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Censorship to Celebration: Jacqueline Buckingham’s Fight for Women’s Health Advocacy
Episode 404th October 2024 • Gyno Girl Presents: Sex, Drugs & Hormones • Dr. Sameena Rahman
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Why is female anatomy still taboo? In this episode, Dr. Sameena Rahman explores breaking down shame, censorship, and the power of embracing "huge pussy energy."

Actress, entrepreneur, and creator of "Huge Pussy Energy," Jacqueline Buckingham, joins the show today to discuss the societal stigmas surrounding female anatomy and the gaps in women’s healthcare. Together, they address the deep-rooted cultural norms that associate shame with women’s bodies and how this stigma translates into real-world barriers, from menstrual health to sexual wellness.

Jacqueline shares her journey from the entertainment world to becoming a vocal advocate for women’s health and empowerment. With anecdotes about censorship and personal experiences that sparked her mission, Jacqueline emphasizes the need for equal representation and acceptance of the word "pussy" in society. 

The duo delves into how embracing one's body without shame can transform lives and why advocating for yourself is more crucial than ever in a healthcare system that often overlooks women’s pain and pleasure.

Highlights:

  1. Jacqueline discusses how her experience with censorship and how it fueled her to continue on her Huge Pussy advoacy.
  2. Dr. Sameena and Jacqueline explore the challenges of talking about female anatomy openly, even in medical settings.
  3. Cultural barriers and how societal norms around words like “pussy” impact women's health and confidence.
  4. Why the narrative around women’s bodies needs to change—from shame to celebration.
  5. The importance of closing the gender gap in healthcare and normalizing discussions around sexual health and pleasure.
  6. How embracing a “huge pussy energy” mindset can empower women to take control of their health and lives.

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JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Okay, perfect.

Sameena Rahman (:

You can just edit that out. Hey y 'all, it's me, Dr. Smeena Raman, Gyno Girl. Welcome back to another episode of Gyno Girl Presents Sex, Drugs, and Hormones. I'm super excited to have a very amazing guest with me today who's gonna talk about all things pussy and more. A lot more. Anyway, today I have Jacqueline Buckingham. You guys have heard my intro. She is an amazing advocate for women's health.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

She, I will just read a little bit more of her intro here. An actress, activist, entrepreneur, and pioneer of huge pussy energy. She's Texas raised and globally minded and really has always said she's never played by anyone's rules. I'm just gonna get right into it, because you guys heard the intro. Thank you, Jacqueline. Welcome to my podcast.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

You

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

my God, it's so great to be here. Thank you for having me. I've been so excited about this for months.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes, now we've got a little, Jacqueline just got married, so congratulations. Look at that rock. For all those of you video people that will see this, you'll see it. Beautiful. Wow, you did? wonderful. We'll have to talk offline about that. That's amazing. But I always like to ask people their journeys into when it comes to women's health advocacy or any of the work that they're doing around.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

I did about a month ago.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

There we have it. I designed it too. I did.

Sameena Rahman (:

you know, the women's health sphere and just, you know, really tried to encourage, you know, women getting, you know, the best quality of life and understanding their bodies and all the things. Tell me what brought you into the space and tell us a little bit about your history. I know that you've been in movies and TV shows and, you know, all the good things. I remember you from, gosh, Dave Chappelle's... Half -Pace, yes!

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

half baked.

Sameena Rahman (:

I'm a Dave Chappelle fan big time, so I remember you from half -baked. I have brain fog, so I couldn't remember the words. It was...

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

my God, he's amazing. That was my first, that was my first role and first audition that I'd ever done. I had just had my son. I was 21 years old. I did not know what I was doing, but I ended up getting this amazing role in what turned out to be like a cult film. And it was so much fun. And before I knew it, I was like, it was so much fun. got to, you know,

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes. I bet. I was gonna ask you how much fun was it?

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

do my own stunts, die by way of a piranha to the neck, you know, hold an electric crossbow next to...

