What if your best years are still ahead of you and your decades of experience are the very foundation for your next big move?
In this episode of The Scalable Expert Podcast, Tara sits down with Tabatha Jones, also known as The Corporate Escape Sherpa, to talk about the journey from loyal corporate leader to liberated entrepreneur.
Tabatha shares how she left a 30-year career at the age of 50, built a thriving coaching business, and now helps other high-achieving women do the same - before burnout or forced retirement hits. We talk about building your escape plan while still in corporate, carving out an hour a day, and designing a business around freedom, purpose, and clarity.
If you’re over 40 and wondering “what’s next?”, this episode is your permission slip to go for it.
00:00 – Meet Tabatha Jones, The Corporate Escape Sherpa
01:06 – Leaving corporate at 50: Tabatha’s story
02:28 – Coaching career pivots: From promotions to freedom
04:33 – One client’s bold escape plan success story
06:19 – The identity shift and mindset work after corporate
08:00 – How Tabatha supports her clients (programs + offers)
10:00 – What scaling looks like for Tabatha’s business
11:31 – Certification, licensing, and future growth plans
13:01 – The “one hour a day” rule and escaping the “I’m too busy” trap
15:49 – The Candy Crush confession: Avoidance vs action
17:15 – Favorite resources: Gen X Remix podcast + 10X Is Easier Than 2X
18:39 – Final takeaway: It’s never too late
About Tabatha
Tabatha Jones, CEO of Empowered Leadership Coaching, is The Corporate Escape Sherpa guiding midlife women to career freedom. After leaving corporate at 50, she helped Gen-X women advance but saw a growing need to support those ready to exit. Now, she helps ambitious women build profitable, purpose-driven businesses—without risking financial security. Known for her relatable style and transformational results, Tabatha empowers women to take bold steps toward their next act.
About Me:
Hey, it’s your host, Tara Bryan. And I am on a mission to help more business owners learn to infinitely scale their businesses by leveraging the power of online without sacrificing the customer experience or results.
I like to geek out on all things business strategy, marketing, interactive digital and user experience. This podcast is all about what is working, lessons learned and actionable tips to create and grow a thriving online business.
Join us each week as we dive into different strategies, tactics and tips you can apply immediately to your business.
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:Hey everybody welcome
to this week's podcast.
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:I am thrilled to introduce
you to Tabatha Jones.
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:Tabatha, welcome to our podcast.
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:I am so thrilled that you are on today
to get us started tell us a little
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:bit about yourself, who you are, and
a little bit about your business.
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:Tabatha Jones: Absolutely.
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:Thank you so much, Tara.
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:I am Tabatha Jones, the Corporate
Escape Sherpa and the owner of
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:Empowered Leadership Coaching and I
help women leverage their decades of
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:corporate leadership experience to
build thriving businesses that they
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:love, AKA create their escape plan.
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:So let's see a little background.
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:I spent more than 30 years in corporate
20 plus years of that, I was climbing
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:the ladder and, just loved my job.
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:I led technical teams and I had
a lot of fun, did some amazing
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:things, big projects and such.
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:And like I said, I loved my job until
one day I realized I didn't, it was
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super happy after a reorganization
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:that had happened and had been
building my business on the side.
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:So coaching clients after hours on the
weekends, really starting to build the
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:business and decided one day, if not
now, when, and I gave notice and took the
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:leap into this business at the age of 50.
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:Like I said, just really helping
other women do the same now.
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:Tara Bryan: Yeah, that's amazing.
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:So there's so many things.
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:I'm so excited to talk to you about this.
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:First of all, I want
to be called a Sherpa.
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:Like that's super cool.
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:Like, I love that you,
I love that you do that.
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:So first of all, one of the things
around the scalable expert podcast is
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:my audience loves hearing stories about
people who have an expertise have been
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:able to take that expertise, have the
confidence and turn it into a business.
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:And then stories about like how you've
been able to grow and scale it from,
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:creating something from scratch.
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:And so I love your story because
I think it's something that's
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:similar to a lot of people, right?
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:You're in your J-O-B and then you
decide to put your shingle up,
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:whether it's a side hustle or becomes
a full time gig at first, right?
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:Usually always becomes a full time gig,
especially the people that I'm talking to.
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:And so tell us a little bit about,
What was that shift like for you?
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:Because you're really helping your, like,
your ideal customer is really you, right?
