Did you know that some meditations are proven to reduce stress? Today Christian Yoga Instructor, Katy Willis, teaches us the Kirtan Kriya.
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How many of you out there could use a another
Tamara Anderson:stress relieving technique that you could tuck in your back
Tamara Anderson:pocket so you can do it when you're really feeling stressed
Tamara Anderson:or something to help you avoid stress? Today I have a special
Tamara Anderson:treat for you. I have a friend who is a Christian and a yoga
Tamara Anderson:instructor and she's going to teach us a cool form of
Tamara Anderson:meditation called the Kirtan Kriya. Stay tuned. You won't
Tamara Anderson:want to miss this.
Tamara Anderson:Welcome to Stories of Hope in Hard Times, the show that
Tamara Anderson:explores how people endure and even thrive in difficult
Tamara Anderson:times--all with God's help. I'm your host Tamara K. Anderson.
Tamara Anderson:Join me on a journey to find inspiring stories of hope and
Tamara Anderson:wisdom learned in life's hardest moments.
Tamara Anderson:Hello, and welcome to another episode of Tamara's Takeaways.
Tamara Anderson:I'm your host Tamara K. Anderson, on the Stories of Hope
Tamara Anderson:in Hard Times podcast. And today, I have an extra special
Tamara Anderson:treat for you. Because usually I just do a takeaways episode all
Tamara Anderson:by myself. I've been researching some more amazing stress
Tamara Anderson:relieving techniques, because I feel I need it. And I know
Tamara Anderson:everybody else probably does, too. And so I thought it would
Tamara Anderson:be so fun to bring Katy Willis back on today because she has
Tamara Anderson:some specialties that she's willing to share with us. And
Tamara Anderson:the cool thing about Katy is she has such a huge and broad
Tamara Anderson:background not only as a nurse, but she's also a certified
Tamara Anderson:Kundalini yoga instructor. She's a certified practitioner in
Tamara Anderson:quantum neuro reset therapy. And she is also a Christian. And so
Tamara Anderson:what is cool about this is she can kind of give us a
Tamara Anderson:Christian's take on meditation, which I love it, but I don't,
Tamara Anderson:you know, I don't know as much about it as she does. So, Katy,
Tamara Anderson:thank you for being with us today.
Katy Willis:Again, so much for having me. And wow, what a warm
Katy Willis:welcome. Well, this is so fun.
Tamara Anderson:Now, Katie is going to talk to us today about
Tamara Anderson:meditation. And I have to tell you, I've done just a tiny bit
Tamara Anderson:of meditation, minimal instruction, I know it's like
Tamara Anderson:pausing and thinking and my meditation, don't laugh usually
Tamara Anderson:ends up more like a prayer. I'm like, okay, Heavenly Father, I
Tamara Anderson:want to set the intention to . . .and I just go about it that
Tamara Anderson:way. And I know the lady that was teaching me once said,
Tamara Anderson:You're not supposed to start with a prayer. I don't know how
Tamara Anderson:else to do it.
Katy Willis:Oh, I like that.
Tamara Anderson:Anyway, so so my meditations that I've done so
Tamara Anderson:far, and granted, I am just a so novice at meditation. So tell
Tamara Anderson:me, how did you find meditation and and tell us kind of some
Tamara Anderson:tips and techniques of how we can use meditation as a form of
Tamara Anderson:stress relief.
Katy Willis:So I found meditation at the same time that
Katy Willis:I found yoga. And if you're jumping in, and you haven't
Katy Willis:heard the other episodes that we've done together, I found
Katy Willis:yoga, nine months after my husband had relapsed with
Katy Willis:addiction. And it had come across my path multiple times
Katy Willis:from people in my life who I trusted. Did a little bit of
Katy Willis:research. You know, at the time, it was like, This is so weird.
Katy Willis:And here, I'm this Christian, are we allowed to meditate? You
Katy Willis:know, but as I did a little bit of research felt good about it,
Katy Willis:I ordered my first DVD, which was a yoga class, and then also
Katy Willis:included meditation in every class. And so as I started doing
Katy Willis:this, I'll, I'll explain as we go along, and maybe it'll make
Katy Willis:more sense. But this first introduction was to a form of
Katy Willis:yoga, which is called Kundalini yoga and meditation. But it was
Katy Willis:so you know, out there, and I'm like, this is kind of weird, but
Katy Willis:I feel awesome. So I just kept doing it day after day after
Katy Willis:day.
