Having lived with a progressive form of multiple sclerosis for ten years, Marianne Brooker’s mother voluntarily stopped eating and drinking in 2019, prior to the legalization of assisted dying in the UK. Marianne's book, Intervals, about her mother’s decision and her own experience caring for her at the end, positions her demand for assisted dying options within wider issues in the ethics and politics of care. As Marianne makes clear in conversation with Assisted Lab’s Vanessa Rampton, for assisted dying to be socially just, it needs to be grounded in a relational theory of persons and of freedom.