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Welcome aboard Polyester Airlines for another trip back in time to the decade when Sonny and Cher were our King and Queen.
Even though summer just started, your captain, Patrick Walsh, is taking you back to school because your final destination is September 9, 1973; the night SATAN'S SCHOOL FOR GIRLS premiered as the ABC Wednesday Night Movie!
A young woman goes undercover at an exclusive all-girls fine arts academy to investigate her sister's mysterious death and finds herself entangled in a secret devil cult's unholy schemes.
SATAN'S SCHOOL FOR GIRLS is currently available to watch for free here on YouTube. (It's listed incorrectly as "Salem School For Girls," but it's the right movie and the best quality copy on the platform.)
Directed by David Lowell Rich, written by Arthur A. Ross and starring Pamela Franklin, Kate Jackson, Roy Thinnes, Lloyd Bochner, Cheryl Ladd, Jo Van Fleet and Jamie Smith-Jackson.
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Attention please. This is the final boarding call for Polyester
Speaker:Airlines flight to the 1970s departing from Alberto Gate VO5.
Speaker:Get ready for thrills, chills and another episode of it came from
Speaker:the seventies. Good evening, passengers. This is your pilot, Patrick
Speaker:Walsh baking. And it is my pleasure to welcome you aboard Polyester
Speaker:Airlines Flight 912 to the year 1973. Polyester Airlines is
Speaker:the world's only airline that breaks the laws of physics just so
Speaker:that you can watch vintage television. And on behalf of the
Speaker:entire cabin crew, thank you for choosing us. Our final destination.
Speaker:This evening is September 19, 1973. On this date, Billie Jean King
Speaker:will defeat Bobby Riggs at the battle of the sexes. Singer Jim Croce
Speaker:and poet Pablo Neruda are about to die. But more importantly,
Speaker:Satan School for Girls premiered as the ABC Wednesday night
Speaker:movie also in September of 1973. Everybody loved Paul Simon
Speaker:like a rock. But there had to be a morning after if we could hold
Speaker:on to the Delta Dawn. What's that flower you got on? Passengers
Speaker:have been informed by the cabin crew that due to an electrical
Speaker:problem in the kitchen, we are unable to serve hot meals tonight.
Speaker:Only called sandwiches. But don't be too upset because Polyester
Speaker:has a way with B O L O G N A. At this time, I'd like to announce
Speaker:your co pilot for this evening. He's flown with me before
Speaker:on the dark night of the Scarecrow. And he's coming to you
Speaker:straight from America Town, wherever the hell that is. If I'm
Speaker:the captain, he's Tenille. Please welcome back co pilot Tradine.
Speaker:Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached cruising altitude, so feel
Speaker:free to kick off your hush Puppies, light up a palm wall and
Speaker:enjoy your flight to Salem Academy, otherwise known as Satan
Speaker:School for Girls. Welcome back aboard co pilot Trae Dean.
Speaker:Hey, Patrick, how you doing?
Speaker:I'm doing good, Trae. Are you ready for this?
Speaker:I am ready for this. I'm ready to go.
Speaker:Are you sure? Because last time you went to the 80s, you haven't
Speaker:gone to the 70s before. Have you gotten your shots?
Speaker:No, this was before I was even born. Well, actually, no, it was.
Speaker:I was only a year old when this came out.
Speaker:I met the last time you flew with me, we were on an excursion
Speaker:that. We didn't go to the 70s, we went to the 80s.
Speaker:You weren't even born back. That was. I was born with this movie.
Speaker:But yeah, we're going back even further this time. So the fashions
Speaker:got really funky.
Speaker:They did. And by the way, did I hear a little bit of judgment in
Speaker:there. I wasn't even born when this movie was.
Speaker:I was born. I was just young. Okay, one years old.
Speaker:I was also too young to be watching it as well. But we don't
Speaker:need to talk about my age. I'm 27. Fuck off, all of you. All right.
Speaker:I'm assuming you haven't learned to fly a plane since then
Speaker:either.
Speaker:No, not at all.
Speaker:Good.
Speaker:Me neither. Yay, we're all gonna die. Okay, so we're really
Speaker:excited because we're gonna be talking about Saint School for Girls.
Speaker:One of the things I love about this era of movies, and not just
Speaker:TV movies, was the wonderfully lured titles that they would come
Speaker:up with. They don't do that anymore.
Speaker:No, no, they don't. This promised a lot. School for Girls.
Speaker:Did it deliver is another question. Was there Satan? Yes. Was
Speaker:there school for girls? Yes, they delivered.
Speaker:It gave you what it said it was in the package, I suppose,.
Speaker:There is a little bit of a caveat emptor because it's a made
Speaker:for TV movie of the 1970s. And like I always say on this show, the
Speaker:role of this TV movie of the 1970s was that they were made on
Speaker:the quick and on the cheap. Which means we're not able to show
Speaker:you anything. We're going to have to talk you through everything
Speaker:that we're going to do. One take, lots of, lots of dialogue exposition
Speaker:without actually ever showing you anything happening. Because that
Speaker:would cost money.
Speaker:So much walking. So, so much walking. This had more walking than
Speaker:in a violent nature.
Speaker:It's really, it's really true because the movie is only an hour
Speaker:and 10 minutes and 98 of those minutes are Pamela Franklin walking
Speaker:around with a lamp.
Speaker:I'm telling you, like when someone goes is like, I'm going to
Speaker:go to the house next door. It follows them the whole time in real
Speaker:time as they walk. It's. Yeah, there's a movie there somewhere,
Speaker:but there's a lot of walking.
Speaker:Blessed her hut. They were always patted. Like, you can tell
Speaker:like this. This could have been a movie, like a, a 47 minute
Speaker:TV episode somewhere of something. And then they just patted
Speaker:the hell out.
Speaker:They did. They. Man, I was not prepared.
Speaker:Welcome to the Seventies. I told you you weren't ready for the
Speaker:70s. This is how they all were.
Speaker:Dark Knight of the Scarecrow didn't have this much walking.
Speaker:No, that's because he was tied to the scarecrow thing.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:Okay, well, fortunately, I mean, we, we're here to talk about
Speaker:this particular movie, but if you're not in the mood for a luredly
Speaker:titled horror movie of satanic panic. There were other things on
Speaker:TV on 9-9-1973, for instance over on CBS, 8 o' clock, Sonny and
Speaker:Cher.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:So with with special guests Danny Thomas and Telly Savalas. Stars
Speaker:are popping star stars of popping. And the thing is this is
Speaker:back in the day where the the movies of the week started at 8:30
Speaker:for the homosexual of the future physically choose to leave
Speaker:Sonny and Cher a half an hour early to come over to watch this.
Speaker:Because clearly you wanted to come. We wanted to see both.
Speaker:Yeah. And if Talisa Vaughs hadn't performed yet then you were
Speaker:really in trouble.
Speaker:Well yes, yes, of course.
Speaker:You don't want to miss telly.
Speaker:And then the other things on CBS were canon which I only vaguely
Speaker:remember with William Conrad special guest Martin Sheen though
Speaker:and something called Don August which was a. Another cop show.
Speaker:It was a very macho night. This is like everything on every
Speaker:network was super macho except for Satan School for Girls because
Speaker:counter programming except they could fight the power ladies.
Speaker:But it was Dan Dan August which is a cop program which started
Speaker:very young. Burt Reynolds and Norman Fell from Three's Company.
Speaker:What a weird pairing that is.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But on top of that too, they'd make it even more of a beefcake night.
Speaker:The special guests that episode were Billy Dee Williams,
Speaker:Harrison Ford and David Soule.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:It was hunkalicious. Over on cbs. And NBC with the programming
Speaker:was again all macho related. It was Adam12 which I don't remember
Speaker:much about a little bit.
Speaker:Yeah, me too.
Speaker:And they were showing it. They were showing an actual movie. Movie.
Speaker:Movie. That was in the movies. It was Maroon to starring Gregory
Speaker:Peck which is about three astronauts who get stranded out in
Speaker:space. It was like Apollo 13 but not okay. But yeah. All just
Speaker:three men. Three men stuck in a. Stuck in a tin full of sir.
Speaker:And they all thought they were gonna die.
Speaker:So they all had sex.
Speaker:Yeah, I'm gonna say at least one circle jerk.
Speaker:But yeah. So the NBC as always bringing up the rear with shitty
Speaker:programming. But over here on NBC, before Saint School for Girls
Speaker:there was a show called Love Thy Neighbor which was taken from
Speaker:a British show. It was just about white people that move into
Speaker:a segregated neighborhood. This episode was called the Minstrel
Speaker:show where the white couple maybe performing in the church minstrel
Speaker:show is not a good thing to do.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:The 70s were a wild time.
Speaker:Wait, a church minstrel show?
Speaker:They're having a. Yeah, because it was still Part of the
Speaker:culture back then. Like, you could still do a mixture show and
Speaker:people would say it wasn't racist.
Speaker:It was still, oh, that's not good.
Speaker:But granted, it was. It was. I remember they were doing the Archie
Speaker:Bunker thing and trying to teach people that this is a bad thing
Speaker:to do. But the fact that they had to do this in primetime TV is
Speaker:amazing to me. It's amazing to me.
Speaker:I remember. Give me a break. Years, decades later, had Joey Lawrence
Speaker:and no Carter doing the same thing where he shows up dressed up
Speaker:in blackface. Yeah. So I guess we didn't learn our lesson. So no
Speaker:Carter had to come back and reteach it.
Speaker:It's a lesson that bears repeating.
Speaker:Unfortunately.
Speaker:It bears repeating. But did you see the episode was called the
Speaker:Minstrel Show? I'm like, oh, God, Jesus. The fucking seventies,
Speaker:man. And what I love, too, is that this movie was so short that
Speaker:he still had an hour of TV to go afterwards. And there was a show
Speaker:called Owen Marshall Counselor Law, which no memory of, but it ran
Speaker:for five years and starred Lee Majors.
