Alan speaks with Coach Ron Kardashian on this week’s episode of Mindful You. Coach Ron tells us what ignited his burning desire to be on the path of mindfulness. During a near death experience Kardashian had an encounter with god which set in motion a deep relationship with spirituality. We are all spiritual people having an earthly experience. Ron and Alan discuss the way that meditation practice helps to strengthen your faith in god. We must accept that we do not know everything.

About The Guest:

An Executive Coach, Published Author, CEO, Humanitarian, and Ambassador of Peace, Coach Ron Kardashian stands out for his heart of gold and genuine leadership insights. Highly self-motivated and deeply organized, professional leaders and executives call him “Coach”. For the past 20 years, Mr. Kardashian has exhibited sound business judgment and leadership skills with a proven record of accomplishments that represent high standards, integrity, and results. Passionate about helping leaders transform their careers and businesses, Ron is highly sought after for his wisdom and success through leader cognitive transformation, spiritual fortitude, and behavioral change. Coach states, “When the brain is healthy, so will one’s life and career be.”

Le Confidant, Inc. is an executive consultancy and coaching company that has been awarded diplomatic honors and recognized as an authority in the executive leadership space. Based in Silicon Valley, Le Confidant, Inc. takes on new clients yearly. As the Founder and CEO, Coach Ron has over two decades of executive coaching experience and more than 12,000 hours of one-on-one sessions with different clients. With his unrivaled amassed wealth of experience, he leverages his technical knowledge, as well as, strategic and tactical insights to oversee consequences and helps provide the best solutions to benefit his clients. His company has helped people over 150 companies such as Apple, Intel, Neiman Marcus, LinkedIn, Tesla, Facebook, FOX, and Salesforce.

Certified in human performance, cognitive disciplines, and physiological excellence, Ron started his professional career as a National Strength and Conditioning Coach. He honed his skills working alongside professional NFL & NBA athletes. A highly respected specialist in behavioral transformation, career navigation, life solutions, cognitive discipline, and legacy decision making. Coach has a unique approach to mental, physical, and business development solutions that most advisors fail to address. Having coached top executives from Fortune 500 companies, governments, and international ministries, Ron’s strategy and coaching approach includes working from individuals’ strengths rather than liabilities-personal strengths. This unique approach bridges the divide of personal life goals with business goals while creating clarity, building confidence while maintaining mental and spiritual agility.

Keen on sharing and imparting his knowledge to others who are serious and willing to achieve growth and success, Ron is the author of his two bestselling books and a co-author of a third. Ron Kardashian’s 30 Second Solution is endorsed by the New York Times best-selling author Dr. Daniel Amen, a brilliant physician and psychiatrist widely regarded as one of the world’s foremost experts on the brain. Critically acclaimed for his role in people transformation, Ron has been awarded the LinkedIn Coaching “Profinder of the Year Award” and “The Ambassador of Peace to the Golden Rule Award” for his humanitarian work among leaders and communities. He has been featured in Forbes for his hit article How to build a billion-dollar rhythm in life. The 10 rhythms I learned from working with two billionaires, and is working on publishing his fourth and fifth books which are to be launched this year!

“If you put into practice Ron Kardashians 30 second solution it will help you develop new brain pathways that will enhance impulse control, focus, and forethought.” – Dr. Daniel Amen, New York Times Best seller, and Founder of the Amen Clinics.

Ron also runs a technology company that uses predictive analytics with best-of-breed emotional intelligence to discern the behavioral traits that accelerate and/or decelerate an individual or company’s success. With an absolute love for mankind, Ron is also involved in several humanitarian works and non-profit organizations that help him reach out and impact more people. His lifelong passion for increasing the value of human life is still on course as he is creating a coaching institute and university. His biggest achievement is being a loving husband and father to his two children.

About Alan:

Alan Carroll is an Educational Psychologist who specializes in Transpersonal Psychology. He founded Alan Carroll & Associates 30 years ago and before that, he was a Senior Sales Training Consultant for 10 years at Digital Equipment Corporation. He has dedicated his life in search of mindfulness tools that can be used by everyone (young and old) to transform their ability to speak at a professional level, as well as, to reduce the psychological suffering caused by the misidentification with our ego and reconnect to the vast transcendent dimension of consciousness that lies just on the other side of the thoughts we think and in between the words we speak.

