00:00 Complementarianism Explained

01:13 Biblical Roles and Responsibilities

02:28 Women's Role in the Church

04:38 Men's Leadership and Responsibilities

06:09 DBR Summary

15:04 Final Thoughts and Prayer

15:43 Closing Remarks

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Welcome back to the Daily Bible Podcast!

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We're so glad you've joined us.

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And now your hosts,

Pastor PJ and Pastor Rod.

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Hey, everybody.

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I don't know what happened before

you heard my voice, so I'm not

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gonna thank anybody for anything.

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That's right, because no

need to, I have no idea.

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We have no idea what's gonna

happen, but we're glad that

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you're back listening to us today.

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Yes, we are.

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Yeah.

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In fact, you know what, not to create

too much anticipation for anything, but

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the next couple of days you may hear

an even different voice on the podcast.

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Ooh, first time.

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Voice on the podcast?

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Is it Pastor Amanda's first time?

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Nope.

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Actually on the podcast.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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That's not happening.

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No.

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In fact, we were talking about that with

this magazine cover that they're doing.

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We're just like, Hey, we need

to make abundantly clear that

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this is not a pastor's burn.

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Pastor's PJ and Amanda

Bonner, that's not a thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Hey, we love women.

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We just want you to know that we do well.

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We believe that scripture says that

women should not be in pastoral roles.

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True.

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And therefore we believe God

has a different role for them.

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We are complimentarians.

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Yes.

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Not compliment, difference being

we're not complimenting women as

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in, Hey, you look great today.

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Hey, we should be doing

that too with our wives.

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You should do that.

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If you're a husband and you have

a wife, you should compliment her.

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Yeah.

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But compliment with an.

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E speaks to the completeness of

something, and we believe that men

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and women complete one another by

fulfilling their distinct roles.

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God calls men to lead.

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He calls women to support and to follow.

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As a helpmate, we learned

this in the garden.

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God gave Adam to lead

and name the animals.

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God gave Eve to be his help mates.

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In the New Testament, Paul forbids

women from holding authority in

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the church and teaching men, and

so we believe that's something

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that still is binding on us today.

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Hence we are called complimentarians and

we believe this is God's good design.

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It doesn't diminish women at all.

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Some people think that when this happens,

oh, surely then you must be Neanderthals

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who tell your women to wear red dresses

and you guys are evil for being the

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patriarchs and all those things.

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Look, we love the women

that God have given us.

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I think we have some of the most quality

women in all of creation and Christiandom.

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All of those things.

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But we also believe God designs roles

in a similar way, although not in

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a parallel one-to-one God designs

roles among all echelons of society.

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There's governmental roles

and there's one person that's

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higher in ranked than the other.

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It doesn't mean that they're

better qualitatively, it just

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means they have a different role.

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And we believe that's the

same here in marriage.

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There's different roles in the church.

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There are different roles,

and therefore we want to honor

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the roles that God designs.

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And we believe when we do

that, things are better for.

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Everybody.

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Totally.

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And at the same time, our

ladies do teach one another.

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Your wife is teaching women's

Bible study coming up here.

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That's right.

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I think on Saturday.

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It's coming Saturday.

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That's right.

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And I know my wife

teaches in there as well.

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And so it's not as though we're

going, let the men come in and teach

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the ladies Women's Bible study.

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'cause women can't teach that.

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In fact, I think that shows that we do.

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Believe that women have the ability

to handle the word of God and can

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have the wisdom and insight and

intellect to bring to the table there.

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And our ladies do a great job in

that role with the ladies again.

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Yeah, you're right.

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This is a part of God's

design, God's plan.

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And we want to follow God's design

in God's plan because that's, we

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wanna do that in every area of life.

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And when he makes something plain

and clear in scripture, we wanna

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say, Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna

do what God's calling us to do there.

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Yeah.

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And it is countercultural.

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We do believe that we actually, we

know we're not just believing it.

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We know that our position is

something that is in favorable today.

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Lots of people look down on something like

this as though we're backward thinking,

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we're Neanderthals, we must hate women.

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They might use words about us like

that, but really I think we respect

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women, we respect them, we protect them.

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We think that they play a special role in.

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The body life of the church, and

God calls the men of the church

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and the pastors of the church to

protect and to esteem these women.