Sameena Rahman (:

I

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

yeah, mean, yeah, like go get it. Cause it's there, it's definitely there. But like holding that electric crossbow, like next to Clarence Williams, the third from the Mod Squad in a black latex outfit, which was my own by the way, was so much fun. It was just, it was so much fun. was supposed to be like a day. turned into like a week and it was just a blast. So thanks for taking me down that memory lane.

Sameena Rahman (:

I it.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

That's it.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. What's a Dave Chappelle like?

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

he was so fun and so nice. mean, and so many people were on that. Like Willie Nelson was in it. John Stewart was in it. There were so many people. It was cool. It was a great first movie experience. Like unbelievable.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes. yeah, John Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

awesome. Well, I love, I have that memory of you, so, because I watch everything Dave Shappell

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah, so good. I mean, I think that was actually part of my journey getting here was definitely acting in films and TV and really seeing the roles and playing the roles out there for women, which was amazing. And I played, you know, fantastic, you know, kind of queens of mean and really, I mean, really like with the electric crossbow and, and

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. Great.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

very rich heiresses who were like out to conquer the world. And I love those kind of roles, absolutely. And then I started writing my own. And I produced this show for Amazon called The Box with Jacqueline. And that was one of the things that led me into where I am now because one of the sketches was called Huge Pussy. It got into film festivals all over. It's gonna be re -released next year. And one of the things was we got censored for using that word.

Sameena Rahman (:

Great.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes, yes, yes.

I'm a wonderful.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And I was like, wow, this is really crazy because yeah, no, censorship and no censorship for balls or dick of any kind, any kind whatsoever, which I'm all for that. I love balls. I love dick, like love it all. But I just want the same like equal representation for pussy. and that converged with being a mother of a daughter. I'm a mother of a son who is 28 and my daughter's 10 years younger. So it was a different experience. And I was like, gosh.

Sameena Rahman (:

I forgot.

But if you say pussy cat, it's no censorship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

You know, the world would agree with me right now if I said, hey, what you have, my son, is your parts are equated with courage and strength, but my daughter, your parts are equated with shame and dirty. So truly like that shame, I think is the biggest factor of why I'm sitting here talking to you because the bottom line is female sexuality has been associated with shame.

Sameena Rahman (:

Big a whip. Shame. Enter to you.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

for as long as really our history and beyond beyond. And it's such a different story for big dick energy, right? Where we're like proud of it, where I could be in a business meeting, yeah, and say like, hey, know, Samina, like I've got the balls to be here, I've got the balls for the job. But if I came in and I said, you know, I've got the pussy for the job, it would not be acceptable unless you were coming to get a job from me.

Sameena Rahman (:

Absolutely.

Sameena Rahman (:

lonely.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

Yeah, Big dick energy! Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Great.

Sameena Rahman (:

yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And so that really struck me in a way that was like, you know, this may seem like a small thing, but it's not. It's very global. And so raising my daughter at that time converged with my global schooling her all over the world. And we had experiences where we actually couldn't go into a temple because it said, you know, if you're having your period, you can't come in. our guide said point blank when I asked him why he was like, because it's dirty. And I said, OK, so if I'm having my period, I'm dirty.

Sameena Rahman (:

fair use.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes. Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

with my 11 year old and he goes, yeah, you're dirty. And I thought, you know, he's not trying to offend me here. This is just a cultural norm. And it really does get into healthcare. It translates into healthcare because we have such a massive gender gap in healthcare. And that's why I launched my podcast because I was like, we really have to uncover this whole part of it too. Because the more we actually know about those parts that we've

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Absolutely.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm -hmm.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

been harboring shame about whether we know it or not. The more we know, the more we actually can understand the science, the better off we are. And when we pair that with actually having like a truly what I call huge pussy energy lifestyle, which is really being proud of having a pussy, being proud of being a woman, being proud of being a woman today on this planet and

Sameena Rahman (:

Absolutely.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

you know, really defying all of that shame. Yeah. And so my whole, my whole goal, my whole mission is to shift that shame to celebration. And so that, you know, the same thing happens that happened with the word gay when I was growing up, it was a put down, it was not a compliment. And now corporate flags are waving. And I want that same thing for pussy. I want my

Sameena Rahman (:

despite everything happening in the world. Yeah, despite everything happening.