Katy Willis:I feel like with meditation, you know, it's funny, you sit down
Katy Willis:to meditate, and you're like, dang it, my nose itches. What's
Katy Willis:going to be on my grocery list, you know, when I go to the
Katy Willis:store? Or Oh, I'm so mad at that person, or, you know, having
Katy Willis:gone through trauma, like in meditation, then sometimes some
Katy Willis:of those heavy, hard things that haven't fully been integrated
Katy Willis:are coming up. And so in terms of meditation as a lifestyle and
Katy Willis:bringing meditation off of the mat into our daily living. I
Katy Willis:feel like for me, I roll up that yoga mat, but because I have
Katy Willis:practiced during my meditation, sitting in the discomfort,
Katy Willis:rather than running away, turning to distraction, turning
Katy Willis:to coping, because I've stayed in that discomfort and the
Katy Willis:Things that I really like about the Kundalini Yoga meditations,
Katy Willis:is almost every meditation has an anchor point built into it.
Katy Willis:We are intentionally breathing. So anytime that that discomfort
Katy Willis:is coming up, or my mind starting to wander, I can gently
Katy Willis:escort my attention back to my breath, or a lot of Kundalini
Katy Willis:Yoga meditations use what's called mantra. Mantra is
Katy Willis:something that we are saying, and I love looking up. Most of
Katy Willis:the Kundalini Yoga meditations are in different languages. Most
Katy Willis:of them are in Sanskrit, some are in a language called
Katy Willis:gurmukhi. Summer in English, but I love looking up the
Katy Willis:translations and knowing what I'm chanting. And where this is
Katy Willis:a Christian audience. I was trained that when we chant
Katy Willis:mantra, we chant with devotion. That's where the power comes.
Katy Willis:And Kundalini Yoga is a form of yoga that talks about God. And
Katy Willis:so for me, when I'm chanting mantra, that one, I feel like
Katy Willis:when meditations include mantra, I can do that one piece of cake,
Katy Willis:because I love all of those things that I feel like mantra
Katy Willis:represents to me.
Katy Willis:And then the third thing is what's called mudra. This is
Katy Willis:finger or hand positioning, sometimes it also includes our
Katy Willis:arms. And so as we are meditating, and we have that
Katy Willis:discomfort coming up, or our tendency is to turn away,
Katy Willis:distract away, we can find these anchor points to escort our mind
Katy Willis:back. I am more aware of my thoughts and I've learned how to
Katy Willis:sit in discomfort. So when that discomfort comes up, as I'm
Katy Willis:interacting with somebody else, I'm ready to meet that in a
Katy Willis:different way. Because I've already practiced sitting
Katy Willis:through discomfort, so I can stay here rather than turning to
Katy Willis:my favorite coping mechanisms, which may or may not even be a
Katy Willis:full blown addiction. I'm not running towards the stories that
Katy Willis:my mind is telling me, you know, that "Oh, you're an unlovable
Katy Willis:person," or stories about other people and villainizing them, or
Katy Willis:stories about, you know, the way that the world works. I'm not
Katy Willis:running towards that.
Tamara Anderson:Yeah, I think so. So why don't you give us an
Tamara Anderson:example and maybe walk us through a Kundalini yoga,
Tamara Anderson:meditation?
Katy Willis:Okay, awesome. Let me tell you a little bit about
Katy Willis:this meditation. And then we'll segue into, there's a mantra
Katy Willis:that we chant, before we do any Kundalini Yoga meditations, and
Katy Willis:then we'll teach you how to do that meditation. So this
Katy Willis:meditation is what's called kirtan Kriya. And it is the
Katy Willis:Kundalini yoga meditation that has been studied more than any
Katy Willis:other Kundalini yoga meditation. Well, we'll link in the show
Katy Willis:notes. I did a recording that's available on Soundcloud for
Katy Willis:free. And within that link in the description, I gave links to
Katy Willis:the research that I'm alluding to, and then also a link to
Katy Willis:written instructions, that you can also see that there, okay,
Tamara Anderson:this is great.
Katy Willis:So when we get ready to do anything Kundalini
Katy Willis:Yoga, we start by rubbing the palms of our hands together,
Katy Willis:there are 72,000 nerve endings on the palms of our hands. So as
Katy Willis:we rub them together, we are activating those nerve endings.
