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Summary

In this episode of Devil's Trap Podcast, Diana and Blizz discuss season 8, episode 15 of Supernatural, 'Man's Best Friend with Benefits.' They review the episode, share their thoughts on the title, and discuss the director and writers. They also talk about their personal experiences, including getting pedicures and attending music concerts. The conversation then delves into the plot of the episode, focusing on the introduction of James, a cop who is also a witch, and his familiar, Portia. They discuss the implications of being a witch and the challenges James faces. The episode ends with a discussion about the trials and Dean's concerns about Sam's ability to complete them. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the plot of the episode and the actions of the characters. They talk about the investigation into James and the discovery of his involvement in the murders. They also discuss the relationship between James and Portia, as well as the dynamics within the witch community. The hosts mention the use of spells and astral projection in the episode. They also share some humorous observations and jokes throughout the conversation. In this episode, Jerk and Bitch discuss the Supernatural episode 'The Curious Case of Dean Winchester.' They explore the concept of astral projection and its portrayal in the show. They also discuss the dynamic between Sam and Dean and the importance of trust and honesty in their relationship. The hosts highlight the fun elements of the episode, such as the presence of a dog and a cat, the witch bar, and the witch cop. However, they also point out the plot holes and missed opportunities in the storyline.

Links:

https://www.wikihow.com/Perform-Astral-Projection

Keywords

Supernatural, season 8, episode 15, review, title, director, writers, pedicure, music concert, cop, witch, familiar, trials, plot, investigation, James, murders, relationship, witch community, spells, astral projection, humor, Supernatural, episode review, astral projection, Sam and Dean, trust, honesty, witch bar, witch cop, plot holes

Chapters

00:00

Introduction and Episode Review

08:28

The Introduction of Portia

15:51

The Complex Relationship Between James and Portia

29:51

Supernatural Elements: Spells and Astral Projection

53:57

Exploring Astral Projection https://www.wikihow.com/Perform-Astral-Projection

01:07:14

Plot Holes and Missed Opportunities

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast. I'm Diana.

And oh, blizz.

And this week we're going to talk about season eight, episode 15, man's best friend with benefits. Yeah, indeed it is. It is. Oh.

Eww. That's gross.

keyboard is

Well, that's what you've been up to other than having flying hardware.

Oh, so I actually hadn't like thought about what I was going to say during the segment and cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Uh, so see, oh, I got a pedicure today for the first time in a very long time. And that was, that was exciting. I went to a new place and with the rain that I found it, well, I, I go to this place called stretch labs sponsored by stretch lab. Not really, but I would like to be, cause y 'all are fucking expensive. Um,

nice.

Oh yeah.

I kind of got like suckered into one of their membership deals and now I'm too embarrassed to like make it less. And I have to be like, y 'all, I didn't, I didn't need this many stretches, but I just kind of nodded my head when you presented a package to me and now I have to stretch every week. But anyway, so there is a nail salon right next door to the stretch lab. And I asked the girl who was stretching me out at sounds gross. Um,

It does, yes.

If she'd been there and she was like, no, I looked at the reviews and I decided not to. And I was like, how bad are these reviews? And she said they were pretty bad. So after I got I was done stretching, I went in my car and I like pulled up the Google and it was like a three point nine. So then I googled another nail salon and I went there and they had just like just opened like they were pretty new. So it's always nice. It's like, you know, like they're not all grossed out yet.

Oh yeah.

So it was, yeah, that was fun. And they had those fun little flowers everywhere and they had a big sign on the wall for Polish girls.

They did. And he sent me a picture. Polish. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've been really busy. I know I went and saw some music, which I know everybody's shocked. No, I saw Matt Hillier and Reckless Kelly all the other night. And then I got to see my niece in a cheerleading competition.

Yeah, so what about you?

And then that's about it. Nothing too crazy. Ate some good food this weekend. Was super stressed about a lot of things. So I ate my feelings a lot, but I'm okay with that. Sometimes you do that. My option was it was spend, spend or eat them. So I went with, I went with eat them this time. We'll get spend next.

That's okay. Oh no. Yeah, sometimes it's delicious.

Yep, yep, oh, things are just not healthy. But fun, but fun.

I know. I know. Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, I used to have just drank my way through it. So I feel like that's a little bit of an improvement. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe.

Yeah, yeah. We're fine, we're all fine here. We're all fine here. Oh, so are you ready to talk about this week's episode? Okay, so the gross title, man's best friend with benefits. Just saying that is just gross, I don't like that.

We'll see. I'll be fine. We're all fine. Totally fine. Totally fine.

Yes, let's do it.

Yeah, upsetting.

It first aired February 20th, 2013 and was directed by John F. Showalter. And he has done, I think he was the most prolific director of the show. And so we last saw him with What's Up Tiger Mommy and before that Out With The Old. So, you know, he's been around the show and this was directed, that was who directed it.

And it was written by Buckner and Rosie Lemming. And so I thought it might be fun to start this episode out with what Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki had to say about this episode. It is available on YouTube. I did find it through the Supernatural Wiki, but here is that bit.

We visited them on set to get the latest scoop on Supernatural. So the show makes the list at number two.

saying this but you might want to sound it in a joke. So, the story of the 23rd episode called Man's Best Friend with Benefits, the title kind of tickled us all. It's nothing like a nice show about bestiality. That's a kid. Or do I? We're dealing with a witch and witches have something called a familiar. The witch kind of follows them around and can take on the form of a human or a dog so it happens to be this beautiful familiar that seeks us out because her witch master is in trouble.

Yes, I'm living there. It's interesting. Well, our season eight, we do find out some history behind the name Winchester and the family of the Winchesters. In fact, we are sitting in the most elaborate, expensive set I think the show has ever built. We are actually in the Minnowletter bunker right now. It's going to offer up a lot more information into these guys lives. I think it's a slight game changer. It's going to give them new weapons. It's going to give them new spells. It's going to give them new ways of handling all the stuff that they've been dealing with.

This girl!

Yeah, so they were something weren't they?

I was getting my jam on.

Yeah, that was something.

Yeah, that was 10 on top. It was a show that used to be on MTV. I have no idea who either of those girls were or are.

Nope.

But the boys were funny. All right. So that is what they thought that, you know, perhaps this episode was about bestiality as the fucking title implies. So but we get a recap, right? And we start off, we do hear the dulcet tones of Cordelia over saying spells in the beginning, which I enjoyed.

They were they were.

Correct.

Yeah, so our recap is all about the witches and the trials. That's it. I'm just going for that. That's what I went with. So witches and trials, which is funny. These are not two things you usually like to have together. Different type of trial.

No, yeah, typically those did not go well for the participants.

