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Greetings, this is Mike Graen. Welcome to another
Mike Graen:edition of the Walton Supply Chain Center, focusing on on
Mike Graen:shelf availability. Today, I get the chance to kind of share my
Mike Graen:ideas and my thoughts on the state of the industry as it
Mike Graen:relates to on shelf availability. I've got a couple
Mike Graen:of clips from this year's particular podcast. But really
Mike Graen:it's focusing on what are the different people processes and
Mike Graen:technology to be able to look at on shelf availability and make
Mike Graen:improvements. Let's get started.
Matt Pfeiffer:All right, well, good afternoon, everyone. It's a
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Mike Graen:Awesome. Well, Matt, thank you very much. Good
Mike Graen:afternoon to everybody who is on the podcast. Matt doesn't like
Mike Graen:to call it a podcast, you'd like to call it a conversation. And
Mike Graen:it's it is certainly good to be back with you guys. Again, Matt,
Mike Graen:we've kind of been reflected on this to make it a conversation,
Mike Graen:I think it's going to be you and I having a conversation as we
Mike Graen:sort of work through these various topics. And the folks on
Mike Graen:the line, please, we encourage you, if you have any questions
Mike Graen:at all, to go in there, raise your hand and ask it via the q&a
Mike Graen:chat function. And Matt will be able to secure those and forward
Mike Graen:on through. So first and foremost, we've been doing this
Mike Graen:for about a year. And what I thought I'd do is we begin the
Mike Graen:second year of going into these topics we've talked about a lot
Mike Graen:of interesting things about on-shelf availability, a lot
Mike Graen:more research has come out post COVID. So I'm going to kind of
Mike Graen:update you on some of those kinds of activities. And also
Mike Graen:some new capabilities have become available. So we want to
Mike Graen:definitely jump into this and start to talk a little bit of
Mike Graen:what what the opportunities are. The good news is for those
Mike Graen:people who are trying to solve the on-shelf of availability
Mike Graen:problem, it's still out there. We had a breakfast this morning
Mike Graen:and we talked a little bit about on-shelf availability. And one
Mike Graen:of the guys who has been in retail for a long time said the
Mike Graen:great thing about OSA is it was here 50, 60, 70 years ago and
Mike Graen:it'll be here 70 years later. It's something you're always
Mike Graen:working on. It's things you're trying to continue to improve to
Mike Graen:make sure that you have product available for the customer. So
Mike Graen:what do you, one of the things that we're going to start with
Mike Graen:is basically, I love this Sam Walton quote he did this one
Mike Graen:years ago, Doug McMillon from Walmart has a similar quote, but
Mike Graen:it's there's only one boss the customer and they can fire
Mike Graen:everyone in company from the chairman on down simply by
Mike Graen:spending his or her money somewhere else. And I think
Mike Graen:that's very well said back when Sam Walton was running retail.
