Welcome to Episode 3 of our Men’s Health Talk Series.

In this conversation, Nkechi sits down with the inspiring Richard Oyekunle, an entrepreneur, real estate leader, and visionary committed to building generational wealth and uplifting his community.

Richard shares his journey from immigrant beginnings to becoming an industry leader in Canada. But this episode goes far beyond business, it touches on the emotional, mental, and spiritual resilience men must cultivate on their path to purpose.

Together, Nkechi and Richard explore what it means for men to heal, grow, collaborate, and redefine what “success” truly looks like, not just for themselves, but for the families and communities they represent.

This is an empowering conversation about legacy, identity, and the inner well-being required for men to rise and thrive.

Key Takeaways

• Resilience shapes destiny. Richard’s journey shows how perseverance, adaptability, and self-belief can turn obstacles into opportunities for immigrant men building a new life.
• Lift as you climb. Community support, collaboration, and shared success are essential. Empowerment multiplies when men rise together.
• Men’s worth is tied to inner health. Nkechi and Richard speak honestly about the importance of knowing your value, healing from past narratives, and investing in your personal growth.
• Legacy starts at home. Richard credits his mother’s entrepreneurial example as the spark for his own purpose, reminding us how role models shape our emotional and financial DNA.
• True wealth is generational. Richard’s ventures, including Settle and Legacy City, focus on creating pathways that empower communities for decades to come.
• Challenges are growth invitations. Every setback can sharpen character, deepen faith, and strengthen resolve on the journey toward success.

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Book Recommendation: "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" by Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lechter

Find Richard Online:

Website: https://roregroup.ca/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/richardoyekunle_/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardoyekunleo/

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Great day, amazing human.

Yes.

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Yes.

Great day, amazing humans.

This guest that I'm about to interview is a living testament that what's possible possible when faith meets perseverance.

From immigrant roots to industry leadership, his story is one of courage, conviction, and relentless growth.

He built thriving businesses, led with integrity, and turned every challenge into an opportunity to rise.

Hire a visionary entrepreneur whose purpose is rooted in impact.

Legacy.

We're going to be talking about that.

And lifting others up as he climbs.

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Put it all together for.

With a gigantic podcast.

Welcome for Richard on.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes.

You got it right.

You got the last one right.

You got it right.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

That intro, probably the best so far I've ever heard.

And yeah, thank you.

I'm honored.

I'm honored, actually.

I. I do h. I'm a hype.

I'm a hype woman for hire.

So if.

If ever you.

You need.

That makes sense now.

That makes sense.

That makes sense.

That makes sense.

So signature.

First question.

First just thank you for saying yes.

I. I feel.

I. I actually feel like I'm.

I'm privileged to tap into your mind.

And, you know, I know I told you.

I said, you know what?

I'm gonna just put myself on blast because everybody knows I'm one and down on Instagram.

Post.

Look at the first message my feed.

I'm gonna just tell you something.

This guy had me scrolling for, like, until my IG timed out.

So you have a brilliant mind and I'm really happy to tap into it.

Okay.

Yeah.

So first question is, what has been your most empowered thought of the day so far?

For today?

Yeah, today.

This day.

Okay.

The most important thought for today.

For today.

Interesting.

I'll say this coming up here, to be honest.

Yeah, Yeah.

I was looking, really looking forward to this because the thing is, we all get busy and we get about our lives, right?

And one thing that's got me to where I am today is just the direct and indirect support of people.

Right.

So knowing that coming here is not just for me to come and share my story, but also, after I share my story, one or two people that can connect with you and how that can help them.

So, yeah, I'll say this podcast for sure.

It's been on my mind since morning.

Well, now you know why you were the perfect guest.

Because this is my.

This is like the mission and the philosophy.

Because you and I are going to have a really great exchange.

Right?

Like, I'm looking forward to that.

You know what I mean?

You're going to pump me.

But the truth is, this exchange is worth nothing unless something else gains from it.

Right.

And that is what you just.

Those are the gems that you just drop.

So get ready.

So, first of all, there's always a backstory, and I'd love you to share, like, you know, just sort of what has kind of led you to, you know, one from where you were born to coming here to Canada, to being really top real estate.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to call Mogul.

Does anyone call you Mogul?

