your own thing, then you each have to take responsibility for the way you want to parent, and follow through on it.
It doesn’t mean that your kid is messed up forever. You can still emotionally coach them, set limits, follow through on consequences and teach them how to be in a connection relationship with you.
In this scenario, you may or may not be on the same page with parenting values and approach. And when it comes down to it, you don’t have control over what’s happening when your kid is at their other parent’s house. It might be really hard, but it’s okay.
You get to choose the way you interact and your relationship with your kid, and so do they. It only takes one person to teach them the skills for emotional health.
A common situation I see come up is when one parent is being harsh or punitive with consequences and expecting the other parent to follow through on them.
For example, your coparent says, “If you don’t listen to Mommy, you can’t watch TV all week,” but you’re the one who’s home in the afternoon and has the kids watch TV so you can cook dinner.
You don’t want there to be no follow-through at all, because the kids will see that there is no consequence to the behavior, and you don’t want to have to change your plans or rhythm for something your coparent said.
This can be hard, but you need to communicate clearly with your coparent that if they set a limit and consequence that the follow-through is on them.
It’s okay for you to let your coparent know that you’re not on board. It might sound like, “It is okay for you to set up consequences in this family that you can follow through on. It's not okay for you to set consequences that I then have to follow through on. That doesn't work for me. I don't agree with this consequence. I don't agree with how you handled it, and I'm not going to follow-up on it. You need to find a consequence that you can enforce when you're around.”
When you’re on different pages, make a plan privately of how you’re going to work through it. You still want to present an aligned approach to the kids. No pitting one parent against the other.
Whatever parenting scenario you fall into, I want to normalize for you that not every moment with your coparent will feel good. They’ll get off track sometimes, and so will you.
You don’t have to have a million conversations, but make it intentional when you do. When something doesn’t feel right, sit with it, think about it and bring it up in a really focused, specific way.
Ultimately, we all have agency in how we parent our kids. Each parent gets to choose how they behave with their kid. Each parent can set boundaries and limits the way they want to, but the follow-through is also on them. Each parent has to take responsibility for how they parent and the relationship they create with their child.
You can commit to emotionally coaching your kid, giving them tools to manage their emotions in healthy ways, setting boundaries and following through without shame. Your coparent does not need to make the same commitments for it to work.
When you keep your commitments, your kid benefits. You’re moving forward, even if your coparent isn’t on the same page. So trust yourself, trust your kid, and keep going.
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Welcome back to become a calm mama. I'm your host,
Speaker:A Darlynn Childress. I'm a life and parenting coach.
Speaker:And last week I did an episode about being on the
Speaker:same page a we talked about how your co
Speaker:parent may not be able to emotionally regulate. They
Speaker:might be explosive. And I gave you some strategies of how to
Speaker:handle that or strategies around if your
Speaker:co parent isn't open to emotionally coaching your kids
Speaker:and, you know, approaching
Speaker:parenting from that behavior first. I'm sorry. Feelings first model
Speaker:and behavior second mama. And gave you some
Speaker:strategies of how to talk about that, how to, like, have conversations with your
Speaker:co a, and just decide, like, are you on the same page?
Speaker:And so I really kinda wanna revisit that for just a second before
Speaker:we get into how to handle it if our if your co parent doesn't
Speaker:follow through on limits and consequences in the same way that you
Speaker:would do it, the way that you would handle it. Maybe they're more shameful.
Speaker:Maybe they're more punitive. Maybe they're more permissive than you,
Speaker:and, you know, you're not sure how to handle that. So that's what this episode
Speaker:is all about. But before we get too deep into it, I just wanna
Speaker:remind you that having a conversation
Speaker:with your co parent about your parenting approach or your
Speaker:parenting style is really important. And
Speaker:going back to, you know, talking to them and just asking them, you
Speaker:know, hey, do we agree that
Speaker:feelings matter? Do we agree that we aren't going to
Speaker:use shame or fear or pain
Speaker:to manage our kids' misbehavior. And a
Speaker:lot of times I find that if you talk
Speaker:to someone about this, they will say, well, of course of course, I don't
Speaker:wanna use shame. Of course, I don't wanna use pain. Of course, I don't wanna
Speaker:use fear. Or they'll be like, oh, of course, I think feelings matter.