No, but different trials. So, yeah, so our episode opens up in St. Louis, Missouri, in an alley. And we've got a a woman who appears to be a sex worker of some type and a man walking down the hallway. But somebody are walking down the alley and somebody is watching them. And this man leaves and then another man pops up and he. Well.

Well, he gives her money and also her shoes are way too high to be in that alley. Like, I mean, it really like does keep like you far away from like the rats that are on the ground, but it makes it hard to run from the rats that are on the ground.

Oh yeah.

Yeah. And then the guy that pops up flashes the badge and she is under arrest. So that's not good. Um,

And...

Well, no, she's not under arrest, he never says that. He just cuffs her and then he chokes her, which is more disturbing.

That's true. And blood, but not even just choke is like a like a. Yeah, yes.

neck explodes, like her neck's exploded with blood, like, from the squeezing. I don't I don't know that's how that happens.

It's like ripped into flesh, ripped into her flesh. Like it's like a push in through the thumb. It gets like a hand tearing of flesh. It's very upsetting.

It's like somebody ripped - I think we'll hear later, like somebody like ripped him apart. It has very strong fingers.

ripped yeah with their hands.

Hmm.

Yep. So the guy wakes up and has a dream. Woo.

Yay, it's a dream. What a relief. He's just seeing these. He's having a terrible, terrible nightmare that he murdered this chick. And then his sweet puppy dog gets in bed with them and you're like, oh, sweet doggy knows he had a nightmare and wants to cuddle. That's very cute. And then they go back to sleep.

us and the puppers is the Doberman varietal and he's but also is a smaller so I think it's a pincher I'm not sure we should you know we I should have had to do that like you type the cars we should have also typed the breed of the dog.

Sorry, I failed. I was very impressed with the dog. And the next very pretty doggo. And in the morning, he's making his coffee and opens his trash can to dump the coffee grounds and sees his own button down shirt and they're covered in blood. So RutRoe, maybe not a dream.

But very pretty doggy. Very pretty pupper.

Yikes, oh Keith Morrison, what would happen? You know, so, Dateline, to start something and...

But Sam and Dean are pulling into a motel and

So they're pulling into the sleepy lodge motel and on the side it says, Oh, my typo says indoor poon. I'm assuming that's supposed to say indoor pool and then kitchenette and then sauna and air conditioned sauna.

Mm -hmm.

Not a lot of motels have saunas.

What, like, what are they, what is, like, what is that code for? Like, is there something else that they're calling a sauna? Like, because that place does not have a sauna as I would call one.

Oh no. If it did, I don't want to use it.

I don't know. I mean, it'd be sanitized, I think, right? Like, no, no, it wouldn't be. Okay, moving on.

And they are having a deep discussion about the merits and flaws in the different three stooges.

Yes, Sam believes that Schimpf was a way better stooge than Curly. I have no opinion.

Neither. And basically they're in town. So they're in St. Louis because James, their cop friend who saved their lives once, texted them and asked them to come help him. And...

Okay. And so we're going to, this is one of the things I don't like about this episode. And so they start implying that we knew is sort of like a Garth thing, right? But so we knew James, we've just never talked about James actually on the show. And we've never like actually encountered him in a previous episode, but it kind of almost gas, you know, gas lights me enough.

It got you into thinking you're like, wait, did I miss something?

Did I see him? Did I forget him? Like, was he a small role? To the point that I look every time to see, wait, was he in another episode and just a small character and I forgot about it. I think that just kind of doesn't like it's you could have pulled a character from the past. Like you've dealt with enough cops. I think it would have made more sense to set this in like we're sort of going into this very different world that's supposed to be part of theirs, right?

that. No.

They do this occasionally.

but it doesn't fit at all. And I think if they had maybe had just placed it into a location that we actually knew, this may have held more.

Yeah, instead of a new one that where it was make believe that we already knew it.

We just go far off the rails on this, I think. So anyways, that's my first part is this like this the immediately part where you I'm sure you went, did I know this guy who who's James?

Yeah, I was concerned. I'm like, fuck. Google, Google, Google, Google. And and we get a somewhat sweet exchange here while Dean is offering to go get some while he's going to get beer and offers to get Sam something. And he really wants to make sure that Sam is OK with to finish the trials. It seems nice, but it's really still just questioning it.

Yeah

Yeah, I mean, I don't know what his motive for that is. But he goes to go get beer because we can't be sober.

And Sam is just puttering around the motel, goes to the bathroom and hears a noise at the door, opens the door and it's the Doberman. Oh, yay, Pupper, surprise Pupper. And he just opens the door and the dog runs in and jumps on the bed like they do. And she just wants belly rubs and she has a collar, but there's no tags on it. Belly rubs for everybody. And so Dean gets back and Sam is like.

It's our Pepper!

same.

Concerned so he runs out the door to intercept Dean. He's like, so my fault She just showed up at the door and can we stay look at she stayed the night? She just wanted belly scratches scratches will find her owner in the morning and Dean's like what and Sam opens the door and it is no longer a doper man But a very beautiful woman laying there on the bed

And Dean is just like, yeah, of course she can say that. And this is where like, it just also starts. Yeah. We, things start getting weird and just, and just uncomfortable weird sometimes too. So Sam whips out his blade because they think she's a shape.

Lore falls apart. Yeah.

And she's like, no, I'm a familiar. I belong to James Frampton that you're here to meet with. And Dean's like, what the fuck? That means James is a witch. So now we got cop witch. Witch cop? Cop witch. Cop witch. Yeah. Not witch cop.

Eww.

top which but so she does say that she gets a better feel for people when she's a dog and I think that's interesting and I do like wonder like you know there's the what do you think when you're a dog type thing do you think like a dog do you think like and but I also get the how you treat me as an animal like will

Yeah.

or like a person. I know, I wanna know that too.

mean she's your woman too so like either way you're gonna judge what type of person by how they treat you right so and interesting that she thinks she gets treated better as a dog than as a woman that's fucked up but also her name is porsche and we just put down my mom's uh cat name portion her little paw prints in the kitchen so we'll pour white out for for kitty porsche and also gross that she belongs to james that's gross

It's a little weird because the way that the relationship that they define in this and they continue to explain this relationship throughout this episode, it's very odd because own is the word she used. But then later she gets like basically offended by that book. We'll get there when we get there.

Yeah, yeah. So we start off with this and we are immediately running into problem territory just because it's just, I'm part of just a world we're not familiar with, right?

Familiar. Hey, we had to like the Peewee Herman like word of the day and like, ah, every time we say familiar. Anyways, but we've got a she confirms that James is still a cop and that she's the one that called them for help. So he's got something going wrong with him and he's going to have a breakdown and they need him. They need they need to help him. But Dean is not in that witches at all. And.

Hehehehe

As we know, this is a trait of Dean's. He thinks they're gross.

