This episode centers on the historical significance of the Canton Bulldogs' achievements in the early years of the National Football League, particularly their remarkable feat of capturing three consecutive championships. As we approach the contemporary Super Bowl weekend, we draw parallels between the Bulldogs’ accomplishments and the Kansas City Chiefs' pursuit of a potential three-peat in the modern era. The discussion traverses the evolution of championship play, highlighting the pivotal role of key figures such as Guy Chamberlain in the success of the Bulldogs. We delve into the team’s strategies, roster changes, and the competitive landscape of professional football in the 1920s, providing a comprehensive overview of how these early triumphs laid the groundwork for future NFL legacies. Listeners will gain insights into the profound impact of these historical narratives on the current state of the game and its championship aspirations.
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Speaker A:We are going into a championship weekend.
Speaker A: continued as a theme here in: Speaker A:We're going to talk about some early years from over 100 years ago and it's all coming up for the first three peat right after this.
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Speaker A: a theme that we have here in: Speaker A:You, the listeners and viewers on our YouTube channel have come to me and asked, hey, can we talk a little bit about some of these championship games?
Speaker A:And we're going to start right from the beginning.
Speaker A: ve Talked about the APFA, the: Speaker A: on Pros were the champions of: Speaker A:The second year of the APFA, of course, was the Chicago Staley's.
Speaker A: used by the team, of course,: Speaker A: But now we go to the: Speaker A:The Kansas City Chiefs have a chance at a three peat.
Speaker A:It's the first time in the super bowl era that a team could win three in a row.
Speaker A:It's been done twice or two time wins in a row, multiple times.
Speaker A:This could be the first time for a three peat in the NFL during the super bowl era.
Speaker A:But the very first NFL 3 peat happened by a team called the Bulldogs.
Speaker A:And some people say, well, it's not really a three peat because two years they were in Canton, one year they were in Cleveland.
Speaker A:But we're going to discuss that here and a bunch more.
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Speaker A: It's about the: Speaker A: rowing up into meeting in the: Speaker A:And we have a team or a book coming out this year that we're co writing with Jeff Payne, who's been a guest on our show multiple times.
Speaker A:And it's going to be on a championship team from a hundred years ago and we'll have more details on that.
Speaker A: ip theme that we have here in: Speaker A:So some interesting things there.
Speaker A:Let's get into the Canton Bulldogs.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:Owner Ralph Hay, along with the team leaders knew he had to make some changes, be more competitive.
Speaker A:So he let former stars Jim Thorpe and Joe Guyon move on and they, those two actually went and started a squad around Cleveland called the Ourang Indians squad.
Speaker A:1921 Cap Edwards took over as the coach on the field and had some new faces including 13 rookies were added to the Canton Bulldogs.
Speaker A:Veterans like Swede Youngstrom joined the club from Buffalo to help fortify the line along with some rookies there.
Speaker A:Pete Fats, Henry, Al Feeney and Ed Sauer.
Speaker A: They did improve in: Speaker A:But it was far from the expectations of the Canton faithful.
Speaker A: at his team drop off from the: Speaker A: Chamberlain played on the: Speaker A: ow Chamberlain played on that: Speaker A:And the, you know, the Staley's beat the first place Buffalo All Americans.
Speaker A:What was realistically the APFA championship game by de facto because the winner would have inevitably won and took over.
Speaker A:We did candle, we talked about that in our what IF scenario.
Speaker A: But: Speaker A:Guy Chamberlain is back at Canton.
Speaker A:He's the coach and a player.
Speaker A:He brings in a signing of a guard, Tarzan Taylor, who had played with him at the Staley's the year before and also a former college teammate of Guy Chamberlain's, a hall of famer.
Speaker A:Link Lyman, an all American from Nebraska, joined the team and played there.
Speaker A:He also picked up some other fellas on the team that were pretty significant.
Speaker A:Doc Elliott, Tex Grigg, Russ Hathaway, Jim Kendrick, Johnny McQuaid, Candy Miller, Duke Osborne, Harry Robe, Mookie Roberts, Norm SAPTaser, Ed Shaw, LooseMyThe Dutch Spec, Ralph Wattlesmith, Dawn Batchelor, Arta Bowser, Bird Carroll, you know, just some tremendous names joining Chamberlain on there.
Speaker A:And we're going to be talking in the book that I forementioned, you know, that's gonna be coming out here in the next few weeks.