Sameena Rahman (:

Absolutely.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

you know, my kids, your kids, our grandkids, et cetera, to be celebrating Huge Pussy Day. And that's really, that's the goal, that's the mission.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes, I love it.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, I mean, think that's where you and I are so similar in trying to de -stigmatize shame in the healthcare setting. And you're absolutely right in saying that it impacts how healthcare is delivered and how women speak about their body parts, right? Because as a gynecologist who treats sexual medicine and menopausal concerns, I see it every day where people are like down there, you know, they use euphemisms and it actually like inhibits their ability to get appropriate healthcare because not everything is the vagina.

There's the vulva, there's the vestibule, there's the clitoris, there's the labia. You have to name the words. And so when I'm here in Chicago and I try to help, I try to teach my kids puberty class at school a few years ago, and I brought in my vulva puppet. And I brought it in and I showed it I was like, and the teacher was actually like, that's the first time I actually knew it was the vulva, not the vagina. Like it's radical how we look at this area and.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (08:52.813)

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

There's no other area where people or women like apologize for not shaving. I'm sorry I didn't shave down there. Like nobody cares. We've seen, I've seen thousands of pussies, right? Like doesn't.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

bother me at all, but every day I have a patient apologizing about it because of the shame. And culturally, I come from a culture of like menstrual shaming, of sex shaming and all the things. And it's one of these things where like they, know, women of color get even more in it, then because of some of these issues. But I totally agree with you. And I love Betty. Do you remember this Betty White meme that was going around for a while? Like, yeah, this is the best one.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah, exactly.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Of course, of course, absolutely. Of course. And really when you think about it, it's so true. You know, it's, it is the strongest place in the world. It is the source of where all life begins. And, you know, in a more kind of philosophical way, when we shame that we're shaming ourselves, not just as women, but as all of us, this is where we all come from. I mean, this is, this is, this is our original home.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right, the origin of life.

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

It is the home from which we all hail. And that's the thing that like, you know, having like pride for where you're from, like I'm a Texan and everybody's like, yeah, I'm from Texas and we have such Texas pride. I want us to have pussy pride, all of us, all of us, all every single person on this planet, because I think it is something that can be unifying. You know, we can disagree about so many different things, but without pussy, the world would be a very boring

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm All right.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

place.

Sameena Rahman (:

Absolutely. So true on so many levels. And the meme I'm referring to is the one where she says, why do we say grow a pair of balls? If you really can't remember the words,

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

That's right.

And she's like, about a pussy that thing can take a pounding? Yeah. yeah. She's amazing. She is, I wrote a rap in one of the short films I did and she's in there. She is, yeah, she made it in the lyrics for sure. Absolutely. There's a lot of pussy pioneers out there and I'm so happy to be, you know, really at the forefront and with them.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, exactly.

Sameena Rahman (:

Rest her soul.

Sameena Rahman (:

really?

How awesome.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

because I'm most certainly not alone in it. And I've learned so much from my guests on Clitorology, right? Like that show, my podcast, is really all about opening the conversation to close the gender gap in healthcare. And that's because the more we say something, whether it's pussy or vagina or vulva or vestibule or labia, whatever it is, the more we say it, the more it becomes normalized. And that's why I'm so thrilled about

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

everybody that's been on my podcast, you including, because we're doing that like in a couple of weeks, but I've learned so much, you know, from like Rachel Rubin, for example, who has taught me that when she was in medical school, they taught her like, hey, don't ask about the clitoris because we don't want to make the woman feel uncomfortable. And the clitoris was not even in medical textbooks. So it was taught to be avoided.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes, absolutely.

Sameena Rahman (:

No.

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And that's the thing that we can really harness in our culture today is to go, you know what, that's really, that's really silly. And

Sameena Rahman (:

Right, the only organ for pleasure, like don't talk about it. For female pleasure, I just said.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Like don't talk about it, right? Like that's supposed to make us feel uncomfortable. Like I'm pretty sure that's the thing that's supposed to make us feel great. So let's definitely talk about it and let's make it a priority and let's make our health a priority and let's make knowing about our parts a priority too.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right, right.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right.