Katy Willis:So as we rub our hands together, pressing palms together, this is
Katy Willis:waking up, left and right side of our brain. And so it is
Katy Willis:helping to neutralize the mind. We will bring all of our fingers
Katy Willis:together except our thumbs will be apart from our other fingers.
Katy Willis:And there's a little notch on our sternum bone, that bone that
Katy Willis:links all of our ribs together. So we find that little notch at
Katy Willis:the bottom of the sternum and we hook our thumb up our thumbs up
Katy Willis:and in
Tamara Anderson:So kind of where your thumbs hit your
Tamara Anderson:diaphragm or where your ribs hit your diaphragm.
Katy Willis:Yeah, just about that area a little bit up for
Katy Willis:me. It's maybe I'm trying to measure maybe an inch.
Tamara Anderson:Okay.
Katy Willis:But it's it's a little bit tender when we hit
Katy Willis:that point.
Tamara Anderson:Okay, yeah.
Katy Willis:Okay. Yeah, I'm glad you asked. Closing the
Katy Willis:eyes, if it feels safe, or softening the gaze of eyes
Katy Willis:remain open. If we close the eyes, then we might choose to
Katy Willis:focus our gaze up and in at that point that's just slightly up
Katy Willis:from the bridge of our nose between our eyebrows that brow
Katy Willis:point is what we call it in yoga. And taking a moment here,
Katy Willis:noticing our breath. Beginning to inhale and exhale from our
Katy Willis:nose if we aren't already really rooting down on our sit bones.
Katy Willis:And as we talked about briefly in the yoga class, by engaging
Katy Willis:our abdomen--that core, it frees up the tailbone to point
Katy Willis:straight down to the earth, pressing deeply into the ground.
Katy Willis:And we're able to also lift the sternum up, to reach our thumbs,
Katy Willis:shoulders drop down and back, slightly, tucking the chin back,
Katy Willis:aligning ears over shoulders.
Katy Willis:We will repeat the mantra called Adi mantra, it's "Ong Namo Guru
Katy Willis:dev Namo." We'll take a slight breath after namo. This
Katy Willis:translates to "I bow to the wisdom that's innately inside of
Katy Willis:me." And the way that I would describe it is we're tuning into
Katy Willis:our body. We're tuning into our mind. God within us. So I would
Katy Willis:invite you to maybe listen to the first round, and as you feel
Katy Willis:comfortable, and you might join in the second and the third.
Katy Willis:So inhaling through our nose, holding the breath for just a
Katy Willis:moment, releasing, letting go of the breath. Inhaling a second
Katy Willis:time, gently holding and releasing out through the nose.
Katy Willis:And inhaling to begin this first time. "Ong Namo Guru dev, namo,"
Katy Willis:inhaling "Ong Namo guru dev Namo," inhaling, "Ong Namo guru
Katy Willis:dev Namo."
Katy Willis:Inhaling, and we might suspend the breath for just a moment.
Katy Willis:and exhaling slowly opening the eyes releasing hands. That's
Katy Willis:just the tune in but man, I don't know about you, when I
Katy Willis:take that moment to do the tune in, to breathe intentionally, to
Katy Willis:check in with my body, my posture. Just even that tune in
Katy Willis:I feel amazing.
Katy Willis:I think the reason why kirtan Kriya is the most highly studied
Katy Willis:Kundalini Yoga Kriya is because it is such an interactive
Katy Willis:meditation. And kirtan Kriya is tapping into that because
Katy Willis:there's a mudra. We're doing things with our fingers. And
Katy Willis:this particular meditation, we're using all 10 fingers. Each
Katy Willis:finger lights up a different part of our brain, we're using
Katy Willis:10, ok.
Katy Willis:There's also a mantra. And mantras are so powerful. There
Katy Willis:are 84 reflex points in the mouth. When we're chanting
Katy Willis:mantra, it's vibrating. What's on the other side of the roof of
Katy Willis:our mouth? It's our brain. So there is a complex cascade of
Katy Willis:events that happen just simply by chanting mantra. We're
Katy Willis:activating the brain in specific ways. We are also getting into
Katy Willis:the release of hormones through the glandular system. We're
Katy Willis:strengthening not only the nervous system, but also the
Katy Willis:immune system. Simply by chanting Mantra.