Personal: https://www.facebook.com/alan.carroll.7359

Business: https://www.facebook.com/AlanCarrolltrains

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aca-mindful-you/

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Web Site: https://acamindfulyou.com/

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Our next guest on the mind for your podcast. He

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calls himself a coach. I met coach Ron few months back at a

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staples store out in the Silicon Valley. And he was helping me

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understand the computer in order to get it to create a label. And

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as we, as we chatted, all of a sudden there is a realization

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that I'm chatting to someone who is definitely walking on the

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mindfulness path. And not only is Ron walking on the

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mindfulness path, not only is Ron talking on the mindfulness

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path, Ron also is a teacher is a coach who has coaching other

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people to walk on that mindfulness path. And one of the

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gifts that Ron, that Ron has, is that he has been blessed with an

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with a realization, not just reading about mindfulness and

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meditation and spirituality, but an experience of mindfulness

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being touched by divine by divine energy. And then to be

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able to take that experience, that abstract metaphysical

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experience, and then be able to articulate it in a way that

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other people can understand and have greater clarity on how they

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too, can walk the mindfulness path. So is with joy in my

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heart. That I welcome coach Ron, to the mindful you, podcast.

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Coach, Ron, welcome to the mindful you podcast. It's

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guiding you on the podcast. And when I met you in Los Gatos,

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several months ago, there was a spark there was a spark between

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what you said and what I said. And what I want to be able to do

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was add more kindling to the spark to create a flame sir

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flame of light a flame of light only permeates the the

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individual experience of a person but also permeates the

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organizational structures that we have as humans, for example,

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the corporations and you had mentioned a little bit about the

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the spirituality in the corporate world, our the need

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for more of that spirituality in the corporate world. And I call

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that mindfulness spirituality. And before we go into the that

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particular path, I would like just to have our audience hear a

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little bit about your path about what ignited the spark in you,

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which now burns like a burning bush. A bright light, sir

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universe.

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Well, thank you again for having me.

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I'm honored to be here. The my history dates back all the way

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till I was 22 years old Alan, where I was heavy into the party

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scene, drug use, did jail time, I mean, anything. A young boy

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who has no real strong governances on his life could go

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I went, which I'm a big advocate of boundaries now in principles

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that that I didn't even know existed. I mean, we were just

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living life vicariously so much. So it costs me not one but three

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near death experiences. And remember, one evening, I had

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come down with the chicken pox in the third grade, and my fever

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at hit scarlet fever level, which for our listeners, that's

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that's 103 104. They say 104 You begin to fry up 105 And my

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mother at the time who was not an overly spiritual person, but

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was a devout Catholic. You know, I say that I'm a Catholic and

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recovery, you know, because religion never bode well for me

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at all. But that night, that night, she brought in the nuns,

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that's all she knew how to do because her little boy in the

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third grade, which was the love of her life was dying. Hang, and

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they didn't know how to stop it. I mean, at one point, Alan, my

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father could not lift me up under my arms because the

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chicken pox was so bad that it would skull me scalding burning

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my flesh if he tried to touch me. So they had to use a cold,

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crisp cotton sheet to help lift me up to get me into the baths.

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Where I would soak. I mean, at one point, she said, we had

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thought that maybe you had a form of leprosy. And I don't

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remember all the details of that. But I do remember just

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asking God to take my life. You bet. It was at that moment that

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the transition began. And you fast forward now, you know, till

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I'm 22, having gone up and down and being confused, no

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direction, but all but having this near death experience led

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to my second one, which was a fatal car accident, where I

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crossed over. And you know, how people say that they've seen the

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light, you know, I didn't just see the light I saw Jesus face

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to face. I mean, when people asked me to articulate what it

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was to look into the face of Jesus, and we have all these

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religions that have soured that name, I mean, in the Western

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culture, Jesus Christ is a cuss word. None of my Buddhist

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friends have Buddha as a cuss word, you know, just Jesus. And

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I thought, Man, the guy has been really given a bad rap. And

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actually, he just was the most warming loving entity of light

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that all of us are crying out for. And I saw him, and I've

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seen him twice since then. And so much so that it impacted me,

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right, I thought I should become a Catholic priest. Uh huh. And

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so, funny story was, I enroll in the priesthood. And two boys

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show up at this massive retreat. Long story short, the priest