Speaker A:We're Gonna be talking more about these gentlemen, Pete Henry and Duke Osborne, Harry Robe, Russ Hathaway, you know, going to be talking a lot about them.
Speaker A: That's what came on the: Speaker A: And this: Speaker A:They started off the season with a 38 to nothing blowout of the upstart NFL franchise, the Louisville Brecks.
Speaker A:Then they faced what many consider the toughest test of the season when the Dayton Triangles hosted Canton at Triangles park in Dayton.
Speaker A:The two squads finished in a scoreless draw.
Speaker A:Next was a 14 to nothing shutout versus Jim Thorpe's Ourang Club followed by a 22 to nothing blanking of the league's first champions, the Akron Pros.
Speaker A:Two strong opponents were on a schedule after that.
Speaker A:Defending champion now the Chicago Bears, who were formerly the Chicago Staleys and the upstart Toledo Maroons.
Speaker A:Canton held both of these potent teams scoreless with seven nothing wins over Chicago in a scoreless tie with Toledo.
Speaker A:These were significant and in particular the win over the Bears.
Speaker A: pponents was far from over in: Speaker A:Next three games were also against strong opponents.
Speaker A:The Buffalo Americans tested the Bulldogs in the second quarter.
Speaker A:Field goal lifted Canton to a 3 nothing victory.
Speaker A:And in two games against the Chicago Cardinals in a home and home series, right hand.
Speaker A:The Dogs took both games seven nothing in the first meeting at Chicago and 20 to three in Canton.
Speaker A:The latter game had all the Bulldogs points scored in the fourth quarter and a really rally quarter for them as the Redbirds held a slim 3 nothing lead for most of the game.
Speaker A:The Canton 11 finished off the season with three additional wins over Akron, the Milwaukee Badgers and the Toledo Maroons.
Speaker A: Chamberlain led the: Speaker A:10.
Speaker A:02 record.
Speaker A:The team shut out nine of 12 opponents and allowed only 15 points in 12 games.
Speaker A: hose standings were Canton, a: Speaker A:Chicago Cardinals were eight and three.
Speaker A:Toledo Maroons were five, two and two.
Speaker A:Rock Island Independence were four, two and one and the Racine Legion was six and four.
Speaker A:Dayton Triangles were four and three.
Speaker A:Green Bay packers were four and three, Buffalo Americans were five and four.
Speaker A:Everybody else the other of the 18 teams had losing records for the NFL in that season.
Speaker A:And this was also, by the way, was the first year that was called the National Football league.
Speaker A: The first two seasons,: Speaker A:So that was pretty cool.
Speaker A:Too.
Speaker A:So the go to the winter meetings.
Speaker A:The best team, team with the best record, no doubt.
Speaker A: e top team in the the NFL for: Speaker A: So that takes us to: Speaker A:And Canton once again is the big favorites in this season.
Speaker A:They come into the game, come in and they end up having tremendous drafts again.
Speaker A:But they had these carryovers, you know, with Link Lyman and actually Pete Kalak joined them, Rudy Comstock joined them, Ben Jones joins the team as well.
Speaker A:And they really have a tremendous roster going on there.
Speaker A:They go to the season and they're playing some tremendous teams again.
Speaker A:It's a big league, there's a lot of teams in it.
Speaker A:But the Canton Bulldogs once again finish undefeated under Guy Chamberlain.
Speaker A:Their Canton Bulldogs are 11.
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Speaker A:Chicago Bears are 92 and 1.
Speaker A:Green Bay packers improved dramatically 72 and 1.
Speaker A:The Milwaukee Badgers were 72 and 3 and the Cleveland Indians were 31 3.
Speaker A:Remember them Cleveland Indians here, We're going to talk about them in a moment.
Speaker A:Chicago Cardinals were 8 and 4 and the Duluth Kelly's were 4 and 3.
Speaker A:Buffalo Americans fell to 5 and 4, tied with the Columbus Tigers also 5 and 4.
Speaker A:Everybody else was 500 or worse in the NFL.
Speaker A:So again, it's a runaway two games better than the Chicago Bears, who the Bulldogs beat twice that season to capture a second NFL championship.
Speaker A:This is a third in a row for Guy Chamberlain played on the on the Staley's two with the Canton Bulldogs now.
Speaker A:And now things get just a little bit more interesting.
Speaker A: Now it comes to the: Speaker A:They have some big stars that they're paying a lot of money to keep on their team, including Chamberlain and Pete Henry and Link Lyman and all the rest of them.
