Have you found your accountability partner to help you stay on track and be focused with your goals? Similar to a coach, finding someone that can fill the void of making sure that you stay on track is vital to the success of the day-to-day, let alone the dreams that you set out to create. In this exciting conclusion to our interview with Kaneshi Hart, we discuss the importance of this concept, along with finding the "crazy, undeniable love" that we wish to have in the pursuit of what we truly enjoy. Not only do we find our true purpose (our "why"), but we are able to create dynamics in many of the expectations that we set for ourselves. This episode cumulates into the most undeniable concept of why this show, Speaking From The Heart, exists, and will blow you away with the sincerity, conviction, and purpose that both our podcast host and his guest both express in how they both forever move forward in creating value for themselves and others.

Guest Bio

Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home inhabiting, businesswoman who does and enjoys a variety of things. In the business world, she hosts the Coach UP podcast where she interviews six and seven figure coaches about how they built their businesses. She also connects businesses looking for places to advertise with podcasts who have the audiences those businesses want to target. Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the stock market and believes everyone needs to know how to extract money at any time from this multi-trillion dollar industry.

Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world of podcasting after spending almost 20 years in corporate America where she led and coached high performance teams and was responsible for over 600 employees and over $300M in revenue generation in the course of her work.

But now, on the other side of corporate life, she is enjoying helping other people build their businesses through the power of connection and conversation.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode number

96, part two of Speaking From The Heart.

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Now, if you weren't able to join us in

part one, I'm going to ask you to stop

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and go back and listen to part one,

because it was such a powerful part one

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that it will set up the conversation that

we have in part two, but just in case,

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if you're joining us, Kaneshi Hart was

my guest, and I'm going to give a little

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bit of her background again, in case you

want to learn a little bit about her.

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Kaneshi is a Jesus loving, home

inhabiting businesswoman who does

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and enjoys a variety of things.

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In the business world, she hosts the

Coach UP podcast, where she interviews

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six and seven figure coaches about

how they build their businesses.

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She also connects businesses

looking for places to advertise

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her podcast who have the audiences

those businesses want to target.

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Kaneshi is also a budding trader in the

stock market and believes everyone needs

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to know how to extract money at any time

from this multi trillion dollar industry.

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Kaneshi arrived at the wonderful world of

podcasting after spending almost 20 years

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in corporate America where she led and

coached high performance teams and was

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responsible for over 600 employees and

over 300 million in revenue generation

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in the course of her work, but now,

on the other side of corporate life,

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she's enjoying helping other people

build their businesses through the

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power of connection and conversation.

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I have to say that when we got through

this interview, my mouth dropped open.

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You see, back in episode 26 in which

I interviewed Matthew Roda, I made the

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promise at the end of part 2 of that

episode that I would let him know when

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I found somebody that was living an

authentic life, and my goodness ladies

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and gentlemen, I think I found this lady

not just because we were meant to connect

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on this important topic, but there was

a promise that we made to each other

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at the end of this episode that even

to this day, I am still thinking about

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the importance of why it's so entailed

to have a coach, to have somebody that

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truly believes in you, and is willing

to go, no matter what kind of distance,

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to help you show what kind of hope that

you have to make the future better.

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It isn't just about making a six or seven

figure business, but it's about having

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accountability, love, and that ability,

and that reality to say what you really

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have to say when it counts the most.

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Kaneshi was one of those guests that

at the end, I just couldn't hold myself

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back from saying what was truly on my

heart, because this episode, overall,

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really epitomizes the importance of

why I started this project in the first

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place, and why it's so important to

always, truly, speak from the heart.

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But with that let's go to the

conclusion, part two of my

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interview with Kaneshi Hart.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so you're

telling me you don't know your why?

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I mean, I feel that, Kaneshi, you have

this why inside of you that you've

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been literally articulating to me,

so I feel that you need to define

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that a bit for me and the audience.

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Explain what you mean by you

haven't figured out your why yet.

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Kaneshi: Okay.

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Wait, Josh.

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Okay.

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You said you feel like I've

been articulating it for you.

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I'm going to ask you to be

a mirror for me real quick.

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What have you heard, because

you might be able to help me.

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Joshua: I have to explain

this to the audience.

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Kaneshi: OK.

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Joshua: So one of the things that

I think as a coach, I always say to

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people is: what is it that you really

want to be, so kind of laying that out,

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what is it that you want to achieve?

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You've talked about even earlier what

you want to achieve with opening a

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business, wanting to help people, really

connecting because you love people.

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You have all those elements, right, so

usually in my business, I've talked about

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this in other episodes about SMART goals,

so it's being specific, measurable,

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attainable, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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You have those aspects already in your

head and you're articulating them so

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eloquently to me and our listeners,

so I feel that you have some of that.

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To build upon this, I feel like what

you're saying is that you like to

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help people, so why not be a coach?

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Why not help others to achieve

greatness as you are achieving that

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greatness right now through the love

that you have for Jesus, for the things

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that you've done to achieve what you

have been achieving for the podcast.

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You are doing the work, and I think this

is an important lesson for listeners that

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this is essentially what we have to do.

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We have to kind of negotiate with

ourselves what we're trying to achieve,

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so tell me today, on this episode,

that you are going to open a business.

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You're going to help the people

that you really want to help, but

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more importantly, you're going to

achieve that success that you define.