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tells me all his problems out on one walk one morning, and

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actually deters me from becoming a priest. But you know, when you

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have encounters like this, and they're happening more and more

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often, the the spiritual realm is so powerful. And then fast

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forward into coaching companies, you know, you're you're talking

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to high level individuals who are actually having the same

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encounters, but they don't know how to articulate them. They're

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too afraid or embarrassed or pride or people are gonna think

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you're crazy. Or, you know, and not just the light, the demonic

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side, too. I mean, I hear people talking about, they saw black

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hatted figures standing in the hallway, repetitively over and

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over again. So this, this began to fascinate me. And I began a

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deep exhaustive study over the last 25 years, into the Word of

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God into the Holy Bible. And also, Hey, I gotta admit, I

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started at the East West bookstores, had some psychic

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readings in the beginning. I mean, when you're touched like

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that, you don't just say everything else is obsolete,

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your mind opens up to a whole plethora of knowledge seeking

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where you need to grab a hold of what happened. Because if you

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don't, then you really have no portal of destiny, which I call.

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In other words, you know, the trajectory now you should be on.

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And I encourage people always to seek but at the end of the day,

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Jesus is Lord in my heart, Allen lock, stock and barrel.

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Everything that I teach, and everything that I do comes from

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a spirit of love, which was the main difference. I was noticing

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amongst a lot of different ecumenical circles, if you will,

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that that behavioral trait of like how we met, you know, in

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fact, I think you need a little help with something that you

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were doing and right, what started the conversation? That's

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right. I said, Well, let me let me offer some, some kindness,

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which is something I think the world needs a lot of, and by the

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way, I'm still a work in progress. But that that began

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the journey right of, of deep diving. Now, I pivoted early on

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early on in my career, because I always had a call to be in

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health and fitness. So, you know, right around 22, after I

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got touched, I had the Bible in one hand, and then I had the

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strength and conditioning journals in the other hand, so I

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was completely perplexed on which direction of which path I

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should take. Power of mentorship, the power of coaches

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like you, Alan, I meet a woman who tells me, why can't you do

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both? And that began my spiritual journey of not

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becoming a priest, because God knows I wanted to be married.

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It's better to marry than to burn, and this boy was burning.

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And I said, you know, I think I can do both. And I did. My

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career started me off all the way went up to the NFL, or I

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started to coach and pro athletes got my license and

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strength and conditioning. And then what One of the, one of the

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NFL athletes asked me to help him with his money. And I didn't

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have any money. I mean, I had done well, but not not millions

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well, and it was just a very precious relationship. He was

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also a Christian brother. So we had this commonality, of course,

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pro sports are filled with a bunch of spiritual guys who have

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very little direction. And that's what started the business

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career. So I have a little little saying is I went all the

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way from the weight room to the boardroom, you know, because I

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found a niche, and that niche was Executive Council. Lee

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confidant is the name of my company, I became a confidant, a

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private confidant to some of the most powerful people in the

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world. And now here I am, 25 years later, living my dream,

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running my own companies speaking all over the world,

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authoring books, and the light is still with me. So I prayed

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never leaves.

Alan Carroll: 00:11:01

That's a wonderful, wonderful story.

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coach Ron, that's very, very illuminating is a word to

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describe it. It's like being touched by the light and allow

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the light to transmit through you. And in the Course of

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Miracles, which I think that you're familiar with, we might

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have mentioned, on in Los Gatos talk talks about the

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Marianne Williamson fact, we just met at a party and

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she asked me to endorse her for the presidency. I, I didn't know

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what to say, Alan, I was so honored. But yes, I in fact, I

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brought up her book, and she looked at me like, it's been 30

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years since right 20 a while since I've been a while

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I'm 70 was the 70s. I think it first first came

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out, sir, almost 50 years. And one of the things is that you

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remind me of is God cannot do for you what God cannot do

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through you. And to allow yourself to have the audacity to

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claim to be a spokesperson for the Lord, a spokesperson for my

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office, a spokesperson for the Holy Spirit. And to be able to

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have that, that that clear. It's not it's not Yes. It's not

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faking it. It's clear experiential in my body kind of

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in this moment, and to be able to illuminate the dark, sir. And

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we talked about corporations and corporate folks have a

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tremendous opportunity to be able to use the organization's

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to disseminate. I'll call it the light, why they why they're

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doing the business. And I'm wondering, yes, what you do to

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uncork that bottle of spirituality into the corporate

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boardrooms?

