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Summary

In this episode of Devil's Trap Podcast, Diana and Liz discuss their recent household projects, their experience at a Brazilian steakhouse, and their weekend activities. They also review the Supernatural episode 'Devil May Care' and discuss the themes of possession, demon hierarchy, and the Winchester brothers' plan to kill all demons. Abaddon, the queen of hell, makes a comeback and recruits demons to join her in a coup against Crowley. The episode ends with a mysterious scene involving dead cows and a military base. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the inconsistencies in the portrayal of military uniforms in the show. They also question the presence of an Army specialist on a Navy base and the use of FBI agents in a military case. The hosts then talk about the introduction of a new character, Tracy, and her confrontational attitude towards the Winchesters. They discuss the use of sex-tortion as a tactic and the need for the military to address issues of bad behavior. The conversation then shifts to Kevin's interaction with Crowley and the manipulation tactics used by the demon. The hosts also discuss the abandoned town setting and the fight scenes between the Winchesters and the demons. The chapter ends with Dean's conflicted feelings about Ezekiel and his trust in the angel. In this episode, Sam and Dean encounter two hunters, Pete and Tracy, who are on the hunt for Abaddon. However, their methods and motives are questionable. Meanwhile, Zeke tries to convince Sam that he is one of the good guys, and Dean covers up Zeke's presence by lying to Sam. Kevin, feeling betrayed by the Winchesters, decides to leave and search for his missing mother. The episode sets up the ongoing storylines for the season, including the conflict with Abaddon and the mystery surrounding Kevin's mother.

Chapters00:00

Introduction and Household Projects

02:46

Review of Supernatural Episode 'Devil May Care'

05:27

Weekend Activities and Recap of Abaddon's Return

09:12

Exploring the Meaning of 'Devil May Care'

13:22

Abaddon's Coup Against Crowley

19:17

Locking Crowley in the Dungeon

23:21

The Mystery of the Dead Cows

25:07

Navy Base and the Bus Incident

27:52

Dean's Phone Call and Abaddon's Plan

30:06

Discussion of Military Uniforms and Dead Cows

33:38

Confrontation and Sex-tortion Tactics

35:37

Kevin's Vulnerability and Crowley's Manipulation

38:44

The Eerie Atmosphere of the Abandoned Town

49:50

Intense Fight Scenes with the Demons

58:54

Dean's Conflicted Feelings about Ezekiel

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast. I'm Diana.

Liz and I'm trying to quietly type and not just pat and I'm like shit I remembered I need to look up something for this intro and I wanted to make sure that I had a right name and I did. Hi!

Oops, oops.

I'm alright, how are you?

I just told you.

You're frantically typing quietly. Yeah, no, I'm hanging in. I did a household project and I'm, I am la tired. That's what I got. Very tired. It wasn't, it wasn't, you know, it's like, you know, I'm just going to paint a wall and a ceiling. Sounds very easy. Yeah, that was a lot. And trim.

Hehehehehe

Yeah, it was a big, it was a big household project.

It's adding the ceiling, I think is like, where like, is that's just a hard thing. And like, there's no way you can do that with, and you're tall people, but even with tall people, that's just an awkward. It may have been easier to do that if you're shorter. I don't know, because you don't have to look up. You could get, it's, yeah, it's not a comfortable thing to paint.

Yeah, you're you can only look up for so long.

It's not, but it looks lovely. And yeah, that's what I got. And then we went and I went and had the too much meats. What do we what do we want to recall? I don't know. The Brazilian steakhouse thing. Meat on a sword. Meat Ninja was my go to because they got swords meat with swords on they sneak up on you and they sneak up on you. So good. That's what you like. Yeah.

I call it meat on a sword, is my typical go -to for it.

Yeah, and the place that you went to, if they're because they're the same franchise as the one that is down here and their service is insane to the point that it gives me anxiety and I need to be like boys, you need to back off. You're making me fucking nervous. Like, get the fuck out of my face, please.