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You're going to do that for me, right?

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Kaneshi: It's inevitable, right?

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It has to be done.

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I either we have to do it or we just

live with regret and disappointment and

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who wants to live in that space, so I

like what you said, and I appreciate

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the challenge, Josh, because as you

were making that point, there were

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some things that, that came up for me,

which tells me you're a good coach.

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I can already see that.

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Joshua: Thank you for that.

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Kaneshi: Because that's

exactly what coaches do, right?

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You draw out, you make your client, and in

this case, your guest, really think about

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things for ourselves, right, and reflect

back to us, so thank you for doing that,

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so as you talked about that; all right.

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Why am I not a coach, and what do

I already do that already helps

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people maybe would be in that space.

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I'll tell you a quick story

with my substitute teaching.

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Right now as a substitute teacher

in my district, it's beautiful.

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I go online either the night before

or the morning of, and I get to pick

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where I go to work that day, if I want

to work that day, and it's super easy.

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I don't know the children.

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I don't have a connection.

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I'm going in to facilitate what a teacher

needed me to do, and then I'm gone.

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No connection, but over the last month

and for another 30 days coming, I actually

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have taken on what they call a long term

sub position where I'm with the same

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kids for eight weeks and I'm responsible

for their learning, and Josh, to your

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point, I have so much more purpose.

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I have so much more drive.

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I have so much more investment and joy in

knowing that these little minds who get

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on my last nerves quite often, but they

are precious, but these little minds are

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my responsibility to mold, to grow, to

help become better in this time space,

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and that truly drives me, right, so when

I think about my why, I can reflect on

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that and say, "I've not had that in a

long time", because working for myself,

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I don't have a team yet, right, but I

did leadership: leading teams, managing

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teams, supporting teams for almost two

decades, over two decades, and that is-

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yeah, there's a joy that comes, and I

think, to your point again, like your

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why, when you know it, but when you're

operating in it, or your purpose, like

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there is a joy that just naturally comes.

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It doesn't mean stuff isn't hard.

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It doesn't mean there's not parts

that you don't enjoy, but like I

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truly walk away with a sense of

joy, and so why am I not a coach?

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I don't think at the moment that's

supposed to be my space, because in this

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season where I'm getting to be with these

children for a time and lead them, and I

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compare that to like one on one coaching,

I realized I really do well with the team.

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I really do well with the group, right?

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Joshua: Why don't you

do team coaching then?

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Kaneshi: I'm tired of you.

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I'm tired of you Josh.

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Joshua: No, seriously, because if you

don't like working on an individual

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basis, because there are various

different types of coaching for that

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matter, and we all work in different

avenues, or modalities if you will,

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to create those spaces for helping

others, so if you like working with

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multiple people, why not team coaching?

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Why not something in that field, whether

it's not coaching, it's something else?

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Kaneshi, I am challenging you.

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Kaneshi: You are.

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Joshua: I'm putting you on the spot, but-

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Kaneshi: I like it.

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Joshua: I see this passion and this

energy, and my listeners, I'm just

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going to describe what I see right now.

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I see a beautiful lady smiling from chin

to chin and she is; well, cheek to cheek,

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I should say, and definitely creating

this value for all of us that we need

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to be able to learn to just have these

tough conversations that we're so afraid

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of having, because we're not living our

fullest potential, and I know and my heart

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goes out for those people, especially

you right now, it's like, how about put

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you as the victim here of my sort of

charade of questions, but I think it's

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so important because of the people that

you surround yourself with to do this.

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Kaneshi: Yes, because you've got

to have people to challenge you,

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right, because we can talk ourselves

out of stuff in a heartbeat and we

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let ourselves off the hook so very

much, and again, to your point.

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There's a disconnect.

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I can tell the difference when I'm

working on my own on the podcast.

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When I'm working in the business.

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I'm having to do the marketing.

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I'm having to do the admin.

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I'm having to do all that stuff.

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That does not bring me any joy.

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There's a difference in that

when I'm talking to a guest.

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We're having this amazing

conversation today.

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There's a different light.

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There's a different energy.

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There's a different light and energy for

me when I'm working with these children

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that I get the privilege of helping,

and so, yes, to your point, when I'm

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not there it's not as fun of a place,

and so why not push myself, challenge

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myself, to do what you're talking about?

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I don't know what it looks like, but I can

agree with you, and I will say I enjoy one

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on one coaching in the midst of a group,

so I love that one on one because, and you

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know this Josh, and I know you've seen it.

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We talked about it earlier.

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Where you get to see

people's lives change.

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They overcome obstacles.

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They reach new heights.

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Okay.

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Let me, let me share this with your,

with your client; your guest, okay.

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Guys-

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Joshua: Listeners.

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Kaneshi: Your listeners!

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Your guests.

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You all our guests today-,

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Joshua: They're all my guests, but

you're my listeners, but I hope you'd

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be my guests at some point, along with

even my clients, but anyways, go on-

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Kaneshi: All of that.

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Joshua: Yes.

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Kaneshi: I want people to know, no

matter what you're doing, and who you're

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working with, if you work with people

in any capacity or on your own, set

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your bar high, and set the bar high

for people around you, because people

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will rise to the bar that you set for

them and then they will thank you for

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believing in them more than they believe

in themselves, for seeing more in them

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than they saw in themselves, and you

know, temper it with how they are.