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Well, it's a very powerful question. I think deep

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within that we have to remember these are natural people living

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supernatural lives. I always tell people that I said, you

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know, you live a very supernatural life, you just

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don't realize it yet. I said, the mere fact that you exist out

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of all the sperm that went into that egg, the millions that had

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the opportunity to penetrate here you are with a template and

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that template starts with a DNA strand. I said Make no mistake

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about it. There's no mistaking you even to the aborted to the

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child who was almost aborted, you know, there's no mistake

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because you you feel like you were born out of wedlock.

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There's no mistake. And I've learned this through the path of

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gods and unconditional love Alan, which is a vital force

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that mankind is looking for. Yet, here's the beautiful part

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about it. We don't need to have that mastered in order to give

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it we do have traces of it. We we give traces of it. We give

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traces of this unconditional love, which is Love is patient

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love is kind it's not jealous, angry, boastful, proud or rude.

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I mean, look, the template is set. You just got to read the

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manuscript. You know, First Corinthians 13 is very clear, on

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really what love is. And I had a major wake up call behaviorally

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around the spirit of arrogance, conceit, pride, which are all

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spiritual matters. These are behavioral traits, but man,

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they're wit down into the gut or the soul of man, which the soul

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as you know, Alan is mind will and emotions, mind will and

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emotions is so a lot of spiritual people get this

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confused. Then again, my manuscript is you know, we swear

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to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, lock,

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stock and barrel, that Bible and it's very clear about it the

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soul is different than the spirit and the spirit is

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different than the body. We I like to say we are spiritual

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people having an earthly experience not earthly people

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having spiritual experiences.

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Yes, sir, let that sink

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in for a second. You know, I'm a spiritual being on

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the earth having an earthly experience, how do I facilitate

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that? And the business side is very, very important because the

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higher of a spiritual person you are, the more of a mandate, you

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have to bring resources into the earth. I believe that I'm

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convinced of it. I think wealth has been misappropriated in the

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hands of corrupt people. And here are the sweet, gentle

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people like yourself, who are doing well for yourself. But we

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have the ability to do even better, Alan, we have the

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ability to reach new economical spheres that we never dreamed

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up. And it's important that we remind ourselves of these. When

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I begin to talk like this, I attract the business sector

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because their language is all about renumeration. That how can

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we be compensated? How can we get an ROI? And when they pull

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me in to do that? I recenter them and realign them to say,

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talk to me about what the real power is behind what you're

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trying to do. And when you peel back those layers, you see more

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good than bad. At least I do. I don't see I don't see I don't

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see the darkness too much anymore. And that's because

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light, light does attract light, light does attract darkness as

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well. But when you're really an advocate of championing light,

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you will reciprocate, we call it the law of reciprocity, right?

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The the law of sowing and reaping. We you know, we see

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this through the whole movement of the secret, they actually

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took Galatians four, and they opened it up to a level I tell

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the church world don't Don't Don't Don't get upset at these

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people don't don't they took what God created and actually

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did something with it. And this is where my boost comes in to

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say get off your spiritual high horse. And let's get to work.

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Let's put the spiritual power to use. And that's what I'm doing

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day to day.

Alan Carroll: 00:17:04

As you go on,

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if that makes sense. Yeah,

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yes. But as you were, as you were talking, I

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think of a word called the Holy Spirit. Answer I think of the

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Apostles Creed. I think the I believe in the Holy Spirit. I

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believe in the goodness of sin. I find that beautiful. When you

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start talking about I believe in the Holy Spirit, you're saying

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there's something beyond the physical. And when you say I

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believe in the forgiveness of sin, to me, that's a pathway to

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the Holy Spirit. And the pathway. Spirit is the doorway

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to salvation. And yes, sir, my question that I'm formulating

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is, my background is transpersonal psychology. And

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psychology focuses on the egoic being the egoic identity, which

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is, I would say source of suffering, and transform that

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into the being identity, which would be no resistance to what

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is. And when you get to no resistance to what is then then

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that's love. Love is unconditional space, there's no

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resistance to what you have to say. And if I have resistance,

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it stirs up the thoughts. And when the thoughts get stirred

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up, it parallels my identity. And so how do you sail through

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that, that Island have an egoic identity? And have people

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realize that they're not that they're much more the Holy

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Spirit, which is the mindfulness and being this, of the of the

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God God being? I'm not sure even how to say it. But how do you?