Yeah. Yeah. But Portia like frickin she frickin steps up to it. It's like gets in his face about it and it's like. Mm hmm.

And she rips him a new one for his ignorant bigotry against witches. Bitch.

And Sam and Dean both agree it was hot.

Yeah, no, she, it was, she just tore him and, but it was all done well and way to go. And that's also gross. So, but then we go to the club, the bar, which club, which club that has no name that I wish existed. I want to live there. Why is this not my bar?

Mm -hmm.

Witch Club.

His name is just a symbol, I'm sorry.

So cool. How do you put that in your Uber app? I don't know.

Really? That is a good question. So we've got James there having a drink. Well, first, we do get to see some wizards chest being chest being played, which is pretty exciting. Yeah, that was pretty neat. And then James is having a drink and this guy comes up and meet him, Spencer. And that guy's like, oh, you look like shit. Well, that's not very nice. And this guy, Spencer, is like, you should talk to somebody or go get some help.

with their minds.

And he's like, there's no medicine for this. What do you want me to do? Like who talks to who, who helps witches? And the guy's just like, well, I'll take a break. It's all your work. It's just weird. You know, basically it's the beginning of an implication that being a witch is at odds with being a cop.

Yep, and there is a reason that witches don't become cops and that's, you know, but probably valid, right? You know, they're operating in the underworld for the most part, and a lot of them are doing bad, shady things.

But they don't have to, so why does it matter?

I don't know, but this is their community. This is, it is. I mean, it's a very old, apparently, there's a lot of big, it sounds like they have problems within their community already. Like we start hearing some more things that are going on, but.

That seems very bigoted from their community against... or prejudice, I should say.

Mm -hmm.

Clearly they're all like, there are a lot of old people, old witches in this place. And like, if they're like that old and they're witches, like imagine how old they are. They're like probably like thousands of years old, like in there and like that building looks really old. So we don't know how long they've been there. So we've been trying to bat down a lot of old, old ideas that are just built in there, but we can do it. All right. So I still...

Okay, yeah.

True. True.

So we go to James saying like he can't find his dog. He's lost his dog.

I think I've pushed her away.

Is he gonna put up like last?

Which picture did you put on the last sign? Do you find them missing persons or a last dog sign or both?

Do you call the pound or do you call the hospital?

Yes, I think is the answer. And she has now shared with Sam and Dean about the nightmares and potentially murders that James has have like occurred. But and then she explains how he's how James has telepathically shut her out.

So we go back to the motel.

Well, we learned that. Yes, we learned that because we also learned that familiars and their masters can communicate telepathically. So this is a new fact we learned, but now he's blocking her out.

Yeah.

Yeah. And, but she knows that he doesn't trust other witches and that, and she, and she confessed that she's the one that reached out to the Sam and Dean. And then we cut to the park where a blind guy is just out for a walk at night in the park by himself. And.

Witch please.

I know there's this scene does there's a whole lot of things in here. Why was that girl in that alley? Why would why is this dude walking with a cane? You know, he's visually impaired. We don't know what's going on with him. Why, you know, just but also like, why is this detective just like running around doing this? Like.

It makes no sense.

running your hand and shaking choking him and ripping his throat open which is what happens. Yeah.

Just yeah, and how again, how, how is this happening? Okay, but I don't know. So gross.

Well, back at James's house the next day, we have Sam and Dean in the living room while James and Portia are loudly arguing in the other room about her inviting Sam and Dean there. So he finally, James comes out, Portia is back in her dog form and Dean just calls James out for being a witch. And he's like, are you here to help a pile on?

He doesn't just call he starts in on him right like it's like calling him out He just like starts immediately just starts giving him shit. That's fucked up Dean like say hello like He was still your friend like give him the benefit of the doubt like I don't get this at all

Yeah. Well, they weren't really friends, though. Remember, they were talking about like, do they really owe this guy that has saved their life once? I don't know. It's kind of a weird dynamic implied. But they're basically they need to decide if the dreams of if what's happening are dreams or if they're real murders. And he's like, oh, no, I figured it out. They're they're fucking real. People did die. Their flesh was torn into like with bare hands. And, you know, I got I found his bloody shirt.

So this does not look good for me. And they're like, well, maybe you pissed off another witch and they like hexed you and like made you do these things or something like that. But right now we're at four deaths. So we got to figure this shit out.

So time for bondage fun.

Yes, they're going to chain them to the bed.

Sure, these are very, so these are just in baby. How much weight does this add to the car? And I guess it's helpful in the winter, but. So, yep. And so we go back to their motel room.

Yeah, they're multi -purpose chains.

Mm -hmm. Which at this point it seems odd. They just chain this guy to the bed and they just go back to their motel room. Like why don't they just do all their research at this guy's nice ass house? It seems like not nice. I mean it's a nice house. He's got plenty of space. It's just odd.

Well, I think they're trying to keep and that's also like half the time it seems like they're working against James instead of with him and that seems stupid. So yeah, but Dean's got get clearly gathering ingredients for a spell.

inconsistent.

Yeah, so they're doing getting ready to make a spell and. They're discussing Sam's been doing some research and, you know, they figured out that the crime scenes are exactly what Jay, Jayson Scribd, Jayson, James described to them and that he but interestingly, he has been kind of moving up in the ranks a little faster than normal. And so maybe and has a like 100 percent solve rate for his cases.

James Doe.

So maybe he's made some people mad, but as Dean says, booga booga on his side, but we've got, yeah.

Mayhaps, mayhaps. He is also concerned because they have never actually used the witch killing spell because the last time they got interrupted, well, no, the last time didn't work because the chicken feet spoiled. So he is concerned that we're not sure if this actually works. But what he's really concerned about is the Trials.

Yeah. And he's worried about them getting too far down the path. And then Sam won't be able to do one of the trials and Dean can't jump back in because they had to start back over from the beginning. And Sam is rightfully offended by this.

Yeah, fuck you, Dean. Like, what the hell? Like, and you finally just as you know, you can only trust yourself, right? Like, I'm a big boy over here. Like, clearly, I'm an adult. You can only trust yourself, Dean. We are done because we're both adults.

Yeah. Yeah.

And that's and there we go. So they go back to trying to determine who they're going to use this kill at which killing spell against. And basically the goal is to use this against whoever's making this happen to James. But at the end of the day, they may have to use it on James. But also they're like they kind of discuss it. Sam points out this wouldn't be the first pass they've ever given if they let James go. And he's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, but people are being ganked.

plus the difference between James versus like Benny and Kate, as Benny and Kate were forced to be what they are. They were forced to become monsters of some kind. Whereas James made a conscious choice to be a witch.