Speaker:Wow, Lee Majors.
Speaker:Pat Harrington from Schneider from One Day at a Time, and Russell
Speaker:Johnson, the professor from Gilligan's Island. So not a great.
Speaker:I mean, not a great night. There's really nothing else on TV
Speaker:but that, folks. Okay, so buckle. And we're talking about Satan
Speaker:School for Girls. Satan's School for Girls. Let's get into
Speaker:the nitty gritty. Satan School for Girls was directed by David Lowell
Speaker:Rich. David Lowell Rich did a whole bunch of the Airplane in Danger
Speaker:movies that were in Airport movies. Watching. No, he did a few.
Speaker:He did Airport 79, the Concord one, SST, Deathlight, and also he
Speaker:did Horror at 37,000ft, starring William Shatner. And the
Speaker:guy who played the art teacher in this, his name just fell out of
Speaker:my head. Right, right.
Speaker:Roy Thinnes
Speaker:Right. Th was in that. And it was her very first episode of. It
Speaker:came from the 70s that we recorded with Toppy Smell. It was
Speaker:the first movie. It was the first slide I took.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:And it was written by Arthur A. Ross, Very prolific career. He
Speaker:won. He had an Oscar nomination for his script for Brubaker,
Speaker:which starred Robert Redford. But he wrote the scripts for Creature
Speaker:from the Black Lagoon and Creature Walks Among Us back in the
Speaker:50s.
Speaker:So that's not bad.
Speaker:Oh, it's not bad. We'll allow.
Speaker:We'll allow.
Speaker:Matches this movie. Okay. Same. Same writer.
Speaker:All right, so, Trae, what's the basic plot? Satan School for
Speaker:Girls. What's going on?
Speaker:Okay, I am going to have to get the characters names because
Speaker:I get them all messed up with my nose. Okay. So you have Elizabeth,
Speaker:whose sister Martha has committed suicide. So Elizabeth is
Speaker:Nancy Drewing it and going undercover to Martha's school and
Speaker:to see what happened, what drove her to suicide. And so she
Speaker:goes undercover, Charlie's angel style at the school. And I'll
Speaker:leave it at that.
Speaker:Yeah. And uncovers nefarious things.
Speaker:Very nefarious.
Speaker:I bet you'll never guess what's going on at the school. Based
Speaker:on the title. I bet you'll never guess.
Speaker:Well, the mystery becomes I guess who's good and who's just a
Speaker:bad teacher.
Speaker:Yeah. Or exactly what. Exactly what is going on. And Right. You
Speaker:know, something bad's going on. You know, it's something satanic.
Speaker:But exactly what is the mystery that's going on for quite
Speaker:some time. One of the reasons you're here, Tradine, is because
Speaker:it stars not one, but two Charlie's Angels future Charlie's
Speaker:Angels. And it's Charlie's Angels plot.
Speaker:Oh, very much so. Very much so.
Speaker:Trae loves this kind of plot. Over on Damian Wonka Lewis, he's
Speaker:always say, oh, it's another Charlie's Angels episode where they
Speaker:have to go undercover and figure out what's going on. That's
Speaker:exactly what's happening here. So you got a Charlie's Angels episode
Speaker:with Charlie's Angels, but they're evil Charlie's Angels. The
Speaker:Angels are devils in this one.
Speaker:Yeah, Evil Charlie's Angels.
Speaker:That.
Speaker:I did not think about that. That's true. The angels are the devils.
Speaker:Yeah. You have a lot of people pretending to be who they're not
Speaker:and being really lousy at it.
Speaker:There's a lot of things going on.
Speaker:Bless this movie.
Speaker:Bless it. Bless it. I mean, it is what it is. It is what it is for.
Speaker:I mean, I. I. Was this your first time, yo?
Speaker:Yeah. I've never seen this before.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:This was not what I was expecting.
Speaker:No, it was not what I was expecting the first time. It's grown
Speaker:on me over the years.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Now that I know what I'm in for, I settle into it better and
Speaker:I have a better time with it. I know it's just going to be a lot
Speaker:of talk and I appreciate how much things have changed because,
Speaker:man, there are some things like, wow, wow, wow. Dude, we love
Speaker:sherry. Back in the day, my goodness, women were allowed to drink
Speaker:sherry. That was all they were allowed drinking. There's a lot of
Speaker:sherry drinking in this.
Speaker:This was early 70s. I was expecting late 70s. I was expecting
Speaker:more Aaron Spelling camp, and I got was more. It felt like Dark
Speaker:Shadows almost the TV show, just very kind of understated and
Speaker:a little thriller. Well, detective story.
Speaker:Okay, so our star is Pamela Franklin, who I adore. I've always
Speaker:loved Pamela Franklin. She's a British actress you might know her
Speaker:from. Oh, she was in the prime of Ms. Jean Brody with our. With
Speaker:our girl, Maggie Smith. The Innocence, the Legend of Hell House.
Speaker:That's why I knew her from the.
Speaker:Nanny with Betty Davis. Food of the Gods. And for camp value.
Speaker:I love that she did all this great. She had this commitment of
Speaker:horror, even from when she was a kid. And then she wound up. Trae,
Speaker:you haven't been here a while, and I'm not sure if I've done that.
Speaker:Was doing this when you were on last? I'm judging people by how
Speaker:many love boats and fantasy islands that they do. That's the
Speaker:true test of their career. But she did. She only did one Love Boat,
Speaker:but she did four Fantasy Islands and two Hardy Boys. Pretty
Speaker:high.
Speaker:Yeah. Oh, it is. It is. That's not bad, because I knew her from
Speaker:Hell House, but that's about it. And then she has her haircut.
Speaker:Just. I don't know.
Speaker:She's got the Rosemary's Baby pixie cut going on.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:And she's. Bless her. She is. She's struggling with that American
Speaker:accent.
Speaker:Yeah, she is.
Speaker:It's not bad because when it. When it slips, it makes her sound
Speaker:like she's from Massachusetts, which is where we're set. It's that.
Speaker:It's that or that Connecticut lock show thing. It sounds like every
Speaker:now and then. So it's. It all works. So walk me through the opening
Speaker:of the movie. What is going on at the opening of the movie?
Speaker:Okay. It starts off with her sister Martha. Martha Sayers, who
Speaker:looks like Jam Brady. Like Jam Brady. Kind of gone to seat.
Speaker:And she's gone to se. A little bit judgy, but please go on. My first.
Speaker:By the way, my first note was ironed hair. Remember ironed hair?
Speaker:Ironed hair. Yes.
Speaker:Please continue, Trae.
Speaker:And she's. She's on the run. She's running. And she goes to a
Speaker:gas station, and she's just very distressed.
Speaker:Operator. Yes, collect call, please. Collect to Elizabeth sayers,
Speaker:Los Angeles KO5 8937. Thank you, Martha. Singers. Oh, please
Speaker:hurry, please. She has to be there. She told me she'd be there.
Speaker:She has to.
Speaker:Well, and she, like, is on the phone and she, like, whips out a
Speaker:cigarette And a lighter, like, just like, boom. That sounds like,
Speaker:oh, Jam Brady. Like homeless. We're on the run, you know, Jam Brady
Speaker:run away.
Speaker:Well, Jam Brady in her dawn portrait of a teenage Runway kind
Speaker:of that. That came later. That's this movie we'll be covering
Speaker:at some point, but I'm not ready for that yet.
Speaker:But she ends up in a house, and an unseen force rushes her. And
Speaker:she screams, and that's it.
Speaker:Please, no.
Speaker:And she screams and that's it. So we know something. She scared.
Speaker:Something's coming after. And it gets her.
Speaker:And the guy who's was like, hey, what are you doing around this
Speaker:house? Is the scary sickle guy.
Speaker:She ain't here.
Speaker:She told me she'd be here.
Speaker:You her sister?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:She just went to the store,. Asked me to give you a key.
Speaker:Your sister just told me to let you know that you went to the
Speaker:store. Which means that that house that she's in is Pamela Franklin's.
Speaker:Her sister's house. What the does Pamela Franklin do? Because
Speaker:that house is gorgeous. His lakeside house is stunning.
Speaker:That's true. And they're. They're orphans.
Speaker:Maybe that's it. Maybe it's that I think you might have answered
Speaker:the question that they're orphans. That maybe this is all inherited.
Speaker:But still I said, okay, she's got this house. And the whole crux
Speaker:of the plot is that, as Trae said, is that the sister turns up
Speaker:dead. It turns out that she's discovered hanging. That it looks
Speaker:like she's hung herself. But Pamela Franklin, whose name is. She's
Speaker:going by two names in this because she goes into cover. But
Speaker:I'm just going to call it Pamela Franklin. Like, no, I don't
Speaker:believe any of this. Does not like her. She wasn't a melancholy
Speaker:girl like you're saying. So she goes undercover at the school.
Speaker:She's like, it's gotta be something there.
Speaker:Lieutenant, my sister did not commit suicide. She had no reason
Speaker:to kill herself. She was happier than she's been in years.
Speaker:But no one could have gotten into the house. The doors and the
Speaker:windows were all locked from the inside.
Speaker:She did not commit suicide. Why would she catch a plane from
Speaker:Massachusetts, hire a car at the airport, and drive all the way
Speaker:to my house and to kill herself?
Speaker:Well, there's no rationale with suicide. Ms. Ayers, I understand
Speaker:how upset you.
Speaker:Are, but if you don't understand anything. If she was going
Speaker:to kill herself, there were worse times. Like when our parents
Speaker:died or when we were separated by different schools hundreds of
Speaker:miles apart. But not now.
Speaker:But you did admit that she was.A melancholy girl,
Speaker:that she was lonely.
Speaker:Well, you hardly saw her during the past few years then.
Speaker:Ask her friends at schools.
Speaker:We did.
Speaker:Did you try her ex roommate, Lucy Denbrough?
Speaker:Do you really think she would make that much difference?
Speaker:Yes. She was her roommate for two years. She knows Martha.