Tamara Anderson:we need that
Katy Willis:I know, Amen. So this meditation is tapping into
Katy Willis:mood drop mantra. And then additionally, there is an eye
Katy Willis:focus. So this particular meditation is loaded in in the
Katy Willis:benefits that we are getting to literally rewire our brain,
Katy Willis:because we are activating so much of it at once. So our
Katy Willis:mudra. We start by touching our thumb tips to our pointer finger
Katy Willis:tips. And then we will move thumb to middle fingers, thumbs
Katy Willis:to ring fingers, and thumbs to pinkies. And then we always
Katy Willis:start back with thumb to pointer fingers. Okay? So you always
Katy Willis:start with pointer and always end with Pinky. We're doing both
Katy Willis:hands at the same time.
Katy Willis:The mantra lines up with the mudra the mantra is Sa, Ta Na,
Katy Willis:Ma. SA Ta Na, ma. So as we say saw, we're touching pointers. Ta
Katy Willis:we're touching middle na we're touching rings, Ma, we're
Katy Willis:touching pinkies. Okay? I would rest my hands on my knees while
Katy Willis:I'm doing the mudra. Sa means birth. Ta means life. Na means
Katy Willis:change or death and ma means rebirth. For me, as a Christian,
Katy Willis:I love this because I feel like it's a reminder as I'm chanting
Katy Willis:it, of the power that every day and every moment can be
Katy Willis:different. I don't have to be who I once was. Every inhale
Katy Willis:that I am taking into my body, I am literally saying yes to life.
Katy Willis:And because of Jesus Christ, I don't have to be who I once was,
Katy Willis:even who I was the last breath before this one. There's always
Katy Willis:chance for change, and to be reborn, from moment to moment.
Katy Willis:We will be chanting the mantra out loud, for part of the
Katy Willis:meditation, whispering for part of the meditation, and then what
Katy Willis:we call mentally vibrating for part of the meditation. It is
Katy Willis:incredible the way that our brain is set up. When we think
Katy Willis:about something or silently read our scriptures. It creates the
Katy Willis:same physiological cascade, as if we are saying the words out
Katy Willis:loud, pretty incredible to me. So when we are mentally
Katy Willis:vibrating, for that portion, we will keep the mudra going. But
Katy Willis:we are thinking in our mind Sa, Ta, Na, ma. Lastly, the eye
Katy Willis:focus, eyes closed, focused up at that brow point. So just
Katy Willis:slightly up from the bridge of the nose between the two
Katy Willis:eyebrows. We'll do a three minute version of kirtan Kriya
Katy Willis:here. So we will chant out loud for 30 seconds. You just heard
Katy Willis:me heard me chant it there's a melody to that part.
Unknown:Sa, Ta, Na, Ma
Katy Willis:30 seconds of whispering I'll warn you
Katy Willis:whispering "sa, ta, na, ma." One minute of mentally vibrating and
Katy Willis:then we sandwich it. 30 seconds of whispering again. 30 seconds
Katy Willis:of chanting out loud. And then we'll follow that with a minute
Katy Willis:of silence.
Tamara Anderson:Let's try it.
Katy Willis:Okay, closing the eyes if that feels safe,
Katy Willis:focusing at that brow point again, thumb and pointer ending
Katy Willis:on pinky starting on pointer. Here we go. Inhaling to begin.
Katy Willis:Sa Ta na ma, Sa ta na ma. Sa, ta, na, ma. Whispering: sa, ta,
Katy Willis:na, ma; sa, ta, na, ma; sa, ta, na, ma. Mentally vibrating.. . .
Katy Willis:. . .
Katy Willis:Continuing with the mudra Sa, Ta Na, Ma; Sa, Ta, Na, Ma; Sa, Ta,
Katy Willis:Na, Ma; Sa, ta, na, ma; inhale, you might hold the breath for
Katy Willis:just a moment.
Katy Willis:Exhaling, relaxing the hands, taking a minute here. Sitting in
Katy Willis:stillness that we've created. As we're ready, slowly opening our
Katy Willis:eyes if they were closed. Well, how was that?
Tamara Anderson:I was cool. I've never done a meditation
Tamara Anderson:like that.
Katy Willis:And that one, again, is very interactive. But
Katy Willis:can you see what I mean? There were plenty of anchors, right?
