HLTH21 – Mike McNamera from Impact Health
Episode 20520th October 2021 • This Week Health: News • This Week Health
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Today in.

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Health it interviews from the health conference in Boston

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today, Mike McNamara on how impact health is making a safe

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space for us to collaborate.

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My name is bill Russell.

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I'm a former CIO for a 16 hospital system and creator of this week and

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health it a channel dedicated to keeping health it staff current and engaged.

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Just a quick reminder, I'm going to be dropping interviews

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over the next couple of days.

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And into next week from the floor of the health conference.

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All right.

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We have another conversation from the health conference health 2021.

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And today we are with, uh, Mike McNamara.

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The, are you the president and CEO of impact health?

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Sure, sure.

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I run things that impact health and I'm thanks for coming on the show.

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Absolutely.

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I, uh, I commented this morning on the show that the, the process, one of the

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first things you're you're faced with as you come to this conference, The process

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for making sure everybody is safe and we're all vaccinated, but they also put

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in the, the option for not often, but they put it in that process for testing.

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And your company is handling all that testing for the conference.

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Talk about, correct?

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Sure.

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So we actually, uh, from an intake situation, enterprise software solution,

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uh, for this type of program, we use clear we've partnered with them for.

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Many many programs we helped open up Vegas.

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MGM is a big client for both of us.

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Uh, the conventions system, uh, out of Vegas, even the state of Nevada.

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So it's, uh, it's a program we're quite comfortable doing.

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We can take it to large scale like this five, 10,000 people and put

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them through a process of testing.

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Uh, essentially clear would give you the green pass after you've had.

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Uh, there's so many platforms now for COVID testing, uh, to make an

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environment safe and to make this bubble the way it needs to be.

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Uh, today we're using an antigen test.

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Then we back it up with a confirmatory on essentially a PCR

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test that is portable out of the lab out of a high complexity lab.

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That's our confirmatory, uh, that takes 30 minutes.

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So if you walk in here, The test itself takes a less than 20 minutes.

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By the time we put you onto the app, the clear app and get you

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all connected in that manner.

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Some people actually get a test prior to coming here and that can

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go onto the clear app and they can get, uh, entrance that way.

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Or they get tested by our, our clinicians.

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Uh, we had 50 clinicians here yesterday.

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Got about 40 here today.

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50 on a Sunday tested 2,500 people.

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That's a normal ramp for us.

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Uh, it's not unusual for us to do a thousand, 2000 walk-ups

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or drive-throughs 14 states.

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I mean, COVID has done certain things to certain companies.

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We're one of the companies that's exploded and we went from a 600 folks to over

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20,000 healthcare professionals that work W2 for impact health on a nationwide.

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And, uh, it's been incredible and conferences like this.

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We love them.

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Um,

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so conference, as I'm thinking through this conferences

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companies, uh, like MTM in the entertainment business, but also large

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scale companies that are now sort of grappling with this, this balance of, of

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testing on an ongoing basis and vaccines.

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Well, yeah.

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Today's date, uh, October 18th, correct?

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Right.

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So we're in the middle of a, what's the mandate going to be from our federal

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government when it comes to, uh, workers, uh, and companies with over a hundred

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employees, what are we going to do?

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How are we going to get them back to work?

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So, yes, I work with the largest companies in the country, uh, companies that have

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supply chain issues that need to get back, uh, working and getting people to.

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Uh, the microns of the world, um, premise is a client of ours and they have 50, 70

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large scale, massive companies, the J and J's of the world Smucker's of the world.

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Right?

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So all those companies have got to get their people back in,

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and that's what we like to do.

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And it's for COVID vaccine.

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It's for COVID testing, it's getting home tests in the hands of

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the employees on a regular basis.

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It's observing that it's collecting that data, uh, so that we can communicate

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with the employer, uh, about their employees, uh, which they have to

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sign consent, to be able, uh, for us all, to communicate in that manner.

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We're not sharing their information with anybody we're just performing that

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service so that the employer knows yes.

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Uh, that person has been vaccinated or yes, that person has had a

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positive or a negative test so that, uh, work can go on and.

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You know, it's interesting in Massachusetts and I know you're

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not a technology guy per se, but when I got here, a little thing popped up

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on my phone that said, Hey, would you like to know if you've come in contact

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with people who have COVID it's like in Massachusetts, they've set this, or at

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least in Boston, they've set this up.

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And I think part of that has to be somebody reporting, you

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know, positive tests is that.

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And we just tested all these people in Boston, you would say, Hey, here,

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here's the positive tasks in Boston would say, you know, these people, these

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phones have come in contact with this,

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right?

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So we're state to state on this and we report to CDC.

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We have to report to CDC and on these things.

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And as an example, in a conference like this, with people who are

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double vaccinated, and that's part of the opportunity to be able to

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come in here, uh, it's a very low.