Speaker:Okay, Ms. A, we went to Ms. Lucy Dembrow in Massachusetts and
Speaker:to some of the other classmates at the academy and the
Speaker:headmistress. No one could give us any further information.
Speaker:I can accept that.
Speaker:There just isn't enough evidence for us to pursue it any
Speaker:further. I'm sorry,. But the case is closed.
Speaker:Not for me it isn't.
Speaker:She's going undercover the school. Which means she left whatever
Speaker:world she was in.
Speaker:Paid a college tuition, went through admissions, had to do all
Speaker:that with a.
Speaker:Fake name, which means she has a fake record. So what, what do you
Speaker:do? Because there's no husband. I'm like, there's a hut.
Speaker:Because it's 1973. Maybe she got a rich hut. Nope, nope. Got money
Speaker:to burn.
Speaker:And how old is she? I mean, it's a school for girls, so she's
Speaker:school age, but yeah, you're right. Yeah, she has a nice house,
Speaker:I guess. Did she get a plane ticket? Yeah, yeah, but, but, but
Speaker:she. Well, yeah. So she has no life, just money.
Speaker:Just lots of money. Just money, money, money and time. That's
Speaker:all she's got.
Speaker:And a really nice haircut, a sensible haircut.
Speaker:Yeah. Nobody's gonna be able to grab her from behind with that
Speaker:haircut. One of my problems with these TV movies is that they,
Speaker:like I said, they work for cheap and on the, on the, on the
Speaker:quick. Nobody's getting paid extra to be in these movies. They're
Speaker:all on contract to the studio where ever they're contracted to
Speaker:do whatever the studio tells them. So they will pack these movies
Speaker:with unnecessary characters just to get people working. And particularly
Speaker:in this beginnings, these beginning scenes, there's so many
Speaker:characters that don't need to be here. So many characters don't
Speaker:need to be here. Oh, so many detectives that we're talking to.
Speaker:And I don't care.
Speaker:Yeah, they never come back and never. Yeah. So she has to go and
Speaker:talk to the detective ad nause about how her sister would never
Speaker:kill herself. And to this detective and it's back and forth
Speaker:banner and we never see him again. But they build up kind of
Speaker:relationship between them in that one scene. Who's a good actor?
Speaker:Yeah, he was fine. I don't know who he is. Because this is.
Speaker:There was so many people and they said. I said, I can't look everybody
Speaker:up. I'll be doing this all night. I'm sorry. I have a plane
Speaker:to fly. Look it up yourselves. And also it's like detective or captain
Speaker:or officer. I don't know which one he is.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. Once we get to the. The school, it kind of settles
Speaker:down, but takes us a little while to get there.
Speaker:Yeah, well, but before we get there, we do have a little stop.
Speaker:We have to stop and visit Lucy Denbrough first.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:These college women, these women who just graduated college
Speaker:that are living like 40 year old Spencers. It's amazing. It's
Speaker:the 70s. It's such an amazing time.
Speaker:That apartment was like, oh, five apart. Like three apartments
Speaker:put together. Just the walls alone had said. Like the butterflies
Speaker:pinned to the little thing on the wall and then all the plants
Speaker:and yellow wallpaper. It was a lot.
Speaker:It was a lot. None of it was good.
Speaker:No, no.
Speaker:But I do enjoy the sequence. Because I love Lucy Denver. Because
Speaker:Lucy Denver was a girl on the edge. And it takes us a while to
Speaker:figure it out. What's going on here?
Speaker:I just. I couldn't fly into the funeral. I mean, there was no
Speaker:warning. None. I told the police when they called it. I mean,
Speaker:just great. Martha was busy and working. So was I. If you don't
Speaker:like the. The sherry, I can run up some vodka. Please. Don't
Speaker:worry about it. I don't drink much. I just grabbed this little
Speaker:place right after graduation. I sure hope my guardian sings for
Speaker:the loot.
Speaker:Lucy, did Martha keep a diary or anything like that?
Speaker:Oh, you know better than that. No memories for her. life was now.
Speaker:Well, something was going very wrong. It had to be
Speaker:nothing I knew of. Sure you wouldn't like some vodka?
Speaker:No, thank you. She wasn't upset or anxious or anything?
Speaker:Oh, anxious maybe about our graduation and you and her getting
Speaker:your own place and finally being together.
Speaker:Nothing else?
Speaker:Like what?
Speaker:Someone. Something at the school maybe. It has to be something
Speaker:there. No, it had to be something that happened at the academy.
Speaker:I
Speaker:would know if there was anything else. No, I'm telling you,
Speaker:no. I'm going there. Well, you won't find out anything. Nothing.
Speaker:Nothing.
Speaker:I've got to try.
Speaker:You won't tell anyone you saw me or did you talk to me? Promise
Speaker:me. Do you understand and know one? I'm sorry. Martha's death and
Speaker:everything. I. Please forgive me. Yes, of course.
Speaker:You won't tell the school that. That you talk to me? Will you.
Speaker:No, no, don't do that.
Speaker:Yeah, I'll be playing the audio from it. But she's great because
Speaker:she's like, no, no, no, it's fine. Martha was fine. There was
Speaker:no problems with Martha. There was no problem at all with Martha.
Speaker:Would you like some sherry? I'm gonna have some sherry. Would
Speaker:you like some vodka? She's going through a lot of liquor in
Speaker:this very short scene. So I'm like, okay, this is a woman on the
Speaker:edge. She's hiding something.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker:She snaps towards the end.
Speaker:That's what the script does. Everything seems inevitable. Like,
Speaker:it doesn't try and have a whole lot of swerves or surprises.
Speaker:Everything is kind of right there, you know? You know, okay,
Speaker:something's wrong with the school. And.
Speaker:And you said too much. And they know. So you're gonna. You know,
Speaker:the girl's gonna be dead soon.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And she. She will be. It'll be. It's another half an hour, but
Speaker:you put. Yeah, but finally we get to the school that's totally
Speaker:in Salem, Massachusetts, and not in Southern California at all.
Speaker:I've never been to. Well, I've been to California. I've never been
Speaker:to Massachusetts, but, yeah, I don't think that they. That was a
Speaker:Massachusetts. I don't think they have, like, palm trees and they're
Speaker:witches.
Speaker:They can have whatever they want.
Speaker:And then she just, like, drives right up, parks in the middle
Speaker:of somewhere and gets out of her car. And then the girls know
Speaker:immediately who she is and come running up to her to be the
Speaker:welcoming committee.
Speaker:Well, there's only 12 girls at the school and there's only two professors.
Speaker:Someone's showing up.
Speaker:True.
Speaker:True is noteworthy. There's a part in the seat because we meet
Speaker:the three. The three other girls that. The three. The three
Speaker:sidekick girls. Roberta, Jody and Debbie.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Roberta Lockhart. We are the welcoming committee from
Speaker:your class. Now, the dragon lady had us memorize your short welcoming
Speaker:speech. I'm afraid it'll make you throw up.
Speaker:I'm Elizabeth Morgan.
Speaker:We know. We've been expecting you. This is Debbie Jones.
Speaker:Hi.
Speaker:And that's Jody Keller.
Speaker:Hi.
Speaker:Hi,
Speaker:Jody. Why don't you get the bag?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:The dragon lady wanted us to show you around to see that you were
Speaker:fed. Hi. House settled. Made you feel like one of us within 15
Speaker:minutes of your arrival. How are we doing?
Speaker:I've been at home already.
Speaker:That's good. The dragon lady said. Does
Speaker:the lady have another name?
Speaker:Headmistress? She is a bad painter. A worse sculptress. And
Speaker:a lousy musician. She's the perfect headmistress for an academy
Speaker:of Fine Arts.
Speaker:Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
Speaker:But this place has a marvelous reputation.
Speaker:Hey, listen, a lot of the professors are super, really super.
Speaker:Jody's got a crush on the head of the Fine Arts department. We all
Speaker:do. It's a school hobby.
Speaker:Uhhuh.
Speaker:If you like that sort of thing.
Speaker:One is Kate Jackson, who I adore.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The other one is Cheryl Ladd, who's also fabulous. And the other
Speaker:one, I don't know her name, but it's Debbie. Doubter. Dead Debbie.
Speaker:Debbie is a roller coaster of emotions.
Speaker:Prozac didn't exist yet. Leave her alone. Leave her alone.
Speaker:Yeah. Debbie is without her meds.
Speaker:She's without her meds, but they're the welcome wagon.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And I think it's Kate Jackson's like, hey, I forget what
Speaker:she said. Yes. The dragon ladies that have to take her to see
Speaker:the head mistress, whose name I don't get because they always refer
Speaker:to her as just the dragon lady all the time. So I'm just going to
Speaker:call her that. Or the headmistress, like we were taking
Speaker:to see the dragon lady. Like, oh, she's awful. But you have to
Speaker:worry about her. Some of the professors are really great.
Speaker:A lot of the professors are super. Really super.
Speaker:Both of them.
Speaker:There are two classes at this girl's academy, this Fine Arts Academy.
Speaker:There's a fine arts class and a science class. And that's it.
Speaker:That's. That's all you have? And two men teaching it.
Speaker:Yes. Oh, can we talk about the teachers? Can we talk about the teachers?
Speaker:Yes, yes.
Speaker:Mentioned earlier that Roy Thinnes is one of them.
Speaker:So if illusion and reality are different, they're also very much
Speaker:the same. What we think we see is as real as what we actually see.
Speaker:Example, optical illusion. How many see the squares coming out from
Speaker:the canvas projecting out hands? Right. How many see the opposite?
Speaker:The box is going into the canvas. Okay, now what I'm going
Speaker:to do, on signal, I'll clap my hands, you'll blink your eyes and
Speaker:then stare right into the drawing. And those of you see the
Speaker:reverse of the image you just saw, raise your hands. All right.
Speaker:Ready? Blink. Okay, now stare at that canvas. Hands. Yeah. Good,
Speaker:good. Everybody but our new classmate, who's obviously concentrating.