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Don't set unrealistic standards for

people, but I've truly have seen when

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you hold people to a higher standard,

they rise to that and people love it.

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One of my team members told me- it's been

almost eight years, but one of the things

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for me is I think on things for 48 hours,

like I don't make decisions immediately.

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Everybody's different, but that's me,

but in my one on one session with her.

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We had that conversation.

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She was going through some stuff and years

later, she sent me a message on Facebook.

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This has been in the last year, and

she was like, "I still make decisions."

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She had done something.

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I congratulated her on her, and she said,

"Well, I made the decision because I still

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wait 48 hours before I make a decision."

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When you have those moments that

you know you've impacted somebody,

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yeah, and you've helped them to

make adjustments in their lives.

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You're right.

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There's a joy, and so I do.

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I know my why is to help people.

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I just need to figure out, in addition

to the podcast, in addition to the

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business that I'm building, how else

that looks that's also fulfilling

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for other people, as well as me,

so I think I have some work to do.

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Joshua: I'm going to throw one more

challenge on you because you said

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about not liking the marketing,

the admin stuff for that, but

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we were just talking about that.

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That's why we have interns.

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Those are the people that do that work.

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You are designed to do the

things that you enjoy that you're

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passionate about, so hire somebody.

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Here; this is some advice for the

listeners to even for you, Kaneshi, hire

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the people that love doing the accounting.

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Hire the people that

love to do the marketing.

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I have two people in my life.

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I'm going to give them a quick shout out

because I haven't yet, but I'm hoping to

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have them yet on the show at some point.

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Deborah Mawson, who is my bookkeeper.

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She's been a phenomenal person; make

sure I'm staying in the clear and

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making sure that I have everything

accounted for, but I also have a media

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marketing firm that's helped me with my

social media postings and my website.

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Corey and Brittany Hart

of Enzo Digital LLC.

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Those two groups helped me so much so that

I don't have to worry about those things.

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I get focused on what I love: coaching

and podcasting, which at some point I

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would love to pass along the editing of

my podcast, because I absolutely despise

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it to somebody else because I'm not

that tech savvy when it comes to that

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sometimes, and I know people have more

of a creative niche, but here's my deal.

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This is why I'm saying all this, not only

to you Kaneshi, but to the listeners.

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You have a gift.

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Use it to its fullest potential

because you only have one life to

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live, and we only have so much finite

time, like we were just talking

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about earlier about time management.

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I think that you have this heart of gold

that you've been sharing so far that I

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think that you are destined for greatness.

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I will say that to you, because

you do the Coach UP podcast.

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You surround yourself with six,

seven figure business owners that

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have created so much significant

value, not just monetarily, but with

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relationships, because above all else,

that is what's really important, and,

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you have a relationship with Jesus.

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You have a relationship

with people that love you.

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Why not?

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Make me a promise, okay?

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Can you make me a promise?

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Kaneshi: Let's see what

this promise is, Josh.

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What's you got?

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Joshua: By the next time that you're on

my show, which you will be back on my

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show at some point, I want to hear that

not only did you open your business, not

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only are you doing what you are called

to do, you found your why, but you're

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also one of those six or seven figure

business owners that I get to interview.

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Can you make me that promise?

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Kaneshi: I will commit to

that with a caveat for you.

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Joshua: What's the caveat to me?

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Kaneshi: Yes.

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That likewise, the next time I'm on

your podcast, you will be a six or

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seven figure business owner, and I

will get to have you on my podcast.

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Joshua: Deal.

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If I'm going to hold you the same

standard, I'm going to be doing

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the same work because it's about

accountability; that's what coaches do.

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Kaneshi: Yes.

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Joshua: And that's what's really creating

a lot of those different things, so here.

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I want to put this back into the

general conversation, because I've

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really just been challenging you

the last 20 minutes and I feel like-

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Kaneshi: I appreciate it.

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Joshua: I've been doing that, but I

think this is just a real life example

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for people of sometimes the things

that we wrestle with, but you've been

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through so much with the layoffs.

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A lot of people have been through

a lot of things with COVID.

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I struggled and I've even let my listeners

know way in the past about my struggles

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with that, especially after I tried

suicide, and go on a recovery process

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that was prolonged because of Covid.

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: You have gone through hell.

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Let's be real.

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You have gone through hell having

to stick to your beliefs and

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stay confirmed to those beliefs.

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: What is your purpose?

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I really want you to answer that question.

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It isn't just about the why

that we were just talking about.

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Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

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Joshua: What is your real purpose?

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Kaneshi: You know, I think it is to be,

man, thank you for this question, and I

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say that because we really- we don't ask

ourselves these enough, and even if we do,

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answering ourselves is hard, but when you

have to say it to somebody else, it really

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makes you think about it, and it hopefully

it makes you honest, so thank you.

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Joshua: You know, I don't like asking

that question to myself, because I

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would be, "Uh, well, but, you know", I

would have all kinds of filler words,

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which for my Toastmaster audiences,

I know I just counted them all.

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It was about four or five.

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Don't worry.

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I got a tracker, but it's part of that.

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We are so concerned about what those

things are that we obsess about it, so

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I think that we kind of overcompensate

for it, so I understand, because I would

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feel uncomfortable about it too, but

putting you on the spot is probably the

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best thing for not only myself, but for

other people listening to this that need

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that hope and know that they do have

that purpose, so I'll ask you again.