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:Like, when you left corporate is to
be able to go and do the same thing.
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:Like, how did you wrestle through that?
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:Tabatha Jones: When I first left
corporate, I was coaching on
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:career advancement strategies.
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:It was something I was really
passionate about women.
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:We don't promote ourselves enough
and it causes us to fall behind.
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very recently, actually a few months back.
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spending most of my time doing?
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and feeding this fire?
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more and working more and more with
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is these women were waiting until
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an early retirement package or not so
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because their job was going away and
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know, building a business takes time.
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women make the right decisions and
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start getting themselves more visible
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using a lot of those career advancement
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themselves feeling very successful.
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a woman who wanted to leave.
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retirement package three years ago.
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herself, she couldn't take it.
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I have too many bills.
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me, she said, the next time this
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at the end of:
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still with, the building and the growing.
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able to take women on the same journey
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you and I'm catching you.
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:Tara Bryan: I love that.
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different things that are, that
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to help somebody transition from, a
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a, as a woman over 50, that sense
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wait, what have I been doing?
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now it's my turn, right?
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am right now isn't where I want to stay.
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it's, whatever it is that you're doing.
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that into your coaching that you're doing?
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that point in your life where
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and take it into the next chapter?
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:Tabatha Jones: That is a
big part of the journey.
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coming up to 50 years old, I'd been
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when, and it comes down to.
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50 to your point, we start looking
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of the house and you have more time to
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out who you are and what do you really
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this 50 plus bracket and it's scary.
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:It is so rewarding in so many ways,
there's a lot of unknowns, especially
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corporate, where things are very set a
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supporting you, you're supporting them.
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:It's different, but I say, you've
got to pick your plan, pick
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feeling of regret when I'm older.
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about when I hit 70, am I going
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:What made you stay if you weren't happy or
even if you were, but you knew there was
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:Life's too short.
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that their lives are just taken too soon.
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that end and say, why didn't you do this?
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you're thinking that same
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:Just remember you're not alone, right?
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section of your life you're in, right?
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:Like you don't want to not do something.
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look back on with regret.
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little bit about your business model.
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:So how are you serving
your women as their Sherpa?
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:Tabatha Jones: So a couple of different
ways, I do have an upcoming two day
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:workshop, which I can share with you.
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we're going to talk about gaining some
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:I do offer a group program that's
fully supportive, as I sure put
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:you through this transition and
getting again, very clear because
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:What is it you really want to do and
helping you through that discomfort
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:because it's going to be uncomfortable.
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:There is a lot of mindset
coaching because we don't always
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:We have identity things.
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:I've always identified with
being a high achieving corporate
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:woman who brings on this great
six, multiple six figure salary.
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:What if I can't replace that?
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:What if, right?
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:All the worries.
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:A lot of mindset coaching and
then strategy, really, where do
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your money, and your energy?
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:I laugh a lot because we know social
media is a part of the game when
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:you're running an online business.
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:There are other options, and we want to
make sure that you're aware of those.
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:Making sure that you're investing
money in the right places
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:So it is a fully guided 12 week
program, and then there are options
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just say, you know what?
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day what I need to do.
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I can support women who are
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:And what I love about your
business model is you really have.
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:You've created ways that people can work
with you one on one as your top tier,
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:but then you have additional ways where
people can get involved, either a workshop
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:or group coaching or whatever, so very
smart, very good, that's the way to go.
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looks like for you, as a scalable
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:How do you start to think about
scaling beyond your time and
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:Tabatha Jones: That's a really great
question that I probably should
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:So every January, I don't do the
wishy washy resolution kind of things.
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:I sat down and I set my goals, life,
career, health, finances, et cetera.
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:For me, scaling means having a larger
impact, impacting more lives, preferably
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:spending less time doing that, you know,
so looking for ways that I can offer more,
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:maybe courses or getting into larger talks
and conversations, there's just so much.
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because there's just so many opportunities
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:for scaling and often we forget about
them, Growing the business, I will
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:have coaches who work for me at some
point that will be taking on a lot
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:of the hands on coaching aspects.
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:They'll likely be women that I've
trained who are ready to take the leap
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:and have walked the journey and can
understand it because it takes a different
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understand where this woman's journey
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:. So when I think of that, there's so much I
could probably talk to you all day about.
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:Lots of ideas and plans
on whiteboards, right?