Speaker:Or maybe they don't. But most of the time people will say, you know, your
Speaker:co parent will say, yes. Of course. Of course. And then you go, okay. So
Speaker:we are in agreement, and now let's talk about how we're gonna
Speaker:approach how what, you know, strategies we're gonna use
Speaker:to parent our kids. So I just
Speaker:really important to have a conversation to figure out, are we
Speaker:on the same page in terms of our philosophy?
Speaker:And if we are, great, then you have a foundation
Speaker:to have conversations about, you know, whether you live
Speaker:with your co parent or not. Like, if this is a,
Speaker:divorce situation or where you, you know, you don't live together anymore,
Speaker:you're not in a romantic partnership anymore, and or maybe
Speaker:you never were. I don't know. But, you know, you're not together, but you still
Speaker:have kids together. So you are able
Speaker:to have the conversation with that other co parent
Speaker:regardless of whether you live together or not. Now, of course, if it's very toxic,
Speaker:if the a is abusive, if they, you know, manipulate things, like,
Speaker:you know, you're not gonna have these conversations with them. It's not important.
Speaker:You are doing your thing in your house and they're doing their thing in their
Speaker:house, And they are separate. You don't get to control what goes on in their
Speaker:house, and they don't get to control what goes on in your house. You are
Speaker:in different homes and different parenting philosophies, and that's okay.
Speaker:It's hard to let go, but it's okay.
Speaker:It's hard to worry and, you know, to, like, not worry about what's happening in
Speaker:the other house, but it is your job to manage your own fear
Speaker:and worry and frustration and control and let
Speaker:let it go and trust. Right? So a lot of things that I talked about
Speaker:in the last episode about you only need a parent
Speaker:to emotionally coach a human in order for them
Speaker:to grow up emotionally healthy and emotionally aware. That's
Speaker:all that's all you can do a that's all you need to do. And just
Speaker:trust that it's enough because it is. I actually thought about
Speaker:this after I recorded the last episode, how,
Speaker:you only need a person to teach you how to read. Like, you only need
Speaker:a person to teach you how to do math. Like, we have multiple teachers in
Speaker:our lives because of the way the school system is set up. But once you
Speaker:learn how to read, you know how to read. Like, once you learn how to
Speaker:add, you know how to add. Right? It it doesn't matter how many
Speaker:people taught you it. And that's the true thing with emotions. Once you understand
Speaker:what you're feeling and know how to talk about it and know what to do
Speaker:with those feelings, you're set. You know how to do it. So if you're
Speaker:the only person who teaches them that, that's plenty. Okay.
Speaker:So having that conversation,
Speaker:if a in a fairly decent relationship with the other
Speaker:parent, having a conversation and be like, what are our values?
Speaker:What is our parenting approach?
Speaker:And kind of figuring out, like, are we on the same page at a foundational
Speaker:level? A so I
Speaker:wanna give you some strategies to for if you decide you
Speaker:are. Okay. If you have a mutual commitment to calm and conscious parenting,
Speaker:to calm and connected parenting, then
Speaker:you can like, I'm gonna help you with that.
Speaker:A? And then I'm gonna help you at the end of this episode if you've
Speaker:realized that you don't have the same approach. Maybe they're more permissive or
Speaker:they're more authoritarian in in that way,
Speaker:then I'm gonna give you some strategies of how to handle the a
Speaker:limits and consequences if they do it differently from you. Spoiler
Speaker:a. If they do it differently, that's okay. They can do it their way a
Speaker:you can do it your way and it's fine. And I'll give you some ways
Speaker:to handle that. But first, let's talk about
Speaker:if if you are in a a relationship
Speaker:and your co parent is committed
Speaker:to the same type of parenting as you are. Right? We're gonna hold our kids
Speaker:accountable. We're gonna be a, but in a calm, mutually respectful
Speaker:way. We're gonna do a feelings first model and, you know, we're
Speaker:gonna work on our own emotional regulation. We're not gonna lash out at our kids.
Speaker:We're not gonna hurt our kids. We're not gonna shame our kids. We are
Speaker:gonna work on ourselves. So we're calm. We're gonna help them with their
Speaker:big feelings. We're gonna give them tools. And,
Speaker:we're gonna set boundaries and we're gonna follow through on them. Okay? That's
Speaker:the calm mama process. If you're both committed, great. Now,
Speaker:what happens when either of you are
Speaker:off track or if you notice that your kids are off track?