Speaker:Sorry, I guess I wasn't concentrating.
Speaker:I think you were concentrating on something and therefore locked
Speaker:into your mind the very first image you saw. You have to let your
Speaker:mind hang loose.
Speaker:But I did blink my eyes,
Speaker:but not your mind. The artist has to be free to see things in different
Speaker:ways. To dare to see things unlike anyone has ever seen them
Speaker:before.
Speaker:Roy Thinnes was an actor who was in everything.
Speaker:I've heard the name, but I never really saw him much until this
Speaker:movie. And he could get it. He was. He was nice.
Speaker:Yes. Oh, so you're in league with this. Your league, I see.
Speaker:Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, if. If I have to. If he's the one asking
Speaker:me to sign my soul away.
Speaker:Yeah, he.
Speaker:He incredibly prolific actor. He did tons and tons of movies and
Speaker:he also did tons and tons of TV horror movies, some of which will
Speaker:be covering here. Like I already mentioned the horror at 30,
Speaker:000ft with William Shatner, which is fantastically campy. Fantastic.
Speaker:Same year as this. He was a regular on the TV show in the Invaders
Speaker:in the 60s, but he was in Black Noon, which is a really early
Speaker:70s horror movie which mixes. Mixes witchcraft and a western. Two
Speaker:genres don't go. And it's really good. Two love boats. No,
Speaker:fantasy islands. Three murder she wrote in a Super Train. Remember
Speaker:Super Train?
Speaker:Oh, that looks like one season five episodes got canceled. I remember
Speaker:Mad Magazine was making fun of it for being a big bomb. That's how
Speaker:I know about it. Yep.
Speaker:He's. He's a Professor Clampett. And here's the thing. This
Speaker:is the teacher that all the girls are in love with. And also
Speaker:turns out he's Satan. Spoiler. Sorry. He's Satan.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And they named him Professor Clampett. I know damn well the Beverly
Speaker:Hillbillies was on at this point, but I think they did that
Speaker:on purpose as a. As a. As a misdirect, because the other professor
Speaker:is Professor Delacroix. Professor Delacroix is played by
Speaker:Lloyd Buckner. Do you know who Lloyd Buckner is?
Speaker:He's the father of Hartbauchner.
Speaker:He sure is. Well done trading.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, I looked him up. A Hartbuckner. Yeah. Supergirl and
Speaker:just 80s B movie hunk.
Speaker:Another. Yeah, another prolific Canadian actor coming over
Speaker:here, taking our jobs. We've covered him before in the show. He
Speaker:was in Crowhaven Farm. I'm having problems with the connection,
Speaker:so I'm gonna have to turn off my camera.
Speaker:Okay, that's fine.
Speaker:Lloyd Bodner did this is how awesome Lloyd. Lloyd Botner was.
Speaker:Four Fantasy Islands, two Love Boats, two Charlie's Angels, one
Speaker:BJ and the Bear, and a Manimal.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Okay, he wins so far.
Speaker:You won with Manimal and BJ and the Bear. You go, boys.
Speaker:Greg evigan and Simon McCorkendale.
Speaker:Thank you very much. But he's the.
Speaker:He's the.
Speaker:He's the meaner of the professors. He's a psychology professor
Speaker:and he's distinctly mean. And he's got an attitude towards the
Speaker:girls that makes him seems like he's going to be the villain.
Speaker:So I think that's why they did that.
Speaker:Very sadistic. Likes to play the mind games. Yeah. Definitely
Speaker:set him up to be the obvious villain and the other guy as the
Speaker:warm, comforting. You know, I'm my students are my friends kind
Speaker:of teaching.
Speaker:Let's have a wine party.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And this is the 70s, so it's okay that everyone wants to have
Speaker:sex with them. It's totally okay. That's totally acceptable.
Speaker:Well, I mean, wouldn't you.
Speaker:Yes, but normally we wouldn't make that the point in the movie
Speaker:because we'd get canceled.
Speaker:Well, they don't ever have. Don't say they have sex.
Speaker:I know, but everybody talks about how hot he is. And like, you
Speaker:see the way the girls look at him? It's inappropriate. Like the
Speaker:wine party feels wrong.
Speaker:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:As a teacher, you couldn't do that. Now you. That would not be
Speaker:allowed. But weird to see. Meanwhile, the other guys has the
Speaker:loudest mice in the world.
Speaker:Yeah. What's the next class?
Speaker:Rats.
Speaker:You'll see that the eating cycle of the rodents will become
Speaker:more intense. They'll work harder and fight harder to get food.
Speaker:That sometimes will be where they expected and sometimes it will
Speaker:not. We'll teach them that the food is always behind the red door.
Speaker:And when they have that well learned, we'll take the food away
Speaker:and put it behind the white door. And when they learn that, we'll
Speaker:switch again and again and again. To what end?
Speaker:To frustrate it. Drive her crazy.
Speaker:Why would I want to do that, debbie?
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Of course not. I might as well ask the rodents. As asked you, Elizabeth,
Speaker:what's the purpose of this experiment?
Speaker:To make them passive.
Speaker:Why would we want to do that?
Speaker:So that they're not able to fight back again.
Speaker:Exactly. To show that a mind can be broken to any level by manipulation
Speaker:and locked on that level. Make it believe what we want, to act as
Speaker:we wish. Dismissed.
Speaker:There's a little mice going through the. Going through the maze.
Speaker:At one point, wasn't it supposed to imply that one mouse
Speaker:had killed the other mouse and there was like a bunch of blood and
Speaker:gore in the maze?
Speaker:Somebody killed the mice. Something happened with the mice.
Speaker:All the Mice were dead?
Speaker:Well, no, but, like, in the very beginning, it was like they
Speaker:killed each other. I don't know. It was. It was.
Speaker:No, no, I don't think they had at that point. But no, everything.
Speaker:All the stuff that he's talking about is great. I'll be playing
Speaker:some of the audio for it. Because this last time, this is not
Speaker:my first time in the movie. And it never really hit me this time
Speaker:what he's talking about. He's talking about mind control through
Speaker:manipulation. How you. How you can horrify a subject into becoming
Speaker:passive. Is that what's going on here?
Speaker:We're all apt to react more strongly to terror than any other
Speaker:emotion. To react violently, even to kill out of terror. But don't
Speaker:let this experiment fool you. Humans don't show their terror, as
Speaker:do rodents, running and screeching. Sometimes terror can
Speaker:break down all the fibers of resistance so that. So that complete
Speaker:passivity takes over. And human reaction, though passive, is
Speaker:most dangerous in this state of terror.
Speaker:So, circling back to Dr. Clampett's class, his lecture is
Speaker:all about optical illusion. About what you see and what you think
Speaker:you see. His whole focus is that this illusion and reality and
Speaker:things that you think you see are just as real as the things you
Speaker:can see. Which now, if you take it into terms of the movie,
Speaker:there are these girls that are killing themselves because they think
Speaker:they're being pursued by something. So it's like they're priming
Speaker:these young women to become victims of witchcraft. So these two
Speaker:classes are going hand in hand. One is about never being sure
Speaker:about what you see. And the other is about terrorizing people
Speaker:into submission. Is this all about making women passive? Is this
Speaker:like Stepford Wives? Which it kind of is.
Speaker:It does. Especially with Debbie, because poor Debbie. Well,
Speaker:particularly.
Speaker:Well, I mean, to be fair, jumping ahead. I'm sorry, this is
Speaker:how we go. But, like, when you get to the end and you see all the
Speaker:girls about to do what they're about to do, they all have those
Speaker:Manson girl smiles on. There's nobody home. They're separate girls
Speaker:now.
Speaker:Well. And even towards the end, they talk about how he saved
Speaker:them and gave them identity and gave them purpose.
Speaker:I'm worried about Dr. Clampett.
Speaker:Don't worry about him. He can take care of himself.
Speaker:He's something else. I've never met anybody like him.
Speaker:You never will. For all of us in school, and especially those of
Speaker:us without parents, he's fulfilled a very special need.
Speaker:Sounds to me like you're in love,
Speaker:maybe. Very special. Kind of love. See, when I first came to the
Speaker:Academy, I was really lost. He gave me confidence in myself. He
Speaker:gave me a belief in my own
Speaker:ability?
Speaker:I was thinking of the word power.
Speaker:Power to do what?
Speaker:Not that kind of power. Power to live. Power to never feel vulnerable
Speaker:again. Never feel like your life is right on the edge of being
Speaker:wiped out. And if it were, nobody would care. Nobody would give
Speaker:a damn. He
Speaker:gave you all that and more.
Speaker:He can't help you if you fight him. He can't help you if you resist
Speaker:him. Who wants to fight him? Right
Speaker:now? I could use all the help I can get. Well, I guess it was easier
Speaker:for you. You had parents
Speaker:and a family. No, all I had was a sister. She's gone now. You
Speaker:know, I think we're getting
Speaker:Yeah. So it's very much a cult. Yeah. Whether it's Satan or
Speaker:whomever. Yeah, These women are definitely part of a cult and
Speaker:given themselves over completely.
Speaker:I do want to throw the headmistress some credit to whatever
Speaker:the. I don't know what the character's name is, but that was.
Speaker:Jo Van Fleet.
Speaker:Thank you. Jo Van Fleet. I was not familiar with any of her work,
Speaker:but she was. Won the book. She won an Oscar. She's an Oscar winner.
Speaker:She was the best supporting actress for east of Eden, so good
Speaker:for her. And her part wasn't doing much for me until the end.
Speaker:She has a great mad scene. She goes mad in the last reel, and she's
Speaker:very effective.
Speaker:So she is.
Speaker:She woke me up. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The other things that
Speaker:she was in. She was in that Cool Hand Luke. Roman Polanski is
Speaker:the tenant. And for the musical theater Queens, she was in
Speaker:the TV version of Cinderella with Leslie Ann Warren back in the
Speaker:60s. She was the evil stepmother.