Mike Graen:And it's still this case today, customers have more choices than
Mike Graen:ever, everybody's walking around with basically a computer in
Mike Graen:their hand where they can literally order stuff anytime
Mike Graen:they want to and have it delivered to their house. So the
Mike Graen:power is really in the customer, whether they're brand loyal or
Mike Graen:retailer loyal, they have choices that they can go to. So
Mike Graen:the the the other piece of this is, I think the other piece that
Mike Graen:I think is really important is some facts that were produced by
Mike Graen:the IHL group. Some of you may have seen this before. But some
Mike Graen:of these sound bites are really, really important. From my
Mike Graen:perspective, retailers are missing out on a trillion
Mike Graen:dollars in sales, a trillion dollars in sales, Amazon Prime
Mike Graen:customers facing empty shells are 52% more likely than other
Mike Graen:consumers to take out their phones and buy what they need
Mike Graen:online. I don't know about you, but I've been a victim of that
Mike Graen:I've gone into stores tried to buy something, it's not there, a
Mike Graen:specific printer cartridge or something specifically, you
Mike Graen:know, a specific item that I'm looking for, they don't have, I
Mike Graen:am very, very apt to pull out my phone and use that cut that
Mike Graen:retailers Wi Fi to order that product from an Amazon or
Mike Graen:somebody else. So basically using the retailer Wi Fi to
Mike Graen:order from a competitor, I'm not proud of it. But I came all the
Mike Graen:way to the store to get it I gotta have that particular
Mike Graen:product, it's really necessary for what I'm trying to do in the
Mike Graen:last ones 24% of Amazon's curve retail growth came from, from
Mike Graen:customers who tried to buy it in a store first, I think those are
Mike Graen:pretty amazing. A couple of things that I think are also
Mike Graen:true, these are this is relatively new from Shopkick uh
Mike Graen:Shopkick. chain store age is 81% of the shoppers have noticed
Mike Graen:more shelves are out of stock or lower stock than usual
Mike Graen:retailers. And if you're a few years ago, when when you start
Mike Graen:to highlight some of the areas Oops, I'm sorry. There we go, we
Mike Graen:can start to to unpack a little bit about what those particular
Mike Graen:items are. You see things like meat products, dairy products,
Mike Graen:box food, canned foods, etc. You also see what I kind of
Mike Graen:mentioned before, which is brand loyalty is wavering 65% of the
Mike Graen:consumer said they would buy the next best option. If their go to
Mike Graen:brands are sold out and low stock and 59 said uh 59% said
Mike Graen:they would be willing to go to a new brand and do it regularly. I
Mike Graen:am not a shopper, consumer shopper expert, there are people
Mike Graen:on the line like our friends of field agent that are better at
Mike Graen:doing this kind of research for sure. But I'm sure this varies
Mike Graen:by category. But the bottom line, it goes back to the
Mike Graen:customer go back to Sam Walton is good. They're ultimately the
Mike Graen:boss, they're going to choose to get what they want where they
Mike Graen:want it. And, you know, if we don't have it available for
Mike Graen:them, they'll have they'll find another options. So one of the
Mike Graen:things that I wanted to ask you, which is you know, this
Mike Graen:particular picture here, we'll talk a little bit about Walmart,
Mike Graen:because we're both kind of know, you know, have some experience
Mike Graen:working at Walmart working with the CPG suppliers who work with
Mike Graen:Walmart, etc. But as you look at this picture, there's there's a
Mike Graen:lady obviously leaving the store, when you think about this
Mike Graen:thing called Walmart, what do you think about?
Matt Pfeiffer:The place that I can go to buy almost anything
Matt Pfeiffer:that I need.
Mike Graen:Almost anything that you need? Exactly right. And I
Mike Graen:think for years, that's what it has been in most retailers,
Mike Graen:retailers have been, I would also argue that it's also
Mike Graen:becoming a fulfillment center. Because you have and I remember
Mike Graen:the statistics, that was something like 90-95% of the US
Mike Graen:population lives within 10 miles of a Walmart store. That's
Mike Graen:pretty hard to beat. So literally, it's not I get to
Mike Graen:order it and I get it in two days, I literally can order it
Mike Graen:and get it within hours, okay. And being able to be both a
Mike Graen:traditional retail store and a fulfillment center that allows
Mike Graen:you to digitally order product where you want it, etc. And
Mike Graen:they're not the only ones. All of these footprints all these
Mike Graen:retailers have many many more of the same thing. So customers
Mike Graen:shoppers have more choices than ever retailers have had continue
Mike Graen:to have issues with on shelf availability and supply chain
Mike Graen:and things like that. And what this is this particular
Mike Graen:conference is all about - or discussion is to talk about what
Mike Graen:are some of the ways you could A measure it and B improve it. A
Mike Graen:couple of other more sound bites here. This is something from
Mike Graen:from the E-marketer folks, I've shared this in a previous
Mike Graen:conference as well. These are the percentage of retail sales
Mike Graen:that are being done through an E commerce platform. And you see
Mike Graen:it's only 15% of the total U.S. our total business but in some
Mike Graen:of these categories like apparel, it's almost 38% You see
Mike Graen:toys and hobby you see 45% books music video, obviously that's a
Mike Graen:big one with 69. So these particular things people are
Mike Graen:using digital tools to do either research online and picking it
Mike Graen:up in store or buy it online or picking it up in store or refuse
Mike Graen:to fill it ordering it online and having it delivered to your
Mike Graen:home. And this is a this is a graph that we used a while back,
Mike Graen:which shows just the retailers and how their growth is. And
Mike Graen:this happened to be in the electronics category. But now
Mike Graen:you see this big blue line here. Any idea what that big blue line
Mike Graen:is which is going from 9.3 to 41.26. Looks a lot like Amazon.