Okay, I'll take that.

I'll take that.

Let's call you Mogul.

Yeah, yeah, I'll take that.

Backstory, Backstory, Backstory.

So, firstly, I'll put this out.

I'm someone that likes to copy a lot, right.

And I. Yeah, I copy a lot.

And I embrace that.

I think that has helped me to where I am today.

And when I say that is because I'm from a very big family.

You have to elaborate what you mean by copy, though.

Okay.

I'll tell you.

So.

So I'm from a very big family.

Family of eight.

Adopted another.

My.

My parents adopted another one.

Making nine.

I'm number eight of nine.

Wow.

That's a lot.

That's a big family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Of nine.

So what I tell people is I saw a lot of people grow before me, right?

The good guys, the bad guys.

You know, the good sister.

The bad sister.

Right.

And I could learn from all of them.

Right.

I. Yeah.

From a very young age.

So they all say in my family that I grew up so fast.

Right.

I took life serious at a very young age, and that it has its own advantage and disadvantages.

Right.

But I will speak about the advantage that helped me a lot, shaped me to where I am today and just kind of make me focus at a very early age, and I think that gives me that edge to today.

So growing up, my parents had a huge impact in me as Well, I would say my story started with the.

With my family, my parents, my siblings.

I grew up in a family where my dad, top police officer, he was never around.

But my mom, you know, very grounded.

She's a business owner.

And I could see what I wanted to be from a very young age.

I saw my dad, who had to pursue his education, but he was never around.

My mom stopped higher education to finance him, right?

To do that.

But she was more grounded.

She runs her own business as her own money, was able to invest in real estate.

I could see her doing so much for herself because she followed that route, right?

So I could see that firsthand.

Then my brothers going up, having to look for a job.

My mom never had to look for a job, right?

And she was able to build something really great.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

At the young age, I was really exposed to that.

I was exposed to money.

Not my money, but her money, right?

Having to work with her and all of that.

So.

So by the time I finished my uni, went for my masters, I knew what I wanted to do, right?

The route I wanted to go.

So when I decided to move to Canada with my wife, I told her, you know what, it has to be real estate.

But I had to do something before that, right?

Because our first generation in Canada.

So why.

Why real estate?

Okay, why real estate?

I knew I was going to go into business while I was in uni.

I did some few businesses on campus just to raise extra money because what I was giving wasn't enough.

So I'll do some extra trading, getting stuff from my.

My siblings from abroad and resell on campus.

So my mom.

Yeah, on campus.

Then it's.

Then my mom exposed me to it too, because she was investing heavily in real estate.

My dad was never around.

When he makes the money, send it to her.

I should invest in real estate.

So I got exposed to the contractors, you know, the land owners, because I'll probably, you know, we'll go there together.

So I went behind the back when I missed my first money in uni to go buy one plot of land, right?

If I told her, she won't let me.

But because I've had good relationship with those people, right?

The day I called them, they're like, really?

You want to invest?

They were so impressed because they thought I should have done something else with the money.

Not a lot of money, right?

Right.

So they support those, you know, older folks.

They supported me.

They were like, for you to think this way.

They supported me and I, I bought that.

But the day she got to knew because I had no escape.

I have to go keep the document.

Where all my brothers keeps their line documents.

Right.

Because that's the only safe place in our home.

Right.

So she saw it.

She was like this doesn't.

Does this belong to you?

So I had to tell her.

She was like, okay, why didn't you tell me?

You should have told me.

Right.

I would have supported you.

You did made the right decision.

I'm happy these people helped you.

And that was the beginning of it.

Yeah, that was the beginning of it for me.

You still have that land?

Oh yeah.

Now.

Yes.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I say I see now till now.

I mean, I don't know.

So you're talking about how many years.

Ago this was 16 years ago.

Wow.

And you've built on it.

Not on that one.

Yeah, not on that one.

Not on that one.

But the experience was great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not on that one.

And after then, then double down on real estate.

Worked in Nigeria.

After I got back from.

I did my.

My MBA and I started my own real estate company.

Then I wanted to start my own real estate company.

But I have never worked before.

Right.

I've never worked before.

So I got a job at the, at the bank UBA bank in Nigeria.

Worked here for six months just to get an organization experience.

