In this episode of One Small Change, Dr. Heather Tucker joins Yvonne McCoy for an inspiring conversation about finding true harmony between life and business. Dr. Tucker shares her journey from a successful career in information technology to becoming a business and life harmony coach. She highlights the importance of emotional intelligence, breaking free from patterns of chaos, and aligning with one’s soul purpose. Dr. Tucker also discusses simple yet powerful strategies for recognizing inner resistance, embracing change, and using calm to propel forward—offering tangible steps for entrepreneurs to create more time, freedom, and fulfillment in their lives.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Heather Tucker is a business and life harmony coach and trainer who specializes in helping entrepreneurs increase their calm, confidence, and cash flow. With a background in information technology and years of experience as a government researcher, Dr. Tucker pivoted her career to empower others to achieve emotional freedom, authentic success, and a more balanced life. Her coaching work emphasizes the integration of emotional intelligence, mindset shifts, and actionable strategies for long-lasting transformation.

Chapters:

00:00 Entrepreneurial Peace and Fulfillment

05:50 "Finding Joy in Authentic Paths"

07:24 Balancing Logic and Emotion

12:54 "Maximize Energy, Minimize Effort"

16:52 "Resilience and Positive Thinking Choices"

19:50 Breaking Patterns for Growth

22:46 Embracing Calm Amidst Chaos

27:03 "Embracing Daily Change"

29:06 "Lean In to Leap Forward"

Quote from Guest:

“When we actually acknowledge our feelings and are in that emotional intelligence, emotional wisdom, mental and emotional wellness and harmony, it actually allows us to even attract more of what we want because we know who we are.”

Links:

7 Secrets to More Biz/Life Harmony

https://anotherlevelliving.com/harmony/

Welcome to the One Small Change. As always, I am thrilled that

you're here to embark on this journey of exploration and transformation.

And I'm glad you're sharing it with me. And I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and

I bring almost 30 years of entrepreneurial experience and I have a

passion for discovering growth through the power of seemingly small

change. And this week we are talking to

the amazing Heather Tucker and she's going to

share something that sparked a remarkable transformation

and growth either in her personal or her professional life.

Heather, thank you so much for taking your time to come share with

me and my. My audience. And so we're

all curious to know what was the thing, what you do,

why you do it, what was the change that made you do it and made

you do it better than anybody else? Oh, Yvonne, I'm so happy to

be here on your show. Thank you so much for having me. By the way,

like, this is super exc. I love to be able to

speak, express and share whatever wisdom that comes from my

heart because you never know who this one conversation can impact.

So. Hello, everyone in Yvonne's World. I'm Dr. Heather

Tucker and I work with entrepreneurs who want to increase

their calm, their confidence and their cash flow so

they can bring more of their ideal clients into their business,

charge what they are, their value is, and

actually create more time, money and emotional freedom so that they

can be more present with their loved ones. Because that is

something that is just so important. We have so

much, only so much time, right? And how we utilize that

time wisely to do our calling and live our

purpose. It. And now is a time more than ever where people

are really called to step into their full light

and, and do their calling and do their will.

Because, yeah, now's the time. Everything's going on in

the world. We don't have to be crazy inside. And so

technically, I would call myself a business and life harmony coach,

coach and trainer. And it's just so

beautiful to be able to be of service because I feel like

our business is supposed to be have

flow, is supposed to have freedom. It's supposed to have space, it's supposed to

supposed to have that passion as we're

living our calling. And a lot of times as entrepreneurs, we can

operate with a heavy heart or overwhelmed mind and it

does not have to be that way. Our greatest wealth is our

peace of mind, body and soul. And your other question

was what led me to this? So what led me to

this? My background is actually at it. That's what my PhD is

in and age 27, I got my

PhD in information technology. 28,

I got my dream job working for the army as a researcher.

And a lot of times where we meet that epitome

or equivalent of quote, unquote success from an

external perspective, there was so much

sadness and misery and uncertainty inside. Right?

And I wanted to. It wasn't just me that was experiencing that. I was looking

around my community and my world, and I saw the same thing.

And I was like, there's something I'm supposed to do about this. What am

I supposed to do? And it

led me on the journey of coaching. Led me on the journey of coaching.

And once I discovered coaching, I realized,

why didn't they teach this in middle school? Why didn't they teach us in

elementary school? Oh, my goodness, I would have had so much of a

better life. But one of the messages that I want to

share, that's something that's so important, is to know that

we don't have to have a great past to have a great future. We get

to recreate and restore ourselves each and every day. And

what led me to this was even as I went into coaching,

there was still stuff on the life side that was really confusing,

that was really uncertain. And I recognized

how one area of life, if it goes ignored or

unresolved, will bleed into another area of life.