Speaker:Okay? So if you if you're on the
Speaker:same page, right, and you see that
Speaker:your children are or your
Speaker:Childress, like, behaving badly, I want you to notice the
Speaker:pattern. That's kind of the first thing
Speaker:whether you notice the pattern, you're like, hey. Our kid keeps, you
Speaker:know, not finishing their dinner or dinner's been a disaster
Speaker:lately or bedtime's a big mess or the kids are dillydallying
Speaker:every morning or they don't clean a, they don't do their chores,
Speaker:a doesn't seem like they're brushing their teeth, whatever. Okay? One of
Speaker:you will realize that there is a behavior.
Speaker:And from there, you start to talk about that
Speaker:behavior as a couple. And even if you're not a couple,
Speaker:like, as 2 people. Right? You're like, hey. I see this pattern. And in
Speaker:that conversation, it's really important
Speaker:to not get defensive, to not be like, well, I I'm
Speaker:working on it or, you know, just realize you're you both a.
Speaker:You both are committed to the same parenting philosophy.
Speaker:You're in it a, and now let's have a conversation about a behavior.
Speaker:So noticing a pattern and then start talking about it as a couple.
Speaker:Hey. What do you think is going on? Why do you think they're acting this
Speaker:way? What's happening underneath? And you're doing that
Speaker:connection conversation together a
Speaker:without your child there. You're like, why are they acting this way? Do they need
Speaker:more a, like power? Do they need more appreciation?
Speaker:Do they need to be seen and validated? Do they need more affection? Like,
Speaker:do they need to be connected with us physically? Are they looking for
Speaker:time with us? Do they need to be accepted?
Speaker:Like, do they need do they are they trying to express themselves, their uniqueness,
Speaker:their individuality, or is are they seeking safety? Are they
Speaker:feeling insecure? Do they want attachment? So those are
Speaker:the 5 emotional needs that we all have, and I did an episode
Speaker:on that a couple of months ago. We'll link that in the show notes.
Speaker:So you're a just getting curious. You're like, what's happening with our kid? And a
Speaker:lot of times, if you do that as a as, you know, as a couple
Speaker:or as a co with your co parent, you might realize that
Speaker:this is more of an emotional issue that your child
Speaker:maybe needs some some skills around managing their
Speaker:feelings or maybe they need to get that emotional need met Become way. Maybe they
Speaker:need to get power in some other part of their lives. Maybe they need to
Speaker:be appreciated more. Maybe they need a little more connection, affection. They need a
Speaker:little more wrestling or hugs or whatever it is. Maybe they need to be
Speaker:told that they're good and worthy and lovely love
Speaker:loving and lovely. And, you know, they need to be a.
Speaker:Or maybe they're feeling insecure and they need some more, soothing and
Speaker:attachment. You need to do a little bit more connection with them.
Speaker:A lot of times if you meet the emotional need
Speaker:of a behavior, you can kind of
Speaker:the behavior lessens. It decreases. They become a your child will become
Speaker:more compliant Become remember feelings drive behavior.
Speaker:So your child is maybe looking for some emotional
Speaker:need to be filled. You've meet it or they you teach them how
Speaker:to meet it a then they don't act out. Okay?
Speaker:You calm also start to look at what skill might be missing. Maybe
Speaker:they don't know how to be okay with disappointment. Maybe they don't know how to
Speaker:self soothe. Maybe they're not being socially aware of how their behavior is
Speaker:affecting others. So then if that's the case, you might need
Speaker:to decide a rule or a limit in your in
Speaker:your family. Like, what's our rule for this? And then
Speaker:talk about it together. If you can
Speaker:see your child's behavior as a skill gap,
Speaker:like, oh, wow. They're really struggling with disappointment or being told no.