But he's not necessarily, you know, sacrificing people to the great darkness. Like, it's not what that being me. And even like, we'll see that when they call Dean a fucking wiccan. Anyhow, so they have this blah, blah, blah thing argument, but we go to the morgue.

evil. I agree.

Yeah. And our.

And once again, we have a delightful, delightful corner.

medical examiner. He is a very pretty fun and he's explaining to especially agent Keith aka Sam that these bodies were like shredded as if by bare hands and introduces him to Ed who's one of the other detectives. But very dismissive.

And he's just shady and he's a shade. He's a shady sus sus sus cop. And it's just like, there's a witness that wasn't put in the report.

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. So he just looks like Sam's trying to make a point that they are not doing their job solving this case. And this guy's like, why the fuck are the feds here? And yeah, this is no case. But Sam is able to drop off a piece of James's shirt soaked in blood for them to test.

And he was like, yeah, you left this at the scene. Like, I guess we all just missed something. We just missed this piece of shirt that I ripped off when I'm just handling to you. But okay, whatever, fine. We're gonna get on my new favorite bar.

Yeah, we're gonna go to the bar and Portia is escorting Dean into the bar and they, Dean is getting these stink eye all over. It is hilarious. They are staring this motherfucker down and she's like, you can basically, they can tell that he's an outsider is what Portia tells them. And he asks, are they all witches? And she says, and stuff. What is the and stuff? I want to know what the and stuff is.

There's many different things that are in there. I mean, I would know if you got to hang out at this bar.

So he makes some kind of a, Portia's talking about how, you know, explaining how a familiar finds their master and then they become inseparable and she gets real offended when he makes a pet reference and tries to explain this unbreakable bond and melding of souls that would die for each other. Which one?

I'm not a pa -

Now, between master.

Just not, not ever, not ever, not a pet ever. And I like her, I like Parshil a lot. But so, so, smelding, blah, blah, blah. And somebody snaps at her and it's Philippe Leschat. And so we, as we know, that means the cat in French.

Mm -hmm.

But according to the supernatural Wiki, it says it is pronounced and they have C H A T T E in quotes, which is a French term for pussy. So.

Oh. Huh.

But so, but I'm like, isn't that also cat? So shut. But I'm just gonna say shut up. Or I don't know, I just want to say something aggressive in French. That means pussy, but shut up. I don't think that's it. Shots.

Yeah, that's fair.

I don't think so. I wouldn't know that. I don't know French. Well.

I meant to look that up, but I forgot.

Porsche introduces Dean as quote, Wiccan from Detroit. And so that is his now his cover with the witches. He's a Wiccan from Detroit.

Why is that cool? I would be like, I don't want to fucking wicken in here. Like.

I'd be like, my God, it sounds exhausting. Like. All right. So I was going to make some terrible joke about like listening to like the like some like Detroit music and. Doing something like that was going to be mean, so I left it alone. All right. So they they sit down and Dean starts sneezing.

No, no problem with weekends, but it just, it just.

No, no, it's not going to go well. We're just now we like Detroit music. So and I don't have a problem with wickets. It just doesn't seem tough in this environment. I've always really cool like witches and others to be like a Wiccan from Detroit. I'm like, cool. That is something that will help us.

Well, yeah, so well, he probably would have blown his cover if they gave him too much cred. But she but Dean starts has start sneezing. And apparently this frequently happens around cats and Philippe. And while that's happening, Philippe and Portia are talking about the gossip and buzz around James. Hmm.

And Philippe implies that he brings it on himself by being a witch cop.

Yeah, so a bunch of people are talking shit about him.

Because that's what he thinks it's ridiculous and Dean agrees because it is which cop it's dumb. It is also sounds like a terrible TV show. Listen, I don't want to see which cop has that been done. Is there a witch cop show? How's it not been a witch cop show?

It just isn't time.

No, I want to see it. I want to see that. I don't know. I think there has. I just look into it. If it was, didn't do well. So then the man Spencer from the previous or earlier scene that met James at the witch club approaches and Dean very awkwardly introduced himself. Not believable. Basically, we find out that this is Spencer.

Did it.

And he's a witch and I guess like a mentor kind of witch or something. And Dean asks him if there's a spell for a witch to control the actions of another witch. And so I was like, Oh, that's just not possible.

And that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. This seems like it is like basic fucking magic. Like, like how hard is this fucking spell? Like to control another, which it seems like would be like the fifth thing that you would learn, right? Like maybe not like the first thing, but like controlling what other people do. Like that's kind of magic, right? Isn't that the point?

Like why else would you do magic? I don't know. Just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

You can do magic for other means of control. However, I'm just saying it seems like a pretty normal spell. Spencer.

Yeah. So I mean, probably something fairly powerful, but not like unheard of. That's what's weird.

Yeah, it just seems like making people do things like it's been in like the history of magic for like all the time, all the time, just which has made me do stuff. That's why that's why like I'm pretty sure like in all of like the trials that we were jokingly talking about earlier, which has made people do things.

Mm -hmm. All of it. Yeah. Yes. All of it. Yeah.

Yeah, but it's time for them to leave. So Spencer called Beckins Philippe, who promptly turns into a cat and they leave.

Meow. Such a cute little kitty cat too. Just a little black, all black with little yellow eyes and so cute little purple tails.

Well, as they're leaving, Dean does get in between seasons, he gets a phone call and Sam has got confirmation that the blood on James's shirt was from the murder victim. So we know now that it's real.

Yes.

It's a piece of evidence that can point to many things, but according to them, this just solves it all. And like, clearly this is the only evidence we need that there was victim's blood on this shirt.

That was in his trash, yeah. So.

Yeah, um, I don't think so dudes, but whatever. And we go back to Porsche because Porsche was just shackling her boyfriend.

Well, but oh, yeah, we do.

She's very sad about it as she chains him to the bed.

This seems like a very unnecessary position to put him in. Like, why are you spreading glingham?

I mean, did you see him?

I know those chains are pretty heavy, but like this, like you think he could like sit up or was he just like, I'm just, I would like to rest. Like, can we not like give it like to the chains had some like give, you know, so you could like move around this. It's unnecessary.

It doesn't seem like a comfortable way to lay at all to be chained up.

Well, as she's changing him, they start making out because apparently they are a thing. And so there we go. They are they are not just familiar and master. They are a hot item.

They're boning. So she gives the dog a bone and while, that works. He gives the dog a bone. Yeah. He gives the dog a bone and then she like can see in his head again. I would say, no, thank you. If I, if I went into your head and I saw this, we're not going to go, I'm not going in your head anymore.

Is it?

I don't know.

And now she sees visions of him murdering people. Yeah. I said.

Or we're not banging. I don't know. Pick one. I was like, I said, I was like, talk about a vibe kill. Oh, but yeah.