And this is why I talk about life, harmony, how to create peace on

all sides. So therefore, we just get to be who we are and

enjoy this journey. Well, you, you've already hit

on a whole bunch of things, okay?

So one of the things that, that I think is so important and that

I learned earlier on is

you can't be a split personality. You can't be, you know, you can't

compartmentalize. You know, this is my business. I'm going

to be this way in my business, and I'm going to be this way in

my life, right? And so one of the things that I say to

people is when they find a strategy or they find a model that they really

like, they should be able to use it both in their personal life and their

business. And because the more you use it, the more you internalize it,

the more it becomes part of you. So, you know, you talked about that harmony.

We're kind of like a water bed. You know, that's a really old

reference. You know, if you push it down one place, something happens someplace

else. They're. They're totally interconnected.

The other thing that I think you said was

so many of us have made decisions in our

life based on external things.

And so I think you know what that means. You know, for me,

it was, I was good at math, and I keep making all these decisions based

on I'm good at math. So when I went to graduate school, I was like,

I really want to do marketing, but I'm good at math. Right. So then I,

you know, I graduated with my, my MBA in finance and accounting,

ended up in a job that was perfect for, you know,

that, But I didn't really like that. So I didn't really like the job

either. You know, when you are, when you are following

yourself, you have so much more

energy because it's such a pleasure. And I, I just

put, I'm not supposed to be doing this much talking because this is your interview,

but you just happened to hit a spark that I was just really, I, I,

One of the things that I just said is when you can let go of

the exterior stuff and just be yourself, you attract the right kind

of client and they start to say some of the really

similar kinds of things. So anyway, so much about that,

but you've hit on a lot of things. I think that a lot of us

find ourselves in the position where we are where we think we

should be, not where we want to be. Correct?

Correct. First of all, thank you for sharing that, because so

many people resonate with that. Right? Like, it is

about following your soul plan. Right. When you

follow your soul plan and you let that true freedom

come from the inside out, then you enjoy what you're doing.

That's exactly what happened to me when I went into it. Yeah, I'm great

at computers, I'm great at technology, I'm great at all this, but it wasn't

feeding my soul. And really,

when we live from our soul purpose, our soul plan,

it impacts every single area of life in a beautiful,

positive way. So thank you for highlighting that. Can

I ask you a personal question? One of the things that

I found for myself was one of the reasons I think I was good

at math is that it was very objective and not

subjective and did not require any feelings. I mean,

it was, it wasn't like, you know, one plus one was

two and it made you cry.

I mean, I, I know that sounds really weird. And so one of the things

that has been like kind of a, a semi struggle for me

is to really let my feelings out. And when you talk about,

you know, that soul place or that inner place, a lot of us that have

that kind of objective background are like, that's way too woo

Woo. For me, and I think it just is, it's a matter

of. For myself is

being able to kind of trust my own gut feeling

to know and go with the thing that feels right

even if I can't quantify it, which is the way I typically

look at things. I mean that doesn't mean that I, I don't take a look

at things and, and you know, and

evaluate them. But when I'm finished all that, I go,

okay, here are two options. What's the one I really want to do.

Well and, and. Well, I don't know what the qu. Let me hear the question.

I was going to say something. Have you found that to be the same

thing that you were really good at it or that people are really good

at some things that are very objective and not

subjective and so they don't. They've never had to really

exercise their feelings or let them out. Of course.

And actually it's so funny. I'm glad that you mentioned that

because that is a big reason of the life harmony work that I

do because a lot of us, especially when we are

analytical or logical and we tend to

operate. That's just how a lot of us were naturally

raised to be. You know, I remember my mom

would say put your feelings in your pocket and keep going. Like, don't worry about

your feelings. Like, like, it's like. But the thing is, is that part about

the water ball, the volleyball that you mentioned, or I call it a volleyball

but if we don't pay attention to that side then it creates

more pressure and over analyzing and overreaction on the mental

side. And it's really about when they work together, the

thoughts and the feelings, the mind and the heart, then

it creates a beautiful synergy where it's not like

one fighting against each other. It's like it actually creates

wisdom. When we operate out of our wisdom,

every step that we take is right. And so it's funny because yeah I didn't

years ago I would have never even understood about energy or

emotions or any of those things. A lot

of times we put the blinders up for just things that happen in

life that is also 100% normal and common.

