Gaddafi meets Abdulganiyu Rufai Yakubu, a tech-preneur and civic technology activist as well as PhD researcher at Bayero University Kano in northern Nigeria. They talk about the importance of entrepreneurship and technology for development; the Nigerian diaspora in the Middle East; Nigeria's youth; the oligarchy in Nigeria's political economy, especially around land ownership; the history of colonisation of (northern) Nigeria; traditional institutions in modern politics; and the importance of adapting religion to local circumstances and needs.