Sameena Rahman (:

Absolutely. And I think it speaks to even volumes about how even like, you know, women's pleasure isn't, you know, sort of at the forefront of any.

issue, right? And women's suffering is actually accepted, right? I think last year at the menopause conference, we had Sue Dominister, who wrote the article about, you know, women are misled about menopause. And that was one of the things she said that she really found to be so significant as that as a culture, we accept women's suffering across the board, across the board, you know, and I can say as a gynecologist, like I trained in a patriarchal society, I mean, in a patriarchal setup, right? We're like, you know, people are

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Absolutely, absolutely.

Sameena Rahman (:

like, you're, I mean, before I became really like into sexual medicine and menopause 10 years ago, of course, you know, we were told that the cervix didn't have nerve endings. Don't, you don't have to use anything for IUD, IUD insertions. don't look at the, you know, these things that are just like accepted part of, you know, women's pain and suffering.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Right.

Yeah, that has become absolutely normalized and that must stop. And I do believe that stops like one woman at a time. So if one woman speaks up, what's coming to mind is Chelsea Leland, who was on my podcast and she's an amazing advocate for.

Sameena Rahman (:

you

Sameena Rahman (:

So.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

endometriosis and has a phenomenal product called loony and has a whole community. And, you know, that's something that we spoke about at length was just how normal it was. How many times she got sent away and all the people in her community got sent away was just like, you know what, it's just going to be painful, honey, you know, just guess you got a grin and bear it. And that's not right. It's absolutely not right. It should be like, no, let's find the source of this problem.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm -hmm. Suck. Yeah. Mm.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, absolutely. And I think once the conversation is normalized, then maybe people start investing in women, right? Start investing in their research. Like, I think that's something that we're still lacking. And that's why... Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

yes. mean, Lisa Musconi talks about that at length. You know, she wrote the female brain and neuroscientist, right, the menopause brain and amazing researcher and advocate and her.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

rates. The men was brain.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Her data is really harrowing when it comes to the funding. But you know, people are changing that too. Like not all on the the downside, but like on the upside, Halle Berry, like, hi, yes, amazing. Her advocacy, you know, being out there really talking about, hey, this is super important. That's changing things.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

going in the

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And the more of us that are out there talking about this, the faster it can happen. And the better things can be for ourselves, for our daughters, for our friends, for our moms, and honestly, for all of the men in our lives that benefit from our pussies feeling great.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, absolutely. No, and I mean, that's truly like if you ever like read about or even talk to Dr. Erwin Goldstein, who started really the field of female sexual medicine. He's one of the mentors and someone that I precepted with and, you know, he talks about how he was on the original Biagra paper and he was the one that helped bring it to the forefront.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

And the reason female sexual medicine sort of even started getting evolved was because, you know, who are these people having sex with? Usually other women. And these women were like, what about us? Like, who's going to help our painful sex or our issues? And so, you know, that's what it was.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Go.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah, absolutely. Well, shout out to, you know, Addie, right? Developed by amazing, you know, pink Cindy, right? And, she, right. She was like, Viagra got approved in like six weeks and it took her about six years. but she did it and she got it done. And I'm so thrilled that.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes, she's awesome.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right. Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

she's bringing up, think, a really important point, which isn't just like, you know, how's your health? The question that she asks is, are you satisfied?

Sameena Rahman (:

Are you satisfied? Or what's pleasure look like for you, right?

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah, and that's such a question that's like, no one's, like no one's ever, has anyone ever asked you, are you satisfied?

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. All right. Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Like that's like, I like stopped dead in my tracks when she said that. It was like, my God, wow, wow. So that, I want that to be the norm though. I want that to be the norm where we're like, you know what? No, I'm not satisfied. I'm gonna go, you know, go get this, this, whether it's a procedure or a.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Yeah. Figure it out.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

tool or a doctor's visit, whatever it is. Maybe it's just a set of questions. Maybe it is investing in your huge pussy energy, for example, which would be like working with me.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm -hmm. Yeah. So tell me what you guys are doing over at Huge Pussy. What are some of the things that you guys are up to over there?

