Have you ever decided not to give someone feedback because you thought they would become defensive? Or not told someone about an opportunity because you assumed they were already too busy? Or avoided a difficult conversation because you didn't want to upset the other person?
It can feel considerate.
It can even feel like good leadership.
But what if, without realizing it, you're actually taking away that person's ability to choose for themselves?
As leaders, we sometimes make decisions for other capable adults based on assumptions about what they can or cannot handle.
We tell ourselves we're protecting them.
But in doing so, we may be taking away their agency, information, learning, and opportunities to grow.
And there's another side to this: we may also be taking away our own opportunity to grow as leaders.
In this episode, you'll learn:
Sometimes empowering someone isn't about giving them more responsibility.
Sometimes it's about trusting them enough to give them the information, let them experience their own emotions, and allow them to decide what happens next.
And trusting yourself enough to handle the discomfort that may come with it.
Hello, everyone, and I think you're gonna enjoy this one today.
Speaker:It's quite an interesting thing that we tend to do, and
Speaker:we might not even realize it.
Speaker:And we not only do it to our teams or to our colleagues, but we can
Speaker:also do it to our friends and family.
Speaker:So in this episode, we're gonna look at the difference between protecting
Speaker:people and unintentionally disempowering them, and why sometimes the empowering
Speaker:thing to do as leaders is to stop deciding what other adults can handle.
Speaker:So my name is Torrey, and welcome to the "Becoming the Modern Humanitarian
Speaker:and Development Leader" podcast.
Speaker:And I've been thinking about this a lot recently because I find myself
Speaker:even catching myself doing it,
Speaker:and also I see my students doing it as well.
Speaker:So perhaps you can identify with this, like if you've ever tried to
Speaker:give feedback and decided not to give it because you were afraid the
Speaker:other person wouldn't take it well.
Speaker:Or maybe you didn't tell someone about an opportunity, for example, to
Speaker:help out with a project or a regional initiative, whatever it was, because
Speaker:you assumed they were already too busy.
Speaker:Or maybe you avoided a difficult conversation, we probably all can
Speaker:identify with that because you thought it would upset the other person.
Speaker:It can feel considerate, it can feel like good leadership, but
Speaker:what if what you're actually doing is taking away their choice?
Speaker:And what if in trying to protect them from an uncontrollable experience,
Speaker:you're actually taking away an opportunity for both of you to grow?
Speaker:So I want you to think about this, whether you've done something like this.
Speaker:For example, you don't send someone an email because you think, "Mm,
Speaker:they're probably already overwhelmed.
Speaker:I'm not gonna bother them." Or you don't tell someone about an opportunity
Speaker:because you think, "Ah, they're too busy.
Speaker:They don't have time for this," or, "They don't have budget for this."
Speaker:You don't assign someone a challenging project because you think, "Mm,
Speaker:they don't have enough experience yet." You don't give honest feedback
Speaker:to someone because you think, "Ah, they're gonna take this personally.
Speaker:They're gonna be mad with me.
Speaker:It's going to upset them." And what's interesting is that in almost every
Speaker:one of these situations, we can tell ourselves that we're being helpful.
Speaker:We're doing it from what we think is a caring place.
Speaker:But I want you to notice something else.
Speaker:We've made a decision for that person, who is an adult, based on an assumption about
Speaker:how we think they're going to respond.
Speaker:And I find this so fascinating because it's so common.
Speaker:I know I do it sometimes.
Speaker:I have to catch myself, like I said.
Speaker:I see my students do it when we're talking about feedback and how to give
Speaker:and receive feedback in my course.
Speaker:And sometimes, yeah, we've already made a decision for someone else and
Speaker:taken away their agency by doing so.
Speaker:We've decided they're too busy.
Speaker:We decide they aren't ready.
Speaker:We decided they can't handle the feedback.
Speaker:But we never actually involved them in making the choice for themselves So this
Speaker:is one of the reasons that I think our mindset is so important in leadership.
Speaker:Because very often something happens.