Speaker:So let's tell them no more often and let them work
Speaker:through the feelings of disappointment. Oh, maybe
Speaker:they, you know, need autonomy or
Speaker:power, so let's give them some power over their clothing choices
Speaker:or the books they read at bed or, you know, where they sit in the
Speaker:car, something like that. And then, you know,
Speaker:set some boundaries around that. Like, you're welcome to have this
Speaker:level of power as long as you're compliant in this other
Speaker:area. So you can pick your seat in
Speaker:the car as long as you get in the car
Speaker:Become, you know, I don't as long as you as long as I don't have
Speaker:to remind you to put your socks and shoes on, something like that. So you
Speaker:kind of tether the things together so that your children
Speaker:learn this, you know, grow in the in the skill
Speaker:or in the, you know, value or the emotional regulation
Speaker:that you're trying to teach them while holding them accountable with the
Speaker:boundary or where a limit. So it can be really helpful
Speaker:instead of seeing a behavior that your kids have and just
Speaker:arguing about it with your with your co parent and blaming each
Speaker:other and being like, well, this is your fault because you're not doing this. And
Speaker:they're like, well, this is your fault because you're not following through on this. And
Speaker:it's just like, you just feel like you're arguing about your kid's behavior all the
Speaker:time. Instead, pause, try to figure
Speaker:out what pattern is this, what's going on underneath,
Speaker:Is there a skill missing? And then what are our rules around it
Speaker:or what limits are we gonna set? Now
Speaker:this can be challenging as a couple to figure out. So if
Speaker:you're listening to this and you're like, I want to do
Speaker:that, and I don't know how to facilitate those kinds of
Speaker:conversations with my partner, that is a really good time to
Speaker:get a coach to, like, to hire me, and we can do a few sessions
Speaker:together and work on it. Right? So you
Speaker:can just reach out for a consultation with me, and we'll work it out
Speaker:together. So it it is
Speaker:important as a couple if you're on this if you already are committed and you
Speaker:keep having a conflict about a behavior and you're in a clash to have
Speaker:this conversation. And then if you can't get over it, then reach
Speaker:out. Now
Speaker:that's a a preventative or sort of
Speaker:a pattern. You're looking at it like, okay. We keep arguing
Speaker:about this behavior. Let's actually get on the same page about it, and let's move
Speaker:forward. What happens when you're in the
Speaker:moment and your co parent
Speaker:who you know is committed to the same values as you,
Speaker:and they are, like, kind of
Speaker:being like, you know what? If you don't listen to me, I'm not giving you
Speaker:TV for the week. Or they start yelling at your child
Speaker:or that they you know, they're in a parenting mama, and they're
Speaker:in a power struggle, and they're fighting with their your kid, and you
Speaker:can see it happening. Like, you are so clear
Speaker:that this isn't gonna go well and this is a disaster. And
Speaker:you're the co parent is, like, making a mess of it. And you're,
Speaker:like, probably wondering, okay, what am I supposed to do? Do I intervene or do
Speaker:I not? Do I back my co parent up or do I not?
Speaker:So my recommendation as
Speaker:long as the co parent isn't being explosive or
Speaker:hurtful, don't get involved.
Speaker:Let it play out. Be that
Speaker:compassionate witness noticing what's going
Speaker:on with your co parent, what's going on with your kid, where's the conflict
Speaker:about, what is it that the child really needs here, How could the
Speaker:co parent soothe here? Without saying anything, you're
Speaker:almost like like a coach in that a, except you're
Speaker:not coaching. You're just watching. And think about, like,
Speaker:basketball, how, you know, the coach might be just watching
Speaker:a game and then later going back and saying,
Speaker:oh, okay. Here's what my team needs to be doing to change
Speaker:this. I've never, like, been a sports coach or
Speaker:anything, but they always show how they watched the films back. Like, they look
Speaker:back at the previous game or games from last season, and
Speaker:they learn from that. So I want you to be
Speaker:that neutral about it as if it's like you're just watching
Speaker:and taking notes, but not to criticize your co parent
Speaker:just to be like, Their behavior
Speaker:isn't aligned with our values. Why? What's happening?
Speaker:And just being really, like, kind and compassionate in your heart. A like,
Speaker:woah, they're in it. This is a this is a shit show. Calm like,
Speaker:woah. Okay. I'm just gonna be a present witness here.
Speaker:Now like I said last week, if you have this relationship, you could be like,
Speaker:do you need to tap out? You know? Like, do you want me to take
Speaker:over? But I almost don't want you to do that. I
Speaker:like, if they're being explosive and hurtful, yes. But
Speaker:if it's just a parenting moment that's got away from them a
Speaker:little bit a they're trying to get some control back and they're kind of being,
Speaker:like, threatening or or briby or something
Speaker:like that. I just want you to watch. Okay? And
Speaker:then later, when everybody's calm, kids are in bed
Speaker:weekend, a, watching kids are watching TV or they're playing happily at the
Speaker:park, say, hey. Can we talk about what happened, you know,
Speaker:the other day, like, at bedtime or that that morning, like, what
Speaker:happened? And if your co parent is
Speaker:like, what? No. You know, they're defensive. Might not be the
Speaker:right time. So you calm say, hey. I do wanna revisit it because it didn't
Speaker:feel aligned. There was something off for me, but I want and I wanna
Speaker:talk to you about it, but it's not I'm not trying to, like, criticize you
Speaker:or blame you or anything. I just kinda wanna problem solve that or,
Speaker:like, troubleshoot it. So you're inviting them into a
Speaker:conversation, and then the kinds of questions that
Speaker:you ask to evaluate a situation
Speaker:is going back to the Calm Mama process. This is what I do. I'm like,
Speaker:okay. Were was I calm or were they calm? Like, was
Speaker:my partner calm? So I can just say to Kevin, like,
Speaker:were you upset? Like, what was going on for you? Were you, like, in your
Speaker:feelings? You know? And I'm not
Speaker:judging. I'm just kinda a, yeah. What was that like for you? What was going
Speaker:on for you? And then kind
Speaker:of go into connect. Did what was going on with the kid? Did we connect
Speaker:to their feelings? Did we value do we narrate what was happening for them?