Alan Carroll: 00:18:56

How do you get that wrath from one place to the other?

Unknown: 00:19:01

Very, very powerful question and beautiful of

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background with you, Alan, I didn't know that. That's those

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words you're using about identification of suffering and

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the component to parallel unconditional love is a very,

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very powerful Christian aptitude, which most people do

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not understand. And that is Christ. Yet while we were yet

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sinners, corrupt, yet died for us, and that he became the

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appropriation of sin, to appropriate justification for a

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man and woman who knew him not. Yet before we even knew him, he

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loved us and gave His life for us as a ransom. And when you hit

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then you use the word redeemed, to redeem us into redemption is

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actually a financial term, right? We it means read means

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before deemed to buy back so someone had to buy us back. This

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is what I didn't catch early on in those Press. 10 years it was

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always religion is about conformity. If you don't do this

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boy, you're going to hell. And I mean, it was horrible, horrible.

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Who would ever want to serve God with this condemnation, spirit

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binding? So in answer to your question, the bridge is

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understanding when you hear him knocking, hard, not your heart.

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And that is the pivotal moment Allen, where we either induce

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pride and say, No, it's really not him, or we humble ourselves

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to the probability of God calling. I always tell great and

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powerful leaders that are seeking the face of God. Well,

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Ron, you hear from God, it's easy for you. It's not that it's

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easy. It's developed. It's It's learning to yield to the Holy

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Spirit. It's like, what was God's voice? What was Ron's

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voice, and in that yielding is a constant state of humility,

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which is the per the correct understanding of what humility

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is, it's not genuflecting before an altar and making the sound

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beautiful that you do that, or, you know, hands together and we

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bow and martial arts are here. You know, we we use the word

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peace, peace, be you know, Namaste, Namaste. And those are

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elements of humility. But the real root of Humility is saying,

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I don't know everything. And there could be something more.

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And it's right at that moment. When you hear him knocking, you

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hear broadcasts like this, he's knocking. He's calling us back

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to say, just accept, don't resist. And Alan, I think it's

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in that moment, that the human psyche, then begins to move into

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a new space of neurological adaptation. That is a fancy way

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of saying your brain begins to fire do tu Tu, Tu, Tu, tu tu

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synaptic connections that you even, you know, we got 100

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billion of these things. I wrote it about it in my book. So where

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are they retiring and rewiring, you know, they're either

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rewiring to more labor and hustle, which by the way, I hate

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that word hustle. Or it's rewiring to more of a

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conscientiousness, higher state of consciousness to where we are

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more in a state of bliss, calm. And as the Holy Spirit would

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say, Peace, internal peace, if that makes sense. Oh, yeah,

Unknown: 00:22:33

transition sum that up is humility. I believe. That's my

Unknown: 00:22:38

belief. Yeah,

Alan Carroll: 00:22:41

the I find that in the in, and my knowledge of the

Alan Carroll: 00:22:50

Bible is this, your knowledge is like that. So but I know a

Alan Carroll: 00:22:54

little I know a little because it's a boy scout, you have to

Alan Carroll: 00:22:58

get the Purple Heart. And the Purple Heart. Christian merit is

Alan Carroll: 00:23:02

a Christian metal. And part of the Purple Heart was to memorize

Alan Carroll: 00:23:07

some of the key passages from the Bible. And you do it, you

Alan Carroll: 00:23:11

know, yeah. However, I went back. And I started to look at

Alan Carroll: 00:23:16

those passages. Here I am in my 70s. And beautiful, and the last

Alan Carroll: 00:23:23

night 23rd song. Yes, me, makes me to lie down in green

Alan Carroll: 00:23:31

pastures. leadeth me beside the still waters. And I said, Okay,

Alan Carroll: 00:23:37

what does that mean? I went into the method, it has to do with

Alan Carroll: 00:23:39

coming to rest, and allowing the Lord God to take care of you.

Alan Carroll: 00:23:44

And for me, that means surrender. And when you talk

Alan Carroll: 00:23:48

about humility, you talk about the ego, it talks about the ego.