Speaker:We create a thought about what it means, and then we start treating
Speaker:that thought as if it were a fact.
Speaker:So for example, the fact might be my colleague has a lot going on right
Speaker:now, but then I add, "She's too busy to take on this opportunity," or,
Speaker:"She's too busy to answer my email," or, "They're too overwhelmed to,
Speaker:look at this new responsibility." And then from there I decide, "I'm
Speaker:not even gonna tell them about it."
Speaker:But what do I actually know?
Speaker:How do I actually know that person is too busy?
Speaker:Most of the time we're making an assumption.
Speaker:Maybe she would say no, maybe we're right, but maybe she would
Speaker:actually say, "Actually, I've been waiting for this opportunity.
Speaker:I would love to do that.
Speaker:Let me see what else I can first move around," or, "Let
Speaker:me see how I can make time."
Speaker:Or maybe it's, "I don't care. I wanna do it all." Maybe this opportunity
Speaker:is actually more important to her than something she's currently doing.
Speaker:Maybe she'd say, "Not right now, but think of me next time." Or
Speaker:maybe she'd say, "You're right.
Speaker:I don't have the ability, I don't have the capacity right now." But here's
the difference:She got to decide.
the difference:I didn't decide for her.
the difference:And the same thing happens with feedback.
the difference:The fact may be I have some difficult feedback I need to give someone.
the difference:My thought is: "he's going to become defensive", and then my decision becomes,
the difference:"I'm just not gonna give that feedback.
the difference:I'm just not gonna tell him what's really happening here."
the difference:And again, by doing that, I've taken an assumption about what that other
the difference:person might do and turned it into a reason to withhold information
the difference:that could actually help them.
the difference:One of the biggest examples of this happened to me years ago when I was
the difference:managing a very difficult project.
the difference:There was someone on the project, I'll call them John, and the
the difference:situation was becoming very difficult, overly complicated.
the difference:We were falling behind in the project.
the difference:And John was in charge of the project, and I wasn't completely
the difference:honest with John about how, just how bad things were falling apart.
the difference:And at the time, I had a reason for that.
the difference:I thought he would become upset.
the difference:I thought I was protecting him.
the difference:I thought that giving him the full picture might cause unnecessary stress.
the difference:But looking at it now, I see it very differently.
the difference:I see that by withholding the information from John about what he could and
the difference:couldn't handle, I robbed him of the opportunity to step up and to grow.
the difference:And sometimes I wonder what have, would have happened if I had simply
the difference:had a more honest conversation with him sooner, because eventually I
the difference:had to let him go, and that was an even more difficult conversation.
the difference:So if I had let him known sooner, maybe he would have made a decision to leave
the difference:sooner, or maybe he would have started looking for another opportunity, or
the difference:maybe he would have changed something.
the difference:Maybe he would have prepared himself differently for what eventually happened.
the difference:Maybe he would have been upset.
the difference:I don't know.
the difference:But that's actually the point.
the difference:I don't know what he would have done, and I didn't give him the
the difference:chance or the opportunity to make that decision for himself.
the difference:In trying to protect him from a difficult reality, I may have actually
the difference:prevented him from responding to that reality, and that is something
the difference:I think about very differently now.
the difference:It is actually one of the biggest regrets I have in all of my years as a leader.
the difference:Now, I wanna be clear here.
the difference:I'm not saying leaders should tell everyone everything, right?
the difference:There is a time where things need to remain confidential.
the difference:There are safeguarding concerns, there are security concerns, legal obligations.
the difference:There are emergencies where the leaders need to make decisions quickly.
the difference:But this isn't about just abandoning your judgment or responsibility as
the difference:a leader, but it's about noticing something much more subtle.
the difference:When am I making a decision for another capable adult, primarily because
the difference:of an assumption about how I think they're going to feel or respond?
the difference:In other words, I'm afraid of their feelings.
the difference:I'm afraid of their reaction that I don't even know they're going to have.