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In fact, Proverbs 31, even as early as

the Old Testament, Proverbs 31, is saying

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things like her children praise her.

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Her husband also, he rises

up and calls her Blessed,

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we're called to affirm and to.

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Encourage them in the gifts that they've

given in their right apportion gifts.

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And the same thing is true for us.

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Men should not raise babies

in the same way that women do.

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We don't even have the

machinery to do that.

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And that makes it evident that God

has designed us in different ways,

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complimentary roles that support

God's mission for the church.

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Yeah, and I like the word protection that

you use there because if we were to go

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the, to the alternate alternative, if

we were to say, Hey let's put a woman.

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On stage as a pastor and let her preach,

we would not be protecting her because she

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would be in a role that is not honoring

to the Lord because she would be doing

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something that God does not delight in.

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She would be doing something that

God has prohibited her from doing.

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And so there's a protective role in

there as well that we're saying, Hey

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we care about you standing before

Jesus in the bema seat someday,

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and we wanna make sure that we're

not encouraging you to do something

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that's gonna transgress God's law.

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Just like we don't want them to

encourage us to do something that's

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also gonna transgress God's law.

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You know what?

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Interesting enough too, I think one of

the characteristics that we see in the

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garden that I think is still endemic today

among men is that when God called out

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Adam and said, Adam, what are you doing?

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He was hiding behind his eve.

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Yep.

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She was leading at that point,

and he was happy to let her.

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I think that would happen today.

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Yeah.

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By and large, and this is why God.

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Encourages and charges men to

take the lead because we're so

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often inclined to not do that.

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He wants us to do it.

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He doesn't, not that women aren't capable.

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I've known I've been under female pastors.

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This is my background.

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I was Assemblies of God and I've

known very gifted, godly women

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that have led in pastoral roles.

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Now, obviously my convictions

are different now.

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My scriptural convictions have.

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Developed and changed.

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But it doesn't change the

fact that I know women.

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There are women out there that

are better teachers than I am.

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They're better, they're more

gifted, they have better skill sets.

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It doesn't change the fact that God

has designed men to do certain things

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and to design women to do other things.

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And I think it's beautiful

that God does do that.

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He encourages men to thrive

by leading, taking charge and

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healthy God honoring ways.

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He encourages women to thrive by

learning to submit to the will of their

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husband, which is what when God says

to Eve, your will be for your husband.

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You will desire.

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And he uses the same words when he talks

to Cain and Abel your desire is for sin,

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lurks at the door, desiring to have you.

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And so I think there's something

about that kind of tension where she

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wants to take charge and he wants

to let her, I think is always there.

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But God in his wisdom says,

no, I'm gonna make you.

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I'm gonna make you lead 'cause

it's gonna be good for you

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and it's gonna be good for.

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Yep.

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Let's get to our DVR today, second Kings.

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I'm not done talking about this yet.

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Let's keep on going.

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Okay.

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I'm just kidding.

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Second Kings 24, 25, and

second Chronicles 36.

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So we're finishing up Kings and

Chronicles which is a big section of.

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The Israel story, from

here, this is the end.

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We're going into exile officially

now, and then we're gonna deal

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with post exilic Israel before

we get into the New Testament.

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But this is wrapping up the

Monarch monarchial period of

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Israel prior to the exile.

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And really this is wrapping up

the monarchial period of Israel

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prior to the next king that's

gonna sit on the throne of Israel.

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Who's gonna be Jesus at the the

millennial reign in the future.

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There are earthly kings

that are gonna reign in.

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Jerusalem, but as far as the Davidic

King goes, this is the end until Christ

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comes back and sits upon the throne.

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Two Kings 24, we've got the various kings

here, and we're gonna tick through 'em

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pretty quickly here as the text does.

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So it opens with Jo Jolla, Kim 6 0

9 to 5 98 BC was his reign there.

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And it's not just Babylon

that's going to come against.

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The people of Jerusalem,

but it's also the nations.

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So sometimes as we're reading Jeremiah,

it talks about God exacting vengeance

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on Babylon, but also on the nations.

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And part of that is because here come

the nations to team up with Babylon,

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against Judah and against Israel.

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So we read about some of those

nations there in verse two.

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The Moabites, the Ammonites, the Syrians,

they're there along with the Babylon

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Babylonians to go against Israel there.