Speaker:Interesting. I knew her from east of Eden. I went through a James
Speaker:Dean phase, but, yeah, I mean, she was. Especially when she goes
Speaker:crazy. I never quite figured how she fit into the overall mystery
Speaker:because she gets a call at one point that seems to be referencing
Speaker:the new girl, and she seems shocked and horrified. So I just.
Speaker:This is William speaking. Yes,.
Speaker:Yes,.
Speaker:Yes. The new girl just arrived.
Speaker:The dots don't connect. And it's okay. I mean, I know they don't
Speaker:have to.
Speaker:No, they don't. This is a very thin.
Speaker:They don't have to, because you just yet. The idea that she's
Speaker:being controlled. She's not she's maybe the head, but she's not
Speaker:in control. Someone else is calling her, telling her what to
Speaker:do.
Speaker:Right, But.
Speaker:And also she. When she's having the sit down speech, welcoming
Speaker:Pamela Franklin, things she says are strange.
Speaker:Now, this academy has its own tradition under different names.
Speaker:It has been here in this very place for over 300 years, which sing.
Speaker:Oh, you know, Salem Academy, gone through many owners and many,
Speaker:many names, but it has been unchanged for 300 years. So we're
Speaker:just getting that there's something bigger going on here that
Speaker:she's somehow a part of. Or is she. Whatever. It's hard to say because
Speaker:all of a sudden I get distracted because, you know, when
Speaker:you check into the Salem School for Girls, you get handed.
Speaker:What do they give you? Is it.
Speaker:They give you a lantern, you get your own little lantern.
Speaker:An oil lamp.
Speaker:An oil lamp. Because sometimes the power doesn't work. And I was
Speaker:like, oh, now I.
Speaker:Want you to have one of these. Since we're some distance from the
Speaker:main power lines, we often have quite erratic and exasperating
Speaker:electrical failures. It's nothing to be frightened of. You
Speaker:just keep that in your room. Usually the blackouts last only a
Speaker:short time. Now, here's your curriculum, and this is your list
Speaker:of classes for today.
Speaker:Because shit's about to get real gothic in here. You know that
Speaker:when the school gives you your own lantern, you're gonna need it.
Speaker:He's a ladder in your diaphanous God.
Speaker:I was even thinking. I was like, okay, and they're gonna hand
Speaker:you the school uniform as a Daphne scan.
Speaker:I was like, check. And we get. Get them both. Check and check for.
Speaker:Forget him. For 37 minutes straight. And then the longest walking
Speaker:around montage of film. I know 1973 was a long time ago, but flashlights
Speaker:were invented, okay? They existed.
Speaker:They use batteries, Patrick. They're on a budget there.
Speaker:Come on. Joe Van Fleet.
Speaker:Well, I was gonna go back one little bit I thought was kind of
Speaker:interesting is that when she was first interviewing her, she's
Speaker:like, oh, we been here forever. A lot of traditions, but
Speaker:they're changing. I guess it's good to change traditions. And then
Speaker:the girl's like, no, I don't think it is. You know, some traditions
Speaker:need to be kept. And then the headmistress, like, good. Good for
Speaker:you. Like, she had passed. Yeah, a little manipulative there.
Speaker:We here at Salem Academy feel that girls of good breeding are more
Speaker:easily groomed into young ladies of culture and refinement.
Speaker:We do have our traditions here, but then I suppose like most
Speaker:traditions, they're meant to be broken.
Speaker:Not all of them.
Speaker:Oh, good. I, I'm so pleased to hear you say that. I don't know,
Speaker:it seems to me that so many young people today, especially in
Speaker:the arts, tend to have little regard for traditional techniques,
Speaker:the classic forms.
Speaker:Picasso was a realist painter before he was an impressionist.
Speaker:It's a lovely reference, my dear.
Speaker:No, she's right. I mean, the thing that she said was absolutely
Speaker:right. She said, yes. You know, throwing so many new girls
Speaker:are just ready to burn everything down, you know, for the
Speaker:new ways. She's like, well, Picasso learned classical painting
Speaker:before he became an impressionist. So you have to learn
Speaker:the rules to break the rules.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And she liked that.
Speaker:That.
Speaker:And that's what she's there to do. She there to learn their rules.
Speaker:She can break their rules and burn this place to the ground. That's
Speaker:what she's there to do. Pamela Franklin.
Speaker:Yeah. And yeah, because there wasn't a lot of the character, but
Speaker:when they did have little bits for the headmistress, she was really
Speaker:good. I liked her. She, she, she had potential.
Speaker:Yeah. Like I said, there's a lot of wandering around because she's
Speaker:trying to figure out what happened to Martha and tell me about
Speaker:Debbie's painting.
Speaker:So, yeah, they have a, A, A art class and Debbie has a painting
Speaker:of like a little attic room. And you're looking through a window
Speaker:and into the room and staring out through the window is the sister,
Speaker:Martha, screaming. Yeah, just screaming in horror.
Speaker:And Debbie's gloomy view. I hope she brightens things up a bit
Speaker:when she goes back to work or when she finds a new boyfriend.
Speaker:So of course Pamela Franklin's like, look, I gotta get up close
Speaker:to Debbie and find out what's going on with this painting.
Speaker:And I was never sure. Is Debbie, like, part of the group or
Speaker:is she the outcast? Because all the girls seem to be making fun
Speaker:of Debbie. The teachers making fun of Debbie. And Debbie's like
Speaker:Carrie. I mean, she's almost like Carrie from. Because she's just
Speaker:limp hair and just very passive and defeated.
Speaker:I think what I got from it was that just like Martha, just like
Speaker:Lucy Dumbro, they were part of the group and now they're.
Speaker:Now they're out.
Speaker:No, they're not out. They're. They're getting scared. They're not
Speaker:as committed to the cause anymore. Yeah, they want to leave
Speaker:the group now. So you can't leave this group. But this is why
Speaker:I said we. We have we. But the other professor's like, you have
Speaker:to incur passivity by terrorizing them. Which is what they're
Speaker:doing to Debbie.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Oh, yeah. We're going to scare Debbie back into the fold. And if
Speaker:she doesn't come back, we're gonna have to kill her. Which is
Speaker:what happens eventually. Poor dead Debbie.
Speaker:And then I felt bad for her. She went to the ringer. She had a
Speaker:hallway freak out.
Speaker:Now then when you step on its tail, it squeaks. But then when you
Speaker:step on its head, it doesn't squeak. Can you tell me to point
Speaker:at that tail? On the other hand, don't. Don't forget to close
Speaker:the white door when you. When you.
Speaker:And then she forgets everything. And then.
Speaker:The doctor should be here soon. Debbie. We should have told
Speaker:the headmistress to notify her family. No, we can't.
Speaker:Why not?
Speaker:Doesn't have any parents. He's only got a guardian. He's somewhere
Speaker:in Europe. Debbie, the doctor will be here soon.
Speaker:What for?
Speaker:I don't need a doctor. Have you had this before? Had what? Don't
Speaker:you remember coming out of the psych class and suddenly screaming
Speaker:like you were in some terrible pain? I don't feel any pain. Hey,
Speaker:what time is it? Six thirty. I want to go wash my face. I don't
Speaker:want to be late for Dr. Clampett's wine party.
Speaker:She had the dowdiest dorm room on the planet.
Speaker:It was like something of a Little House on the Prairie almost.
Speaker:It wasn't even. It was like. It was such an old lady's room.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And nothing match I get much like Lucy's apartment. Nothing went
Speaker:with anything else in there. And I know it was 1973, but I remember
Speaker:things were ugly, but they were at least matched.
Speaker:They matched well. All the different patterns of the SIM color
Speaker:scheme, at least.
Speaker:So a lot of this watering around is just Pamela Franklin trying
Speaker:to find this room.
Speaker:I liked your painting. You're the only one who does. The girl in
Speaker:it. She's very pretty. Is she a student here?
Speaker:Was.
Speaker:Martha Sayers. She's dead now. Were you very close?
Speaker:Not really.
Speaker:I just thought that she.
Speaker:What?
Speaker:Fitted into that room.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:The room that she saw in the painting.
Speaker:And it's all really boring. You could skip. You could fast forward.
Speaker:And what is she gonna find?
Speaker:Okay. But anyway.
Speaker:And so, yeah, she finds the room and then she gets Kate Jackson
Speaker:at some point and brings Kate Jackson down there. Yeah.
Speaker:The professor was down there. The Professor Delacroix was down
Speaker:there. And she got scared.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:He was down There we'd never find out.
Speaker:But then he's holding a straight a razor with him.
Speaker:Yeah, he was in the coal shoot for some. Whatever. Things don't
Speaker:get explained. It's okay because this was filler. But I do
Speaker:want to talk about Kate Jackson as the sidekick. Main sidekick.
Speaker:She is so good in this movie. She's the saving grace of the movie
Speaker:for me.
Speaker:She is so casual and natural that she just feels like I knew her
Speaker:in real life. Yes, everyone's very stilted with her speech and
Speaker:she just comes around and just everything out of her mouth just
Speaker:seems natural. Even the stupidest lines.
Speaker:Roberta? Huh? I think it was Professor Delacroix that I saw in
Speaker:the cellar last night. What makes you think it was him? That
Speaker:basement, the wine cellar, that room, it's all like his rat
Speaker:maze. Maybe we better look at it again. We could go down there
Speaker:tonight after everybody's gone to sleep. What if I'm wrong? That's
Speaker:not what scares me. What if you're right?
Speaker:Well, that was the other thing. Like I said, like it always
Speaker:comes back to with these TV movies that they were made on the
Speaker:quick and on the cheap. They shot in days and usually you didn't
Speaker:get rehearsals like you were getting handed the script the day
Speaker:of. Like, maybe not if you were the lead, you'd get more of
Speaker:a script. But if you were doing one of these characters that
Speaker:only hit two or three scenes, you'd get the.
Speaker:The.
Speaker:The sides like as you were shooting. So you never really got
Speaker:a chance to come up with a character or really refine anything.