It's so good.

It was... I mean, I had my own purse hanger tree next to me.

I do love a purse hanger tree, why don't we always have them? You should give me something with my purse on everywhere.

I don't know.

And then like the service, you're right, the service was impeccable. It's some of the best service I've had in a minute. So it was a lovely experience. And then everybody was very, very full and sleepy.

Yeah, so how did your new strategy work out? So I know explain your new strategy to the folks.

So strategy at these places is because it's all about, I mean, it is not an, it's not outrageous, but it's not an inexpensive meal, right? But a lot of us don't can't like really eat the volume to maximize a fucking all you can eat thing. And I can't anymore, at least I try. So my strategy is, is that you prioritize certain things on the salad bar that you can't get all the time or are high value. Very nice cheeses. I get excited about hearts of palm.

Well, I mean, okay, go ahead.

They also had miniature wedge salads and I love a wedge salad so I was stoked. Dave was all about, they have a.

they have them in little miniature. That's adorable. Yeah, of course you have to get that.

And like they had a prosciutto slicer, of course, they had a prosciutto slicer where they were slicing it on the machine right there. So Dave was drooling and he was happy. So like I prioritize those little things. You don't pile up on the salad. You have to eat the little stupid bread bites because those little like cheese bread ball things are to die for. But you don't overdo it. You don't mess too much with the mashed potatoes. That's just a little palate cleanser in between things. Same with the plantains.

Mm -hmm.

Skip the fucking chicken leg. I'm sure it's lovely. But like, why bother? You've prioritized the really good meat. If you're into it, the lamb chop, some of the pork ribs are lovely, like things like that, like things that are really well done, like well executed. I should say not well done as in well cooked. So that's how I operated this. And then spent way too much money on wine.

No, I mean, we'll sort of, one of the other approaches that you can take is going in knowing what expensive cut of meat you would like. And when you don't see it, then you say when they have all of that fancy service and like that guy comes around, he was like, how's your table? And you're like, that's great. I was really hoping to see blah, blah, blah.

and request it.

yeah.

filet of de de de and they'll be like, like, I don't know, and like, and generally they'll send that out if they don't send that out, then they'll also like it with like a comparable cut, right? So that is the other way that you can maximize and also like that way you're not just having to rely on the random like order that they pick. You can direct the order of your your sword dance of meat to make it the most bang for your buck.

no, we did that.

whatever is coming around.

yeah.

we took full advantage of requesting things. Some of the people that I was with was with my family, but we had one person that had never been to a place like this and then one that hadn't in a long time. So I'm like, no, no, what do you want? They're like, it's fine. I'm like, no, what do you want? And they told me, and I'm like, can we get some of this? I'm like, can we get more of that? she really wants it cooked like that. And they were on it. It was beautiful, beautiful.

Hopefully he didn't ask in that voice, because I would have punched you in the face.

No, I didn't. I didn't. That's just Diana. That's my silly voices. I've been on a silly voice kick and I'm kind of not sorry about it. I don't actually use it to talk to people. It's just people that I like.

Silly voice is fine. my God. Like I have seen that girl ask for things and waiters and they just like that waiter. That's why I tip well. Cause they had to deal with Becky's voice. Yeah. I'm glad you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Let's do that.

No, it was it was lovely. Yeah, I actually got to see a few and then a few years before I got to see some fireworks, not as many as I hoped, but I got to see some in my neighbor. Not not professional ones.

Okay, well that's good.

That's all. How about audio too? Other than typing?

So I have been just, you know, nesting, nesting is the right word, just organizing and settling, but just trying to make life livable so I can actually get back to work and doing things I need to do. And with, yeah, just busy, you know, during these things, like you can't really do anything else. You can't find anything, you can't focus.

settling.

Yeah.