Yeah, there's just pitter -patter blood splatter everywhere.

everywhere. So now we've got the salmon Dean decide they're going to break into, um, J's James's house. So now they've decided because the blood was real that they need that James is the bad guy and they need to fucking kill James. So they're going to break in and use a spell on him. This is the decision. This is so weird.

They're going to bust in there and just like kill -

Understand this why don't you just call James like he knew you had a shirt and just be like James your shirts got the blood on it We're coming over. Why do you know this blood matches that? Okay, let's figure out what can we figure out some more? Not I'm just gonna break into your house in the middle of the night and like throw a stick at you

Yeah, well, and murder you in bed.

throw a spell at you while you are chained to your own bed. That's dark, right? Anyways.

It's fucked up, man. I don't - this is like - they don't even like give it - and then like, Porsche is like in the bathroom.

She's doing them ever important post -sex pee probably. I mean, God bless her.

That's how you stop, if you don't do that, you get a UTI. Pee after you have sex, ladies.

Yeah. And anyways, so and she's like, no, I saw in his head while we were banging that, by the way, we have a very unusual relationship. It's not really supposed to be like that. But but no, it's OK. But no, no, no. Let me give him a chance, because even though our relationship is real fucking weird, we don't need to talk about that. He has no awareness of these crimes and no motive. So let's figure it out.

And then Dean's just stuck on y 'all fuck and he's she's just grossed out by him. And then Sam is grossed out by him.

It's all weird. Yeah. And Sam goes back to the police station and Ed is like mocking Sam for being, for the FBI having time to even look up this case.

just really trying to downplay like this is a nothing case like why are you even here? Nothing to see here. There were any witnesses or like, throats ripped open by bare hands. It's boring. So this is East St. Louis, sir. Like I don't know where the fuck you're from. But in East St. Louis, this shit happens all the fucking time.

Yeah.

No... Totally fine, totally normal.

The things these things happen. This happens. Yeah. So Sam kind of tries to poke the bear about it, but with commenting about how, you know, not having James on the on the case right now and then about how fast he got promoted. And you can tell Ed's bothered, but he kind of tries to just, you know, defer it. But. Now we've got Dean and Portia in a fucking abandoned warehouse.

What?

Of course, it wouldn't be an episode without one. Where they are going to meet. I know.

There's actually a warehouse like is in the in the contract for supernatural like it must appear in every episode like or warehouse gets mad. I don't know where houses now a thing like it has feelings. Warehouse is going to sue. But now like Dean's using the word warlock like why like are you just fucking with him like.

I bet there is one warehouse per episode.

Warehouse mad.

I don't know. It's so weird. And he's meeting. They're meeting with a warlock who's anyways, a snitch in the so they want to see if he knows anything about what could be going on here.

snitch.

I'm very sorry for all of you can hear my cat licking my hand on the microphone. I just realized how close that was to the microphone and that probably sounded really gross. She's, she's, she's, that was Portia. So, uh.

I don't know.

You can't hear that.

It was a sound.

Oh, so a gremlin pulls in at which one are I mad at?

I'm sorry, like there's so many things about familiars that are so gross. Like, she's a dog, like she cleans herself.

Yes, yes.

Oh

Like, do you transform to go to the bathroom or do you just want to go in the yard and make your master pick it up? Like.

What if he has to see how to like pick up your girlfriend's boob? That's asking much of a relationship.

That's a big ask. That is a big ask.

Go home!

HUUUU

All right, all right, so I also lost my place in my notes. I read the snitch Nope, yeah, no, it goes back to it. Is it like Dean's just like he wants to know which came first a dog or the girl now? Oh god

We got Drexel. We've met Drexel.

No, I was skipping that. And no, no, we're going to go. She's not interested in really getting into that. So the grump.

And neither are we. We are moving on. We are being adult and we are moving on.

I don't think the show wanted to dive into that either. I get the feeling they're like, we're just going to gloss over this. Just gloss over it. Keep going. Keep going.

But you can't, because like, you can't. I'm sorry. It is the elephant in the room.

Well, they shouldn't have made them bang. If they didn't want these questions asked, they shouldn't have had them fucked.

They shouldn't have, you knew this was gonna happen. And like, oh, the fanfic. I'm not even going there. Okay, so Drexel comes in and what does Drexel putter in it?

Ugh.

And his is gremlin and he is a yeah.

What year was the gremlin? You'd even said it was so cute. I like it.

And they basically there's not any really word on the street about any hexing, but there's a rumor that James has gone full ripper and they're afraid that it's going to expose all of them. And so James need to leave or kill himself. Those are his choices.

I mean, at least I give them the option to leave and they're just not going to kill him. But all right. So this is one of the things I was talking about earlier about the community. Right. So you have this unspoken underworld of witches and others that are like have enough power to come together and be like, there's someone here. They're going to expose us. Kill yourself for leave.

Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot.

crazy.

So back at James Howes, Dean has been researching and looking into some of Bobby's notes about spells for implanting images into someone's brain. So maybe that this didn't, to create a false memory. Yeah. Yeah. And he's drinking while he's researching this because obviously.

He's like, maybe this is possible. Maybe magic is magic. I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, I do hear that. He's like, he's just drinking a straight up cup of whiskey. Like this is just a straight up cup of whiskey.

Night.

We at least put an ice cube in it. I don't judge them.

It's fine if there's an ice cube in it.

Yeah, but just. No. All right. So Sam is like. Oh, it's probably not. You're right. And Sam's like, look, Ed's totally covering something up. He's saying there's he said that he's that there's nothing on this case, but there he he saw that their tech guy has this huge folder about James. That's not good. And and then he points out his how compliments Dean.

Cause you know it's not good whiskey.

on how he's been limiting his bestiality jokes. I think we were all impressed with that.

Yep, yep. That was very impressive. So applaud Dean for not being that disgusting.

for his restraint. Yeah. So they're like, all right, we got to go visit James in bed. And so Sam and Dean go visit. Chained to his bed and Sam and Dean are just going to walk on in chat. And he's like, he's like, yeah, I know my community wants me burned at the stake. And Sam's like, yeah, by the way, also, the police have a giant file on you. But it's all this locked room. He's like, well, James, like, why don't you break in? They're like, oh, yeah, we're breaking the police station. And I'm like, since when has that ever like?

So spread Eagle James.

And we're just going to go talk to you like.

You break into everything all the time. You have a plan to break into everything all the time. Why are you being a dick about it now?

Y 'all do that all the time. Like you break into everywhere.

Like you literally commit that robbery. Like you commit a felony like every five minutes.

B and E's all day. B and E's all day. So anyways, and he's like, oh, well, you can we can do it without even going there because I can do astral projection.