Then started my own real estate company which was going amazing again with the support of all my siblings, dear friends that trusted me and they knew that I had something about investing in real estate from a very young age.

Business was going great until the unfortunate thing happened because I just got married with myself and my wife.

We're expecting and I will just share that the, the unfortunately happened that we lost the child.

Yeah.

At the time.

And she, she never wanted to be in that space anymore.

She needed to relocate.

And I was like, okay, if I will get headway, whatever I'm doing, I need my partner with me.

So she needed to change environment and Canada was just that place that had the best PR in the world at the time that you can move to.

So had the best one.

The best pr.

Oh, the best.

Right, right, right.

You know, at the time, the best place to live in the world, the best health care and all of that.

Right.

So they left out telling you there's winter.

But absolutely we did for the research and yeah.

But again that was why we decided to move to Canada.

And when I got here because I started real estate back home and it was going great.

That is what I wanted to do here, but I needed to work, at least make some money, take care of the family before I start for my licensing.

And I did that for one year then before I moved fully into real estate.

I'm just curious, what did, what did you, how did, what did you work?

Like, where did you work when you arrived?

So I worked in social work, which also helped because it's just caring for people.

Youth, you know, use their heart of the home and they want to get back into the community.

So, yeah, I worked there as a social worker.

I fell in love with the job, but it got to the point where after I got my license and things started getting.

I just had to.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

And so just a couple of things.

I want to go back to how you started.

You said you, you, you talk about copy, and I think I understand it now.

Which is, which is you look at people who have gone before you and you take the good and the bad, the, the child's attribute, like whatever it, like their learnings, their lessons, and you incorporate them into.

Is that kind of what.

Yeah, exactly.

You got it right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now I'm going to turn it on you.

So I'm a young Richard watching you, and what would they be learning from you?

So if you're young, with you watching me, what will you be learning from me?

Okay, well, obviously, if you're going to watch me, you know, definitely, you definitely have to invest in yourself.

Yeah, Right.

You need to invest in yourself.

You have to be consistent as well.

There are a lot of times that things won't pan out last you plan.

Right.

But if you're consistent and you understand that there's always a journey before the results.

Right.

And you have to walk the journey.

One thing that I've done so far is I always understand that nothing great will come easy.

So when I'm going through the process and things are not falling in place, I know it's just part of the story.

Right.

So that encourages me when I should break down that, you know, I just need to keep moving forward.

Another thing that's also helped me is I always find one way or the other to enjoy the process.

Right.

Because I believe that's the field that helps you to keep going.

Right.

So even when, yes, I will complain here and there, but because I know it's part of the story, I have that understanding.

So.

And I think that's what is not the most common nowadays.

We all don't set up for that delay gratification.

We don't want it to happen now, now, now.

We don't know.

Always a process before that hand go that you so much desire.

So that's one thing you learned from me.

I love doing.

I'm okay with doing boring stuff.

I'm okay putting in the time.

I'm okay just doing things, you know, things repetitively for so long, provided I know I'm on the right track, right.

To where I'm going.

And that's something that I know that.

Have you always had patience or have you had to cultivate it over time?

If you ever close to my mom, definitely you have patience.

Okay.

Right.

Trust me, you have patience.

So.

Yes.

Yeah, Yeah, I. I learned that from her.

But definitely something I had to work on on myself too.

Work on myself.

And one thing that helped also is knowing that you know when to shut out the noise.

See, right.

Because there's so many distractions, there's so many noise.

Just knowing when to shut it out so you can be patient and be focused until you get.

Could it be easy?

No, it's not always easy, but yeah.

I think I'm very obsessed with the results.

So anything I have to do to.

Get it, you'll go through it.

So I'm going to just double click.

Because you did talk about, you know, the process is not supposed to be easy.

Yeah.

I always like to say, like, the bigger the affliction, the.

The.

So the greater the affliction, the.

The bigger the anointing.

And so, you know, looking at your life today, right.

Like the highlight reel, it didn't come without struggles.

Yeah.

You know, what is one of the.

Like, can you share maybe some of the what's.

Or maybe what's a struggle that you.

That happened more than.

I don't know why this question is coming to me, but what's a struggle?

Maybe that happened to you a couple of times before you actually learned the lesson.