Speaker A:And they just can't afford to have that payroll anymore and they can't afford that franchise.
Speaker A: on franchise in the spring of: Speaker A:And he must have had his fill with football team because he ended up combining them with his Cleveland Indians team and brought many of the players over.
Speaker A:Except he lost three key ones.
Speaker A:And that was Larry Conover who had joined a team the year earlier.
Speaker A:Pete Henry who'd been with the Bulldogs for the last couple years, and Harry Robe who'd also been for the last couple years with the Bulldogs in Canton.
Speaker A:Well, they ended up leaving and there was a big to do about it to an independent team in the Anthracite League called the Pottsville Maroons.
Speaker A:And there was some lawsuits and things going on.
Speaker A:That's also part of our book.
Speaker A:So we'll let you.
Speaker A:We'll talk about that later here in the the year.
Speaker A:But you know, that's just a tremendous story all in itself.
Speaker A:But the Cleveland Bulldogs went on and they won the NFL championship.
Speaker A: th by a score of: Speaker A:So that's a big one.
Speaker A:The Frankfort Yellow Jackets who just joined the NFL, they ended up tying the Cleveland Bulldogs three all in week two.
Speaker A:So two really tough teams going on then you're playing the champions from two years ago.
Speaker A: But the Bulldogs prevail: Speaker A:They really beat up on the Rochester Jeffersons at home 59 to nothing.
Speaker A:And then the Dayton Triangles come to town and they blow them out 35 to nothing.
Speaker A:And then they go to Akron to play the pros.
Speaker A:And Bulldogs win again 27.
Speaker A:But then they suffer a loss.
Speaker A:The Frankfort Yellow Jackets come to Cleveland after tying the first time in Frankfort and the Yellow Jackets really sting them.
Speaker A:The 7 to 12 victory for the Jackets, they throw their first loss in there and that's actually the first loss in franchise history in the last three years.
Speaker A:So that's pretty impressive that they won all those games in the NFL.
Speaker A:And the second to last week they beat the Columbus Tigers seven to nothing.
Speaker A:And then they really took all their frustrations out on the Milwaukee badgers at home.
Speaker A:53 to 10.
Speaker A:Was that score to finish the season with that seven one and one record.
Speaker A:And you know, it is very impressive that they, they did such a thing that way because it is.
Speaker A:The Bears ended up 61 and 4, Cleveland 71 and 1.
Speaker A:So barely nudging them out.875 winning percentage for the Bulldogs.857 for the Bears, who you know were just finished a little bit short there.
Speaker A:The Yellow Jackets were 11, 2 and 1 in their first year, 84 and 6.
Speaker A:Duluth Kelly's were 5 and 1, Rock Island Independence were 52 and 2.
Speaker A:Green Bay packers again finishing 7 and 4.
Speaker A:And the receding Legion 4 3, Chicago Cardinals 5 and 4, Buffalo Bison 6 and 5.
Speaker A:Everybody else is.500 or worse there in the NFL for that.
Speaker A:So the Bulldogs of Canton and Cleveland under Guy Chamberlain three championships of the NFL in a row.
Speaker A:They're looking, hey, can we get a four peat?
Speaker A:But that's their first three peat champion in the NFL history and it's a good timing as we go into this super bowl weekend where the Kansas City Chiefs have a chance to tie that record and be in that three peat club of National Football League championship.
Speaker A:So that's just a little bit of history.
Speaker A:We covered three seasons in a row, championship team, each time for the Bulldogs.
Speaker A:And we will move on and talk next week about another championship team and the controversy with that.
Speaker A:And it's all coming up next week, but we have some other great episodes coming up in between there.
Speaker A:We're going to of course going to be talking our normal Tuesday talk with Timothy p.
Speaker A:Brown of footballarchaeology.com talking about some great football history.
Speaker A:I think you're really going to like this week's upcoming show as we're going to talk about an offensive formation that might be one of the most famous in college football history and we'll have some video to go along with that on our YouTube channel.
Speaker A:So I think you'll enjoy that discussion we have with Tim.
Speaker A:We are, you know, earlier in the week we're going to be talking about some some more great things, maybe some more super bowl topics.
Speaker A:We'll have another try to have another infographic show that was pretty popular we had the other day, put some infographics up to talk about and some stats and some fun there.
Speaker A:And maybe we'll talk a little bit about the college game next week as well.
Speaker A:So we have all this coming up.
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