And Sam says, sure, we're gonna take us with you on your magic mine carpet ride. And I'm gonna take you on a magic mine carpet ride, Diana, as we astral project with friends. Diana, have you ever astral projected?

Mm -hmm.

I have not, however, I will share that I kind of tried a long time ago because I was a massive, massive art bell fan for many years when I was in my teens through early twenties. And they would talk about astral projection on his show sometimes, not just aliens. They talked about other things too. He would have people on that had done astral projection. So.

So what we're going to do today is I am going to give you instructions on how to astral project. And we're going to follow along and we're going to see if you can astral project yourself over here. So, cause we haven't seen each other in a while. Now I did want to share that this is from WikiHow, cause that's, you know, how we learn how to do things. And at least it in Aschat GBT. So.

everything.

Maybe next time I will. But so I just went to WikiHow and this article was co -authored by Tracy McKee and last fact -checked March 20th, 2024. So we know this is accurate, right? And I'm sharing the page with Diana so we can talk about...

Very recent. Very recent.

The first step, which was we generally do, we know we skip our first steps because we don't believe in following the rules here at Double Strap podcast. So the first step is preparing and that is to learn about actual projection. And I think she just demonstrated that she did right. She's been all this time with, with art bells. So Diana knows about it. However, I would like for you to describe the woman who on the WikiHow page, how is she projected? How is she preparing?

She's in bed in her nightie with one arm awkwardly behind her neck. I just tried to do that and it was kind of hard. Like one hand fully behind and one on her head and tilting back with her eyes closed. Just looks very...

Yeah, I think she's having a migraine and I don't think that's how you prepare for this.

She's trying to relieve her tension headache. That's what it is. She's rubbing the back of her neck with one hand and then she's like holding her head. She's got a tension headache. That's what it is. All right.

Yeah, yeah, I don't know what this has to do with that. So, so get a migraine, put on a teddy and get in your bed. And then we're supposed to start in the morning. So apparently, rather than practicing astral projection at night right before you go to sleep, start in the early morning hours when you're still feeling drowsy. Some say it's easier to reach necessary state of relaxation and heightened awareness around dawn.

Weird, I've never heard that.

Yeah, it is possible to say to astral travel at any time. So there's no hard and fast rules. It is a personal preference or simply astral traveling when we feel empowered to do it or when it's funny, always when it's funny. All right. So first off, we're going to create the right atmosphere. So you got to be relaxed. You should lie on your bed or your sofa. We can't do that because we're doing a podcast. So.

lie in your chair and...

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I don't know. I'm paying like a thousand dollars a week to try and figure out how to do that. So you're supposed to do something called Rilaks. I don't know what that is. So a good time to do this is when no one else is in and you make sure no one's going to walk into the room while you're in astral flight, because we don't we don't want that happening because they can draw dicks on your face. So right. Like, you don't know what they're going to do to you while you're asleep.

Relax.

I was gonna do something to your body. I'm like...

So they recommend that you draw the shades of curtains. So we've got curtains drawn behind you so check All right, we're good lie down relax. So we're gonna do this in the sitting lying down is the same thing and You're going to position yourself on your back in your chosen room. Not your not chosen room. It's gonna be a chosen room Clear your mind of distracting thoughts. Now once again, Diana stop thinking distracting thoughts Stop it

Check.

It'd be weird if I hadn't chosen the room.

Yep, yep, just stop it. I know I can hear them. All right, so take a deep breath and exhale. Relax, do it. Are you relaxed yet? Okay, focus your mind on your breath. Don't get carried away with thoughts of outside worries like you know, your mortgage or your vacation or what you're gonna pack. Have you filled out your Amazon card yet? Is it trash day? Don't think about those things like to sink yourself into relaxation.

can't do.

So relaxed.

Did you file your taxes yet? Don't think about that. Just remember those that actually happened a couple of days ago. And if you did not file your taxes, please stop listening to this podcast and go do that. Actually, don't use fine. Don't pay your taxes. All right. It can be helpful to use a quartz crystal to raise and speed up your vibrations as preparation. So take out your twat crystal if it's in there and just.

Go do that.

Just pop it out and hold on to that.

Just pop that out and you're going to gently hold that crystal on your third eye slightly above the center of your eyebrows with the closed eye and your breathe deeply. Feel those vibrations, feel your head clearing, envision golden, white, purple, any color like you like. We don't, we don't care here during this meditation and actual traveling. You can hold this crystal in your hand or you can put it on your chest or your abdomen or back up your twat.

You can put your crystal wherever you want. It will empower you. So crystal, put it somewhere. I never said that. So. All right, part two, moving the soul from your body. First, find out if you have a soul. I would like you to try and moonwalk.

and protect you.

That's it.

This is for you to have a soul. All right. So you've got it. We've got to get you back into a hypnotic state. All right. It's normally known as a hypnagogic state. I don't know if that is hypnagogic.

Hypnagogic. I like that word. This beat is this beat is this beat is Technotronic. Hypnagogic.

Let your mind and body hypnagogic. The S is for, and the H is for it. All right, so being at the edge of wakefulness and sleep, a hypnotic state is necessary for astral projection to occur, maybe for some losers. So reach this state using the following method. What the fuck? What?

Do I have to take off my skull?

I think you have to remove your skull and do something with your foot and your hand.

Focus on the body part until you can visualize it.

All right, so it says, okay, close your eyes. Let your mind wander to a part of your body, like your hand, your foot, or a single toe. Is it the one that went to market? Did it stay home? Pick that toe. Please don't pick your toes. All right, so you're gonna focus on the body part until you can visualize it perfectly, even with your eyes closed.

Oui, oui, oui.

Continue focusing until all other thoughts fall away. Just wiggle that hand, wiggle it, wiggle it. Take off that skull cap and just wiggle it. Use your mind to flex your body part, but do not physically move it. Use your mind. Visualize your toes curling and uncurling or your fingers clenching and unclenching until it seems as though they are physically moving.

Broaden your focus on the rest of your body. Move your legs, your arms, your head, using only your mind. Keep your focus steady until you're able to move your whole body and your mind alone. Enter into a state of vibration. Many report feeling vibrations would come in waves at different frequencies.

soul prepares to leave the body. Don't be afraid of the vibrations since the presence of fear might cause you to leave your meditative state instead succumb to the vibrations as your soul prepares to leave your body. Then you use your mind to move your soul from your body. Imagine in your mind the room in which you're lying. Move your body and your mind to stand up. Look around yourself. Damn, that floor is dirty.

Get up off the bed, walk across the room, turn around and look at your body on the bed. Did you put that's just creepy. Like stop Edwarding yourself. So your out of body experience will be successful if you feel as if you're gazing upon your body from across the room. So if you can't see yourself, you didn't do it right. Try again, suck those vibrations in.

That sounds creepy.