Mike Graen:Sure does it. It looks like a lot of other retailers are
Mike Graen:growing in the electronics category as well. But not nearly
Mike Graen:as fast as Amazon. So the question becomes, okay, how do
Mike Graen:you how do you compete with a fulfillment, which is something
Mike Graen:like Amazon which have that brought a sore bed, I would
Mike Graen:argue, really, really simple user interface. If my father
Mike Graen:who's 85 can order stuff on Amazon and have it delivered his
Mike Graen:home. When he struggles with basic email and texting
Mike Graen:sometimes. There's their their site is certainly very easy to
Mike Graen:navigate. And they obviously have a convenience factor as
Mike Graen:well. So that's that's the thing, you got to have it on
Mike Graen:shelf, these particular stores are becoming fulfillment
Mike Graen:centers. Now, here's a couple of things that I think it'd be
Mike Graen:interesting, Matt, we've got a we got a video of a screen
Mike Graen:snapshot of target with Wrangler Jeans. And then I've got the
Mike Graen:same thing from a few years ago from Walmart. So this one's the
Mike Graen:target one. That one's the Walmart one you see anything
Mike Graen:different about the two? At Walmart?
Matt Pfeiffer:Yep. The high price difference jumps out.
Mike Graen:Okay, so targets at $19.99. Walmart's at $18.87.
Mike Graen:Yep. Anything else that you see that jumps out as a big ah-hah
Mike Graen:or difference?
Matt Pfeiffer:Looks like Target, you can pick it up at a
Matt Pfeiffer:local store, or have it shipped.
Mike Graen:Correct. They have this option here, which is you
Mike Graen:can pick it up. So if I go back to the Walmart and Walmart has
Mike Graen:changed since this, this particular thing was done, but
Mike Graen:but they say we'll basically put it in a box and we'll mail it to
Mike Graen:you. You'll get it in two days. Target saying yeah, we'll do
Mike Graen:we'll ship it to you in two days. But we also only got three
Mike Graen:left. This is a term called bogus buy online pick up in
Mike Graen:store. And so for sure, one of the things that we're going to
Mike Graen:want to be able to do is to be able to have that part of that
Mike Graen:particular product available. Melissa just said better images
Mike Graen:on target. And I agree with that as well. So some some of the
Mike Graen:images were quality. The big thing I wanted to do here
Mike Graen:though, is definitely highlight the ability to pick up online.
Mike Graen:I've got a I'm gonna switch this to, to something that I think
Mike Graen:will be interesting for folks to see, which is bulbous is
Mike Graen:continuing to grow. And I'm gonna let we did a podcast
Mike Graen:probably several months ago with Dr. Bill Hardgrave. He's kind of
Mike Graen:the industry leader with online, buy up, buy online pick up in
Mike Graen:store. He was at the University of Arkansas then he was at
Mike Graen:Auburn. He's now the president of the University of Memphis,
Mike Graen:but very much a retail expert. He's going to talk a little bit
Mike Graen:about what some of the research is that he's personally done in
Mike Graen:the buy online pick up in store area.