Oh, couple of times.

At least more than once.

You know, sometimes you're like.

And then God's like, yeah.

I think, okay, I'll split this into two.

I think the biggest one.

Right.

I would say it's a lesson, but I think it's the occurrence that happened in Nigeria before we moved.

I think that shaped my life in total.

Made me a better person.

It's.

It makes me as.

It made me to see life differently.

Right.

And as someone that just got married at the time and I was still very young, that happening and being able to get through that phase taught me a lot of lesson.

Right.

Kept me grounded.

That I would say that was the biggest.

But the one that's happened, like, time over time again, that had to learn from it, I would say in business, for sure.

Yeah.

In business, when I started this, there are just some business fundamentals and lessons that I had to learn.

Especially when you're working with.

I work with a lot of people in the community.

Right.

And there's just this obsession I have for wanting to deliver.

Right.

But I needed to understand that sometimes having to say no is you actually doing the other person good.

Right?

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

Having to do the other person good.

So I hear the opposite, like, say no about protecting your peace or creating the right boundaries, but this one is good for the other.

You saying yes to saying yes to what you know that you will not be able to deliver.

Not because you don't want to deliver, but you don't have the capacity.

It's not because you're doing yourself good, but you're also doing the other person good.

I understand from that.

Yes, I understand that.

Wow.

That's a different perspective.

But because I was so obsessed to wanting to deliver at all costs.

So taking on things I know I don't have within the.

Within my capacity is something that.

Because it affected few relationships.

But the thing is, it's only when you get the grace that they wouldn't know that it's coming from a place I want to deliver.

So I was.

Yeah, that happened a few times.

I learned from it affected few relationships.

But I helped.

I learned from it.

And that I really.

That has really helped.

I love that.

I actually love that.

That perspective.

So Roar Group.

Let me just.

We did.

We did.

We went in on the.

The team investigated you.

So War Group Settle and Legacy City.

Yes.

All ventures built around empowerment and legacy.

So legacy is a big thing for you.

Absolutely.

Can you talk to us about what it means to you?

So what I tell people, right.

We always have people talk about why.

Why are you doing something?

And I think it's very important in everything that we do.

And for me, my why in when it comes to my career, my business, what I stand for is how can I build something that is way bigger than me?

I don't mind being a person in it.

Right.

And I believe that is legacy.

How can we.

How can I become someone who I never thought I would be?

Because I want other people to watch me and learn from me.

That is also legacy.

Right.

When we talk about ladies, people always think, oh, legacy is because you just want to leave some properties behind.

No, no, no.

Legacy is something that is way bigger than what you can comprehend.

And other people will be able to live from that, right?

Yeah.

And that was all brought about Legacy City.

That's what has also helped the business.

And I understand that if I'm going to do that, then it can't just be me, right?

Yeah.

I can run it alone.

Is it.

I run, I collaborate with other people.

I get operators, I get partners.

Right?

Yeah.

So.

Because that's how I believe that we can build something that is way bigger than us and other people can just learn from it.

And if I have dive into everything that we do now, from Raw Group to settle to Legacy.

Can you talk specifically about what each group?

What each.

Okay, yeah.

What each provides?

Yes.

Yeah.

So Rogue Group actually came out from.

Started with my real estate business.

The first six months was just me doing what will keep me in the business.

Right.

I just want to be in the business.

And I started doing laces, did a lot of laces.

Before you now transition into buying and selling.

Right.

So you were doing it all that time by yourself?

Yeah, I was doing all that time by myself.

Then at the time I got an assistant and it goes to the point where assistant can only do the, you know, the paperworks.

Right.

Then I needed more people that will actually be front facing, meet up with client, do showings, do open houses.

And we just started from one agent joining the team to two agents.

But now in the group, we have about 18 agents now, by God's grace.

Yeah, we have 18 agents.

And they are not my team members.

I call them partners because we are partners in business.

And we just set out to help people buy, sell and invest in real estate.

And that is legacy for me.

Yes.

Right.

Because now it's not just about me.

Yeah, right.

Not just about you.

How much can I do?

But with all of these other great people that have been able to multiply, they are doing great stuff for themselves, for their family and for people in the comments.

And that is what.

So is this a bonus mindset?