Alan Carroll: 00:23:52

What the ego does not do is surrender. Yes, the ego is

Alan Carroll: 00:23:56

defending its point of view, not surrendering its point of view.

Alan Carroll: 00:23:59

And for me to surrender, my point of view would be a

Alan Carroll: 00:24:03

describe it as in A Course of Miracles, it talks about if I,

Alan Carroll: 00:24:08

why can't I surrender my point of view, and they say it entails

Alan Carroll: 00:24:14

an unfair sacrifice of my righteous wrath. And somehow, I

Alan Carroll: 00:24:21

believe, and I believe you believe it, that we have to get

Alan Carroll: 00:24:24

beyond the ego, which is self centered, to get to the being or

Alan Carroll: 00:24:28

the Holy Spirit or the mindfulness state of

Alan Carroll: 00:24:30

consciousness, which is, which is centered on the we're all

Alan Carroll: 00:24:35

together. I am. I am that love that you're talking about? Yes.

Alan Carroll: 00:24:41

Yes, very

Unknown: 00:24:42

good point. In fact, the Bible alludes to that, that

Unknown: 00:24:44

we're all one body. And so it's important for us to recognize

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that there's something bigger going on here. So how I like to

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have these discussions now in this postmodern world era is

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like, okay, let's just put all the swords on the table, and

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just really talk about what To the ultimate need here. I mean,

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me being a cognitive behavioral expert. You know, Mike Mike, one

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of my tech companies helps people understand cognitive,

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emotional intelligence. So we're all governed by the same 24

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behavioral traits, conscientiousness, ambition,

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endurance, self confidence, composure, etc, etc. But at the

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end of the day, we all have families, we all bleed crimson,

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we all cry, we all have emotions, we all want to be

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loved. And I find that in business, probably the number

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one request I get is, How do I stay at peace? I'm believing for

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millions of dollars on my bottom line, My guts are at a mess, My

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blood pressure's high, my cholesterol is high, the body is

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sending the signals. And so when I say put all the swords on the

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table, let's not talk dogma, as much as we talk, how do we

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handle life's vicissitudes? How do we better ourselves to help

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you be better? How can I better me so I can obviously help you.

Unknown: 00:26:12

And it may not be through counsel or coaching or

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therapists or people like in our trade, but having a calm

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disposition, knowing that the power of God Almighty and the

Unknown: 00:26:25

integrity of his word can support me when I have no way

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out, is unbelievably phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Alan, if and we

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do this in business, we call them covenant agreements, we

Unknown: 00:26:40

signed contracts. Well, I always joke with my Jewish friends. I

Unknown: 00:26:44

had a great Jewish attorney for many years. And I you know, when

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we met, you know, I told him, You believe in Jehovah, he goes,

Unknown: 00:26:50

Oh, yeah, we've served them for years. He goes, he's a wealthy

Unknown: 00:26:52

God. That's why every Jew that I meet as wealthy, it's

Unknown: 00:26:56

unbelievable. Why, you know, when you really talk to them, a

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lot of them have dogma, but there's another side that they

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don't even, it's just part of their DNA. They say, Well, if

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it's in red, it's what he said, you know, they kind of they kind

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of have this little chip, like, wait a minute, what do you mean?

Unknown: 00:27:12

Well, he said, God's god of integrity, they put it down to

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66 books, you wrote it down New Testament is the the new

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contract, and I go, wow, it's a contract. And, you know, I like

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to do my Italian voice. You know, I think God made me an

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offer, I couldn't refuse. You know, when he came to me, he

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goes, I'll put it in black and white. I'll write it down lock,

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stock and barrel. And for a guy like me, who didn't grow up with

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those, like a governor, you got to have a governor in your life,

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you've got to have a series of instruments around you. Because

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if you don't, you'll be easily persuaded, you know, move. So So

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I took the Bible as a instrument, and a contract. And

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I said, Well, if you put it in black and white, I'm looking to

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be a man of integrity. I never had that. Just still working on

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it. I want to be a man of my word. And I found that God is

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the God of the word. He is the Word made flesh, man, you cannot

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separate him. So when you start living your life from a place of

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someone's genuinely got my back, despite how I'm treated, despite

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how I treat others, just let me say this first, despite my

Unknown: 00:28:28

behaviors or my sins, it's unconditional. It's at that

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point, you are automatically humbled. It's overwhelming. You

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literally have nothing else to say, but praise the Lord. Thank

Unknown: 00:28:44

You, Lord. It's just an automatic. If that piece doesn't

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drop 12 inches from the head to your heart, it stays in

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information, it does not become revelation. And Revelation is

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the key Alan, to manifestation. We all know it's true. Because

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we didn't know the law of reciprocity until we had a

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revelation of it. You got to take the cash out of your

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pocket, go give it to someone else. And watch it reciprocate.