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah. So a few things are, I am working with women again individually. And that is something that I've been, I've been really excited about doing, but needed to really create the space for. And I think in talking with so many of the doctors like yourself, it's like, my God, so many women out here have gone through a lot of trauma and are struggling to get that back. maybe you fixed the medical thing, right?

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

But then there's the emotional thing. There's the lifestyle piece of getting your life back. And we don't really have a word for what that means. Absolutely. The word I'm pioneering is huge pussy energy. And I don't think there's any other word that encapsulates what that means, but it does mean that you're creating your own rules. And so my rules may not be the same as your rules, but I coach women who

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

want to be more in control of their lives. And they may be already a lot in control of their lives, but they want to be more so. They could seem like they're completely in control of everything, but there is a part of all of us that has that shame that's been holding us back, whether we know it or not. And my work with individuals and now with groups is in pinpointing that, uncovering it.

And that's how you make change. You make change by really understanding, hey, this has been kind of laying around in the back of your closet, kind of stinking the whole place up. Let's take it out and let's transform it. You know, really, it's like the phoenix rising from the ashes in a way where I look at any kind of pain that we go through as power, because that is, it's raw material.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. Yep.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right?

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

So I look at it as like a ball of clay. Everybody's given a ball of clay. We're all given something that we've got to transform from the negative to the positive, but we get to use that. So that's the most inspiring thing. And the thing I love to do the most is help women take that thing that's held them down and let it be that thing that rises them up because huge pussy energy rises together.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And the more we are together, and this is why I'm now doing groups, because the more we can support each other in it, the better. my God, the better. So I'm really, really excited about that. That is kind of first and foremost for me. And then season three of Clitorology is coming out on October 3rd. And I'm thrilled about that. Actually, we kick it off with Cindy. And we kick it off with.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

Sameena Rahman (:

Awesome.

Sameena Rahman (:

I love it.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

with women's pleasure and really prioritizing that. And that's really the theme this season. I've got some phenomenal guests and I think we're really talking more about advocacy in a way that is overt. Anoushe Hossain is one of my guests and she is such a powerhouse for women's rights in terms of what women have gone through, especially women of color in reproduction.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Season three is coming up and you can find that at Clitorology. And then in addition to that, I've got a series of films coming out. And that is kind of my first love. My creative juices get to be all sorts of inappropriate and wrong. I call it raunchy for a reason. And so I am releasing a film that is coming up like really just in a couple months. So please.

Sameena Rahman (:

Bye!

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Please follow my, all of my socials, which I know are gonna be on here. Yes, but it's like Jacqueline like Kennedy, Buckingham like the palace. Is that how I tell people to remember it and then they know how to spell it. And then obviously Clitorology is the show. And then actually with Huge Pussy, it was a little bit of a long road.

Sameena Rahman (:

And it'll be in all of the show notes, yep.

Sameena Rahman (:

that's great deal. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Amazing. Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

but my Instagram was actually seized by a certain company because of the name Pussy and I just got it back. So huge win there and yeah. so no, it wasn't. It was that I had it kind of actually I've had to be a little bit of, mean.

Sameena Rahman (:

me

Sameena Rahman (:

What? I actually wondered because I hadn't seen you post in a while. So was like, I thought it was the wedding thing. my God.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Like I've been kicked off so many things so many times, whether it's Amazon or Google, like I can't advertise anywhere. And actually that's what one of the films is about. It's the story of being censored and how more companies now are becoming aware of that and really joining the huge pussy energy force. becoming aware of it and changing their policies. So that's exciting. And so that Instagram handle is at

Sameena Rahman (:

I don't know.

Sameena Rahman (:

Amazing.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

the huge life. So that's T -H -E -H -U -G -E -L -I -F -E. So at the huge life. And that's really everything, huge pussy energy. And I'm just, I'm so happy that that's back.