Speaker:Do we name any of those big feelings for them? Do
Speaker:we already and then going to limit set. Do we already have a limit around
Speaker:this? If not, like, what would you have wanted it to be? Should we
Speaker:set a rule? You know, this seems is this a pattern? Is this something
Speaker:we wanna fix? Like, would that help you if we a of set up
Speaker:a limit? And then if they did
Speaker:follow through and they set a consequence, like, they gave,
Speaker:you know, some sort of, like, you're not having TV for a a, or I'm
Speaker:not giving you candy, or no more new toys, or you have to get rid
Speaker:of that toy, or whatever they've said,
Speaker:asking them, like, so do you still agree with that? Like, was that a, or
Speaker:do you think that aligns with our values? Do you think it's something we can
Speaker:actually follow through on? Like, if you're, like, gonna go
Speaker:to Disneyland or 6 flags or something and then, you know, on a on a
Speaker:Saturday a then on a Monday, they're like, if you keep doing that,
Speaker:we're not going to 6 flags. And then they keep doing it, and then your
Speaker:kid your husband's like, we're not going. You can revisit during the week and
Speaker:be like, honey, are you sure that this is
Speaker:in alignment of what we wanna do? How do we really not wanna
Speaker:go? Can we recorrect? Can we course correct here
Speaker:a, you know, find a different way to set a limit and follow
Speaker:through on it for this behavior in the future.
Speaker:So you're kind of evaluating and just giving
Speaker:them a chance to reflect, in a very loving and
Speaker:neutral way. So these two ways, these
Speaker:two conversations are, like, getting on the same page and staying on
Speaker:the same page. So you have these preventative
Speaker:conversations, these what are the behavior problems that are driving us
Speaker:create, crazy? So that's getting on the same
Speaker:page. And then staying on the same page is when one
Speaker:of you is not on track, isn't in alignment,
Speaker:isn't showing up with the same values, you
Speaker:let it play out a then you're like, hey. Let's talk
Speaker:about that. I that didn't feel right. That didn't go well.
Speaker:What do you think? Do you think it went well? I wanna
Speaker:say Kevin and I have been parents for almost
Speaker:20 years, and we have had a lot of these conversations.
Speaker:A lot of after the kids go to bed or on the weekends where we're
Speaker:like, what is going on with these people?
Speaker:And why is it not feeling good? And, like, what's happening? And we kind
Speaker:of come up with some rules and some limits, and we use the
Speaker:limit setting a. And then we're like, okay. So this is our plan. We get,
Speaker:like, a game plan. Like, we literally sit together or stand or
Speaker:whatever and get on the same page. We make a
Speaker:plan. And then we stay on the same page
Speaker:by sometimes not being and recorrecting,
Speaker:course correcting. So I want to normalize
Speaker:it for you that not every moment with
Speaker:your co parent is gonna feel good. It's not gonna
Speaker:always feel right, like, they're gonna be off track. You're gonna be off track,
Speaker:but it's the afterward or the, like, the pre
Speaker:conversation or the post conversations that really
Speaker:do that fine tuning and moving you as a couple
Speaker:or as a co parent team towards your goals of
Speaker:raising kids who are emotionally healthy and personally responsible.
Speaker:Right? That's our goal. So how are we gonna get there? Emotionally healthy,
Speaker:personally responsible. Now
Speaker:when you can't get on the same page, okay, what
Speaker:are you supposed to do? When you have a a
Speaker:co parent who's like, no. I'm not into
Speaker:it. I do not think that emotional health matters.
Speaker:It doesn't it's stupid. Right? Some people believe that.