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What is your purpose, Kanisha Hart?

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Kaneshi: When you ask me that question,

this is what comes to mind; two things,

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and hopefully they're interrelated.

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One is, it is to be an example to people,

and maybe slightly more with an emphasis

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on women, but not necessarily, but I am

a woman, and love being a woman, and so-

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Joshua: You know, and honestly, let's

just call it out for what it is.

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You're a black woman.

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Kaneshi: Amen.

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Joshua: But you know what?

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You are a successful, powerful black

woman, and I will go to my grave

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appreciating everybody, regardless

of skin color, sex, creed, origin.

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Who cares?

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You're doing it, so

anyways, I have to say that.

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I really do.

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I feel that we shy away from that

conversation, me being a white dude.

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I get it.

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" Oh, he has all the power.

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He controls it."

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No, he doesn't.

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Kaneshi: Right.

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Joshua: No, we all have this equal

shot, and I know that we sometimes

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say, "Well, society tells us we don't."

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Bullshit.

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Kaneshi: Right.

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Correct.

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Society doesn't dictate

the decisions that we make.

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Society doesn't dictate what we choose to

do and not to do, right, and so we have to

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forge our own path by our own decisions,

and so, yes, so I am a lover of Jesus.

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I am a woman and I am born to

amazing parents who are black.

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All of that applies to me, and so

my purpose is to show others what is

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possible, and to be that example for them,

and the second thing that comes to mind

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is I believe the Lord has given me this

dream, and I believe it was spoken over

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me that I am supposed to help women who

are in sex trafficking and Josh, it's

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not just helping them get back on their

feet, but it is the totality of showing

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them what confidence looks like again.

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Showing them what hope looks like again.

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Showing them that as a woman,

you can walk powerfully.

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You can walk confidently.

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You can walk in the dreams, right?

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You can, like you were just talking about.

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It's not society that dictates what we do.

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It is us.

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We make those decisions, regardless of

our background, our sex, all of that,

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and so I feel like my purpose is to

provide that hope to be that example

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of that hope for people who are in

my space, that God sends to my space,

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because we all have space, like we were

talking about earlier for you, you have

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a story, Josh, that people need to hear,

and you have gone through so much of

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yourself, but you are on the other side,

like, and not even on the other side.

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I guess that's a bad way to look at it

because we're all still living life,

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but you have overcome something that

is truly difficult, and you're still

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walking forward, and you're choosing

to make a difference for other people.

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You're choosing to be

courageous every single day.

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You're choosing to pour back into people

when you had a time when you didn't feel

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like anybody was pouring into you, right?

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That is powerful, and there are

people who will connect only with

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you, so you have to share your story.

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You have to continue to be brave,

and so I challenge you to continue

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to do that, and more, because

people need to hear from Josh.

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They absolutely hear from you.

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There are people who will

consider taking their lives.

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There are people who will

consider starting a business.

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There are people who

will want to be a coach.

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There are people who want to do a podcast,

and they will not do it if they don't

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get to hear Josh on Speaking From The

Heart, or they don't get to hear Josh on

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a stage sharing his story or sharing about

how he built his coaching business, or

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sharing the insights you have as a coach.

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They won't, because they need your voice,

because you are unique and special and

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made for a reason, and the life that

you're living correlates with thousands,

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if not millions, of other lives that

need to connect with you, and every

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single person has that, and so I think

for me, my purpose is to be that example

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for those people who need to come that

possible is probable for you, and yeah.

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Okay.

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Man.

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Thanks.

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Wow.

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Joshua: I have to say this, and

for my listeners, this is me being

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really authentically speaking

from the heart for a moment.

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I'm literally on the verge of tears, as

I usually sometimes am when I have these

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long winded conversations with people,

and the last time I can even think back

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was episode 26, for those that have been

longtime followers, you know that was

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the famous Matthew Roda episode in which

I found out that Matt was doing drugs.

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He found his guardian angel, Helen,

his wife, and has really changed his

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life for the better of running three

businesses, so putting that all to the

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side, I had, Kaneshi, this gentleman,

next morning he says to me, "That was

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the most impactful interview that I've

ever done on any podcast, and you've

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changed my life forever.", and to hear

you say that to me, even in this very

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moment, makes me reaffirm the fact that

I'm literally four episodes away from

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episode 100, and this has been a life

changing experience for me, because what

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originally started as a concept where

I just wanted to really get myself out

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there, to get my story out there, to let

people know a little bit about who I am

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and what this is all about, has turned

into something that has significantly and

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forever changed my life, and it's because

of people like you that live that life

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wholeheartedly, that want to explore and

inspire others to create not only those

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opportunities, but to share what has been

on our hearts, and being a fellow podcast

390

host, I think you're going to relate to

this next question that I have for you.

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There's been many people probably on

your show that have been inspired,

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which just to remind people, because

we've been talking for a while about

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your Coach UP podcast that you have.

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Who has been the most impactful person

that you've had on the show and how

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has that changed you for the better?

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Kaneshi: First, I want to say, I

have to echo your guest, because this

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conversation, Josh, you not backing down

and challenging me to really articulate

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what my purpose is; dig into that why.

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There's a fire.

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A new fire, like the fire is

being rekindled in me, so thank

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you, so this conversation.

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It's in the top five right now,

and I'm not even interviewing you.