Sameena Rahman (:

That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, this censorship thing is a big deal because you know, you can't say the word vagina, you can't say any word around vagina. And then even sex, sometimes if you put sex in your notes, they get censored. It's insane. Actually, you can say all day long.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

That's right. Exactly. No, it is, it, really is amazingly backwards and it does set us back in a way that is not right. this is actually why I'm, I'm moving kind of all of my stuff over to a brand new YouTube channel and I'll give you this one too. It has not launched yet. It's launching in a couple of weeks, but the great thing is, is, YouTube has been really supportive.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Okay.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

of everything. They have not censored us in any way. They haven't censored any of my short films, which are, they're feminist films. I mean, they are really in a world where like calling somebody a pussy is a compliment, right? In a world where buying heavy flow tampons is like the sexiest turn on, right? Ever. It's, they are, you know, they're fun and those got censored. And so,

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

We've moved from Amazon over to YouTube and are actually working with their kind of whole advocacy arm. And I'm thrilled to have their support in that because one of my other things is I've got a foundation and that foundation supports other female filmmakers who have been censored in their countries. Because the fact of the matter, thanks, yeah. So I'm excited, we're doing some new ones and just stay following because that one.

Sameena Rahman (:

wow, that's amazing.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

is actually going to be global. I was just traveling all over Europe and created some great partnerships. And this next film is going to have voices from women all over the world. And it's women who have been censored. I'd love for you to be a part of it. So many of the people who have been on my podcast are part of it. But this is something where it is, the more voices, the better. It's most definitely activist in nature.

Sameena Rahman (:

wow.

Yeah. that's good.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

and it's there to really uplift us.

Sameena Rahman (:

Wow, that sounds great. Yeah, I'd to be a part of it and you know I'm happy that you're doing it because that's amazing to get sort of a worldwide view on that and and You know, it's just it's just awful that you can't even like advocate

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

for your own, like, I'll tell you a side story that when I took my kids to see Barbie, like, you know, last summer. And so at the time, I think I've told this story on this podcast before, but at the time my daughter was four, my other daughter was 12. And you know, there's that scene where Margot Robbie says, I don't have a vagina and he doesn't have a penis. And my four year old blarts out, but mommy, we have vaginas, right?

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yes! my God, I love it so much. I love it so much.

Sameena Rahman (:

And, but it's interesting because there was a lady that approached me at the end and she's like, I heard your daughter and like, what's, and I'm like, if you're okay teaching your kid a nose, you should be okay teaching them what the other body part is that, you know, is the giver of life. Like you say, like it is.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

That's right.

That's right. At the bottom line, these are parts. Like really, truly these are parts. These are like our physical parts that make us up. There shouldn't be any kind of stigma around any of them, any more for our wrist than like you said, our nose. It is a part. That's what it is. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes. And it's just, and like I said, it does, it inhibits people's diagnoses and healthcare and everything. And so it becomes a big barrier at the end of the day.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

Yeah, it really does. It really, really does. It's amazing. I'm so happy though to know that story because your daughter is at the forefront. She's at the forefront of changing things, right? She could, people could have heard, right? There could have been other people who heard her, right? Like the other lady or other, yeah, everyone heard her and look at how that's changed. And that's because of you. I mean, it really is like the microcosm of the macrocosm, the more

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

She said it very loudly, a four -year -old.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

you shift things for everybody in your whole sphere. Anybody who even comes within, you know, an inch of your entire aura gets that feeling. And I mean, I, I think it's huge. I always say like, I always say big is not big enough. size does matter. And there is a reason people have been like, why huge? Why huge? And I'm like,

Sameena Rahman (:

some big pussy energy. Huge, I'm sorry, huge pussy. Yeah, it's huge. Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Okay, let me just tell you why. Because size does matter. We've been encouraged to be small. It's been like glorified to be diminutive, to be tiny. And we've got to be loud. We've got to be bold. We've got to live large. We've got to take up space. And we've got to make up our own revolutionary rules. Period.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

It's so interesting, just like you're saying this whole huge thing, patients are always like, when they have painful sex, I think it's because he's too big, or maybe I'm just really tiny. They say it with pride that I have a very tight vagina or a very tiny vagina, and you're just like, mine is gaping. I've had three kids, okay? And so I can't even hold my urine, which is another story.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah. Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Ha ha!