Speaker:Like, they don't they just think it's kinda bullshit,
Speaker:and that's difficult. Right? It is challenging if you're
Speaker:partnered with someone who's your values don't align with your kids,
Speaker:but maybe you really still dig each a, like, a
Speaker:ton, you know, and you are in a a, and
Speaker:you you can be you can disagree.
Speaker:Okay? It doesn't have to be the exact
Speaker:same approach. Each
Speaker:person is in an individual relationship with
Speaker:another person. So your co parent
Speaker:has a relationship with their child, and they are teaching their
Speaker:child how to be how to be in the world and how to be in
Speaker:a relationship with them. And that's their prerogative. They're
Speaker:their parent. And, you
Speaker:know, as as long as they're not, like, really
Speaker:physically hurting their child or really, really shaming or pain you know,
Speaker:being in pain about that, then they
Speaker:get to do that. They can be strict and
Speaker:firm without emotional coaching. That's how
Speaker:most of us were raised. It's it's not great because we wanna
Speaker:have a good relationship with both of our parents as adults. Right?
Speaker:We want to have our kids grow up and like us.
Speaker:And I'm sure that your partner wants that too,
Speaker:but they may not a. That's why it's good to have these
Speaker:conversations of, like, what do you want your future relationship with our
Speaker:kid to look like? Because if you raise a kid in an
Speaker:authoritarian way,
Speaker:they end up feeling very emotionally disconnected
Speaker:from their parent. They feel like their parent doesn't really give a shit
Speaker:about them. Even though their parent is very focused on the behavior
Speaker:and they wanna see performance and success a they want their kid to,
Speaker:like, quote a be good, the
Speaker:child grows up feeling like my parent cares more about what
Speaker:I do, not who I am, cares more about what I
Speaker:say, not how I feel. And that means
Speaker:that long term, the child and that
Speaker:parent probably won't have a very connected a.
Speaker:And that's okay. That's
Speaker:the life that your co parent is choosing to create
Speaker:with their child. Is there room for repair? Yes.
Speaker:Always. You can always shift gears
Speaker:and parent your kids differently even if they're grown. Some of you
Speaker:listening have kids who are in college or even out of college. And
Speaker:you're like, well, I was really too strict. I didn't do not a lot of
Speaker:emotional coaching, and I have a lot of regrets about that. No
Speaker:problem. You can reset. You can start
Speaker:to connect emotionally, see your kid for who
Speaker:they are right now. That's fine. But while you're
Speaker:parenting in you know, if you're in a relationship now and your kids
Speaker:are are younger or whatever, and you see your
Speaker:co parent showing up in ways that you wouldn't act and
Speaker:doing things that you wouldn't do and saying things you wouldn't say,
Speaker:You can have a conversation about it, but also I want you to just know
Speaker:that's on them. That's their course
Speaker:trajectory in that relationship. So it
Speaker:doesn't mean that your kid is messed up forever.
Speaker:You you are gonna emotionally coach a, and you're gonna do what you're gonna
Speaker:do and, you know, set your boundaries and set
Speaker:communicate your limits and teach your kids how to be in a relationship with you
Speaker:and give them all sorts of great, great teaching.
Speaker:So you can kids can grow up to be well
Speaker:rounded and successful emotionally, physically,
Speaker:you know, financially, academically, all the ways that we want our kids
Speaker:to be successful even if they have a parent that's harsh
Speaker:or really dis emotionally disconnected.
Speaker:Now, what do you actually do
Speaker:as the parent who's co
Speaker:parenting along somebody who maybe is very punitive.
Speaker:If your co parent is like, if you don't
Speaker:listen to mommy, I'm not you can't watch TV all
Speaker:week. Or since you, you know, you hit your brother,
Speaker:that's it. I'm not, you know, I'm you don't get to play, you
Speaker:know, soccer all week or whatever. If your
Speaker:co parent comes up with a consequence
Speaker:that is like, if
Speaker:they come up with a consequence and they're the one who's gonna follow through on
Speaker:it and they're the ones who are in charge of that part of their kid's
Speaker:life, great. Just let it be. That's what it's like. That's your kid's life.
Speaker:They're learning how to be in a relationship with their parent
Speaker:and this is what it means and this is what the consequences are. It's
Speaker:okay. But if that means, like, say you
Speaker:are the person who's taking them to soccer all week or you're the person who
Speaker:typically lets them watch TV while you make dinner or a, and then your
Speaker:co a like, no TV all week. And they create
Speaker:a consequence that then you have to follow-up on and you don't agree with the
Speaker:consequence and it affects you, you can say
Speaker:no. You can say, a. It
Speaker:is okay for you to set up consequences in this family,
Speaker:you know, for that you can follow through on. It's not okay
Speaker:for you to set consequences that then I have to follow through on.