the difference:And there's another question that's-- can be uncomfortable to ask, but
the difference:is worth asking, and that is, what or who am I actually protecting?
the difference:Let's say I tell myself, "I'm not going to give this feedback to this
the difference:person because they'll be upset."
the difference:Maybe that's true, but perhaps there's another piece of it.
the difference:Maybe I don't want to experience him being upset with me, or I'm not going
the difference:to have this conversation because they already have so much going on right now.
the difference:Again, perhaps that's true, but maybe I'm also uncomfortable having
the difference:difficult conversations, and this gives me a very compassionate
the difference:sounding reason to avoid one.
the difference:It sounds so nice, right?
the difference:I'm sparing their feelings.
the difference:I'm helping them by not telling them.
the difference:But sometimes what we call protecting another person is partly about protecting
the difference:ourselves from discomfort, and I think that's worth getting curious about because
the difference:by protecting ourselves from how we think they are gonna react, we are protecting
the difference:ourselves from how we think we will react.
the difference:So am I protecting them from discomfort?
the difference:Or am I protecting myself from having to witness their discomfort?
the difference:So we are responsible for how we communicate,
the difference:not for controlling their reaction.
the difference:We are not responsible for other people's reactions or emotions.
the difference:This is an important distinction.
the difference:As leaders, we absolutely have responsibility to think about
the difference:the impact of our actions.
the difference:For how we communicate, we're responsible for being respectful.
the difference:We're responsible for choosing an appropriate time and place
the difference:for a difficult conversation, for communicating clearly, for listening.
the difference:But we are not responsible for controlling another adult's emotional response.
the difference:Someone might be disappointed by a decision or may feel
the difference:uncomfortable receiving feedback.
the difference:They may be frustrated during a difficult conversation or feel nervous about taking
the difference:on a stretch assignment, and that doesn't automatically mean that we've harmed them.
the difference:Because discomfort and harm are not the same thing.
the difference:In fact, sometimes discomfort is exactly where learning happens, and sometimes
the difference:being caring means being and creating situations that may not be so comfortable.
the difference:So it's worth thinking about what might we be taking away from them?
the difference:This is where I think the consequences become much bigger
the difference:than the individual decision.
the difference:Because when we continually protect people from things that we believe
the difference:they can't handle, we may be taking away much more than we realize.
the difference:We take away agency.
the difference:They don't get to decide for themselves.
the difference:We take away information.
the difference:They don't have all the information they need to make choices about
the difference:their own career, work, or situation, and we take away learning.
the difference:They don't get to experience something difficult and
the difference:discover how they might respond.
the difference:We take away growth.
the difference:They miss the stretch assignment, the feedback, the difficult conversation,
the difference:the chance to make a mistake and learn from it, the chance to be able to respond
the difference:emotionally, and then maybe if they respond poorly, they might even become
the difference:more self-aware and change in the future.
the difference:But the point is, it's their choice.
the difference:So perhaps most importantly, by doing this, we can unintentionally communicate,
the difference:"I don't trust you to handle this." And that's where I think this becomes
the difference:particularly important for those of us who say we want to empower our teams.
the difference:But there's another side of this that we don't talk about so much.
the difference:What might we be taking away from ourselves?
the difference:When we protect other people from uncomfortable situations, we may be
the difference:robbing ourselves an opportunity to grow as leaders because maybe the
the difference:growth opportunity isn't only theirs.
the difference:Maybe it's our opportunity as well to have a difficult
the difference:conversation we've been avoiding.
the difference:Maybe it's our opportunity to become more honest and transparent,
the difference:to give more direct feedback, or be a better communicator.
the difference:Or maybe it's our opportunity to learn how to stay present when someone else
the difference:is experiencing a strong emotion without immediately trying to fix it, defend
the difference:ourselves, or make that emotion go away.
the difference:So I have a really good example of this.
the difference:I remember one time a member of my team became extremely upset
the difference:with me because she believed I was favoring someone else over her.
the difference:I didn't believe that was true, and I could have immediately become defensive.