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

you know what, why isn't, why isn't that a sign of, of like, you know, bravado in some way? Like why, why couldn't it be right? Like I've sneezed and peed. Like, why can't that be like, wow, I've gotten to the point where. Like, yes, I have. Yeah. You know what? Like, right. Like why not? I mean, yeah, of course there's all these things that we can do and we definitely talk about all those on my show. And so.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

I can't even hold my urine.

I my ears.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Hooray that there's all of those things. also, also I think it's good to ask ourselves the question, why should I be feeling shame about whether there's blood coming out of me, whether the blood has stopped coming out of me, whether the pee's coming out of the right at an opportune or inopportune time. Any of this stuff is just honestly, it is functions of parts. And that's all it is. It's like, should I come in and apologize because like,

Sameena Rahman (:

the treatment.

Sameena Rahman (:

Right.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

the carburetor on my car is like not working? Like, no, I'd be like, can you fix this? Or maybe I like it this way. I don't know, whatever.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, no, it's but yeah, cuz I mean, you know, you're always I'm always so like when I don't do obstetrics anymore But when I did it was like when someone pushed out a ten pounder you were like damn. That's some huge

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Thank you. Well, it, is like it really truly is. you know, who, who is telling me about like the, you know, period pain and basically like, I don't know, they did some kind of a study where like if men had the period pain and they were like, no, I can't go to work. And it was like, okay, it just imagine if that is childbirth, right? Or imagine if that is any of what we go through with our reproductive

Sameena Rahman (:

Thank you.

Sameena Rahman (:

yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

Sameena Rahman (30:21.644)

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

my God, all of it should just be put up on a pedestal. To me, all of it. We should have vulva sculptures. We should have just, you know, vaginas everywhere. We should have fountains with blood.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah. you need to check out, I'm gonna send you a picture of my Volvo wall that I created. So last week I celebrated 10 years in private practice and I created a huge Volvo wall. No, I gotta show you the picture. You're gonna love it. I'll text it to you. And I'm gonna have...

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Stop.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

my God, I love it.

Sameena Rahman (:

My producer put a picture of it, but it's a huge wall. It looks like a vulva. It's similar to one that Gwyneth Paltrow did like three or four years ago, but on a smaller scale because, you yeah. And so everyone, everyone was in love with my vulva. They were like, I love this wall. I'm like, my God, thank you. My vulva loves you too.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

my God, so fun. So fun.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

my God, I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see it. What a cool thing to do. I love that idea.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, yeah, and so and then my husband's like what do you think this ball is gonna offend my other patients that come in for the pain practice he has a pain practice and I was like first of all I don't think most people are gonna be like what's the ball doing up here but No, I don't think so because you can put up a you know you put up your skeleton of your spine

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Right.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Thank you, exactly, exactly. Yeah, actually I did an art series which involved menstrual blood and vulva photos as well. And it was really fun and empowering, I have to say. It was part of a workshop I was leading, which was about basically becoming the object of your own desire.

Sameena Rahman (:

guess you're going to love it.

Sameena Rahman (:

Thanks

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

and taking an image of yourself, which wasn't for anybody else, but that kind of showed you, this is the strongest part of me. And it goes back to like our earliest form of the female figure, which is the Venus of Illendorf in Austria. I was just there and saw her and she's this big and she's all orbs.

Sameena Rahman (:

Sameena Rahman (32:13.802)

Yes.

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah, yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And she's the first representation of a human and she is the object of her own desire because she was a fertility figure. So a woman created that in her mind's eye of herself because she wanted to bring life. So she is all breasts and ass and pussy. And that's it. And it's so good. it's so good. I love her so much. And I incorporated that into a workshop, which was really, which was really cool.

Sameena Rahman (:

That's.

Sameena Rahman (:

That's awesome.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Very cool. Yeah.