Speaker:That doesn't work for me. I don't agree with this
Speaker:consequence. I don't agree with how you handled it, and I'm not gonna
Speaker:follow-up on it. So you
Speaker:can say you need to find a consequence that you can
Speaker:enforce when you're around. So this
Speaker:is, I hope I'm explaining it well, but imagine your
Speaker:co parent is like, no sugar for the week.
Speaker:And then you're like, well, no. I have planned to make,
Speaker:you know, banana bread on Wednesday and take it to the park and give it
Speaker:to all the kids or whatever. And you're like, I'm not
Speaker:gonna, you know, follow through on their consequence.
Speaker:It can feel like you're lying or undermining or you're not being
Speaker:honest if you just, you know, don't do it.
Speaker:So instead of just, being passive aggressive about
Speaker:it, communicate. You need to go say to your partner, hey, I'm not doing
Speaker:that. I'm I'm in charge on Wednesday a I'm not doing
Speaker:that. So you kept to come up with a different consequence.
Speaker:So you're not telling them don't consequence our kids or don't follow through on
Speaker:your behavior, your limits or boundaries. Just don't
Speaker:involve me. Okay? I want
Speaker:you to feel strong enough to be like, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker:It affects my rhythm. It affects my plan. It affects my routine. I didn't set
Speaker:this up. We did not talk about it. We're not this is you.
Speaker:You need to find a different way to, you know,
Speaker:follow through on this. Now
Speaker:some of you are like, I don't wanna tell
Speaker:my partner that. They're gonna get pissed.
Speaker:Yeah. That's part of being in a relationship with a with a peer,
Speaker:with an adult. If you're not gonna agree on
Speaker:your approaches, if you're not gonna agree on your philosophies,
Speaker:that means they're gonna do their thing and you're gonna do your thing,
Speaker:and they can do their thing. You're not telling them not to. You're just
Speaker:saying you need to make that happen when you're,
Speaker:like, in charge of them. It's the last thing
Speaker:we need is for a co parent who's being harsh and punitive and
Speaker:not following, like, not following the approach we're following a
Speaker:then asking us to do the dirty work,
Speaker:so to speak. It just isn't gonna feel good
Speaker:to you. It's not gonna feel aligned. You're gonna end up
Speaker:being passive and not following through on it because it's not gonna
Speaker:feel good. And then you're gonna be like, well, daddy said or mommy
Speaker:said that you can't have this, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway.
Speaker:And now all of a sudden you're pushing you're showing the children that
Speaker:you aren't aligned. I want you to privately
Speaker:be misaligned and make a
Speaker:plan privately and then come to the kids and say, I know daddy
Speaker:said that about sugar, but he and I have agreed that we're you're gonna do
Speaker:something different to make that right or or that consequence we're shifting
Speaker:that a. And it's gonna happen, you know, this weekend with
Speaker:daddy or it's gonna happen this weekend with mommy.
Speaker:So you're still on the same page to the kids. You're like, no. No. We're
Speaker:not aligned. We're just changing it a little bit and and doing it slightly different
Speaker:than what we said we were gonna do. But you're still gonna he's daddy's still
Speaker:following up. Mommy's still following up. So
Speaker:you are being really honest and
Speaker:talking about things and talking them through.
Speaker:It sounds like as I do this episode, I'm like, god. There's so many
Speaker:fucking conversations I'm telling you to have, which is annoying,
Speaker:but it's kind of what is required. It doesn't
Speaker:have to be a 100,000,000 conversations. This when you have them, make
Speaker:them intentional. If you
Speaker:are sitting with something that doesn't feel right, think
Speaker:about it and then say, hey. I need to talk to you about something. And
Speaker:then have a conversation that is focused on a specific,
Speaker:a specific topic. Like, instead of being like, well, that was rude. You were so
Speaker:rude. That was don't talk to our kids like that. Those
Speaker:you already have a 100 conversations with your co parent. I'd
Speaker:rather you have fewer a higher quality,
Speaker:more intentional. So you might need to go back and listen to this
Speaker:episode to really kind of break it down. I'll break it down for you now.