Bill Hardgrave:Pre-pandemic. Yeah, know retailers kind of
Bill Hardgrave:looked at both was kind of as a nice to have, like, Yeah, I
Bill Hardgrave:mean, you will offer it as a consumers. For the pandemic, it
Bill Hardgrave:became a lifeline, a lot of retailers. And many retailers
Bill Hardgrave:were absolutely not prepared for that. What I would do is knowing
Bill Hardgrave:that, that we had, they were they were executed poorly, I
Bill Hardgrave:would get here's how I would, here's why I do it after I
Bill Hardgrave:started realizing this is really bad. So I would go into the
Bill Hardgrave:store. And I would have my mobile device, I'd make sure I
Bill Hardgrave:wasn't on the Wi Fi. I wasn't using their app, so they didn't
Bill Hardgrave:know who I was. And they didn't know I was in the store, right.
Bill Hardgrave:And I would literally stand in front of a shelf, looking at the
Bill Hardgrave:product, and go online and say I'd like to buy this and pick it
Bill Hardgrave:up in store. And I'm standing there looking at the product.
Bill Hardgrave:And I saw I'll share with you some of the things that I got.
Bill Hardgrave:For example, in apparel. I'm standing here I'm looking at
Bill Hardgrave:there's five on the shelf on my mobile device that says sorry,
Bill Hardgrave:this product is unavailable at this location. I'm looking at
Bill Hardgrave:their store on the shelf. Online, it says there's one
Bill Hardgrave:left. Now there's another apparel item you're looking at.
Bill Hardgrave:There's three of them on the shelf. Online, it says it's out
Bill Hardgrave:of stock. Well another one I'm looking at it, there's nine on
Bill Hardgrave:the shelf. It doesn't even appear on their website. So Mike
Bill Hardgrave:that that I just want to share with you that's just a that's
Bill Hardgrave:just a handful that I've got. I've got tons of these where
Bill Hardgrave:it's like this is this is such poor execution, that you're that
Bill Hardgrave:you're leaving money or the retailers are leaving money on
Bill Hardgrave:the table. Yes, it's a combination of factors. The
Bill Hardgrave:biggest one, I believe, is that they simply don't know what they
Bill Hardgrave:have in store and they just don't have any confidence in
Bill Hardgrave:what they have in store. So when they don't, when you don't have
Bill Hardgrave:confidence, you do a couple of things, but either you just
Bill Hardgrave:completely hide it. Right? And so you just say, Oh, that's not
Bill Hardgrave:available, right? Or you don't even put it on the website to
Bill Hardgrave:even make it an option.
Mike Graen:We got a couple of questions in here. The first
Mike Graen:question, I think - oh sorry, wasn't a question - Melissa was
Mike Graen:answering the question around the better images of Target.
Mike Graen:Sorry about that. I think we've already answered that one. All
Mike Graen:right. So all right. So customers ultimately are the
Mike Graen:boss, they're gonna get the product when they want.
Mike Graen:Retailers are becoming more fulfillment centers, in terms of
Mike Graen:buy online, pick up in-store and be able to do things like that.
Mike Graen:So what are the causes of product not being unavailable.
Mike Graen:And there seems to be about three is the research I've done
Mike Graen:number one, store operations, number two, the supply chain,
Mike Graen:and number three, something who we're going to call on hand
Mike Graen:accuracy. And we've got some potential solutions for each one
Mike Graen:of those. Let's do a talk through store operations first.
Mike Graen:And Matt, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you some questions on this.
Mike Graen:So we've got a shelf here, I went to take to a local store
Mike Graen:took a picture of a shelf, and then I matched that shelf up to
Mike Graen:I guess what should have been there. So from an obvious casual
Mike Graen:observer from a customer perspective, as you go into
Mike Graen:this, do you see anything majorly wrong? Or any kind of on
Mike Graen:shelf availability issues? With this shelf?