So I'm like, okay, I'm almost at a point where I can get back to regular life. And I'm starting to get emails from people who are wanting things from you. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know I need to do this. But I went up to Austin to go see the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer musical in the air. And at

waiting for you.

Yeah, I'll get there.

at my, at my, I guess my gym, whatever. But it was, it was really great. It was hosted by James C Leary, who plays Clem in Buffy. And he is the demon with the extra skin. He likes to play poker with kittens with Spike. And it was really great to see him there. I'm not sure how many people really got those who that was, but I was like, shit. Like, but you know, cause he wasn't dressed as Cedar cause you can't.

Yeah, there's a lot of prosthetics involved.

You don't really know what he, and he only said it once. So, and I'm not sure how like often he presents burlesque or aerial stuff. And he seemed to have a good time and it was a good show. Although, and I don't know if they were doing this because of copyright, you know, girls, like, I'm sorry. I don't want, but there was, cause you know, there was a thing on the.

So the posters says we're doing this anyway. So I kind of feel like this may have been some some gumption performances going a little rogue. And so sometimes like they would start off with the song from the musical and then it would stop and it would go into another song that wasn't in the musical and they would do a performance to that. I'd be like, but.

going a little rogue.

Hmm. Interesting.

Okay that's cool but I didn't come to see that song so I don't know if they had to do that I'm assuming they did but it was it was still a very good time and I haven't you know I haven't seen burlesque in a while there was some good burlesque and you know there was a lot of good silks peoples and there was a leera dude and he was good and it was a good time and

But yeah.

Huh.

I'm glad I went and got to see loose -skinned me.

Nice.

So let's hop into this week's episode. Devil may care. And that is alluding to some song and I forgot to look at why. And they usually say somewhere on the supernatural Wiki with the thing is whistle. Let's see. Okay. The term, so what supernatural Wiki says the term devil may care is used to describe someone with a careless or reckless attitude.

Yes.

Hmm.

The phrase is a shortened form of the devil may care, but I do not. The phrase's origin dates all the way back to around 1785 to 95. It is also the title of a 2008 James Bond novel. Thank you for that supernatural bookie that someone whipped.

And it was directed by Guy Norman B. We have last saw him last season doing Blood Brother, which was season five and the season 19's Taxi Driver. And it was written by Andrew Dabb and we saw him last season with Trial and Error, which was episode 14 and then episodes 22's clip show.

So we start off Double Make Hair with a recap that is very, very Abaddon heavy.

Jerk (10:02.35)

It is Abaddon Crowley. We've got Sam dying and Ezekiel taking over and the secret.

His let it go frozen moment. This is what I'm calling Leo, his let it go. Because, yes, his frozen moment.

Is that what it is?

and then Dean's big secret.

And I'm just calling the non -consensual possession. And that's just what I'm saying is what has happened to Sam. Because I don't think he had any choice in this and he's just had somebody inserted into him non -consensuously. It was a loophole. It was a loophole. That's what they're playing with. It's something that would just piss somebody off. So anyhow, we're gonna open on a spooky house that I wish I owned.

He didn't... Well, he did, but he...

Yeah.

Oof. Oof.

true.

with a body bag being dragged through it.

I mean, that's fine. I mean, you just, you know, you have to put that on the Zillow page, you know, but...

Sure. It depends on if the body was found there or not or whatever, probably, right? I don't know if that's a disclosure needed. And then we cut to Dean and what I'm calling Sam Zekiel throughout my notes because it's confusing. But right now it's basically Sam. I don't know. I don't know how to describe this.

See, but yeah, you can't say Sam Zekiel. He has it, like he's, yeah, I think we have to distinguish what it's the, yeah, we'll go on. But this is Sam Sam.

because it's just Sam right now.

So Sam, Sam, Sam, and he they are talking about Cassiel on this picnic bench and discussing the fallen angels and.