And that helped me that when we started settle and I was just debating to settle, settle came out of what we do with Raw Group helping people in the community.

And we got a lot of people.

I'm also an immigrant.

People that come from other countries that want to rent houses.

And it's more about when they come in, we ask them for things that they don't have.

We ask them for job experience where they're coming from, which is not applicable in Canada.

For the most times, we ask them for credits and if you're so lucky that you're coming from Africa, you definitely don't have credit report, right?

And because it became a challenge that when we get those files that we really want to help them to run in a place, there's no way we could do it.

We only offer them our own clients properties and stand for them.

And I've had this for quite a while that there must be a solution to this, right?

When people come in, it's sheltered, they should be able to get a place to live, provide, they have good intentions to be able to pay.

And thankfully, to be honest, a lot of immigrants don't rent what they can afford.

Right?

Because then in a new country, they just want to settle and go about it like.

So I met with a partner of mine earlier this year that became my partner now.

I ran into him, I took my son for soccer and it was just so funny that the same day I reached out to him on LinkedIn because I saw his profile business development, I reached out to me on email.

Isaac.

No.

Okay.

No, not even Isaac.

I'm going to touch on Isaac a little bit.

So I met with him, I sent him a message on LinkedIn and he replied.

He just gave me one word reply.

I was like, okay, that was cold.

I was like, okay, that's fine.

Then, then I, I took my son for soccer.

I picked him up and we went for soccer.

And I just saw this person coming.

He was looking at me that he knows my face.

But I was like, okay, it looks like a person that reached out to on LinkedIn today.

Then, then we started talking.

I was like, but you give me one word reply.

Then we know.

We laughed about it.

Then we exchanged what do you do?

And all of that.

Then we spoke about this problem and he said, okay, Richard, this makes sense.

So we just spoke about it.

Surprisingly, we left and 30 minutes later he called me.

He said, you know what he's been working on, he's been thinking about it.

How about if we work on this together?

I was like, okay, absolutely, let's do it.

And the conversion started since February this year and that's what came about.

Settle, which we are launching next month.

Can you share a little bit more about?

Okay, so what we're building now, it's now real estate and tech.

So it's a prop tech where it's a solution where when new immigrants come into the country.

Right.

They are able to rent a place with ease and we will be able to guarantee the rent to the landlord.

Right.

And we cover all the processing what they need to to be able to rent a place.

Because what we're trying, the solution we're trying to create with that is it takes six months to nine months for new immigrants to be, be able to settle.

Unless you have a family member that wants to take you in.

And not everybody has that luxury.

Right.

So how can they come in, settle in from the day one so they can go about their life to go get a job and be able to transition into the system and everyone can stop complaining that immigrants are the problem.

They're not coming in stressed.

Right?

Coming in and they can settle.

Yes, yes, exactly.

So yes.

And that's the name of the company Settle.

So want you to come in, be able to settle and thrive from there.

And a byproduct of that which we're launching same time is the settle credit, which is when you're renting in this country, you are able to report your rent to build your credit score.

This is something that has never happened before.

And in Ontario alone we have over a million people renting that have been paying their rent for so many years and it's not impacting their credits in any way.

And they're being exposed to go take credit card and call them just because they want to be.

So that's what.

And that again, that is legacy for me.

Because now, yeah, the idea started with me, but Ade came on board with my partner.

Now we have so many people on the team that it's not even about Richard anyways anymore.

Sometimes I just even just try to find my way through because there are so many people, you know, handing this machine.

And that is legacy for me.

How can I be part of something that is way bigger than me that when people talk about affects so many lives and his family.

Okay.

And Legacy city.

Yes, now Legacy city.

Okay, okay, okay.

Legacy is, I would say is the reverse of settle.

People migrate abroad to settle and find creates life for themselves.

Just like what I did eight years ago.

Right.

With my family.

But the thing is I know that coming to this part of the world at some point I'm going to go back.

And that is the story for a lot of people.

I'm.

I don't subscribe to coming, migrating somewhere and living like a guest or a visit or.

No, when you migrate somewhere, you're going to spend good time part of your life.

You want to see yourself living There you have to know that this is home.

But there comes a time in life where you know that you want to go back to where you actually came from.