And my work is about really helping us

be or bringing it back to more to feeling to

being like that that allows like when we actually acknowledge

our feelings and are in that I like to say

emotional intelligence, emotional wisdom, mental and emotional wellness

and harmony. It actually allows us to.

What's the word? How can I say this? It

allows us to even attract more of what we want

because we know who we are. So. Right.

So, so one of the things that I just wrote in a post and it

kind of surprised me was, you know, one of the things I talk

about is that we all have a unique power and, and

we already have it. It's us, it's who we are. It's, it's,

you know, it's what we're good at. It's the things that we did. Right. That

we developed in our company. You know, it's like the recipe is different for

each of us. Right, right. Things that I said is, one of the

things that I found is since I've gotten really clear about my message and who

I really want to serve, I have found

that all the people that I'm talking to, all the potential clients

that I'm talking to are saying, we love your energy. And

I don't think that I feel like I've changed at all.

What has happened, I think is that I have probably just

felt freer to let it come out. Right?

So now the people that I'm attracting are the people who love that energy.

Huge, you know, energy. And for other people, I'm just too

much. Yeah, you know what, it's

great, it's. Actually really great

filter because, you know, you hear on a regular basis,

you're, you're so good at this. You're so good at this, you know,

because you're being yourself. And I think that that's something,

I don't know, I think that's something that, that we have never really

been exposed to. I mean, I'm not, I, I gotta tell you, I'm not

one of those people who go, the universe will bring this to you.

I mean, that's a little bit, that's a little woo woo for me. But I

do think that if you think about what it is that

you want, then you, you recognize it better.

I mean, you know, you may be getting the same opportunities that you

had before, but you didn't recognize them, you know, and

maybe that is whatever the woo woo part

of it, but, but it works. So it is.

You know, whereas when we're talking about the other side, where we're operating with our

analytical, our, our mind, right. Our subjective part that

you were saying, we end up operating with

90 effort. My, one of my colleagues put it this way one

time, 90% effort and sometimes maybe only

10% energy. But when we shift

that from operating from the amazingness of who we are, where

you're talking about owning your uniqueness and your values, that includes Your

thoughts, your feelings, those natural gifts and talents that we have,

we end up operating with 90%

energy and only 10% effort. So that

is the thing that makes it why so much

wiser to operate that way than continuing to

do our overanalyzing and overthinking. And a lot of times people

think that that's not common, but it is 100 common

for a couple of reasons, and is totally 100

changeable as well. Well, you know, my brain goes to.

Because I'm good at math, right? It's kind of like it's the

difference between one plus one. You know, I'll say two plus

two and is four versus.

Well, that's not a good example either. Let me try it again. How about three

plus three is six, but when you put your energy

and your analytical, it's more like three times three, and then it's

nine. You get exponential growth because you're clicking on all

cylinders and they're working together. They're not working against

each other. I. I had a formula once. It was called. And I still

love this. It was called you. Times change, times follow

through equals success cubed. And. Yeah,

yeah. And. And I use that when I was losing weight, like, when I was

struggling, you know, to lose weight, it was like, okay,

was it something I was doing? I needed to learn something.

I needed a limiting belief. I needed to get. What was it about me

that, you know, needed something. And then the change

was what was I able to change or what wasn't I changing? Kind of

what was. What was in there. And then the other piece was the follow through.

Because nothing. Nothing works really well with

that thought. Follow through, right. And so what

I found was the success that you gained was not just the

weight loss, but your mindset and just, you know, on all

kinds of other things that happen. And I love that

formula. And my friend was like, as soon as I see success

cubed, I'm like, this is math I'm not getting.

But it is. You have. You know, it affects everything. It doesn't affect just one

thing is the point to that, I think. And what happens is

to. If we're not aware

of the energy of things and also the feelings and emotion of

things, we can be able. We can get caught up in the emotional

roller coaster. It's like, it goes like that. Like, all right, we're doing

well. We're going up the hill. We're. We're growing. And then all of a sudden,

something happened. Significant emotional event, but from

ourselves, from our loved one, something. And there's this drop down in energy.

All right, I'm gonna go ahead and keep going up the hill and you. And

then it's like you have to drop. It drops down again. And as the more

that we do this, we're in that bouncing back. You know, I remember

one of the biggest times I'm just gonna bounce back, you know, that

actually becomes harder to bounce back up. And

so why not be able to have it where.