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And though God is using them

as an instrument, remember and

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we're gonna get to Habakkuk in

a few days here they're not.

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Their actions are still gonna be

considered wrong and sinful in God's eyes.

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God is still gonna judge them for

their wickedness and in part their

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wickedness against Israel, even though

he uses them in this notice verse three.

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This is again for the sins of Manasseh.

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And so Manasseh is mentioned

again, the son of Josiah.

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And it's for the sins of Manasseh,

the straw that broke the camel's back.

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That was the main problem.

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Verse seven, Egypt had been defeated

and so that is significant for

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us to note because Judah was so

often tempted to trust in Egypt.

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They would no longer be able to do that.

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So we go from Je Hoya Kim to Je Hoya Chin.

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Je Hoya Chin comes up next in 5 97 bc.

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This is verses 11 through 17.

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Nebuchadnezzar comes back here and

what's significant here is this

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is the exile where Daniel and his

three friends are gonna be taken

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captive and taken to Babylon.

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And so with many of the people, the

treasures that the temple were taken

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captive, 10,000 people go in this.

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This deportation.

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So this is 5 97.

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This is the second

deportation that we find here.

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And then the chapter 24 ends with Zetia

being installed as King by Nebuchadnezzar

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after Jo Hoya Chin's surrender there.

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Chapter 25 you've got Zika's ninth year.

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So we're in 5 88 bc.

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This is when Nebuchadnezzar comes and lays

the final siege to the city of Jerusalem.

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This is gonna last for 30 months, and

in 5 86 BC during Zika's 11th year the

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city is gonna fall to the Babylonians.

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Zetia is gonna be punished

like we talked about yesterday.

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As we read about in Jeremiah's account,

Zetia is gonna be punished by the king of

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Babylon and and then the temple is gonna

be destroyed in verses eight through 10.

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There.

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After this Alaya is gonna be installed,

as we also talked about, Alaya is gonna

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be installed as the governor to keep

peace, but he's going to face his own

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downfall as the locals are gonna stand

up and rebel against him in the end.

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And.

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Take him out.

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He's gonna be assassinated.

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Chapter 25, as it lands

here, verses 27 through 30.

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You get this interesting note about

Jo Hoya Chin who was originally

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surrendered to Babylon, taking

captive to Babylon to live there.

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He's released from captivity and lives

out the rest of his days in the King's

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Court there in Babylon, which I don.

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I don't totally know what to do with that.

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As far as it being just simply a

note here that's given in scripture.

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I don't think it, it doesn't feel like

a good thing, but it's an interesting

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note that's added about this king here.

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That is just the way

that Second Kings ends.

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You expect it to end differently yet

it's oh, by the way, Jehan was let go

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and he hung out in the King's palace.

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The end.

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I think the significance of that,

my best guess would be that God is

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showcasing the fact that he still

shows favor to the Davidic King.

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The line of the Kings of

David are not done yet.

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Despite the fact that they are being

severely judged for their wrongs,

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God still has his eye on them for

their good, and so I think it's

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important that he ends in Second Kings.

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On that note, suggesting

the story's not over yet.

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It might look like it's over, but

trust me, I'm still working here even

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to the point of giving a Judean King.

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Favor in the heart of an, of a, of an

evil kingdom that hates them or hated them

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enough to at least to destroy the land.

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So I think that's really cool.

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Pretty cool.

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And it shows that God's

not done with them yet.

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I think that means dot to

be continued story not over.

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One thing I, we didn't mention is perhaps

why they killed Giah, the governor.

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It doesn't seem sensical to me

except for maybe this notice that

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Ishmael, son of Niah is the one who.

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Drove the dagger.

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He's called one of the royal family.

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And that would make sense to me.

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His family was deported, his

family was wrongly treated.

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And so it makes sense that they

would see Aliyah as a traitorous.

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They would see him as being a

threat not in the strictest sense,

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'cause they, he can't do anything.

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He's now a puppet of

the Babylonian kingdom.

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But he would stand for

all that they oppose.

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And so they would say,

look dude, don't do this.

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You are a traitor by sitting in

the seat of the kings and therefore

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you need to get out of that king.

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Need to get outta that seat.

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And so even though he's warned not

to do what he's doing or to take the

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threat of Ishmael seriously, he says,

no, you're not telling the truth.

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Don't worry about it.