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OK.

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Joshua: Yeah, so you can't say me

to the answer to that question.

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Kaneshi: I can't say you, but

I'll tell you, so one of them-

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two of them come to mind.

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One is Maya Herodette, so her episode

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you want to check that out, amazing.

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She's an amazing woman, but what I loved

about her interview, and really the

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after conversation, like you and I had an

amazing conversation before we started.

411

I really think you should record some

of those conversations and use them

412

as outtakes because it was a fire.

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Y'all missed some fire

conversation with Josh and I.

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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Kaneshi: But her conversation in mind even

after we got done, she was the catalyst

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to help me birth my business that I'm

building as the extension of my podcast.

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We were talking about

sponsorships for podcasts.

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You have a podcast.

419

I have a podcast.

420

People who have podcasts

usually want sponsors.

421

That's one way that we monetize our

podcasts, and I wanted to help with that,

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but because of how she is, who she is,

how she has a heart to serve, she was

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talking to me about my idea of connecting

businesses with podcasts, and so helping

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businesses find the podcast that they

want to advertise on, so the podcast can

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get the money that they're looking for.

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The business can get in front of

the audience that they want, and the

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business and the podcast don't have

to do the work to find each other.

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I will do that.

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That's the business that I'm building.

430

Now you're going to ask

me about that earlier.

431

There it is, but-

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Joshua: Boom!

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There it goes what it is that she

is doing because she will do it

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because she's a successful woman.

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Kaneshi: And I've committed it to you.

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Joshua: You did.

437

Kaneshi: Yeah-

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Joshua: You're doing it.

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Kaneshi: Absolutely.

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Already done, so her asking me questions

that helped to really sink that idea,

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and then she said these words to

me, Josh, similar to what you said.

442

She said, "I need what you're going

to offer, because I'm not going-"; She

443

has a coaching business, obviously,

and so she needs people to find a

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podcast that has her audience, and

she said, "I need people to do what

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you're doing and that is a seven figure

business.", and just to hear somebody

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breathe that belief into that idea.

447

There was such a peace, praise the

Lord, that just came and sat with me.

448

I just knew, okay, that's what I'm

supposed to do, so she was amazing,

449

and then really quickly, the other one

that really impacted me was Tim Winders

450

is a coach who in the first, I think,

quarter of a year, he and his wife

451

had gone from like multi millions to

homeless and their homeless life was

452

crazy, but that's a whole other story.

453

You can go listen to the episode, but then

the first three months after they bounced

454

back, they made like 300, 500 dollars

in three months, and then at the end of

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the year, they had 12 streams of income.

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Sometimes you just need, and just

to hear him talk about it, sometimes

457

you just need those belief barriers

broken, right, because we hear the

458

thing, "Anything is possible", but

do we really believe it, like, okay,

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Josh, I'm going to ask you a question.

460

Joshua: Yes.

461

Kaneshi: What is that thing that you want?

462

You mentally know that it's possible,

but you have a belief barrier that's

463

keeping you from really, truly 100

percent believing it's for you?

464

Joshua: Wow.

465

That is really the toughest question

that any podcast host has asked me, and

466

even on my own podcast for that matter,

it's been the toughest question asked.

467

You know, I think that sometimes we hold

ourselves back from really the ultimate

468

true selves that we have lying dormant,

and I'll tell you, I have that same fire

469

that you've just talked about earlier,

and I have many times tried to take a

470

bucket of water and try to extinguish it,

but it keeps on lighting itself back up.

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I will say that, without disclosing the

names of individuals, there have been

472

certain individuals that have held me

back, and I am so ready to lead a life

473

in which I'm not dictated or detailed by

some people, or profiled, for what I've

474

done as actions because that was old Josh.

475

That was the old Josh that, at 32

years of age, wanted to pick up a

476

kitchen knife and slit his wrist.

477

Dead serious.

478

Was ready to be done with it.

479

The bricks on my back, as I've even

mentioned on being guests on other shows,

480

was too much to bear, but now, those

bricks, they are the building materials

481

that I'm using to create not just the

best version of who I am, but ultimately

482

what I was destined to be, and that is

the single most biggest revelation that

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I've ever had in my entire life, which

is why I ask you the question of who has

484

been your biggest inspirations on your

podcast, because I can mention Matthew

485

Roda who was really an awesome person.

486

I had Brianne DiDino who was also a coach.

487

She really challenged me to think

about my thought patterns and

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ways in which I've been who I am.

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I've had classmates on

the show saying, "My god.

490

You've changed so much",

but then there's you.

491

Challenging you has been the single

most rewarding thing I have done yet on

492

this show, and because of that, I think

it means so much to me to know that

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you're willing to carry that forward,

and even if you say to yourself, even

494

immediately afterwards that you can't

do it, there's something else inside

495

of you that will say, you can do it.

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Kaneshi: Absolutely.

497

Joshua: And that's the voice

you have to keep listening to.

498

That's what is so important, so

those are some of the lessons I've

499

learned, and that's really what

leads into my final question for you.

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We've had an awesome conversation

for an hour, literally, about

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all kinds of different things.

502

You've challenged me.

503

I've challenged you.

504

We have our own promises

that we have to uphold-

505

Kaneshi: Mm-hmm.

506

Joshua: But we haven't yet challenged

the listeners, so I'm going to

507

give you the final word here.