Okay, I'm rising. I'm doing this easier. Oh, significant emotional

event happens. Oh, my goodness. Oh, that's interesting. And still continue

to rise. So therefore, it's like not being

blown away by the wind or the uncertainty that things

that happen, but actually going with the wind. And

I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, I have two things that I want to

make sure that we talk about jumping on what

you just said that for me, that not, you know,

not like having the ups and downs. Although I've often said I'm so resilient,

I haven't got the sense to stay down. But. But. But the

other part to that is when I took a course in

positive thinking, you know, it's like when something

happens, you have a choice. You can either go do your default like you

always did before, or you can be curious and say,

what can I learn from this? What. What can I take away from this? And

that has been like, a huge

blessing for me in terms of controlling that roller

coaster. But here's the thing that I want to talk to you about, because this

is something that you said way at the beginning, and I didn't

hit on it. And that was the idea of calm

versus chaos. And I think

that. I think, all right, let me see how

I can put this. As an entrepreneur, I think there's a

difference between

excitement and curiosity and unpredictability

and chaos. Does that make sense?

Yeah. It doesn't mean that there are. There might not be some

chaos, but chaos to me means you're like, totally

without direction and being pulled in all kinds of different

directions. And, you know, you feel like you are

at the whim of the world. It

can be like that, but it could

also be something that just also can throw you off kilter.

Meaning. How can I say that?

So, for example, maybe, you know, you're in the calm or

something happens outside of your control. Significant

emotional event, traumatic event happens with family member,

loved one, you, losses, like all of these different things can

cause us to easily be. If we're in this, this

maybe a normalcy of calm, it can go

into chaos. And there's a reason why that happens.

And I think the biggest picture is to know that

your body has a conscious and an unconscious to it. Your mind has a

conscious and an unconscious to it. Your heart has a conscious and

an unconscious to it. So it that automatic pattern,

a lot of times is in the unconscious, like, we could easily go to

the default. And what you had been talking about is

actually interrupting the pattern. Because it's

funny, a child raised, one of the things I had said

before, a child raised in chaos. Life can become

chaos. We tend to normalize chaos. So it's

not even necessarily we attract what we

want. We really attract what we are.

If there's some chaos that's happening that happened years ago, we

can sometimes repeat the pattern of that unconsciously until

we make the conscious choice to interrupt that pattern.

And when there's nothing that's creating this turmoil or this

conflict inside, then nothing externally can impact

you. So then, you know, we talk about really

leaning into what's going on, letting go of what we need to let go

of so we can leap forward, because a lot of times we'll hold on. So

when I was talking about that roller coaster, we can hold on even

unconsciously to the heaviness and the baggage

of that roller coaster as we're trying to move forward. So it's like,

okay, we're born. We have a beautiful backpack on, and

it's totally empty. Happy, baby. Yay. Okay, something happened.

We put some rocks in the backpack, and as we're going through life, these b.

These rocks keep getting added. But it's such an unconscious weight

that we don't even know is there. Right. And

it's funny because a lot of times after people experience

the work and stuff, they're like, I feel so much like, I had no idea.

We have no idea. The heaviness is sometimes we can carry, especially

as that resiliency, because I remember that was

the biggest thing. Okay, strong, super. Just go through force through. But

sometimes that can cause burnout, sometimes that can cause overwhelm and

uncertainty. But it's the part about the feeling. I just

want to revert back to this part about the feeling. Because that is the

part that is like a big

cave that people. The biggest resistance

comes. And I get it. It's scary to go into this place. It's

scary to go to the next level. But in order for us to

us get to the next level towards freedom, it

requires us to be able to get comfortable in something uncomfortable,

break free from it, break through from it, and Then be able to

easily walk in with a more calmer way into our

destiny. I. There's a quote by Robert Campbell

and he said he was a Irish immigrant. He came

here years ago, like so I was not born. But

he became a very successful businessman. And he says

the cave that you fear to enter holds the treasure that you seek.

What's the cave? What's the treasure? A lot of times we

may get to, into one cave, overcome the fear, and then we're in a whole

new. We get to the treasure and then all of a sudden, as we're going

on our journey, here comes another cave. Okay, yay. Do we. How do we. Do

we face it? We have to redefine fear.

Redefine fear from forget everything and run, which we typically

do to face everything and

rise. And then we get to feel everything and relax. And

that's really where the beautiful grounding calm

becomes sustainable. I think one of

the things that for me as I was

changing and growing was I came from a background

kind of chaos. And so when there wasn't

chaos, it felt uncomfortable.

And you tend to, you, you tend to make it, you

tend to make me have to fill that space.