Also, I forgot to tell you not to do this while you were driving. Yeah, I'm sorry. Um, I hope, I hope nobody wrecked. So, all right. So you've got to go back to your body. Don't forget to do that. So your soul will always remain connected to your body with an invisible force, sometimes referred to as a silver cord. So you're going to let that force guide your soul back to your body.

That sounds scary.

I've heard about that. Okay.

Yeah, re -enter your body, move your fingers and your toes physically, not just in your mind this time, and let yourself regain consciousness.

Okay, so you're allowed to move them now? Okay. I can't say that I lost consciousness.

Okay, so I think let's try this one more time.

Okay. Oh, here we go.

All right, so so. They only I'm going to close the wiki how so you can't cheat, you can't read the instructions. I think you have mastered this, right? Are you a master?

Sure.

the 75th fifth degree of of the temple of Liz and all right so Diana you're going to absolutely project yourself to to right here like this is literally on top of like the cat chair so I want you to like to be like the cat like so like Lashat from the episode like Philip okay so so close your mind

gonna fall.

deep deep relaxation purple light or some other light vibration balls balls balls alright leave your body diana leave it leave

No. OK, one more time. And then I'm just going to like, you know, you know, I'm just going to this is going to be a bit right. So just do it so that I can like later, like we can put you here like through the power of magic or my Adobe Premiere Pro, whatever sponsored by Adobe Premiere Pro. Please give us money. OK. All right, Diana. Relax, relax.

Okay. Yeah. The internet.

Enter the astral plane. Go out through your third eye. Leave yourself. Come to San Antonio. It is Fiesta weekend. People are puking in the streets. Come feel the Nyosa. See the flower parade. Open your mind's eye. On my little cat tree.

Diana, put your titties away.

Go back to your body, Diana. Go back, go back.

Follow your silver cord. Wow! How was that trip on the astral plane? Yeah. Yeah. Did you enjoy Fiesta?

That was amazing. It was good to see it for a minute in person, kind of. Yeah. Duh. How do you not? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, who doesn't enjoy Fiesta? That is this week in San Antonio. Like so, which is actually means I have to figure out where I'm not going. Well, okay. So I'm glad we have all learned how to ask for a project. Thank you, Tracy McKee for those, those great instructions. Uh, I hope everybody did that safely. Remember, ask or project yourself with care and you only see, you know, what you put yourself up to. So just be careful about who you peep in on.

Yeah, there's creepy elements of astral projecting.

I don't, don't be peeping on me in the bathroom, it's rude.

vary.

So we're going to cut to what is the way that I wish actual projection went because it's hot and like it's just like three guys on a bed and like.

puts his hand on their shoulders, looks, eyes go solid white and looks up and they go, they go. Yeah. And they go to the police station and there is an entire murder board dedicated to James. That's not good. Not good. We got a murder board and they got photos of him. They've got a statement from Philippe. That dick. That dick.

Yep, that's pretty cool.

Nope, nope, we got a murder board.

And I like how like, like the whole like, like they're just in this police station and it's just like zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. Like this is how like they're traveling through it. I don't know. It's fun.

Mm -hmm.

It is super fun. And they go back and James is like, well, damn it, Porsche Ed's got a case against me as a renegade cop and because he's against me. He's a renegade cop. He's jealous, but he has proof. But he has proof from Felipe.

Ed's a little bitch.

It's the cat. It's always a goddamn cat. And

and she's poor James is yeah it's not good

No, he's not a nice witch at this point. He flings the boys.

He flings them. He says it's not safe for Portia. He wants her to leave and it's just all about.

Yeah, it's it's he's not handling this well, but also like.

I mean, that is pretty bad. You're being, like, framed for murders. That's fucked up.

You are being framed for murder by a corrupt police officer and -

And witches, because you know something else is going on too.

And the witches are doing things like there's a cat involved. You're fucking a dog like, you know, like she's did you give her her heartworm medicine yet? Like, does she get a tapeworm? Like, does. Does she have to get her anal glands?

And you feel like you're losing your mind and cats, cats a dick, cats a dick. You're fucking a dog. Yeah.

She had an A in her next card, it's important too.

Oh no, I didn't say that. But that does that go back to like whether you go to the bathroom as a human or a dog? I don't know.

I don't know what part of like, does that come too much for your relationship? Honey, I'm sorry, I can't find you attractive. I just expelled your anal glands, you know?

a lot.

I mean, I wouldn't do it to my own dogs anyways, and my dogs are just dogs. I'd pay somebody to do that, but still.

Okay, moving on. Oh my God. There's just too much in this. There's too much that goes into these relationships. All right. So the Winchester is a flying part. We go to my bar. All right. We're back in my safe place, my safe space.

which bar back at the bar and James is rolling in. He is pissed. He's going to come in and he's going to grab Felipe and throw him on top of the bar and ask why. And he tells everybody to leave and Felipe was like, Hey, my master made me. And James like, what the fuck? Spencer was my friend.

What the fuck you pussy. And so, but this is sort of something you learn like, so a master gives them a direct command and they have to do it.

Have to which seems like a huge trust once again goes back to a mastery thing Which is fucking weird and creates makes the dynamic grosser

You can't fuck them. You can't have sex with this. Why you can't have sex with them because the power dynamic is off. This is a very off power dynamic. Nobody likes it. We're all very uncomfortable. So.

Well, but then Felipe's next just breaks.

Well, and then we actually figure out that his Spencer says that he was spineless. So if you go and you look, it's not that his neck breaks. It's that he removed his spine. So his head flopped. Cause he no longer had a neck bone. That's even worse. That's so much worse.

This is even worse.

That's so gross and creepy and weird. Yeah. I don't like it. And then he's like, yeah, I'd like to accept the humbly accept the credit for making you think that you're a murderer. And James, like, what the fuck? I don't understand. And then he realized this has been all about Portia and that and basically the strangers like I endured you being her master, but you broke the code.

And your entitlement is too much because basically it is kind of like it's.

minute, what were his exact words? That they went Bella and Edward all over the shit. And they were he couldn't handle how Bella and Edward they were and I love that.

It's good. But it's true, too. They're just like, hey, like we can't let y 'all you were like putting your feelings all everywhere and you were just throwing it in my face. And it's just that's just and it's not right.

So.

Well, because he because he wanted Porsche as his familiar. So that's that's the reason it really doesn't fucking matter. I don't think Spencer Spencer be bitchy, but he wouldn't give a shit about the other part. The part that he's upset about is that he's a jealous fuckbag.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's just gross. It's all gross. But then the Wiccan from Detroit shows up.

with Sam and Spencer flings them while flings him. There's a lot of flinging. Need some anti -fling help.

They just get like flung everywhere. They need to learn something to stop getting flung. Anti -flung, maybe they can find that in the bunker. Some anti -flung.