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:Well, and I mean, one of the one of
the best ways, just like what you
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own certification program where you
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actually helping people on your
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:behalf, because then that becomes that
scalable model where you can make an
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:Tabatha Jones: Absolutely.
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:My financial advisor always asks, she
says, how much longer do you plan to work?
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to . She said, is there a number?
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:It's until I don't want to
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:And I think for me, one of the
things that when we're helping
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:our customers, it's about choice.
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:It's if you have a scalable offer, if
you have those things in place where,
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:you know, things are, are operating
without your time, then you still
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:have the choice to do one on one,
you still have the choice to show
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:up as much as you want to, but your
business is still growing and doing
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:And that to me is the trick, right?
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:Like it's yes, until I don't want to,
because I have other things that I want
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:to be doing, but the business is still
serving you as you're moving forward.
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:And that's the scalable part from my
perspective is you take your expertise,
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you start to grow it beyond yourself.
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for me, it comes up where I
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:And I'm like, how do you turn your
Sherpa concept into a scalable version
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:Like how do you automate that?
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:How do you make that into kind
of your, animated character or
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:So that's where my mind goes.
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:All right, tell us, what's one,
big, tip or trick, or actionable
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:item that you would give to my
audience around, what you do?
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:Tabatha Jones: You know, I would say
that I'm just going to use the one
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:thing I hear all the time, which is I
just don't have time to start building
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:I'm too busy.
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:I work full time.
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:I've got kids, dogs,
parents, whatever it is.
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:I'm too busy.
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:The reality is one hour a day.
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:You can find one hour a day that
gives you six full weeks a year.
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for a post the other day.
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that you could get ahead.
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year period of time where you're building
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getting clear on your unique value.
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:It can be identifying who you want to
work with or reaching out and talking
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us who have been through this type
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:Anything you want, but just do
something and use your calendar to
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:Tara Bryan: just like working
out, just like all the things.
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:Tabatha Jones: That's why we
get up at five in the morning.
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:Tara Bryan: Exactly.
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:Tabatha Jones: But we find ourselves doing
so many things without even realizing it.
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:Full confession.
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:I had a candy crush.
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:Obsession.
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:Tara Bryan: How much
time I spending on that?
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:Tabatha Jones: And I wasn't
making progress on something
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hour a day, you could be spending
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of popping little candies.
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scrolling, looking at funny animal
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uptime and start building toward that
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two things about that, which
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time is dictated within a window, right?
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time works when you're working.
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yourself, you don't have to
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day, you can actually build a lucrative
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to sit in a chair for eight hours, 40
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and so I love that because I think
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that happens when you leave corporate
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your own thing is that time shifts.
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sure you teach this too, but you know
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just avoiding something like, it's
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that you're supposed to be doing.
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thing that you were doing, you
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get it done, and then you would have
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sure you handle all of that.
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and it comes down to, it's
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working full time, just let's face it.
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don't work eight hour days.
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traveling, there's whatever it is.
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you take an hour and do something
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just stay stuck and unhappy?
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you got to pick your hard.
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is building your future is the
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:Okay, so tell us about a tool or a
book or resource that you could not
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there's so many things.
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podcasts, podcasts like yours.
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you can get just quick tips while
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your hour a day because you can multitask.
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the 10X Is Easier Than 2X book.
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because I could multitask while
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when you come into scaling, right,
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what's holding me back?
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I could scale to 10 times just by doing
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when you hear someone else say them.
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things that I would highly recommend.
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quarter, that was just fascinating
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just remember, 10X is easier than 2X
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easier to actually do something that seems
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or two-sy things as you're going forward.
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you think about things.
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which I love because I'm a Gen Xer.
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that podcast, but how else can
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to learn more about what you do?
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the two easiest ways.
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from LinkedIn, which is 10 Steps
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website, it's empowered-leader.Com,
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updates out there as well.
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:Tara Bryan: Awesome.
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:Very cool.
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:All right, Tabatha, give us the final
word that we can take with us as we
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:Tabatha Jones: Oh my gosh.
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:It's never too late.
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:It is never too late to pivot.
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:It's never too late to
go after your dream.
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:It's never too late to
change your direction.
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:So that's what I share.
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:It's a Gen X motto, I think at this
point, because we worry about that.
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:Tara Bryan: Amazing.
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:All right, Tabatha.
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:Thank you so much for
being on the podcast.
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:We appreciate you for my
audience, have a great week and
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:we will talk to you next week.