Matt Pfeiffer:Yeah, sure. That one one item, obviously, out of
Matt Pfeiffer:stock dead center,
Mike Graen:dead center. Yep. So that's the that's the first one
Mike Graen:you see, that's the one most people will go to. So you see
Mike Graen:the shelf tag, you see no product, you obviously say
Mike Graen:there's an out of stock, any other thing and things that jump
Mike Graen:out yet as issues that are with us?
Matt Pfeiffer:Yeah, it looks like another out of stock on the
Matt Pfeiffer:very bottom shelf dead center. But that's all that's easy to
Mike Graen:Yeah. And now that one is potentially an out of
Mike Graen:see.
Mike Graen:stock as well, what you don't see is probably the bigger
Mike Graen:issues, you have issues where you literally have a label
Mike Graen:that's missing. And so suppliers call this distribution void of
Mike Graen:supply, retailers typically call you call this modular integrity
Mike Graen:issues. But let's just say on the top three shelves, here, you
Mike Graen:see that yellow box, we're supposed to have labeled one,
Mike Graen:two, four. And what we got is one two full, okay, we're
Mike Graen:missing label three. So that yellow box indicates the label
Mike Graen:is missing. And of course, if the label is missing, the
Mike Graen:product is also missing. The other issue we have, is we have
Mike Graen:pricing issues, we have issues where the price at the register
Mike Graen:and the price at the point of sale are are registered and the
Mike Graen:shelves are different. And hopefully the price at the
Mike Graen:register is not more expensive than the point of sale, because
Mike Graen:then people start to lose the integrity with with the pricing
Mike Graen:situation. The next one is down stocking, there's products that
Mike Graen:appear on the top that could come down. And matter of fact,
Mike Graen:this red box right here, where we have the oddest stock could
Mike Graen:be sitting up top, but it should be down stock because the tops
Mike Graen:not really available for sale. And the last one is a one is
Mike Graen:really hard to do, which is plugged items, plugged items or
Mike Graen:otherwise called incorrect items was where you have a label, you
Mike Graen:have product but they are in fact not the same. They're
Mike Graen:different. Okay, so Mike is asking what are the thoughts on
Mike Graen:one increasing the level of retail theft on OSA as per
Mike Graen:LinkedIn posts from Tony? Mike, I think we're gonna get into the
Mike Graen:onhand accuracy piece here in a little bit. I believe that the
Mike Graen:retail shrink is part of the problem of why onhand accuracy
Mike Graen:becomes incorrect. And we'll talk about that here in just a
Mike Graen:little bit. Okay, if I don't come back to me. Thanks. So
Mike Graen:let's keep on going here. So So we've also got supply chain
Mike Graen:issues. That's another one. And we've obviously got everything
Mike Graen:from products moving on, you know, raw materials through the
Mike Graen:manufacturing distribution process. Well, the reality is,
Mike Graen:in order for the product to move one way the merchandise flow
Mike Graen:from the raw material all the way to the store shelves to the
Mike Graen:shopper, information has to route back the other way. And
Mike Graen:we're going to talk a little bit about the challenge of correct
Mike Graen:item information correct on hand information at a store level.