Katy Willis:To bring our attention back to. Now, You know, we didn't mention
Katy Willis:previously, there are a number of schools of thought when it
Katy Willis:comes to mindfulness and meditation. Some people really
Katy Willis:try to promote that we just clear the whole mind away, and
Katy Willis:it's blank. And I don't know about you, my mind does not work
Katy Willis:that way. And I believe that our minds were not designed to be
Katy Willis:that way.
Katy Willis:Yogi Bhajan, who brought Kundalini Yoga to the west, he
Katy Willis:says that for every wink of the eye, so every time we blink,
Katy Willis:there are 1000 thoughts coming at us. So rather than trying to
Katy Willis:stop our mind altogether, I believe that we can learn to
Katy Willis:slow the mind down. I feel like maybe we just experienced that,
Katy Willis:right? We can slow the mind down. And I don't feel like we
Katy Willis:can clear it away to the point that it's necessarily blank. But
Katy Willis:I believe that we can find that stillness point. And, and,
Katy Willis:again, taking meditation off the mat. I don't know about you, my
Katy Willis:days can get pretty crazy. But bringing meditation in as a
Katy Willis:lifestyle practice means I can find that point of stillness,
Katy Willis:even when other things are swirling around me.
Tamara Anderson:Yeah, thank you for that. And All right, so
Tamara Anderson:we've learned all about meditation and Kundalini today
Tamara Anderson:and tell me what websites would you point us to? We'll obviously
Tamara Anderson:linked to your SoundCloud with that 11 minute full thing that
Tamara Anderson:will also give us the science behind it. But are there any
Tamara Anderson:other websites or apps, you would point us to with
Tamara Anderson:meditation?
Katy Willis:I've created a whole entire course, about the
Katy Willis:mind. And I'm a life coach. And so part of the course we focus
Katy Willis:on what I call approaching the mind from the top down, that
Katy Willis:means we're looking at our patterning our programming, and
Katy Willis:we're being more intentional about that. I build a tool into
Katy Willis:every class. So there's a tool that we can whip out in the
Katy Willis:moment. And then in every class, there's also kind of a lifestyle
Katy Willis:tool, things that we're doing intentionally every day that we
Katy Willis:might incorporate into our self care routine. That's going to
Katy Willis:help us to have a different experience with the mind. And
Katy Willis:then the other portion of the class, we're focusing on what
Katy Willis:I'm calling from the bottom up, we are getting into meditation.
Katy Willis:And we are working with a number of meditations that help us to
Katy Willis:work with our individual psychology. It's
Katy Willis:I didn't realize until recent years, just like nobody has ever
Katy Willis:lived in your body or will. And we have to learn how to care for
Katy Willis:our specific body. Nobody has your mind. And even though we
Katy Willis:can work with professionals, like therapists or other
Katy Willis:individuals who can kind Pick out the patterns, that is
Katy Willis:territory that we get to go with our Savior. So this is also a
Katy Willis:Christian based course. And there are a ton of different
Katy Willis:types of meditation that we can experience. Experience them all,
Katy Willis:because they're all different and working with our mind and
Katy Willis:our brain in different ways.
Tamara Anderson:Oh my goodness, wow! we'll see what you get in
Tamara Anderson:just a short amount of time? You get the windows of meditation
Tamara Anderson:open to you. But The cool thing about learning new and different
Tamara Anderson:ways to relieve stress is that you will find ones that work for
Tamara Anderson:you. And that you can then apply in your life whenever you need
Tamara Anderson:them. Especially at times, like now, when times are more
Tamara Anderson:stressful, sometimes we need to find new tools. And as we apply
Tamara Anderson:these new tools in our lives, and are able to decrease our
Tamara Anderson:stress, or able to increase our capacity to deal with the
Tamara Anderson:pressure or stress, then we can build our own hope. It's like
Tamara Anderson:we're building the reserves of our own strength to deal with
Tamara Anderson:life's challenges that surround us-- resilience, almost Yeah,
Tamara Anderson:what I would call it. And so this helps us build hope. Thank
Tamara Anderson:you so much for being with us today and for sharing these
Tamara Anderson:amazing techniques and meditation. Katy, you're
Tamara Anderson:awesome.
Unknown:Thank you. Thanks for having me. Tamara.
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