Speaker:You were. So you were just doing your best audition take. See,
Speaker:the acting was never great, but everything Kate Jackson does
Speaker:feels really grounded and like I said, natural. She just feels like
Speaker:she's having a conversation. And also she's stunningly beautiful.
Speaker:She's so beautiful.
Speaker:And a non complicated kind of way.
Speaker:Yeah, just very, very natural. She isn't, you know, she's not blonde.
Speaker:She just doesn't seem to. I don't know, to put together. She
Speaker:just seems like you would know her in real life, almost that kind
Speaker:of beauty.
Speaker:But like I said, I believe everything out of her mouth, which
Speaker:makes the betrayal hurt so much more.
Speaker:It does. And the one thing she always does, she always seems intelligent,
Speaker:like there's something going on behind her brain or behind her
Speaker:eyes.
Speaker:Yeah, that's her essence, as we like to say in the business. That's
Speaker:her main character trait. That's always with her. No matter
Speaker:what she does, Kate Jackson always comes across as intelligent.
Speaker:She leads with her. With her brain first. Yeah. And it works really
Speaker:well here.
Speaker:It does. And even as I know, like, towards the end. Don't follow
Speaker:her. She's bad. I was like, I would follow Kate Jackson.
Speaker:I would, too, because I have to. It's Kate Jackson, and she's
Speaker:so good.
Speaker:And then there's also Cheryl Ladd, who's not bad herself.
Speaker:No, no. She doesn't have as big a part.
Speaker:No. But she gets a name. Only her. And K. Jackson and Debbie are
Speaker:the only girls that get the names. Everyone else is just background.
Speaker:And she works for the headmistress. We get some scenes
Speaker:with her.
Speaker:You needn't watch the clock, my dear. I'll let you know when your
Speaker:time is up.
Speaker:Yes, ma'.
Speaker:Am.
Speaker:How is Debbie?
Speaker:She's fine.
Speaker:Now, Jody, have you been aware of any unusual conduct in your teachers
Speaker:or your classmates? I mean, other than Debbie's outburst?
Speaker:No, ma'.
Speaker:Am.
Speaker:Salem Academy. Yes, sir. Yes. Yes, sir. It's the Boston police.
Speaker:She gets to interrupt the wine party, say, lucy Tempo killed herself.
Speaker:Lucy Deborah committed suicide.
Speaker:To which Debbie said, it's two of us. Well, that makes two of us.
Speaker:It's two of us gone.
Speaker:In my mind, if I delivered the nylon, I would need a glass of whiskey
Speaker:and a long cigarette. That makes two of us. Two down.
Speaker:Two down. Well, I love when Cheryl Ladd is working for the headmistress
Speaker:as, like, her little helper. She's in her office doing work, and
Speaker:she leans over to look at the time. The headmistress is like, don't
Speaker:need to look. I'll let you know when it's time to go. And I
Speaker:was like, wow, what a look.
Speaker:She's on. She's on. What do you call it? The st. That work. The
Speaker:Student Work Program. Man, she's on. She's got those loans to
Speaker:pay back for this college with two.
Speaker:Well, and also, they don't have any parents, so, yeah, no one's
Speaker:paying for their bills.
Speaker:Yeah, which we don't know yet. We don't know that this is. This
Speaker:is also an orphanage.
Speaker:I've just thought of another one of your great coincidences. Something
Speaker:all three girls had in common.
Speaker:What?
Speaker:They. All of them had no one to help them. All their parents are
Speaker:dead, Elizabeth. So are mine, but you don't see me killing myself
Speaker:over it. Come on.
Speaker:Wait. What?
Speaker:That's Trae loves his orphan movies. He loves orphanage.
Speaker:Hey, no. That's why they don't have two teachers. Because none of
Speaker:the students really paying tuitions.
Speaker:Because they're all charity cases.
Speaker:I mean, they're all charity cases because they have to turn him
Speaker:into Satanists.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of running around, a lot of mystery.
Speaker:Debbie winds up dead.
Speaker:Yeah. She tries to leave. Something comes after. And that was
Speaker:sad. I like Debbie.
Speaker:It was sad because. But one thing I did want to say at a certain
Speaker:point, Pamela Franklin goes to Debbie's room in the middle of the
Speaker:night to ask about. You know, to grill her about the painting while
Speaker:there's a power ratter. So more walking around with the diaphrag
Speaker:and his guy and the lanterns, which I'm not going to complain about,
Speaker:ever, no matter how long it goes on, because it's happening.
Speaker:And during the scene, we get another one of my favorite horror
Speaker:movie tropes that I don't think I've talked about on any show
Speaker:before. One of my favorite horror tropes is perfectly timed
Speaker:lightning strikes.
Speaker:Oh, yes.
Speaker:So they come in as punctuation to the conversation.
Speaker:I didn't know her, but that girl's suicide really shook me up.
Speaker:Lucy. Lucy was nice. She was really nice. At the party, you said.
Speaker:That makes two of us.
Speaker:Martha.
Speaker:Martha Sayers. She committed suicide, too. Isn't that the girl
Speaker:in your painting? What do you think made them do it? I don't know.
Speaker:It's like Hillary in Delacroix's maze. Maybe we all are.
Speaker:I wish those lights would come on again. I meant what I said about
Speaker:your painting. I really do like it. But that Martha girl seems
Speaker:scared to death in it. I paint what I feel. What is she so scared
Speaker:of? I don't know. Was it that room? Something in it? Maybe.
Speaker:Where is.
Speaker:Where is that room, Debbie? It's so strange. It's so cold and
Speaker:dark. It looks like a dungeon. It's like it was a memory. It's like
Speaker:it was a room I saw a long, long time ago. Do you know where?
Speaker:Here. Here. I'm almost sure. I am sure it was right here in this
Speaker:building.
Speaker:It's so corny, but it's so good.
Speaker:The thunder has a sense of dramatic tension. It's like. Wait,
Speaker:wait, wait, wait, wait. They're not done talking now.
Speaker:It's like God's way of going, ooh, the thing you just said. O burn.
Speaker:You burnt. Debbie winds up dead.
Speaker:What's the meaning of this after hours? You know the rules.
Speaker:Debbie's dead.
Speaker:What?
Speaker:We found her body in the cellar.
Speaker:But how?
Speaker:We don't know. It looks like she committed suicide. Oh.
Speaker:Oh, dear God.
Speaker:They evacuate the school so that everyone Leaves except for Kate
Speaker:Jackson and Pamela Franklin and.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, or so that's what we think.
Speaker:It would be best to clear the girls out of here for the night.
Speaker:Why?
Speaker:What are you going to do?
Speaker:Just clear the school.
Speaker:No. No, I won't let you do anymore. I don't know why I've let
Speaker:you do what you do done. But it's over now. It's all over.
Speaker:Oh, please.
Speaker:Please.
Speaker:Don't make me do anymore.
Speaker:Jessica.
Speaker:Yes, Dr. Crampert.
Speaker:You'll do as you're told.
Speaker:Yes, Dr. Cranford.
Speaker:You'll tell them and the rest of the staff it's because of the
Speaker:power failure. And tell them that the power company has notified
Speaker:us that it can't be restored and it would be dangerous. I want
Speaker:everybody out.
Speaker:Yes, whatever you say.
Speaker:It won't be long now.
Speaker:It's almost over.
Speaker:They all state the cops are coming, Debbie. And the. The headmistress
Speaker:is like, sure, I'll call the cops. And she's like, talking to
Speaker:the cops with her thumb on the receipt on the.
Speaker:Hello? This is Mrs. Williams, the headmistress at Salem Academy.
Speaker:We need you right away. Please hurry. Yes. Thank you. They'll locate
Speaker:the sheriff as quickly as possible.
Speaker:What do we do about. About Debbie.
Speaker:I'll ask Dr. Clamper to lock the cellar door and wait for the
Speaker:sheriff. And I want you to promise me to say nothing to the
Speaker:rest of the girls until after the sheriff arrives. I don't want
Speaker:to panic in the middle of the night.
Speaker:Yes. Yes, ma'.
Speaker:Am.
Speaker:And they do like, the most obvious zoom onto her finger, just
Speaker:so you know. It's like. There. There. There it is. There. See?
Speaker:You're not getting help from anybody. And they think. I think
Speaker:the girls think that Professor Delacroix did it.
Speaker:Look, they're all there.
Speaker:They were slaughtered. They were slaughtered. I know why you
Speaker:came here, and I know who sent you. But it won't stop me. It won't
Speaker:silence me. It killed them the way it wants to kill me.
Speaker:Who killed me?
Speaker:Them.
Speaker:It wasn't a person. You know it wasn't a person. Not me.
Speaker:I won't give in.
Speaker:None of it.
Speaker:That Lloyd Bogner did it somehow. And this is one of my favorite
Speaker:scenes in the movie, is that Lloyd Bogner is actually trying to
Speaker:flee the premises and fails miserably. What happens to Lloyd
Speaker:Bogner?
Speaker:Oh, he gets drowned by all the girls, but they don't. They. He ends
Speaker:up in the lake and he's trying to get out. And then Cheryl. Lan's
Speaker:got A big, long pole, and she's poking him with it. And everywhere
Speaker:he goes, a girl appears with a pole poking him. So he's in this
Speaker:lake with just, like, all sides of him surrounded by girls
Speaker:with poles, just pushing him into.
Speaker:The water, not letting him get out. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Jody.
Speaker:Jody.
Speaker:Help me.
Speaker:Johnny. Help me.
Speaker:Go.
Speaker:Help me,.
Speaker:Please. Please.
Speaker:I'll never go down there again.
Speaker:Please.
Speaker:Please let me out. I won't tell. Please let me go.
Speaker:Let me out. I won't tell.
Speaker:I won't.
Speaker:And they're smiling, too. They've got that. That Manson girl
Speaker:smile on, too. Which is great. Too. Like when. When Cheryl Ladd
Speaker:shows up, he's like, oh, Jody, thank God. Thank God you're here.