Unknown: 00:29:11

Coming back to you. Theory only takes you so far. application.

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Application is the principle of wisdom, the application of

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knowledge. Proverbs four is wisdom at its highest level. And

Unknown: 00:29:26

as you begin to slowly apply, just the right thinking. Ie I'm

Unknown: 00:29:33

open to this. All right, Lord, speak to him speak to me like he

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spoke to Ron, speak to me like he spoke to Alan. It begins this

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new neurological adaptation, where he's able to speak and

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boy, he doesn't.

Alan Carroll: 00:29:51

You talked about practice, and the need to

Alan Carroll: 00:29:55

reinforce and what I like to do before we complete today His

Alan Carroll: 00:30:00

podcast is I'd like you to imagine the audience is

Alan Carroll: 00:30:03

listening. And what is a practice that they could do on a

Alan Carroll: 00:30:08

daily basis, let's say five minutes, because that's part of

Alan Carroll: 00:30:11

the problem with practices. Well, it takes you two hours,

Alan Carroll: 00:30:14

knowing ain't gonna happen. But for five minutes just to just to

Alan Carroll: 00:30:18

plant a seed, and see if they can cultivate that seed over

Alan Carroll: 00:30:22

time that is sustainable. But what would you suggest that they

Alan Carroll: 00:30:26

do in order to achieve that, that letting go state of humble

Alan Carroll: 00:30:32

and also faith, it's the faith that the Lord will take care of

Alan Carroll: 00:30:37

us?

Unknown: 00:30:38

This right. That's a very, very powerful question. 30

Unknown: 00:30:42

years in practice, out of my own personal stash, that I'm doing

Unknown: 00:30:49

now, and I wish someone would have told me this early on. It's

Unknown: 00:30:53

found in Joshua one nine, it's very clear, it's in black and

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whites the integrity of his word, he said, If which the word

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if is is a preposition, it means on the condition that so this is

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strictly a measure of the human will, things that we can do. If

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you meditate on my word, night and day, you will be prosperous

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in all you do. If you meditate on my word, night, and day, you

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will be prosperous and all you do. That word all really got me

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right between the eye because I said, Well, God, you said all he

Unknown: 00:31:33

said I sure did. And Alan for the last couple of years, not

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even, not even in the last 10 Maybe in the last five. I never

Unknown: 00:31:42

put meditation at the top of my list. But man, I'm walking my 13

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year old little boy through it now. I said, Come on, baby.

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Let's bow our head and find one scripture in the Bible. This is

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a time tested book. This is not coach Ron and we got a lot of

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books, but my books aren't nearly as good as the main book.

Unknown: 00:32:04

Just go to the main book. And I always recommend starting

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Proverbs. Proverbs is the wisdom of dealing with business, or

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other people and then Psalms like you were reading from Psalm

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23. Allen is about dealing with ourselves, calming ourselves,

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and find one of them. For instance, my personal stash

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right now is Ephesians. One, you're gonna love this one night

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and day, my little 13 year old hasn't memorized. I says, Father

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of the Lord Jesus Christ. So it's acknowledging God, right,

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you got the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. So it's acknowledging

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God, Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, Father of glory, given

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to me the spirit of wisdom, and revelation in the knowledge of

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you very key, so that the eyes of my heart are flooded with

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light, that I would come to know the hope of your calling,

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please. And we go to sleep. We wake up in the morning, Father

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of glory, give me the spirit of wisdom and revelation and the

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knowledge of you so that the eyes of my heart are flooded

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with light helped me to be a blessing to all my clients

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today, my family, my children, give me strength where I'm weak.