Speaker:But thinking about, first, the
Speaker:conversation that has to take place is what
Speaker:are our values as a
Speaker:parenting unit? Are we
Speaker:foundationally on the same page? Are we
Speaker:philosophically on the same page? Do we agree
Speaker:that our children's emotional life matters
Speaker:as much as how they act?
Speaker:So how they feel and how they act. Do we care about both those
Speaker:things? Because
Speaker:this model that you've been learning by listening to this podcast is a
Speaker:both model. It's feelings first,
Speaker:behavior second. So we are
Speaker:doing following through on behavior and we're setting boundaries and we're
Speaker:letting our kids experience the impact of their behavior through
Speaker:consequences. So we are doing that and we're
Speaker:emotionally coaching our kids. We're giving them language to talk about their
Speaker:emotions while also managing our own emotions.
Speaker:So you wanna ask your co parent, hey. Do you align
Speaker:with these? And then when you are aligned, you are on
Speaker:the same page. If you find yourself misaligned, you can
Speaker:connect back. If you have this conversation and you
Speaker:find out that you are misaligned and that's how it is, you guys have
Speaker:different philosophies, that's okay.
Speaker:They get to set up boundaries and limits how they set them up.
Speaker:You get to set them up the way you set them a, but the
Speaker:decision or the agreement needs to be he
Speaker:or she follows up in their way and you follow-up in your way.
Speaker:And each of you are taking responsibility for how
Speaker:you how you parent.
Speaker:So the takeaway here is your co
Speaker:parent, they get to choose what they want
Speaker:their relationship with their child to look like. You can
Speaker:have conversations with them if they're open to it,
Speaker:but you don't get to control how
Speaker:they behave with your kid. You
Speaker:just don't. So you you get to
Speaker:control how you behave with your kid.
Speaker:You can if you're in a committed relationship and you both love each other and
Speaker:you wanna talk about it, you can. You can hire me a we I can
Speaker:help you get on the same page if you can't quite figure it out.
Speaker:But if you really realize, like, okay, we have different values here. They're
Speaker:not into the whole emotion thing. This is typically what I see.
Speaker:They're not into the whole emotional thing. Okay. Fine. They
Speaker:can have boundaries. They can follow through, and they calm do it on their
Speaker:a when they're in charge, and you'll do it when you're in charge in
Speaker:your way. And that just is an agreement you make.
Speaker:No matter what, you are responsible
Speaker:for how you set boundaries and how you follow through with them.
Speaker:You you are responsible when you're with your child to
Speaker:emotionally coach them and help them understand their feelings and
Speaker:giving them tools to manage their emotions in healthy ways.
Speaker:These are your commitments. Your co parent does not need to make the
Speaker:same commitments. So when you do your job,
Speaker:when you do the things that you've committed to, your kid benefits.
Speaker:You're always progressing forward in
Speaker:if you are keeping with your own values. Even if your co parent doesn't
Speaker:parent the same way as you, you are moving your child
Speaker:closer to emotional health and
Speaker:personal responsibility without shame. Super cool. Right?
Speaker:I hope that this gives you some strategies, but, really, I hope you
Speaker:feel a little bit more freedom. Like, okay. They can do their thing. They
Speaker:can be harsh. They can be punitive. You know, they can say critical things. I'm
Speaker:gonna emotionally coach my kids. I'm gonna let my co parent follow through on their
Speaker:consequences, and I'm gonna leave it be
Speaker:and trust that my kid's gonna be okay. I'm not gonna freak
Speaker:out. I'm not gonna get mad. I'm gonna have conversations and
Speaker:then I'm gonna let it play out. Yeah?
Speaker:It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to parent alone. For those of you
Speaker:single parents who don't have a co parent, you know, it's super
Speaker:challenging. It's exhausting. You don't have anyone to to bounce ideas
Speaker:off with. You don't have anybody to, like, tap in and out with. It's
Speaker:hard. And it's really hard to co
Speaker:parent because you don't have all the
Speaker:control and that can be really overwhelming and
Speaker:frustrating. But you do have all of
Speaker:you single parent co parent with someone on the same
Speaker:page, co parent with someone on the same page. All of us
Speaker:have a lot of agency in how we parent our
Speaker:kids. So trust yourself,
Speaker:trust your kid, and keep going.
Speaker:Alright. I hope you have a great week. And if you want any
Speaker:support from me, reach out, book a consultation, and we calm
Speaker:talk about next steps and how to work together.
Speaker:Alright. I hope you have a great week.