508

Here's my question.

509

What would you say to our

listeners to help challenge them?

510

What's the challenge that you put out to

them today to help them become not just

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the best versions of themselves, but

with everything that you've been through,

512

what is that one important thing that

they should hear from such an awesome,

513

talented, successful woman like yourself?

514

Kaneshi: Find an accountability partner.

515

You don't necessarily

like and hear me well.

516

It can't be a sandpaper person, right,

like you got to get along with them,

517

but when I say you don't necessarily

like, you won't like the fact that

518

they've done what I have been blessed

to have Josh do for me today: challenge.

519

That they will challenge you, that

they will not let you off the hook,

520

and why am I saying accountability,

because I can give you the normal

521

cliche answers of, "Get clear."

522

That's important.

523

I could give you the normal

cliche answer of, " Make sure

524

that you are giving your all."

525

We know all that.

526

No, I'm going to say get an

accountability partner, and it's

527

not somebody who is where you are.

528

It's somebody who's a

little bit further than you.

529

Not quite a mentor, even though they may

mentor you in a little bit of a way, but

530

the reason you need an accountability

partner who's just a little bit ahead of

531

you and you've got to figure out what that

is, and I'll give you an example, right?

532

You're starting a business.

533

This person has had a business that is

profitable, or at least generating revenue

534

for six months, or for a year, right?

535

It doesn't have to be a coach that's

had a business for 10 years and

536

they're generating six figures.

537

No.

538

That's a coach.

539

That's different.

540

Get an accountability partner, so

somebody that you are somewhat close

541

to that you're going to tell them

this is what I'm committing to, what

542

Josh has done for me today, and that

likewise, they're going to do and

543

you're going to hold them accountable.

544

It is a two way partnership, but it is

a statistic that is proven that when you

545

tell someone that you will- it's somewhere

between 92 and 98, 92 and 98 percent more

546

likely to achieve your goals if you write

it down, we all know this, tell somebody,

547

and then have that person- this is the

important part, have that person check

548

in with you to make sure you're doing it.

549

You're the 90 percentile more likely

to achieve the goal if you add

550

that, and so it's uncomfortable.

551

It is, I love what Josh said, the

voice you have to listen to, not the

552

one that says, "Oh, maybe I'm not."

553

No, you choose to listen to the

one that says, no, I committed.

554

I will.

555

You do that by you finding someone.

556

You're willing to put yourself out

there to be honest with them about

557

what you are doing, because if you

have an accountability partner, and you

558

don't tell them everything related to

what you are asking them to hold you

559

accountable for, it does you no good.

560

You're willing to be honest

and you're willing to allow

561

them to be honest with you.

562

Your feelings will be okay.

563

They'll catch up.

564

You can go cry later if

they hurt your feelings.

565

You will thank them because you'll have

cried tears of joy six months down the

566

road when you have hit your goals, right?

567

We all have feelings.

568

None of us like this, but what is

important is that there's somebody to hold

569

you accountable, to help you get to where

you want to go, and for you to do that for

570

somebody else, that would be the single

most important thing I would tell people,

571

Josh, and I would tell you, you guys, as

listeners, because that accountability

572

piece is what's so often missing from

our goal setting, our dreams, and our

573

execution, and if you will be willing

to do that, you will see an exponential

574

growth in yourself first, and in

whatever it is that you're working to do.

575

Joshua: I'm not adding anything to that.

576

That was so well said.

577

Kaneshi, we're at the end of our time,

but before we wrap up, I would like

578

to have a moment or so to say some

final words, but how can people reach

579

out to you if they're interested and

maybe talking with you some more?

580

If you want to pitch your coaching

podcast, Coaching UP podcast, I should

581

say, that's the time to do it too.

582

I would love for you to share a little bit

about that as well, in terms of how people

583

can access it, but I'm going to give

you these last few moments to do that.

584

Kaneshi: Thank you.

585

IThat i so kind and generous.

586

I just want y'all to know what amazing

podcast hosts y'all have, because

587

not every podcast host is willing

to do this, and so thank you, Josh.

588

Y'all can find me at The Connection

Collaborator on Instagram.

589

You can find me at LinkedIn.

590

My name: Kaneshi.Hart.

591

Kaneshi Hart.

592

I know when you spell that

you're going to be like, what?

593

But yes, it is Kaneshi.

594

Kaneshi Hart.

595

There is no A at the end of

my name, just so you all know.

596

Connect with me there, but yes,

come listen to the Coach UP podcast.

597

I think it's amazing.

598

Obviously, y'all have an amazing

podcast host here, and so

599

just add it to the playlist.

600

That's all.

601

Make sure Speaking From

The Heart stays in there.

602

Absolutely.

603

Oh, my goodness, because it's

going to be added to mine, and

604

so add the Coach UP podcast.

605

If you are a podcast host or you're

a small business owner, and small

606

business owner includes service based,

product base, brick and mortar, online,

607

all of that, so coaches, consultants,

all of those social media people.

608

Aqueduct people, what have you.

609

If you follow in either those categories

and you want to receive advertising

610

dollars, because you're a podcast host, or

you want to find the podcast to advertise

611

on, reach out to me and I'll be happy to

connect you, so that your business can

612

get the exposure and the marketing that

you want to the audience that you want,

613

and your podcast can be monetized, so that

is how you can find me and as Josh has

614

challenged me, as you continue to follow,

there may be coaching coming up somewhere.