Unknown: 00:33:12

And you know, man, I'm telling you, I have had two more

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encounters with them. Two more, or I saw him face to face. And

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when I put up on YouTube, says Kardashian has encountered with

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Christ I mean, man, this is, this is, this is a love message

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where he is he, you know, Alan, all throughout history all the

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way back to the Garden of Eden. God has always taken a man or a

Unknown: 00:33:38

woman to work his method. I don't know why he does this on

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he could he could appear to the whole world all at once. Why

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does he take frail little flawed men like us? I'll say myself,

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because I'm such a work in progress. And why does he take

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imperfect people in work is perfect plan. And for the life

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of me, I still don't know. But I'm constantly humbled, like you

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said, just take it wrong, and just just be humble about it and

Unknown: 00:34:07

just keep going. I think that's the rub. And when we meditate,

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it keeps us in balance, keeps us in good balance.

Alan Carroll: 00:34:16

I find that the meditation is one of the sayings

Alan Carroll: 00:34:20

that you have to go in to get out. If you want to escape from

Alan Carroll: 00:34:25

that prison of sin, we'll call it sin, that prison of

Alan Carroll: 00:34:28

suffering. It's going inside and allowing that calmness through

Alan Carroll: 00:34:34

meditation to happen. So it begins it begins you begins to

Alan Carroll: 00:34:37

create mental stability, emotional stability. So when the

Alan Carroll: 00:34:42

events happen in the outer world, you don't react anymore,

Alan Carroll: 00:34:45

you're able to take a pause, take a breath. Can I keep myself

Alan Carroll: 00:34:51

relaxed and still operating the levers? What's going on in order

Alan Carroll: 00:34:55

to produce the result? Or am I or am I agitated and defending

Alan Carroll: 00:34:58

my point of view and use Do that. And then after that, well

Alan Carroll: 00:35:01

your skill is going to be farm sailing. So I'm, I'm excited to

Alan Carroll: 00:35:06

hear that you talk about meditation so much. So coach

Alan Carroll: 00:35:09

Ron, I want to, I want to just, you know, thank you and give you

Alan Carroll: 00:35:13

a chance to say anything else you'd like to say, especially

Alan Carroll: 00:35:16

how we can contact you, and what's the title of the book.

Alan Carroll: 00:35:19

And also, we'll all your contact information will be in the show

Alan Carroll: 00:35:24

notes. So all that information you sent me.

Unknown: 00:35:28

Great. Well, thank you. I'd be honored to assist in any

Unknown: 00:35:32

of your listeners, whatever you need. We have a beautiful

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practice here. And in Los in Silicon Valley, Los Gatos, we

Unknown: 00:35:38

met but we're right here in Silicon Valley, right down the

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street from Facebook, and Twitter and Instagram and all

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the biggest companies in the world. It's such an honor to

Unknown: 00:35:46

live here. But I just in closing notes, I want to make a comment

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about the sign that you have above your head here. My right

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probably your left, the power of the pause, which Alan I really

Unknown: 00:35:57

commend you for saying that fact I write about it in my book, Dr.

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Daniel Amon, of course, the the famous psychologist who wrote

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Change Your Brain, Change Your body. He endorsed my book and

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did the entire forward. He said something very powerful,

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alluding to the pause. And he said, if you put into practice

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coach Ron's book to help you develop new brain pathways that

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will enhance impulse control, focus and forethought. And I was

Unknown: 00:36:25

so honored that you had this PhD, who would actually

Unknown: 00:36:29

authenticate my thesis in 30 seconds. And to your point,

Unknown: 00:36:35

that's all it takes to pause to respond before you react. And I

Unknown: 00:36:42

talk about in the book How, right here in my neighborhood, a

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gentleman decided to react to incoming traffic and not wait.

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And Alan he killed a little girl right down the street from where

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we were on impact. Because he did not hit his own internal

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pause button and her him and her daddy were crossing the street

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going to school and he killed the little girl. That man in

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1/32 decision has three, let me repeat 330 year life sentences

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that all could have been avoided if we just had the tools.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:24

Thank you, coach Ron, you're an inspiration.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:27

You're a gift to the world. And thank you for all that you do to

Alan Carroll: 00:37:30

reduce the suffering of we all feel and to bring us up and to

Alan Carroll: 00:37:34

allow us to have that experience of mindfulness and be closer to

Alan Carroll: 00:37:39

the Lord.

Unknown: 00:37:41

Thank you, sir.

Alan Carroll: 00:37:42

And you as well. Thank you. God bless you, Alan.