Well, and I guess Spencer's got the ability to control people see. And so he makes both Sam and Dean see hell in their heads, which is not good. Yeah.

Well, I just basically find like their bad memories, which is like super easy to do with Winchester. So it's just like, whoa, shit, no. Like I can't believe he didn't go in there and be like, no, no, like I don't want to be in here. This is too dark even for me. Like.

Well, that's -

Right. He just goes in, he's like, Oh, this this looks fucked up here. Live there for a minute and just like puts him there. Well, but.

Yep, and they can also like he can shoot electricity at Spencer at like so like these are.

James, he's shooting, they're shooting stuff at each other and Porsche is attacking, but she gets thrown.

She's such a good girl though. She like runs in and she's just like, ah, and she's like, she attacks as a, and like, so you chose the dog for, I guess, like, I don't know. If I was fighting, like, would I want to be a Doberman? Okay. Dana's like, yes.

BAH!

And so we get Sam and Dean are able to get the handle on the spell bottle though that they have the witch killing spell bottle and they are able to throw it and it gets to Spencer and he smokes a lot and then it's a bloody explosion. I don't know. It's weird.

Turns into red smoke and flight so - oh no he's not there anymore. But Dean still has allergies.

He going. He does. And we cut and Sam and Ian are like, we could stay, you know, they're standing by a car with Portia and James and they're like, look, we could do you want us to stay and help? And James with Porsche is like, no, Ed's already built the case around me. It's going to make my life hell. The community wants to be fucking gone. I mean, I might as well just go somewhere and start over. I just I just need to move on and.

Yeah, I would want to stay there. These don't sound like a bunch of great people.

Yeah, fuck that. It does not seem like a welcoming place to be. And, uh...

Oh, you have to leave that bar. I mean, very sad to leave that bar.

Yeah, I know. Same. But Portia tells Sam that she'll miss him and Dean she might miss. Dean's like, I like dogs. And she's like, no, you really don't. And she turns into a dog and they drive.

And so, okay, so, but he's also not a cat person, right? So that's just he's only animals. I don't really like that. That's the side of a psychopath. But so, Portia's flips back to being a dog so she can be in the passenger seat. Is that so she can hang her head out the window?

I hope so. That's the scene we were missing, the credit scene we were missing.

Yes, I need to see when her tongue is like hanging out and like, like, yeah, she was just like, like, like slobber, like hitting the window and James is just like, Oh, Porsche. And then like, Oh, nevermind. Okay, so.

And the little jowls, when their jowls go...

Hmm. Their tongue hanging out. So hilarious. She's too fancy of a dog to do that. She's all prim and proper. Yeah. So now Sam and Dean are driving and Dean's like, maybe I was wrong. Not and I'm not talking about Spencer. He's like, look, you know, I should have remembered when when.

Sometimes you just gotta let loose.

Spencer showed us that vision. What it did remind me was that the only way we've gotten through all these things was hanging together. So I trust you, Sammy.

Yeah. And so it's too easy. This is all too important. And if I, if you're good, I'm with you a hundred percent. So we finally have, you know, the, we should do this together. Like, yeah, we're going to be on the same page. We're going to be in the same team. This is all good. It's all great. Right? Right. Sammy, right. Sammy.

Yay, synergy team.

And we're going to be honest with each other and trust each other. Trust and honesty. Sammy's who's coughing up blood and not in hiding it and hiding it.

No!

Noooo

just when you thought it was safe. For one second, you thought it was safe to watch Supernatural that the boys would get along and do something as a team, but no! Or maybe, we don't know. We don't know why Sam was coughing. All right, so do we have some things to talk about in the casting area?

Right.

Mm -mm.

We do. So our James Brampton was played by Christian Campbell. He was in he was Larry in the TV movie Clarence. He's been in episodes of Degrassi High, Seventh Heaven, CSI New York and Miami, Ghost Whisperer, Law and Order SVU, Elementary and more. He is a recurring character in nine episodes of All My Children.

He did the voice for a series called Max Seal and he was Richard in three episodes of True Detective.

rogue or to be the rogue vampire in Twilight New Moon.

Ed Stoltz was played by Serge Howd. He is a Canadian and does a lot of like Canadian shows that we would not have watched here at all. But he was in episodes of other episodes of a MacGyver. Are you afraid of the dark taken smallville fringe arrow hell on wheels I zombie series of unfortunate events.

He said some interesting film. He was Yogi Beer in the movie Stay Tuned. He was Bufray in The Jackal. I probably say it wrong. B -E -U -F -R -E -S in The Jackal, which is a film I love. He was Bishop Young in Get Shorty, Richard in 50 -50, which is the Joseph Gordon Levitt film. And he's actually done a lot of Hallmark movies as well. So.

Long career. Yeah, that's what we got.

Cool.

Good times, good times. So, what did you think?

Look, the plot holes were fucking big enough to drive a semi through.

to drive it in Paula through.

or Anna Gremlin at the same time. I can't deny that it was kind of a fun episode, though. Fucking dog. There's a pupper. There's fucking there's a kitty cat. There's a fun car. There's a cool ass witch bar. There's an interesting dynamic of witch cop. Like, I don't know, like as irritated as I was about like the stuff that just like didn't fucking make sense and was dumb and gross. It was still super enjoyable.

Mm -hmm.

Does that make sense? I don't know, it sounds terrible. But I feel like that's the, I don't know, that's how I felt about it.

No, I mean, I obviously I like all those things. I think, you know, part I get annoyed because it's an interesting world that they poke into. And then they just like leave. And I would have much preferred. And this is kind of I think we're in this point of supernatural where they're not really we're not running through lines of.

Yes.

Ensembles beyond, you know, the Winchesters and there's a few characters, you know, we've got Charlie. We have a few, few, you know, things, but we don't have a Bobby anymore. We don't have, you know, so.

I still feel it would have been better if they'd pulled from something in the past or continued to build on this world instead of having this be an astral projection into this kind of cool world that we just don't get to see anymore.

Yeah.

Standalone.

I mean, they could have easily done like three episodes in a row where each one wrapped, but it kind of carried over with these people. You know what I mean? Or this world a little bit, I think, in my opinion. Or but I totally agree. They kind of like just they they skimmed. Right with that, yeah, they just skimmed kind of into this world, which just kind of forced them to not fully fledge it out, but also kind of entice us and then leave us. Same. I want more.

James could have been a cop from another episode. Like there's so many, yeah.

and he left me wanting more.

But yeah, so now, that's what I got.

Yep, and we all have the ending where it's just like you give it, you give it, and then you take it away.

giveth and taketh awayeth every time.

Alright, anything else? Alright, cheers jerk.

Cheers, Bets.