615

Joshua: Oh, there will be coaching.

616

Absolutely.

617

It's just a matter of when.

618

Kaneshi: Yeah.

619

Joshua: Kanisha,e want to

take a moment to say this.

620

There's been many people, 96 episodes,

many of them monologue, many of

621

them predominantly have been guests.

622

I told Matthew Roda, which is why I

brought him up earlier, that when I

623

find the person that is leading an

authentic life just like him, that I

624

would reach out to him and let him know.

625

I found the person and I really mean that

because sometimes we don't know what it

626

means to just lead a life in which we

might have the stupidest things happen

627

for no reason whatsoever and then they're

out of our control, but there's really

628

two choices in which we have to lead.

629

It's either we get sucked into that and

we just become a funnel of negativity

630

alongside all of them, or we decide

to stand outside that box and be bold;

631

to be beautiful, and to be willing

to challenge what we are to the core,

632

because we know we have an awesome gift.

633

I promise you that when you're back

on this show, we will celebrate

634

those successes together, but until

then, Kaneshi, I really mean this.

635

Thank you for Speaking From The Heart.

636

It has been not only a tremendous

honor, but it's been a privilege

637

to hear from you today.

638

Kaneshi: Thank you.

639

Joshua: I, from the bottom of my heart,

want to thank Kaneshi Hart so much for

640

being part of this show, and being the

authentic person that she truly is,

641

because if it wasn't for this interview,

I don't think that even now, as I record

642

this a few months later after this

interview, I would have felt the feeling

643

that I have about my business, let alone

the ability to know that I can keep

644

pushing forward, because even though that

we do these episodes and we do them way

645

in advance, I try to have a little bit of

a break in between, but unfortunately, a

646

lot of things personally happened to me

after this interview that I'm not quite

647

yet ready to share with all of you, but

in episode 100, I will certainly talk

648

a little bit about it, but I will say,

to at least give you some context, that

649

Kaneshi is one of those spirited beings

on this world that I don't think she

650

even realizes her true talents and gifts,

which is why I even challenged her.

651

If I'm going to do a six figure coaching

business, I want her to do the same as

652

well, and I think that we have to be able

to learn some of the techniques that she

653

even discussed in part two that I want

to recap now, so here's a couple things

654

that I think are really interesting

about our conversation in this part.

655

First off, you have to challenge

yourself for what you have and give

656

yourself those opportunities to develop

yourself, but at the same time, which

657

I find is the most important piece of

advice, is that you should wait 48 hours

658

before you make any type of decision.

659

Now, I get it.

660

Some of you are already saying, "Josh.

661

Hello?

662

It's the real world.

663

Sometimes I don't even have two

seconds to even think about it.

664

Why do I have to wait 48 hours?", and that

is a true point, and I respect that, but

665

there are certain things that we should

really wait to do until we actually give

666

ourself a little bit of breathing room to

actually think about it, and the promise

667

is that we have to be able to learn how

to make that decision for ourselves so

668

that we are able to feel a little bit

more comfortable down the road that

669

we truly made a thought out decision.

670

How can we be an example to others through

that process, and I love the fact that

671

Kaneshi talked about a very important

subject even to me which is the whole

672

human trafficking process, specifically,

helping women that have been through sex

673

trafficking as well, because there are

a lot of things that are not covered as

674

explicit as this subject, and I think

that it's so fascinating to me that we

675

don't give this topic more consideration.

676

I know churches local to me have

discussed this subject matter with

677

their congregation and have opened it

up to the public for public dialogue

678

and solution making, but I don't think

that's enough to be able to understand

679

and make some actionable consequences

against these people that do these

680

sort of topics, so who are the people

that we need to be really speaking to?

681

What are the people that would help

us to create that catalyst in our

682

lives, especially on a subject such

as trafficking, how can we address

683

those things, but more importantly,

I think the question that underpins

684

everything in our entire lives, and

is really the underpinning of this

685

whole entire show, is about this:

what is making your heart vibrate?

686

What is making it go, thump, thump?

687

I need to tell you something that was

really pivotal about this episode in

688

itself is that even when we are talking

about in part one the importance of

689

making that connection with people, is

that we have to be able to understand

690

that those people, those very same

people, are the ones that we will

691

depend on for our very livelihood, so

when we get on social media, especially

692

with when I was talking about this

very subject with Matthew Roda back

693

in episode 26, it's not really helping

us to really have that conversation

694

with people and smack them down, make

them feel like they're not worthy,

695

make them feel like that's impossible

for them to even create that value.

696

Why spend our time with the trolls of

Facebook, Instagram, X, whatever social

697

media platform that you want to choose?

698

Why is it worthy of spending our time

doing that when we could use our time

699

to build our seven figure business?

700

Find that accountability partner.

701

Don't let it just be people that use

you as sandpaper, and I know that

702

you will easily be able to find out

who those people are because all they

703

will be looking for is this and that.

704

This and that.

705

It's almost like a clock ticking.

706

You know at what approximate time

there will be coming knocking

707

on your door wanting something a

little bit more than what they just

708

received from you previously, but

it isn't just about what you are.

709

You have rights.

710

You have abilities to create that

opportunity, and you should be able

711

to serve who you think you need to

serve, but that person that's checking

712

in on you is a little bit different.