And the reality of it is a lot of people are trying not to make that move because they don't have community anymore.

The place they left 30 years ago has completely changed and they don't want to go spend the later part of their life with people without that they cannot identify with or they don't have common interest.

Right.

So again, this was early last year that if I'm to go back to Nigeria today, where would I like to live?

It's not because I want to live in some expensive area that I don't even know everyone around.

I want to live in where I know that I have like minded people, people that will reason the same way, we have the same interest.

And that was what came about.

Legacy city in Nigeria where it's going to be home for people that have gone to diaspora.

They want to come home, but they want to live among themselves because they now share the same belief, they share the same experience.

Someone that came back from Australia, from Highland, from the us, from Canada, Right.

Imagine a city and this is not an estate, this is a city that is going to have all the amenities, everything that they need and be able to coexist, be able to live together.

Right.

So when they're doing their 50th, their 60th birthday, they can do it there.

When grandkids come, they want to come with their grandkids.

They are in an environment where they can live and they will not feel like, you know what, we just make, made an exchange that is below par because I decided to move from the state.

Right.

So and that's what brought about legacy.

And this is going to be highly tech driven as well.

So let me understand.

Sorry, I just want to make sure I.

You are built in, you're building a city.

Yeah, well, I'm going to be a puzzle.

I'm going to just be a business there.

But yes.

Wow.

So people can buy land within this area.

Like is it a land mass?

Yeah.

So it's a landmass.

Yes, it's a big landmass and people will be able to buy land, people able to buy commercial properties because there'll be a lot of commercial opportunities for people that wants to live there.

And that is what these legacy is what we're working on right now, putting all the missing pieces together to, to have a lunch next year.

So home for the diaspora, that's the word.

Wow.

That's the word.

Venture.

Venture.

You are my gosh.

Thank you.

Thank you for sharing your vision, your passion.

And, And I'm gonna say I feel purpose because I felt.

I felt very much light as you were sharing all of that.

So what do you.

I just have a question now for you then.

When.

Because when you.

This is airing in November, which is Men's Health.

Right.

And so as you start to think about, like, what do you wish more men, right.

Especially immigrant men, understood about building generational wealth.

Because I. I feel like almost everything you're doing is open up the ability and the capacity for people to start to do.

To do that, you know?

Yeah.

So what do you wish more men would do?

I wish more men will.

Number one, if you're in this part of the world, anywhere you migrate to, you have to see it as a home first.

Right.

To be able to live the full potential of that, you know, of that terrain.

So I wish more men will invest in themselves first now.

Right.

Because it takes you to invest in yourself and be able to produce what will be enough for you to not invest in any other.

And it doesn't even have to be real estate.

Right.

It could be any other form of investment that you're sure that you're going to get good returns.

Right.

So that's what I wish more men would do.

Investing in themselves.

Right.

And betting on yourself as well.

Because what happens is when we make this big move and when we come into this kind of society or environment, we just want to live on the standard.

Like, you know what?

If I can do the bare minimum, I would be fine.

Right?

But if you bet on yourself that, yes, we all had dreams.

As a matter of fact, a lot of people left their own country because they had dreams that is actually bigger than their environment.

And there's no way I could obtain this where I am right now.

But you'll be surprised that when they finally make the move and they see how standard can be so easy when they move to, they just settle for that.

Right.

So I believe that as men, if you can still keep that fire burning and continue to portray that, yes, I may be in a more systemized environment, but still achieve it and take.

Taking advantage of that system, leveraging that system to be able to achieve what you want, because there's so much that we can do.

But if you want to do something that's bigger than you, just what I'm preaching, you need to be open to bring other people on board.

Yeah.

In the process, there'll be some awful Experiences.

You'll meet people that you know will teach you some bad lessons.

Right.

But all of that, again, is part of the process.

I, you know, and it's so funny.

I try not to judge, like, good or bad.

They teach you.

Yeah, they teach you.

You learn and you get to, you get to figure out how you use what you've learned.

Right.

Exactly.

Exactly.

There are some experiences, to be honest.

You can.

It's not about reading about it, it's about you actually experiencing it.

And that lesson will stick forever.

Right.

Just curious, do you have another venture that's kind of just percolating?

Oh, no.

We'Re settling for just a, for just a moment.