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He ends up getting assassinated.

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And I think partly because the political

instability that's left in the wake of

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all the destruction that's taken place

here, and then you have loyalists,

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those who still love Judah and Jerusalem

saying, no, she shall rise again.

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Let's install a new king.

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And then you have people that are

saying, this is the way it is now.

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So get Elia steps in, he's

trying to say, submit to Babylon.

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Let's carry on and do what we're called

to do while we still have the land.

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People don't like that.

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Including the royalists, the

nationalists, those who are still

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loyal to the line of David perhaps.

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And they dispose of him because of that.

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So that's a little bit of political

intrigue that I think might

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be worth noting as to why they

kill Giah two Chronicles 36 is

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the parallel of a lot of this.

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And so that's the final chapter

in the book of two Chronicles.

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And remember, Chronicles is dealing

with the Judean kings, only, not

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the kings of the Southern Kingdom.

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It's going to end in a similar

way detail in the fall of Judah.

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But then it's the very end of it

going to reveal to us and remind

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us that it's written post exile.

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This is written after the time in Babylon

and when the people had come back.

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But it opens with Jehovah

has was before Je Joh Kim.

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And so we find him leading this off, but.

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He's not gonna reign for very long.

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Je Hoya Kim is going to be

made king there in verse five.

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As we read about in chapters 24 25, we

get a lot of similar information here.

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Je Hoya Chin is made

king there in verse nine.

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What's interesting though is it

says of je Hoya chin here that in

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verse 10 that he made his brother.

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His brother Zeki King

over Judah and Jerusalem.

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But it wasn't Johan's brother.

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It was Zaka, wasn't Johan's brother.

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We read in Kings that Zika was Johan's

uncle, and so it's probably a textual

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variant there that the word may

mean or suggest relative rather than

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brother or kin rather than brother.

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But if you're reading both of these

back to back, that's why you read in the

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King's account that this was his uncle.

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And here at Re's Brother, it's possible

that the word could mean relative or.

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Or kin rather than.

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Specific naming of yeah, this was the

uncle or the brother in this context.

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But then you get zedekiah after him.

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No, just the wickedness that

persisted during zia's reign.

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Verse 15, the Lord sent persistently

to them by his messengers.

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God's persistent mercy,

continuing to pursue these people.

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He has compassion on them.

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And on his dwelling place

and on Jerusalem there.

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And yet, what did they do?

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They kept mocking the messengers,

despising his words, scoffing

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at his prophets, until the wrath

of the Lord rose against his

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people, and there was no remedy.

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And that's the downfall

of Jerusalem there.

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But I did mention that this is post

exilic, and we read about Cyrus.

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In verse 22, and that the reason

why that's there is because

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they knew this to be true.

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Because they had just experienced this.

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Cyrus announced that he had been tasked

by the Lord to see that the city was re

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reestablished and the temple rebuilt.

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So he's gonna send in 5 39, 5 38 bc

the exiles back to Jerusalem to rebuild

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the temple and rebuild the city.

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Notice here, sometimes scripture will

repeat words to make an emphasis to

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draw your attention to something.

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Even as you're reading through the

narrative, there's often subtle

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themes that are sprinkled throughout.

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So just point out to you one repeated

word that I think is important,

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and it's the fact that Pastor

Peter just noted here in verse 15,

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God had compassion on his people.

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But because they rejected his compassion,

they then verse 17, had no compassion

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from the Chaldeans, the Babylonians.

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And so there's an

interesting dynamic there.

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If you won't enjoy the compassion

of the Lord, you will suffer

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under no compassion from man.

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I think that's an insightful point.

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That is insightful.

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Let's pray and then we'll be

done with this this section.

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God, we rejoice over finishing this.

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Historical section of Israel's

life in the Old Testament of

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second kings, first kings, first

Chronicles, second Chronicles.

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And Lord we pray that we'd be

reflective and learn the lessons

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that you would desire us to learn,

especially what we were just talking

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about there not to despise your

compassion as you continually pursue us.

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You pursue us with your

word through our time in.

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Each and every day through our

time as your word comes to mind by

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your spirit through sermons that

we listen to and other things.

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And so God we pray that we would

heed your word, that we listen to it,

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that we would submit to it and live

faithfully in response to it as well.

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We pray this all in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep reading your Bibles, tuning

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said