713

They're not always

asking you for something.

714

They just want you to think a little

bit further ahead in maybe what you're

715

making as an important decision.

716

Maybe they're just checking in with

you not only for the physical well

717

being, but for the mental as well.

718

I think that I had so many people in my

life at one point that cared about me;

719

had always wondered what was going on and

especially when I dealt with my suicide

720

four years ago now, I realized that maybe

I had a lot more support than I first

721

thought, but at the same time, I also was

neglecting their willingness to help me

722

out because I was so ashamed of who I was.

723

I was not being that accountability

partner when they were

724

asking me to help them out.

725

I was the victim of creating my own

issues, so I don't look for pity.

726

Why do I share this though?

727

I know that there are people

still out there holding a grudge.

728

They're still feeling that I am some sort

of monster, and I think that the monsters

729

that we create from those experiences

can be slayed once and for all through

730

love, and after we had this conversation,

Kaneshi and I had a heart to heart

731

about what is really important, and it's

that love; that crazy undeniable love.

732

Say what you say and say it like you

mean it, because it's out of love.

733

I didn't love myself for the longest

time, and I think that when I started

734

my business, I was thinking that

maybe I could just extend myself a

735

little bit more to find that love,

but I think through this process,

736

especially of even starting my podcast,

I learned a little bit about myself.

737

Yeah, there's a lot of the

common things that we've talked

738

about: the autism diagnosis.

739

The people that I wanted to forgive.

740

The people that I knew that if I stood

up to them, maybe they would finally

741

listen to me because I had shown some self

confidence, but something has happened

742

in me over these last few months after

listening again to Kaneshi's episode

743

that I want to share with all of you that

might be helpful, especially if you're

744

struggling in this time period of not

quite knowing how to best move forward.

745

Just wait 48 hours to make any decision.

746

I waited a long time, and I even took

longer than 48 hours for that matter,

747

to make a decision of my own, which is

to finally deal with a problem that I

748

had for the longest time, and it was

actually something that was holding me

749

back, and not to get into particulars,

because on this show, I always respect

750

the confidentiality of others, I will

say that it is not just about the things

751

that we deal with at the present, but

what we ultimately deal with as problems

752

in the future if we don't decide to

address them, and I was not addressing

753

something that was the biggest monster

of them all for the longest time.

754

As a result of that, I

didn't love who I was.

755

I didn't love what I was becoming,

and I needed to find deep inside

756

myself what makes my heart vibrate,

and then I realized that the biggest

757

thing that I always wanted to do was

be able to live independently free,

758

not being able to be held back, and

knowing that if I would just accept

759

who I am and love who I was with that

crazy, undeniable feeling, I would be

760

able to achieve the ultimate success.

761

Since my interview with Kaneshi, I have

made significant strides in my business,

762

to the point that I am so proud of what

I have become, and I know that there's a

763

lot more work ahead of me, and I know that

there's a lot of things yet to do, but

764

there's something about the challenge that

Kaneshi and I made that I want her to know

765

after listening to this today, that I want

all of you to know, too after listening

766

to this amazing two part interview.

767

If we're able to live the most authentic

type of lives in which we're free of

768

the persecution, the promises that might

have been broken, and even the pursuit of

769

what we hold dear, we are able to create

an identity for ourselves that isn't

770

just about trying to find who we want to

match make with, or even find the best

771

company to work with, or even some other

reason for our own purpose of our lives.

772

If we can just say what we say and

really mean it, and just love from

773

a place in which it's crazy and

undeniable, and if we're able to make

774

a promise to each other that we will

hold each other accountable no matter

775

what that's what's really important.

776

We need to be able to connect with

each other in a way in which we

777

never thought we could connect.

778

We need to be able to focus on

what we're doing because it all

779

brings value at the end of the day.

780

We need to stop putting

the bad messages on.

781

Take that record off.

782

Stop saying that you can't do it,

because you are able to do it.

783

You are.

784

I'll give you a moment to think about

that, because it is so important for

785

you to know that it isn't just about

what is happening in the business

786

world, it's what's happening with you.

787

Do you want to be laid off three more

times before it finally settles in

788

that maybe you shouldn't be living

the life that you're living now?

789

Are you trying to bypass or

ignore the issues that you have?

790

Stop doing it.

791

You're worth it.

792

What can we do to get you help today?

793

As a coach, I want that to be the question

that you are left with, because there

794

are amazing people out there that are

doing the good work and that means that

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you should have a piece of that pie as

well, because hope is out there, and

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we need to find catalysts just like

Kaneshi is, to be able to do just that.

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If you've been waiting this whole

entire time to start your journey, now

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is the time to stop waiting, because

you've got to love yourself, in that

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crazy undeniable way, and challenge

yourself, so that you're not stuck

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in a situation such as a trafficking

problem, and find what you have to

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offer, because you have so much to offer.

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You are the example that other

people need to see, and by you not

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doing what you need to do, you're

just putting off the inevitable.

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Find your accountability partner.

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Find the person that will treat you

for who you are, because you are worth

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it, and all the success is just waiting

for you on the other side, and that

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success will not just define you.

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It will not just help you get to that

new plateau, but it will allow you to

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share what's on your heart with that

incredible love that you have to give.

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Thanks for listening to part two of

episode number 96 of Speaking from

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the Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

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