We're just.

I, I think I have enough problem to deal with right now.

That.

Okay.

So I just want to make sure there wasn't another one for me to pull.

Yeah, just, just, just this once for now.

And so I do have to, I.

Do have to ask because that is a lot like you've been talking about almost since you bought that first property in uni.

Like, you've been on the go.

So have you ever experienced burnout?

And if so, like, how do you actually maintain your well being and wellness in order to be able to run all these ventures and, and keep your, keep your inspiration for visioning going?

Yeah, I, I do, I do get it.

I, I'll say.

The most recent one was in August this year.

I was just.

Yeah.

Two months ago was recent.

Wow.

I know.

For obvious reasons.

Right.

And so I have to take some time out.

But.

Yeah.

How did you know?

Like, what were the signs?

I think it was.

It will get to a point where even your phone rings and he's just like.

Right.

Yeah.

You know, I just thought you start missing meetings and all of that.

Right.

And stuff.

You know, for me what happens is I just start forgetting my meetings.

Things I need to keep up with.

And before it gets really bad, I know that, yes, I need to kind of zoom out all of this, but my safe place, honestly, it's my family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My wife, she's.

Yeah, she's very, very, very supportive, understanding.

Yeah, she's.

Yeah, she's my special queen.

And yeah, I have, I have a small family and we're very, you know, kind of neat.

So when it happens, I just, just zoom home.

Right.

Fully.

Zoom on fully.

And yeah, in August we had to make a couple of travels, kind of get off, work everything out.

Yeah.

But, yeah, but after that, I always come back, you know, energized and ready, ready to give it a show.

But being able, the awareness of that is key.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Figuring that out and.

Yeah.

Knowing the signs.

Yeah.

And I like that because I don't often, I will be honest with you.

Like, you just kind of gave me an aha moment.

There are times where I realize, like, oh, man, my phone's ringing.

And I do.

I just.

I don't have the capacity to pick it up.

But I never really look at it as burnout.

Oh, yeah.

You know, but it is.

I.

It is.

It's a form.

Yeah.

So I'm going to take you through Rapper Thrivers because I promise to get you out of here on time.

So when you think of someone who inspires you, who comes first to mind.

Someone who inspires me, I always say my dad, but if I have to pick someone else asides him, I would say Barack Obama.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, I'll say Barack Obama.

You know, I actually thought you were gonna say your mom.

Ah, no.

Just because we've talked about mommy.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

True, true.

Yeah.

She's.

She's my person.

Yeah, she's.

I guess she's too close.

Yeah, that's why I didn't, I didn't.

Yeah, I didn't think about that.

But she here or she's still in Nigeria.

Oh, she's in Nigeria.

I was actually on the phone with her about.

Right before this.

Okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah.

What is a daily activity that helps you maintain your thrive?

Light workouts in the morning.

Light.

What do you say?

A light workout.

A light workout, yes.

Opposed to heavy?

Oh, no.

Every later in the evening, if I.

If I get to do it.

Okay.

So light in the morning, heavy in the evening.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

Every in the evening, if I get to do it.

Most of the times I miss that.

But lights work out in the mornings, you know, stretches.

Okay.

Oh, that's what you incorporate.

Okay.

I, you know, I.

Well, you may not know.

We'll talk about it in the B roll, but.

Okay.

What is a book that has helped you with this thrive.

Reach that poor dad.

Yeah, yeah, that for sure.

I picked up.

I picked up that early, very early, and that definitely helped.

Have you read it more than once?

Oh, yes, I've read.

I think my husband's like, read it like, yeah, 20,000 times.

What is an app that helps you with your thrive?

What?

What is an app on your phone that helps you with your thrive?

App that helps slack?

Oh, wow.

I haven't, you know, I haven't heard about slack in like, ages.

So use it for Your team, I guess.

Oh, for the team.

Yeah, for the team.

Yeah.

Well, that's why I dump stuff and run away.

Have they.

Is it good?

Like, they have great capabilities now.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I drop stuff and I just run away from it.

Okay, okay.

Slack.

I'm glad we're calling slack back.

And what's one misconception that people have of you is they see you.

Like, like I said, like I. I scroll like your highlight reels and all that.

What's one.

What's one misconception?