the difference:She came into my office, and she started screaming at me and
the difference:crying and making this huge scene.
the difference:I think the whole office could hear her.
the difference:The other person also was sitting right there, so it was quite
the difference:overwhelming, I think, for them.
the difference:And I could have interrupted her and explained why she was wrong.
the difference:I could have shut the conversation down because I didn't like the
the difference:way she was expressing herself.
the difference:But instead, I stayed silent, I listened, and she really let me have it.
the difference:Let me tell you, she was so angry.
the difference:She told me exactly what she thought, and that was very uncomfortable as I was
the difference:sitting there listening to all of this.
the difference:But I had an opportunity in that moment to practice something as a leader.
the difference:Could I allow someone else to be upset without making their emotion a
the difference:problem that I needed to solve, without making their feelings my problem?
the difference:So I decided to just sit, be calm, listen.
the difference:I observed what was happening in myself, and I resisted the urge to defend myself.
the difference:Eventually, something changed.
the difference:She started to calm down, and once the emotion had passed, she was able to
the difference:reflect differently on what had happened.
the difference:Later, she actually came back and thanked me.
the difference:This is, the most unbelievable part, is that I never would have expected her to
the difference:come back and thank me just for listening.
the difference:But regardless of whether she had thanked me, I learned something
the difference:very valuable from that experience.
the difference:I learned I could sit with someone else's anger and be uncomfortable and be okay.
the difference:I learned that I didn't have to defend myself just because
the difference:someone was upset with me.
the difference:I learned that someone else's strong emotional reaction didn't necessarily
the difference:mean I had done something wrong or that I needed to make their emotions go away.
the difference:And think about what happens if we're constantly avoiding situations because we
the difference:predict someone else might become upset.
the difference:We never get to practice handling someone being upset,
the difference:and so we stay smaller, right?
the difference:As a leader, if we avoid giving difficult feedback because someone
the difference:might become defensive, we never learn how to navigate defensiveness.
the difference:We don't have that leadership skill developed.
the difference:We become weaker in that area.
the difference:If we avoid honest conversations because we think that they might
the difference:become uncomfortable, we may never get more skilled at having
the difference:those types of conversations.
the difference:If we avoid telling someone something because we're afraid of
the difference:their reaction, we will become less honest, open, and transparent in
the difference:situations that might actually help us grow and the other person too.
the difference:When we decide what another person can handle, we may be limiting
the difference:their growth and also our own.
the difference:And I think that's worth remembering the next time we tell ourselves, "I'm not
the difference:gonna do this today because they will…"
the difference:Or maybe the question isn't only "what opportunity am I taking from
the difference:them", but also "what opportunity am I taking away from myself"?
the difference:So you can't empower someone while constantly deciding for them
the difference:what they can and can't handle.
the difference:We talk a lot about empowerment and leadership, especially in this podcast
the difference:and in, in my course, and empowerment is a big part of the work I do with leaders.
the difference:How do we empower others?
the difference:How do we give them a voice?
the difference:How do we get people to be more confident, more proactive, and step
the difference:up and become more high-performing?
the difference:We want our teams to take ownership.
the difference:We want them to make decisions for themselves.
the difference:We want them to solve problems and be more confident and grow.
the difference:But think about that contradiction if, at the same time, we want those
the difference:things, we're also constantly deciding what they can and can't handle.
the difference:And it can be so subconscious, those decisions.
the difference:It can be so subtle.
the difference:We don't even realize we're doing it.
the difference:And that is why this episode is so important for you today.
the difference:For example, situations where we say, "I want you to take ownership, but I won't
the difference:tell you this because I don't think you can handle it," or, "I want you to grow,
the difference:but I don't want to give you this a- assignment because I don't think you're
the difference:ready," or, "I want you to develop, but I'm not gonna give you honest feedback
the difference:because I think you'll become defensive."
the difference:I want you to make decisions, but I've already decided that you're too busy for
the difference:this opportunity." That's not empowerment, because empowerment requires trust.