And, and when, when, when you've got that calm,

you're, you're almost in that place where I'm

waiting for the other shoe to drop. Something's going to happen. So you, you

almost, you don't let yourself enjoy it because you're,

you're used to this other thing. So yeah,

is a bumpy ride, but it is definitely worth it. So let me do this

before we run out of time. Okay? We've, we've hit on, I

think, some really amazing ideas for people

and you have a gift. And I want to make sure that you talk about

the gift and that you also make sure you give us some

action steps that we can take because I believe you haven't really

learned something until you applied it. So correct

about the gift. Okay, so the free gift that I have for you

today is seven secrets to more biz Life

harmony. And it's because you have the power. You have

the power to increase your time, your money,

your influence, your impact. And these secrets

are going to share with you how I give you seven secrets that spell

out the word harmony. And then over the series of the

next seven days, I give you seven more secrets and they

spell out another word that I think that you'll like.

It really is about

leaning in. I'm going to share with you the steps now. Our, our three

step process here is Lean in. You got to

lean into what's going on most of the time. The things that

we don't let that. Going back to that quote, the things that are going to

bring us the biggest fruit are the things that

we're probably have a lot of resistance to. So it goes back to

that part where you were talking about. Let me just take a sip of water

here. It goes back to what you

were talking about of when you have a decision, right.

You have a decision. And there is,

you know, sometimes we're being blown away. It could be a. A chaotic decision,

or maybe you're to create chaos about the decision.

Some decisions, not all opportunities are good opportunities. We

know this. But some decisions may have a

chaotic component to it. Even though it's an energetic.

Yes. Most of the times

you want to check in to, okay, what is the energy behind us?

There's always the energy behind whatever the decision

and all. Also the transformation if

it's not an energetic. Yes. Usually for me, I'm like, no,

I already. So it's about being able to know

your decisions and own them. You ever said, like, part of me wants to do

this, part of me wants to do that. That is actually an example of an

internal conflict. Literally. It can be like a tug of war in the

mind. And the longer that tug of war goes on,

then the longer we stay in indecision. And a lot of times we

get to waste a lot of time and energy. Indecision. So

these secrets are going to be able to support you in getting clarity with that.

That is fabulous. And I can't believe. I mean, I do believe we're running out

of time because. Because I'm having a good time.

So just ask you this.

What was the. What was the last time you did something new for the first

time? My

answer to you is, every day.

Every day. Seriously, is there lies the beauty of

entrepreneurship? It's never going to be the same. It's a new

opportunity, a new season every day. You know, it's funny how I used

to live in Florida and the seasons never really changed there,

Right? So it's funny because, like, then you recognize how. Wow. People don't really.

There's not a lot of shift. Well, up here in Virginia, we have four

seasons. We're forced to change every single quarter,

even if you don't like it or like it or not. But what if

every day could be a new season and a new opportunity?

You know, there is, literally. Especially because I live

the mom, wife, and CEO life. Every day is completely different.

You Know, our mind resists change, but the only

constant is change. Really embracing these changes. And

every day and seeing my kids in a new light, seeing myself in

a new light, seeing my husband in a new light, and

that my interaction, Interactions with. Is that evolution.

My interactions with myself and others and seeing that

evolution, man, that is new and fresh every day. And that's a

great thing. Yeah. And, I mean, kids will show you new ways

all. All the time. Okay, time

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change so that we can embark on,

you know, tiny shifts that are going to give you,

like, incredible transformation. And if you haven't listened to the

first episode, you should. And I'm also doing a thing called

the Quarterly Clarity Call, because it's really hard for

me to not talk on my own podcast. So I get a half an hour

to talk by myself. So there'll be two episodes of that is up

that you can see. So

I hate to say it, but what's your last words? What's the takeaway that you

want the audience to have? The last

takeaway is that when you lean in, it

allows you to fully let go. And guess what? That allows

you to leap forward. There's things consciously and

unconsciously that are not called to be in your new season,

and that is a beautiful thing. You know, it's the. The

analogy of we can hold on to all that we

know so tight, it can actually prevent the very things

that God is trying to bless us with from coming in. So what are you

called to lean into? What are you called to let go of? And how

is that going to allow you to leap forward and go ahead and get your

free gift? And we look forward to seeing you again soon. Thank you so much,

Yvonne, for having me today. This was awesome. Thank you. And

for everybody else, remember, change is simple, but it's not always easy.

It requires courage and resilience and a willingness to step outside your

comfort zone. So I hope you will continue to join me on the one

small change and until the next time, stay very

curious. Heather, thank you so much.

Absolutely. My pleasure.