People, again, people, People perceive that I'll probably someone who's very uptight and, you know, too serious maybe because of the suits and all of that.

Right.

But trust me.

But when they, when they find me in my own settings, right?

And they get, okay, this guy is.

He's kind of cool still.

Yeah, you know, cool.

I'm very.

Again, people say I'm very, very funny.

Like, I'm really, really funny.

Okay, okay.

Do you make your own.

Do you make yourself.

Yeah, when I'm in my zone.

Life is not serious.

Do you make yourself laugh?

Sometimes when I reflect on my craziness and madness, I laugh.

You laugh.

Okay, that's good.

I. I laugh at myself sometimes.

But here's the joke.

True trans.

I think I shared with you, actually.

It's like, is this guy gonna show up in a suit?

You see?

You see?

Yeah, yeah.

So when I.

When people get me in my zone, you're like, yeah, they just.

They're like, they get surprised.

But yeah, I'm.

I can be very funny.

I.

Anytime I get not to wear suit, to be honest, I'll go for it.

Yeah, no, I do.

I. Yeah.

So the.

And.

And I didn't share this earlier, but literally I.

Because I came back from work and I got freshened up and it's an evening, by the way, everyone.

We're recording this, but before it's published.

But it's an evening.

And I was like, oh, do I wear a T shirt?

And I'm like, no, guys might show up in a suit, man.

So I was like, okay, I'm not going to dress up, but I'm going to put on.

Let me just put on something.

You know, I feel like we're well matched.

Okay, where do we find more of you online?

More?

We will be LinkedIn and Instagram.

LinkedIn, Instagram.

Okay, we'll share the link.

The website.

Our website will be raw group ca.

I'll share all the.

I'll share all the.

All the links in the show.

Notes.

Okay, and final question.

Finish this sentence.

I am empowered in my skin.

When.

When is it phrase of a particular time in my life or just whenever I.

You.

This is you.

You curate.

It's your story.

I am empowered in my skin.

When.

Obviously, moving to this part of the world was a total change.

A lot of time where I second guess myself and, you know, I just feel like, you know, the imposter syndrome and all of that.

But after I had my first son, I. I knew.

I. I know what I struggle with growing up and all of that, and I know that for me to teach, for me to do something that my son can emulate, I've always said to myself that all my.

Everything that wasn't able to do after 10, once I have my child and when I had my son, even after two years, I still struggle with it.

But it was.

I need to tell my story more.

I have to be happy with where I am, and I need to enjoy my journey whether it's pleasing or not.

Yeah.

So I. I would say, like, I. I feel like you just said, I am empowered in my skin when I'm sharing my journey.

My journey.

Yes.

Everybody doesn't have to resonate with it if it's one person, if it's two, that could say, you know what?

It happened to me too.

And this guy doesn't seems to be smarter than me.

So if he can do it, I can do it better.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yo, I am so happy I did.

I'm so happy I scrolled.

I'm so happy.

I broke my.

Broke my.

I broke it.

I broke my 20 minutes and I scrolled and I DM'd you and you responded, and here we are.

So thank you, Richard.

You are truly an inspiration, and you are creating avenues and pathways for generational wealth.

And that's in large part why I wanted to just kind of just understand, like, all, you know, what you're creating in this world and actually use my platform to help proliferate it.

So thank you.

Thank you for saying yes.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you for having me.

It's actually my pleasure.

I knew I was going to come for sure.

To be honest, nobody.

Nobody denies it.

I felt your energy.

I think it was last year.

Yeah.

So when you reached out, I was like, okay, definitely, I'm gonna show up.

Because I knew.

Yeah.

But, you know, thank you for reaching out.

Thank you for having me.

It's always my pleasure to share and thank you for creating this platform where we can share our own story.

And I'm very sure that there'll be one or two people for sure that this will resonate with and help.

I love it.

And I think the most important thing, and I'm just going to end on this is legacy was left here today.

Yes.

It's legacy.

Legacy, legacy, legacy.

Be encouraged to build something that is bigger than you.

Yeah.

And with that, this is where we say we're out.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

There you have it.

I trust that you are feeling more empowered in your skin.

As the late Dr. Maya Angelou said, when you get, you give.

When you learn, you teach.

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