the difference:And sometimes that means trusting someone with something that may be uncomfortable.
the difference:It means trusting them with difficult feedback, trusting them with an
the difference:opportunity that they might choose to turn down, or trusting them
the difference:with information they may not like.
the difference:Trusting them enough to let them make a decision that might be different
the difference:from the one you would make for them.
the difference:And trusting that even if they don't handle something perfectly, they are
the difference:capable of learning from the experience.
the difference:Because here's the question I keep coming back to: If I keep protecting someone from
the difference:situations because I don't believe they can handle them, when exactly do they get
the difference:the opportunity to learn that they can?
the difference:So I want to give you something very simple to pay attention to this week.
the difference:Notice whenever you hear yourself thinking, "I'm not going to
the difference:blank because they will blank.
the difference:I'm not going to tell her because she'll worry.
the difference:I'm not to give him feedback because he'll get defensive.
the difference:I'm not going to offer her the project because she'll be overwhelmed.
the difference:I'm not gonna bring this up because he'll get upset."
the difference:When you hear yourself thinking about something like that, pause and ask,
the difference:"Do I actually know that's true, or am I assuming it?" And then ask, "Is
the difference:there a legitimate reason that I need to make this decision for this person
the difference:as their own adult?" Maybe there is.
the difference:But if there isn't, "Can I give them the information and allow them to decide?"
the difference:And then ask, "What opportunity might I be taking away from this person or myself
the difference:by trying to protect them?" Maybe it's an opportunity to grow for both of us.
the difference:Maybe it's the opportunity to make a choice or learn how to
the difference:have an honest conversation.
the difference:So I think sometimes without realizing it, we can start treating the
the difference:adults we lead a bit like children.
the difference:We filter information, we soften reality, we remove choices, and we
the difference:try to prevent uncomfortable feelings, and we do it because we care.
the difference:But caring about someone doesn't mean deciding for them what they can handle.
the difference:Sometimes caring about someone means giving them the dignity of making their
the difference:own choice, and that doesn't mean we stop supporting them, quite the opposite.
the difference:We can say, "Here's what I see.
the difference:Here's the information I have.
the difference:Here's what I'm concerned about.
the difference:Here's the feedback I think you need to hear." And then, "What do you think?
the difference:What do you want to do?
the difference:What support do you need?" This is a very different kind of leadership.
the difference:We're not abandoning someone to figure out something on their own.
the difference:We're standing beside them while still allowing the decision and the growth
the difference:that comes with it to belong to them.
the difference:And at the same time, we're allowing ourselves to grow alongside them.
the difference:We're learning to have the conversation, tolerate discomfort,
the difference:not have to manage everyone's emotions, and learning to trust.
the difference:So before you finish this episode, I want you to think of one person you lead.
the difference:Maybe there's something you've been holding back from them, a
the difference:feedback opportunity, a difficult conversation, a decision you've
the difference:already made on their behalf.
the difference:And ask yourself, "What have I decided that this person cannot handle?"
the difference:And then ask, "What evidence do I actually have that that's true?" And perhaps
the difference:the more uncomfortable question, "am I protecting them from their discomfort,
the difference:or am I protecting myself from mine"?
the difference:Because we talk a lot about empowering people, but empowerment is not about
the difference:only delegating or giving someone else decision-making authority.
the difference:Sometimes empowerment is about trusting another adult with a difficult truth.
the difference:It's trusting them with feedback or an opportunity that they
the difference:might choose to turn down.
the difference:And perhaps it's also trusting them enough to let them experience discomfort,
the difference:disappointment, or frustration, and believing that they are capable of
the difference:handling it and deciding what to do next.
the difference:And perhaps it's also trusting ourselves that we can handle it too.
the difference:Sometimes one of the most empowering things we can do as leaders is
the difference:trust another adult enough to let them experience, decide, and grow
the difference:for themselves, and trust ourselves enough to grow alongside them.
the difference:Until next week, keep evolving.
the difference:Bye for now.