Mike Graen:But I would argue that this quality information is really a
Mike Graen:challenge within the entire supply chain. So if you're
Mike Graen:getting really bad forecasting data, or really bad on hand
Mike Graen:data, etc, it's really hard to make sure the product is in the
Mike Graen:supply chain. And we certainly exhibited that during the COVID
Mike Graen:challenge where we had things everything so tight from a just
Mike Graen:in time standpoint that a major things like a health scare, like
Mike Graen:that really created ripples in the supply chain for months and
Mike Graen:even years to come. And the last one is the onhand accuracy. And
Mike Graen:Mike we'll jump back into this in a second. But these are four
Mike Graen:specific genes. In a retailer. I've got a store on hand and
Mike Graen:actual on hand, whether it's accurate or not. And the reorder
Mike Graen:point is for or for those of you in the supply chain is really
Mike Graen:says when it comes down to hitting the number of the
Mike Graen:reorder point, I'm going to kick off another order to get some
Mike Graen:more product. Well, the first two, the first one is obviously
Mike Graen:right that a problem with that one. The next one, that's what
Mike Graen:is what we call understated. You're understating what you
Mike Graen:have you think, you have three, and you really have four,
Mike Graen:probably not a major issue unless you think you have three
Mike Graen:and you really have 400, or something like that. But the
Mike Graen:last two are the real issues, which is where you have a store
Mike Graen:on hand that says I have three and I don't have any at all on
Mike Graen:this last example. Matt, if I don't have any yet, obviously
Mike Graen:don't sell any. And if I don't sell any, how many do you think
Mike Graen:I should order? If I don't have any product? Matt?
Matt Pfeiffer:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I slipped away there for
Matt Pfeiffer:a second. Go ahead, answer this.
Mike Graen:Okay, so if I don't have any product as last product
Mike Graen:in the store, if I don't have any, how many should I order?
Mike Graen:With? Three, right? Yeah, could be three. The problem is, the on
Mike Graen:hand of store on hand is three, it thinks I have three, but I
Mike Graen:don't have any reorder point is two. So it says when your system
Mike Graen:goes down to an audit and have to go ahead and reorder three,
Mike Graen:right? But you're on hand is actually zero. So you're never
Mike Graen:going to loop you're never going to remove that somebody changes
Mike Graen:it, or unless a system changes, or unless somebody sells one,
Mike Graen:which you're not going to sell because you don't have any year
Mike Graen:on hand is always going to be three, and nobody's going to
Mike Graen:change that. So you're never going to order that product. So
Mike Graen:inventory accuracy, and retail outside of this RFID thing that
Mike Graen:we'll talk about in a little bit is still in the 50s and 60s. In
Mike Graen:some cases, that's probably okay. But another key high
Mike Graen:velocity items where you have a lot of holding power and a lot
Mike Graen:of velocity at the shelf 50 to 60 percents, okay. Other
Mike Graen:categories that are very, very important to customers, you may
Mike Graen:only have one or two on the shelf. So if you're off by 50%,
Mike Graen:you're probably going to not meet their expectations. So
Mike Graen:let's keep let's keep going through this. One of the other
Mike Graen:things, and this was a study that was done a little bit
Mike Graen:before COVID 2019, by you know, folks with Mike price over there
Mike Graen:in Europe and ECR community over in Europe. But I thought this, I
Mike Graen:think I've showed this to a few people. And this has been like
Mike Graen:interesting to them. And I think I want to make sure I
Mike Graen:highlighted green dots you have here basically is the orders or
Mike Graen:the on hand that you actually have available in the store. And
Mike Graen:the green solid line is what the actual on hand of the system is.
Mike Graen:So it's the green line is said in other words, is what the
Mike Graen:system thinks you have. The dots are what you actually have. And
Mike Graen:as you see, there's a difference between what you have what you
Mike Graen:think we add that in with the lead time you end up with a
Mike Graen:second scenario over here where you didn't order it enough time
Mike Graen:to get it on the shelf. And it ended up becoming an out of
Mike Graen:stock. That's one of the downsides. Even if it's not a
Mike Graen:phantom inventory where it's a zero situation. It's definitely
Mike Graen:a problem for the for the for that particular opponent for a
Mike Graen:while hope you enjoyed part one of my state of the industry
Mike Graen:comments on on shelf availability. Please join me
Mike Graen:next time as we wrap up this discussion and talk a little bit
Mike Graen:about some real life examples in the space of RFID and other
Mike Graen:technologies to drive on shelf availability. See you then