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The concept of "groove" can be hard to pin down. That single word alludes to the rhythmic character of a composition, the feeling with which performers play their parts, and a certain ineffable something that catches the ear and sinks right into a listener's core. Creating something that sits right in the pocket requires both swagger and comprehension.

For the latest episode of Themes and Variation, Mahea and Carter sat down with the ever estimable drummer and producer, Efa Etoroma, Jr. to try to define the indefinable. Our conversation about runs the gamut of all things groove — from legendary virtuosity to beats that just feel good, this one's all about "Songs That Groove."

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