Most B2B podcasts fail for one simple reason. They’re built around topics nobody is looking for, instead of the real moment a buyer realises something in their business is breaking.
In this episode, I break down why your “marketing”, “leadership”, or “productivity” episodes are getting skipped, and what to do instead.
We’ll get into:
• How to spot actual content you should be publishing, using your sales calls
• Why “topics” make your show sound like a 2014 panel discussion
• The shift from brand awareness to belief-building
• Simple ways to turn your podcast into a pipeline machine, not a weekly chore
If you want episodes your ideal clients recognise themselves in, this is the one to listen to.
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So let me tell you about something that most business podcasts
Speaker:get completely wrong. They build episodes
Speaker:around Topics. Welcome to B2B Podcasting
Speaker:Insights with Neil Velio, founder of Podnos, a
Speaker:podcast agency helping you get better results from podcasting.
Speaker:Marketing, leadership, culture,
Speaker:productivity. No one's out there googling
Speaker:productivity, hoping that they're gonna find your take on it. If
Speaker:you want your show to drive business and not just tick off boxes
Speaker:on your content calendar, well, you gotta build around buying
Speaker:triggers, not topics. Let's talk about that.
Speaker:So, first of all, what is a buying trigger then? Well, it's that exact moment
Speaker:your potential client, and in this particular case,
Speaker:listener, realizes something is off,
Speaker:their old system is not working, and they've come to you
Speaker:to listen to your podcast to figure out why
Speaker:that is. Their own audience has completely stopped
Speaker:engaging. Maybe their sales team is ghosting their own
Speaker:pipeline. That's where your show should live.
Speaker:Think about it like this. Your ideal client doesn't wake up thinking, do you
Speaker:know what? I'd love to learn more about marketing funnels today.
Speaker:No, they don't. Contrary to what thousands of
Speaker:podcasts would have you believe, they wake up thinking,
Speaker:why did our last campaign tank even though the product is
Speaker:good? That frustration we've identified there,
Speaker:tanking marketing funnels despite good product,
Speaker:that is a buying trigger. It's the start of their buying
Speaker:journey, and it's exactly what your B2B podcast
Speaker:needs to speak to. Let me give you a short example that might be
Speaker:relevant to your own situation. If you help
Speaker:founders fix their sales messaging, don't do an
Speaker:episode called how to Write Better Copy. Everyone is
Speaker:doing that. What you need to do is. An episode that speaks to a
Speaker:buying trigger may be called what to do. When prospects
Speaker:keep saying, thanks for the. Information, we'll think about it carefully and
Speaker:get back to you very soon. Okay, we appreciate your time and
Speaker:effort. Same topic, different angle, but one
Speaker:gets skipped and one gets a play click.
Speaker:Potentially gets you followed. Even
Speaker:more potentially gets them on your email newsletter list,
Speaker:and ideally gets them on the end of a zoom call or
Speaker:teams meeting.
Speaker:This is why most podcasts miss this. Most
Speaker:B2B podcasts sound like panel discussions
Speaker:from 2014, because people build them around
Speaker:what they want to talk about, not what their ideal
Speaker:buyer is feeling in the moment. Right
Speaker:before they decide they need you, they're thinking
Speaker:top of funnel brand awareness. But the thing
Speaker:is, podcasts aren't there really for
Speaker:building brand awareness. They're there for building
Speaker:belief. They're there to be you
Speaker:in the room with them before you can physically
Speaker:get in the room with them. Look, if you want brand
Speaker:awareness, go make some TikToks, go pop some
Speaker:reels on Instagram, just shove some
Speaker:slop on LinkedIn. If you want trust,
Speaker:go make a podcast. So just how do you find your
Speaker:buying triggers then? Well, I'm glad you asked.
Speaker:Here's an exercise for you to carry out which will absolutely help
Speaker:you with this. First of all, listen back to your sales
Speaker:calls, read the transcripts, put them in
Speaker:ChatGPT and have a conversation with your GPT
Speaker:about your sales calls. Try and figure out the
Speaker:exact moment that a prospect says, yeah,
Speaker:that's our issue. That's the moment you know you
Speaker:have a successful buying trigger. So ask
Speaker:your best clients what was going wrong right
Speaker:before they decided to pull the trigger and work with you.
Speaker:Maybe scroll through your DMs and your inboxes. Look at those
Speaker:questions people ask you repeatedly. They're absolute gold.
Speaker:Great ideas for podcast episodes. In fact,
Speaker:use the exact questions as your episode titles.
Speaker:At this point, when you've got this working correctly,
Speaker:you're not creating content anymore. You are answering
Speaker:buying stage pain points out loud.
Speaker:You're addressing buying triggers.
Speaker:Let's have another crack at what this might sound like in practice.
Speaker:Say you're a B2B SaaS company. Instead of
Speaker:the future of Martech, try
Speaker:what happens when your CRM stops closing deals.
Speaker:Instead of AI and creativity, do
Speaker:the moment you realized automation just made your
Speaker:brand sound robotic. Each of those triggers
Speaker:a specific business pain that somebody is already in,
Speaker:and that's what gets your episode shared internally
Speaker:within teams, helping you close the
Speaker:sale. Get to the decision maker. Activate
Speaker:complete buy in. Forget the topics list.
Speaker:Stop trying so hard to sound smart. Yes,
Speaker:we know you know the thing that you talk about. You should.
Speaker:It's your thing. Stop trying to outsmart
Speaker:everybody else in your industry and instead
Speaker:try to sound relevant. Answer the questions
Speaker:they're not answering because they're too busy focusing on building their
Speaker:personal brands. They want to be seen as the go
Speaker:to thought leader on the topic in the industry.
Speaker:Every episode you put out, you're aiming to have
Speaker:the listener say in their own brain, yeah, they're
Speaker:talking about me right now. And that's the moment a podcast
Speaker:stops being content and starts becoming
Speaker:a buying accelerant. If you want to know whether your
Speaker:show is built around buying triggers or is just putting content
Speaker:out, or maybe just sticking around comfortable
Speaker:topics that are easy for you to get out there,
Speaker:let's let you what I do and the link to my training
Speaker:is in the episode description. I hope you found this
Speaker:particularly useful, and maybe it's activated one of your buying
Speaker:triggers, in which case, make sure you click that link in the
Speaker:description. If you did find it useful, feel free to share it with a
Speaker:colleague or peer in the industry, or any industry that you think
Speaker:might get something from the episode. Make sure you're following the podcast in your
Speaker:favorite podcasting app, and I will speak to you on the next episode of
Speaker:B2B podcasting insights. Until then, best of luck
Speaker:continuing your podcasting journey.