Speaker:He thinks that let the stickers to help him get out, and
Speaker:she hits him in the face with it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then it's doubly. And it's doubly shocking because it's a Charlie's
Speaker:Angel. No.
Speaker:Not sure. And then at first, it started, then a second girl, then
Speaker:a third girl, then all these girls just appear around him. And
Speaker:that. That was creepy to me. Just the slow realization, that's
Speaker:not one. There's a second one, there's a third one. And then it
Speaker:just keeps showing up till he's surrounded and he can't get
Speaker:out of the water. Yeah, sure, lad.
Speaker:Oh, I forgot. There's a backstory. There's a bad thing. We
Speaker:learned that there's a scary history of the place. What's the
Speaker:scary history of the school?
Speaker:Girls were hanged as witches. I think I didn't write that down.
Speaker:I'm sorry.
Speaker:No, it's fine. Eight girls were hanged as witches 300 years
Speaker:ago.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:There's some creepy legend about a bunch of people who were
Speaker:killed in a cellar around here a long time ago. How is it supposed
Speaker:to have happened? Well, they say during the Salem witch trials,
Speaker:there were eight young women who were accused of witchcraft and
Speaker:hung in one of the cellars. Yeah, but look, all these old houses
Speaker:have cellars. It could have been any one of them.
Speaker:If they didn't have scenes of people walking, maybe they could
Speaker:have developed it more. But that's. That's what we know.
Speaker:That's what we know. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'm sorry. No, wait. No. We heard that we don't have the money
Speaker:to do a flashback. We can't go get pilgrim costumes. Are you crazy?
Speaker:I know I'm silly.
Speaker:Are you crazy? You think we're made of money?
Speaker:Yeah. Well, they just got money for Daphne. Scoundrels. Over
Speaker:a very. Like a nightgown that's very. Not itself diaphanous.
Speaker:So putting a diaphanous gun on it just.
Speaker:No, no, that's true. Her nightgown itself was not to Everest.
Speaker:But then she put the wrap on him. I meant the. The.
Speaker:The.
Speaker:The. The Green Acres degree. The Green acres. I don't know what
Speaker:you call them.
Speaker:That was diaphaneous. That's okay. There we have a Daphne sketch
Speaker:down there.
Speaker:We get the silhouette. That's what I want to see. I was walking
Speaker:in the wind with a ladder. I'm in. I'm in. We keep coming back to
Speaker:really my favorite part in the world. It's the best part and the
Speaker:worst part.
Speaker:She walks through the things and you can. I was always watching
Speaker:the overhead lighting that was like following her. She was going
Speaker:around. Like one light would go on because it was almost. It felt
Speaker:like they were filming it on a set at times.
Speaker:Of course it was a set. Of course it was a set.
Speaker:And just with trying to have the light simulate the candlelight
Speaker:flying around. I had fun with that.
Speaker:That.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. They did a good job of it. But I was also doing that because
Speaker:I was bored. Like, oh, look how well they're doing with the lighting.
Speaker:That's bad. What are you even Me? You're not supposed to notice
Speaker:the lighting when it's good. You don't notice it.
Speaker:It got really bright in one room just because that one candle
Speaker:put a lot of light and she leaves and it just goes away.
Speaker:Basically. What's been going on? What's been going on is that
Speaker:Roy Finns is Satan.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:He's gathering up his girls again. Because whatever happened
Speaker:300 years ago interrupted the ceremony.
Speaker:He.
Speaker:They took his girls away from him.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:But now he's getting them back tonight.
Speaker:We've waited for you, Elizabeth. Look around you. Eight
Speaker:of my girls died here. Eight. All unwanted like you. Like all of
Speaker:them. I have waited too long. Now I have found eight to take their
Speaker:place and like them abandoned once again.
Speaker:It's no coincidence that we don't have families. Elizabeth. He
Speaker:wanted it that way. It has to be that way. Jody replied. Who do
Speaker:you think he is? We know. Malleus Malefolcum. The hammer of
Speaker:witches. Some call him Satan.
Speaker:I welcome what man rejects. I beckon what man despises. I forgive
Speaker:what man will not.
Speaker:You don't believe that. But he's Satan. None of you can really
Speaker:believe.
Speaker:They believe what they must. Tonight. They will sacrifice their
Speaker:mortal souls willingly. Hear where it started. And they will Return
Speaker:with me.
Speaker:You're crazy. Listen to me. I don't know what kind of a hold he
Speaker:has on you, but he's killed Delacroix and Debbie. We know. Elizabeth.
Speaker:Come with me willingly. Your sister would not. Nor Lucy Dembrow.
Speaker:Don't listen to him. Look, there are eight of us against his
Speaker:one. You've got to get out of here before it's too late. For God's
Speaker:sake.
Speaker:For his sake or mine, They've already made that choice. Come.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:So Pamela screams, and she throws that lantern that she's been
Speaker:carrying around the whole movie. She throws it at Dr. Clampett.
Speaker:The room gets set on fire, but nobody moves. Nobody's panicking,
Speaker:Nobody's screaming. All the girls are just placidly standing
Speaker:there going, join us, Elizabeth. Join us. But apparently
Speaker:she has to join of her own free will. They can't make her do
Speaker:it. And she doesn't. She runs away. She can't save any of them.
Speaker:They don't want to be saved. And so we get to watch most of the
Speaker:cat gleefully go to their death in a fiery inferno.
Speaker:I mean, they don't. She just shows up and he's there with the
Speaker:girls.
Speaker:He says it, but it's so.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:It's okay. It's roundabout language.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And you had to be paying attention to what was going on before.
Speaker:And they only mentioned it really briefly before. I think it's
Speaker:a little headcanon on that myself.
Speaker:I think you're right. It's just there's so little information
Speaker:to the whole story. I mean, you. You honestly, regardless.
Speaker:Well. Well, also, again, it doesn't matter. Eight girls are going
Speaker:to kill themselves, are going to set themselves on fire for him
Speaker:tonight. And they're really happy about it. That's up.
Speaker:Is that what was going to happen is that they're going to sacrifice
Speaker:themselves? Okay, I didn't get that. I did not get that. I thought
Speaker:he was bringing them together to kill her. The Pamela Franklin.
Speaker:Okay, that is.
Speaker:She's. She was supposed to. She was supposed to join him and
Speaker:take Debbie's place.
Speaker:Okay. Okay.
Speaker:He needs the a.
Speaker:Okay. That makes more sense. Yeah, but. No, but. But it doesn't
Speaker:work out that way.
Speaker:No, it doesn't work out that way, but it kind of. But it does.
Speaker:Because it's a 70s TV movie. We always have a grim ending. They
Speaker:never had happy endings.
Speaker:No. No. All the girls die. Well, Pamela Franklin and headmistress
Speaker:survive.
Speaker:Fire department arrives, and Pamela Franklin is standing there
Speaker:with the headmistress and they're watching the school burn.
Speaker:And Pamela Franklin gets to get one last cunty dig in before
Speaker:the movie ends.
Speaker:Everybody out.
Speaker:No, not everyone. Or if they had mistress.
Speaker:She'll have to notify their families.
Speaker:They didn't have any.
Speaker:Where. Where's Dr. Copper?
Speaker:Where he belongs.
Speaker:All the other questions. Girls burning themselves to death.
Speaker:And really happy about it.
Speaker:Really happy. Been. You know who does not burn up to death? Mr.
Speaker:Roy. Th. He. We see him just watching everything with a smile
Speaker:on his face.
Speaker:Well, then he disappears because he can't burn to death because
Speaker:he's eternal. And I guess I even says. But he goes after Pamela
Speaker:friend. He's like, I'll be back for you when I got the eighth.
Speaker:We shall meet when I have the eighth.
Speaker:Like you guys burn. I'll be back. I'll join you when I have the
Speaker:eight.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So assuming he's gonna. He's gonna still go be going after. But
Speaker:I do like the last shot of him just like watching the school burn.
Speaker:Smoking a cigarette. And you just see the. When he disappears
Speaker:the cigarettes there. But the ground where he was standing is scorched.
Speaker:Scorched. That was cool. I like that.
Speaker:Nice touch. Yeah. It's a grim ending. And I love that. The mad
Speaker:scene that the. The headmistress has, I think is really
Speaker:effective. All of a sudden she turns back into like a schoolgirl
Speaker:herself.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Hiding from the headmistress. But she doesn't play it like a mad
Speaker:scene. No, she's playing it like a. Like she's a. Like she was
Speaker:a young actress. Yeah, she was 16 again. And it's very effective
Speaker:in its subtlety.
Speaker:Mrs. Williams? Mrs. Williams? Professor Delacroix? Dead. He's been
Speaker:murdered.
Speaker:The headmistress isn't here right now. She told me to wait for
Speaker:her. She gonna punish me. I know she is, but she's wrong. It's
Speaker:a lie. Somebody told her a lie about me. I wasn't in that room.
Speaker:I would never go down there.
Speaker:What's wrong with you? I don't know. Did you tell her?
Speaker:I'll bet you were the ones who told her. I went down to that room.
Speaker:Forget her. Get the police. Hey.
Speaker:What are you doing? You can't use that phone. If Ms. Abigail doesn't
Speaker:let anybody use that phone.
Speaker:Operator, operate it. I can't get anybody. Phones must be out too.
Speaker:Everybody's gone. I saw them leave. What are you talking about?
Speaker:All the buses. They were headed toward town. Roberta, I think
Speaker:we're the only ones here.
Speaker:You better get out of this office. Ms. Abigail will give you
Speaker:demerits if she catches you here.
Speaker:Where's your car? The keys are gone. Somebody took them. Look, we
Speaker:could walk to the highway and hitch a ride into town. No, that's
Speaker:a long way in the dark. It's better than staying here with her.
Speaker:Yeah, and whoever killed Professor Delacroix. I wish we had
Speaker:a gun or something. Did she keep one? Let's find out. What are
Speaker:you doing?