Sameena Rahman (:

I just want to, before we go, just want to go back and talk about one aspect that you talked about when you do this coaching is like really like understanding pleasure. And I see this all the time in my patients who have a known biologic cause for either like sexual pain or pelvic pain or whatever. And we've actually cured it, but they've lived with it for their whole life, whether or not it's vestibulodymia or, you know, vaginismus, floor, overactive pelvic floor, that kind of thing. But once they're actually kind of

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Right.

Sameena Rahman (:

from a biologic perspective, they've been living with pain for so long. We always say the absence of pain is not pleasure. It's really trying to figure out how to get them to a point of pleasure again, right? And so I think it's understanding like all the senses and all the other things that bring them pleasure, but it's something that no one ever talks about is like, you are actually from my perspective when I do your exam pain free, but you can't see that because you've been living in this pain paradigm your whole life.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Hmm.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Huh.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

night.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

wow. That is very heavy hitting for me when you just said that pain paradigm for your whole life. How important that is to shift that to living in your pleasure paradigm.

Sameena Rahman (:

And I think that's where the stuff that you're doing is so important and really tags team with people like me in the sex med space is that, you know, I like, yeah, I got you from that perspective and you know, sex therapist and other things, but there's a coaching that has to happen too. Like a level of like really you understanding that it's okay for you to feel pleasure now. Like it's okay. Like you're not gonna.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Exactly. Exactly. That's a, it is, it's a hurdle that is that I think so many women have this big wall. right? Like they're like, my God, I can't, I can't, I can't. And that's the goal, right? That's the goal in, in the coaching is really to identify that what that's about. And once you do, then you can start chipping away at it. Once you get over on the other side of the wall,

Sameena Rahman (:

Mm

Sameena Rahman (:

Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

That's like the point of no return because then you don't want to go back there You don't want to go back to that pain paradigm because it really doesn't do any good for anybody else Right. It's not doing any good for your daughters or your mom or your friends or your husband or your boyfriend or whatever your girlfriend or you know whomever is in your life your dry cleaner like it's the happier we are

Sameena Rahman (:

Yeah.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

the better we are to be around, the more joy we create, right? The more productivity. And that is what we need more than ever.

Sameena Rahman (:

Well, I think that's a great way to kind sum this up because what you're saying is just speaks volumes to so many of the people that I treat and that I know that you help. And so I'm all about the huge pussy energy. I want to get some huge pussy stuff for me.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Well, please go to hugepussy .org. That's H -U -G -E -P -U -S -S -Y .org. And all the merch is there. We are a philanthropic product line, so you can see where, you know, partial proceeds are going. And we've got some new things. We've got some sold out things. But we're really excited about just...

Sameena Rahman (:

you.

Sameena Rahman (:

I can wait. Yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

all of our products, they've changed my life, most definitely. I always have my mug, and that's how I start my day, and I can't imagine my life without it. Honestly, these to me are a reminder. It's a reminder. It's so easy to go out in the world. Yes, clitoris necklace. Ooh, that's so good. Is that by that artist? Yes, I love her. so awesome. Yeah, so.

Sameena Rahman (:

and

Sameena Rahman (:

I'm not yet.

Sameena Rahman (:

I wear my clitoris on my neck every day.

Sameena Rahman (:

Sophia Wallace, yes.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

And send me, anybody can reach me via DM on my Instagram, which is at Jack Willen Buckingham, that's J -A -C -Q -U -E -L -I -N -E, Buckingham, like the palace, and send me a DM, and that's the best way to talk to me about coaching.

Sameena Rahman (:

I it. And this is all in me and the show notes that my producer writes up as well. So thank you, Jacqueline Buckingham. You're amazing. I can't wait to be on your podcast in a few weeks. I love everything you do. I love the huge pussy energy. And I hope that it becomes really a global phenomenon. And happy to help you in that endeavor any way possible.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

I know me too.

JACQUELINE BUCKINGHAM (:

Thank you.

Sameena Rahman (:

Thank you for joining me today. For those of you listening and watching, I'm Dr. Samina Rahman, Gyno Girl. I'm here to educate so you could advocate for yourself. This is Gyno Girl Presents Sex, Drugs and Hormones. Please join me next week for another episode.

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