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But when we do stop someone from coming in here, uh it's because they're

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positive and then confirm positive.

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And at that person would be able to enter into a location like this

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and that, that 10 people they meet.

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And then 10 people meet the people who met them.

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And you understand the math when it comes to this.

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So protecting the bubbles, important, communicating to the state and federal

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government, it's part of what we have to do from a regulatory standpoint, the

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licensure that we have to go through.

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UAS that have changed in the last weeks and months, you have to be updated

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in every state for reporting for, uh, permitting it's it's, uh, the logistics

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of this business are just staggering.

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It is, but it's part of what gives people that comfort that we're doing,

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what we should do to stem the tide,

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the false positives.

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Do you worry about false positives or do you have.

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Confirming test.

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So the sensitivity, you know, I don't want to bore anybody

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with the math, but you know, the sensitivity is such that you're going

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to end up every a hundred people.

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You're going to end up with so many people that you've got a false positive.

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And the great thing about having the other S uh, science, uh, platforms that

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we have, their sensitivity goes up more expensive, a little longer time for.

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Uh, you know, to have that test process, but when you get the number of false

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positives and then can confirm that with one of these high quality tests, uh, you

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can feel very, very safe at that point.

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So

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are you able to give any numbers on that?

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Like, you know, I mean, because everybody, everyone who's vaccinated right.

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Coming up here.

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That's I assume, felt healthy coming up here.

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Cause you have to fill out the right th the form that says, Hey, I feel

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healthy and whatever, even to get on a plane, you had to fill that out.

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Um, so I would imagine, you know, you'd have to have to have a breakthrough case.

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It would have to be a special case for someone to be positive here.

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Yeah.

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I would say that in these environments that we control and people have to

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enter the workers, uh, you know, all the way to the Teamsters who organized,

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you know, uh, the, the 400 boosts here.

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And, uh, everybody works at the conference center and the convention

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centers and the surrounding hotels.

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You know, we, we feel as though we can protect folks.

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We did that for, uh, for the previous administration.

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They were the only ones straddling for, uh, the summer and into the fall of 2020.

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And I recall we did over a hundred events for them and.

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That we know of, there was no super spreader event at any of those.

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A hundred plus events.

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Uh, Tulsa was a little, um, out of control.

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I didn't, I did not have control feature there.

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I only protected around, uh, the president, uh, who came to speak

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at that rally, uh, that area I know is, was safe and protected.

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And then the only place that we weren't allowed to in the country to test was the.

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So the white house had its own medical staff.

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So when Amy Coney Barrett was nominated for the Supreme court, we were not

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allowed on the white house grounds.

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That is the only place I know of in that previous administration, that a

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super spreader event actually happened and it can happen easily, but you got

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to have the right protocols in place.

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That was the white house medical involved.

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Um, you know, we were, we were testing other places for other events around that.

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That we weren't at the rose garden.

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And I think that's the only one that I know of where there was a superstar event

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during all of Trump's, um, campaigning and his previous administration.

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So, so I'm curious, I mean, is this, this is your core business.

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What does your business look like?

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Moving out?

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I mean, will this, or do we see this pretty strong next

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year as well?

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You know, age doesn't mean anything it's it's, you know, how

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you feel, how you act, how you.

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And, uh, I I'm supposed to be in my retirement years and you know, this

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could have, you know, could have happened when I was 45 and not the age I am.

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But

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so this really has led to a

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significant uptake in Dubai since it has.

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I mean, it's, I, it's not, it's not calculable, right.

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That the growth is, is, is staggering.

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Uh, you know, it's, it's.

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Bigger than a Facebook, right.

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It's just been kind of crazy.

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So, but in terms of what's next, I mean, rapid deployment of

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healthcare services at scale, that's the mantra and impact health.

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We can go anywhere.

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We've got great, got hundreds of people who are qualified.

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We can stand up a group in a matter of hours of FEMA.

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We have a contract with.

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They give us 72 hours, we're ready in 48 hours to go to any emergency

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in our country or in any of the us, uh, properties, uh, around the world.

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And it's, it's daunting and it's going to change.

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I can tell you that impact health has been nothing but a change

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company, uh, and have to adapt.

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I mean, when we had the dip in.

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And then the scale up for the Delta variant.

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So as someone who wants to build value and have my employees, uh, on a long-term

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basis, so that, uh, you know, we're, we're creating a good environment

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to work and to grow and prosper.

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And we've now turning our business into a staffing business, a staffing

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business with 20,000 dedicated folks.

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Who've got COVID.

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Nationwide.

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Uh, in an example in Florida, I've had over 1500 people working for

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me, just in the state of Florida in South Carolina last month, 63,000

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days of employment for nurses based on the work we're doing in one state.

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So I think I'm a staffing company of rapidly deployed healthcare services.

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It's

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Thank you very much for, for all the work that you guys did.

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Thank you.

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Thanks

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for the time.

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Check back for Morris.

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