Speaker:Miss Abigail will throw you out of school.
Speaker:She'll be back anyway. Wait minute A. There's one in the basement.
Speaker:When I was down there looking for props, there was one in the steel
Speaker:cabinet in the basement. Are you sure? Yeah. One of the maintenance
Speaker:men kept it there, I think. A gun and a couple of rifles. No, you
Speaker:can't go down there.
Speaker:No, you can't go down there. That's why I'm in trouble. Ms. Abigail
Speaker:doesn't let anybody go down there.
Speaker:Okay. What do you say? Is it the highway or do we try for the
Speaker:gun? Let's get the gun.
Speaker:No, please. Please don't go down there.
Speaker:There.
Speaker:She'll think I sent you.
Speaker:Please don't go down there.
Speaker:Please. Listen, you just stay here and. And we'll tell her you
Speaker:didn't have anything to do with it, okay? Okay.
Speaker:You tell her I was never in that room.
Speaker:Tell her any damn thing you please. You just stay put. Oh, but
Speaker:if you want.
Speaker:But he'll find out. Miss Abigail will tell him. He always
Speaker:tells him everything.
Speaker:Yeah, it's not over the top at all. It's not histrionic. It's very
Speaker:low key.
Speaker:And actually my favorite thing. Granted, we've talked a lot
Speaker:about walking around in a diaphanous gown, a nightgown and
Speaker:a lantern. The final battle with Pamela Franklin running all
Speaker:around the campus was really cool because she was doing it in
Speaker:the most enormous bell bottoms. Ding, ding, ding, ding,
Speaker:ding, ding, ding, ding. They were incredible. She looks gorgeous
Speaker:again in front of the fabulous silhouette.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Those jeans. I mean, she. Yeah, she filled out the
Speaker:jeans. They were amazing. The fashions, I mean, there wasn't a
Speaker:single bra in the movie. I don't think.
Speaker:Satan's School. At Satan's School for Girls?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:At a fine arts College in 1973. Are you crazy? Nobody's got
Speaker:a bra here.
Speaker:No, you're right. You're right. So they give you Daphne gowns,
Speaker:but, you know, took away the bras.
Speaker:No supportive undergarments, just night gear. That's all. That's
Speaker:it. Gauzy night gear. That's It.
Speaker:It.
Speaker:Yeah, it's. That's it. It's a fairly simple story.
Speaker:Very simple. But it's. I mean, it's effective. I would like to see
Speaker:an edited version. I think it would go by a lot. Go down a lot
Speaker:smoother.
Speaker:Yes, I would. That. I would agree with you there, because you
Speaker:could. Ten minutes out, it be fine, and it would be a lot smoother.
Speaker:You don't need all that much walking around, especially at that
Speaker:point in the film.
Speaker:Just.
Speaker:We don't learn anything great as a result of all the walking around.
Speaker:So it's not advancing the story much either. And. Yeah, but,
Speaker:you know, what are you gonna do? It is what it is.
Speaker:You got Kate Jackson.
Speaker:You got Kate Jackson. And there was a remake.
Speaker:I remember reading about that when I was looking at this.
Speaker:It's not great, is it?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:It's not a good cast, but yeah.
Speaker:Shenan Doherty. Kate Jackson's back. Back. And surprisingly, baby
Speaker:Julie Benz. Buffy and. And. Oh, my gosh, I'm gonna say her name
Speaker:wrong. Aren't Todd Taraji. Nelson.
Speaker:Nelson.
Speaker:Thank you. She's in it as well. It was cool to see them, but
Speaker:it's nothing like this movie. It's trying to be more like Charmed.
Speaker:Oh, okay. It wasn't that.
Speaker:So it's really not satanic. It's more witchy and. Okay, but Kate
Speaker:Jackson is the villain. And she's great. She's great.
Speaker:She'd make villain. I can see her being a villain.
Speaker:Well, she was the villain here, for. God damn it. I like that.
Speaker:She was the second in command. You can see she was smart about it.
Speaker:She was. She stuck close to Pamela Franklin the.
Speaker:Whole time, but she was also sticking close to him, too. Like
Speaker:in those final scenes. Look. Look how close she is. So she is
Speaker:the lieutenant. Like, I have the feeling a lot of this was her
Speaker:plan. She's like, I'll talk to her. I know what to do with her.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:She doesn't have to tell. She doesn't. He doesn't have to tell
Speaker:her what to do. She's telling him what she's going to do.
Speaker:Yeah. She's a true believer.
Speaker:She's a true believer which is terrifying and wonderfully tragic
Speaker:ending. These girls just burned to death. And that's the end
Speaker:because that's what we did. And then we had another. We have
Speaker:another hour of tv.
Speaker:Yeah. Go back to Sanford and Son or BJ and the Bear. Next up,
Speaker:the Golden Girls after Satan's School for Girls.
Speaker:Satan's School for Golden Girls. I paid Cash money to say that
Speaker:bing bong Petrum in the future here. I can't believe it's taken
Speaker:me this long to realize that that lantern that Pamela Franklin
Speaker:has been carrying around the whole movie, the one that Trae and
Speaker:I have been making fun of relentlessly, this whole recording
Speaker:is literally Chekhov's gun. The rule of Chekhov's gun, you don't
Speaker:introduce a gun in act one unless it shoots somebody by act
Speaker:three. Well, here we go. We have a lantern introduced in Act
Speaker:1, and by Act 3, it's used to save the day. It sets the bad guy
Speaker:on fire and set birds the school the ground and rescues our
Speaker:heroine. It's liter Chekhov's gone. Thank you, liberal arts degree
Speaker:Bing bong back to the show.
Speaker:But it does surprise that that Kate Jackson was basically playing
Speaker:the exact same character she played in Charlotte's Angel. She
Speaker:was Sabrina in here. Just.
Speaker:I've seen a lot of Kate Jackson in this past year. Specifically
Speaker:for this. For this playwright that we're on, because she did a
Speaker:lot of these TV movies, and I become obsessed with her. And like,
Speaker:I just watched one that she did called Death Cruise, which is
Speaker:great. Agatha Christie kind of thing. Another haunted house one
Speaker:called Death at Love House. And I'm also thinking, I also watched
Speaker:Making Love, revisiting making Love with Harry Hamlin. Kate Jackson
Speaker:always is Kate Jackson. Like, she does. She's not a character actress.
Speaker:She just.
Speaker:She plays herself. And that's okay because what she is, is fascinating.
Speaker:Yes. Well, she drapes herself on stuff. When she talks to her,
Speaker:she's like, leans on objects and she's very casual, which I like
Speaker:that style. She just. The way she says things is very natural.
Speaker:Yeah. Welcome back to the Kate Jackson cast.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:All Kate Jackson all the time.
Speaker:Okay. Jack. All the time. Scarecrow, Mrs. King. We got everything.
Speaker:We got it all.
Speaker:Yeah. And she was a Dark Shadows girl herself, was she?
Speaker:Yep. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. Did not know that.
Speaker:But the problem is that with these. With the Charlie's Angels
Speaker:girls. No Love Boats, no Fantasy Island.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. Because.
Speaker:Well, they were on abc. They would have. They're competing. Although
Speaker:technically. Technically, there was an episode of Charlie's
Speaker:Angels where they were on the Love. Love Boat Angels.
Speaker:Oh, that's on the side.
Speaker:But it's considered an episode of Charlie's Angels and not an episode
Speaker:of the Love Boat, so it's not.
Speaker:Oh, is it an. Is it a crossover?
Speaker:Actually, like an official crossover, Actual crossover episode.
Speaker:That's. But it is an episode of Charlie's Angels, so It can't
Speaker:count as an episode of Love Boat. It can't be. I'm sor.
Speaker:It doesn't.
Speaker:But Kate Jackson and. It doesn't matter. All right, I think
Speaker:we've done this. I'm babbling now. All right, Trae, thank you so
Speaker:much for joining me again. Thank you for flying with again.
Speaker:Except if you're here and we're here, who's minding the store?
Speaker:Maya said she left Vita in charge, so we shouldn't have to worry
Speaker:that.
Speaker:Maya always says she leaves Vita in charge. And we all know Vita.
Speaker:Vita don't do shit. I know.
Speaker:Well, she kills the customers and says we're trying to shoplift.
Speaker:I don't know about that.
Speaker:We're not supposed to talk about that on there.
Speaker:I'm sorry.
Speaker:They had unfortunate accidents. Okay, what are we talking
Speaker:about? What shop are we talking about? Trae?
Speaker:We're talking about the shop from Damn you, Uncle Lewis. Our podcast,
Speaker:talking about the Friday the 13th series.
Speaker:That's right where we just wrapped season two.
Speaker:We did two out of three seasons down. Yep.
Speaker:Going into the final stretch, we're almost.
Speaker:Not gonna be able to talk about Ryan anymore. That makes me
Speaker:sad.
Speaker:We'll always be able to talk about Ryan because we're always going
Speaker:to be comparing him to John. Amy, nobody knows what we're talking
Speaker:about anyway.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:If you enjoy hanging out with co pilot Trae, you should come over,
Speaker:listen to Damian Wonka Lewis. If you didn't watch Friday the 13th
Speaker:the series, start watching it. It's on YouTube, and it's fabulous.
Speaker:It's. It's a slice in time. It's fun. It's a. It is a moment
Speaker:in time, in a good way.
Speaker:A moment of Canadian time, which is a really specific. And I
Speaker:mean that in the best way.
Speaker:Canada.
Speaker:It's unique.
Speaker:Amazing hair, amazing accents. Bucket hats. And I'm still calling
Speaker:a bucket hat. So the day I die.
Speaker:Oh, yeah, we're gonna get sued. All right, Trae, I think we've
Speaker:landed the plane. I think we have arrived safely back at destination.
Speaker:Thank you, everybody, for flying Polyester Airlines. Get your
Speaker:and get off the plane. I'll fix that in post, Sam.