Yeah, basically seems like they're just playing catch -up with each other and it would just you know, hey We're kind of recapping things in the episode, but didn't y 'all just do this in the car So why why are y 'all doing this? Okay, so how like and now I'm really getting concerned about your like how many times both of you have been hit in the head and Maybe how much was hate? Yeah, and that's you. That's you

It's a recap. Yeah.

Yeah, it's weird.

and how much you drink.

What?

and so remember that last episode when I said, take note of Crowley being in the trunk. And then like, we didn't talk about it again, because he didn't get out. He was there that entire time. And it was just like, Hey, drop this and like this episode. He's just how like, so he's been in like, it's good. Does he have to pee?

No, he didn't. Yeah.

Do demons have to pee? I mean, angels don't, right?

I don't know like in this body but the angels don't so I mean but it seems like he kind of gets sweaty and shit right he got a smell like

Bloody, I don't know. Sounds gross. I'd be hangry.

It's I think it smells like chunks gonna smell and like did they like like put things on top of the weapons and chunk or is he just like lying like across like all of the weapons? How do you like yeah, how you avoid getting a machete in your nut sack, you know, the so many so many Crowley problems in this drunk

A machete. A machete and some bullets.

Maybe he liked it.

Yeah, because he's just still in the trunk and they open it up. They open trunk. Yay trunk. And he says that it's Dean's junk in his trunk.

Hey, drunk.

Thank you.

I know, I know. I couldn't help it. All right, so then we cut to back to this abandoned, spooky house and

which you cannot candle pretty. You just cannot. Like, no, it just looks like a squat with candles.

No, you cannot.

It does. It really does. And this guy, this mechanic dude is got this with a burned up body in this body bag. And basically he does this spell and it's Abaddon back in her body.

doing spell work with a body bag.

Well, first we see some, well, manicure claws just like point her way through and just like, like as gross as she is, like her nails are great.

We do. And there's swirling cocksmoke waiting.

And there's swirling cocksmoke ready waiting for this body, which is slightly confusing. So here's my question of the day. I don't know what's the question of the day. It's a question. So Abaddon was burnt up, right? That's her body was burnt up at the church and she cocked and the meat suit that was actually Jodie was burnt up, I should say, right? And Abaddon, the demon, cocksmoked out. Yes. OK.

So now we've got Abaddon cocksmoke swirling in this room and burned up Jody body. Josie Josie. Sorry, I caught myself. Wait a minute. Josie body in the bathtub. So did Abaddon just not want to find another meat suit? We like really like Josie and was like. OK, that's I just wanted clarity, because I'm like, this seems like complicated. I don't blame her. It's just complicated.

Mm -hmm.

Josie, not Judy, yep.

She got really attached to Josie. She just really, yeah, she really wants to, well, I mean, until we get to later. I don't blame her, because she's fucking hot. And now she has like her hair super, like, she's like, she's like all naked and like she rises like out of the tub. She's like, here are my claws. Here is my hair. It looks fabulous. It looks like it was pin curled, like while it was up there. It's just, it's very Rita Hayworth -y. I'm really digging the vibe she's giving off here.

Shutter Vibe.

Yeah.

No, it's good. I was just clarifying. I wasn't to complain.

Sorry. But no, it's important because we have a few other things like this that'll happen throughout this episode.

Right. So we cut back to the bunker where Dean enters and Kevin tries to shoot an arrow at him. Dean calls him Katniss.

Yes, and he is bad and Kevin's been having a few bad days, including he noting that he is constipated.

Yes, because when the bunker kind of went nuts, it's everything shut down. It locked him in his phone didn't work and he thought the world was ending and means like, yeah, the angels fell. It was bad. But, you know, next time the world's ending, get a gun. And also, by the way, my phone works just fine. So what the fuck, dude? Like so Kevin kind of freaked out, went a little feral, I guess, or whatever and locked himself in.

He did. He sometimes, but you know, like if I was in this massive bunker and every, all those lights are like, I go a little crazy too. But I also think that, you know, Kevin says, you will the system reset when you open the door, which may be horseship. It also may be true.

Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe true, maybe true. So Sam enters leading Crowley, who is blindfolded and tied up into the bunker to take him to be locked in the dungeon. Kevin is not happy about this. And the dungeon, as we recall, is a behind the file cabinets in the storage room.

And it's just not a great place to have a dungeon. I think they need to relocate it. I think as we'll see later, it's just not good because you have to do work in the files. So maybe let's think about relocating this to somewhere else.

It's inconvenient.

Well, they get Sam and Dean take Crowley to the dungeon where Dean promptly punches Crowley and

Well, you think he's going to say, hello boys. And he says, hello. And then before he gets to the boys, then Dean punches him in the face. And I just think that was, the comedic timing of it was awesome.

He gets cocked.

Yeah. And basically Sam and Dean's plan is to try to get, which I think is kind of a weird one. Like I said, I don't know how successful they actually expected to be, but they want the name of every demon on earth and who they're possessing. And

Which sounds like their plan, right? So their plan is to kill all the demons.

Yeah. And they're like, Hey, we saw you.

But then we have to go back into the what now? So how, like, you kill the demons, how now? Like, so are we exercising them? Is that just sending them to hell? Are we sending them to hell so they can come back? Are we stabbing them with the knife? Like, I don't think this is a plan. I think this is a what the fuck do we do with Crowley? Okay, let's try that.

Right, so are you killing them or are you?

Are we killing the meat suit? Like what's happening?

Go.

No, well, we do it. This is this is we're not closing the gates of hell, so we'll just fuck off all the demons. And I don't think that's a great plan either. And Sam's like, I saw your human side when I was breaking down when I was trying to cure you. And Crowley is just not having it and just straight up mocks him back. He says like, you have no leverage. You didn't if you did. You're not closing hell because you didn't do it. You're not killing me because you didn't do it. Torture. And he basically says that.

I know.

You know, makes a joke about Sam and SM S gear and. I'll let you do it. I'll let you do it.

He can't wait to see Sam in stilettos and a leather bousier really putting the S -A into S and And then he says, what are you going to do to me that I don't just do to myself for kicks every Friday night? And I'm like, man, my Friday nights are boring.

Mm -hmm.

They certainly don't involve Sam Winchester in solettos and a leather bustier. Now I have goals. So then they just decide to lock him in.

Jerk (19:17.318)

They're like fine by and they leave them there. So back out in the main part of the bunker, Kevin is super mad and he's like. Yeah, he's like super mad. And then Dean's like, no, don't worry about it. As soon as it says Crowley breaks down, we're going to let you stab him and then we'll go for ice cream and strippers. I guess.

Kits get to stabbing.

Hopefully not the same place.

I have a soft serve machine at the strip club at the buffet. Anyway. All right. So I mean, no one's bad at free soft serve. Fine. Fine. So Dean's going to make calls. He wants Kevin to keep working on the angel tablet and trying to figure out what Metatron spell was. While Sam is off to research angel -y and demon -y stuff or monster -y and ghost -y.

It was soft serve, it was soft serve. How bad can that be? I'm sure it's fine.

the net on the net he's gonna get me Sandra Bullock

I like that. I like angel, demon, monster and ghosty.

Angelie, Divinie, Monster, Angosti.

Yeah, I like that. So anyways, back to Abaddon. Yes.

We cut to my goddess. See, and now the thing is, like, look, I appreciated, like, the hair down thing when she was, like, rising out of a tub. It was really pretty. But I just think if you're going to be, like, yelling down at your underlings, I think you need to go up. Like, at least like a ponytail or an updo. Like, I just want to, if I'm going to take it, I want something more severe for this tongue lashing.

okay. Well, she has the mechanic Jason, who I guess was the one that resurrected re -re - I don't know what the fuck word you want to use.

Resurrect is, I mean it was repossessed but resurrect, I mean, yeah.

I don't know, one of those things. Put put made the body not burned and put Abaddon.

I get to say resurrection and that way I just get to say erection. It puts the demons back in the unburnt bodies. Resurrection.

I was like, made the body not burned up and put the demon back in the body.

I don't know. But sure. And razzarpossession? I don't know. Anyways, and we got him plus three others who are quote, violent power hungry opportunists. And Abaddon's just really disappointed in an angry disappointment in how demons are managing things on earth. And she mocks, we've got Grandma Demon.

And Grandma Demon ain't gonna have it. She's like, I closed 72 deals last year because kids love grandma. But Abedin's un -fucking -impressed because she's like, that's the problem. Why are we doing deals? Why are we paying for anything that we should just be taking outright? This is all fucking Crowley's fault. A king should fight and conquer and not be a salesman. Be busy reading contracts.

This, yeah, this still feels like a corporate SEO meeting or, you know, someplace where everybody gets, you know, the tech that everybody has like these grand like conferences that the salespeople get together and they rah rah each other to like go. But also it's a coup and I appreciate a coup.

Yeah. And she's like, I'm the queen where I'm going to, we're going to march into hell as liberators and demons are going to sweep over the earth. Humans and angels are going to bow to me. And Crowley is fucking dead. And our grandma demons like,

The king is dead, long live the queen!

And our grandma demons like cool. That's great. But can you prove Crowley's dead? Because last we checked, like we thought you were dead for a week there. So I kind of need to know he's really gone before we commit to this. And by the way, I thought nights were kind of overrated. So but.

Abaddon's not impressed with this response. Abaddon is unimpressed. So she forces Grandma to cocksmoke out and says, take this message to hell. I'm coming.

Yep, so yeah, Grammy is getting mouthy.

Okay, so in this time, when you get cock -smoked out by Abaddon, you go to hell. You leave your meat suit and you go to hell.

not just to another body or whatever floating around on Earth.

So she said, okay, okay, so that's what happened there. Okay, so then we go to Dean.

This time, yes.

And he is on the phone with another hunter named Irv and Irv is he's telling he's Deans telling Irv how to track fallen angels with your trap, how to torture him with the holy oil and all this stuff. He's trying to help him out.

Earth.

Yeah, he's basically just giving him the 511 on, hey, all those meteor things falling down are angels. And so you need to have a heads up on like what to do. Right. So he's just doing his due diligence calls. Like, by the way, a bunch of dicks are running. There's a thousand burning dicks running around.

This is what's going on.

to his hunter buddies.

And Irv does get the opportunity to jump. That was in Burning Dicks. Irv gets the opportunity to drop in a reference to a story that Dean Hadhole heard before about Irv and Bobby fighting werewolf side of these twins. And apparently Bobby would tell this story every time he drank La Batte. I thought that was hilarious.

you

in Saskatoon.

It was very, very funny. All right. So then we're going to cut to some things I think Diana may have some questions about. So we cut to a Navy base. So we cut to the Navy base. And then like, who comes out of like the Navy base? Like, are those sailors or are those soldiers? They are sailors, right? Okay.

my God.

Yeah, they're sailors, sailors. Yes, they are called sailors.

I'm just, I'm just right now, I'm just verifying that those people who came out of this Navy base at this point were naval, US naval sailors just in, in some camouflaged uniforms. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. So that's there.

Yes.

Correct.

That is a camo. That is a camo Navy uniform that blue camo. Yeah. Yeah. And that is yes. And there's three of them and they get on a bus. They get on the municipal bus, which is not shocking.

Well, I would know I also I want to make fun of them because also they're being gross about their weekend plans and one of them is going after a girl named Jamie, which is really funny considering they're sailors and Diana has a sailor brother named Jamie. So they're going after Jamie in the town. Anyways, sorry. So we go to the bus. I'm not gonna let that get away.

That is true.

I know I was skipping over it, but yes, they're there on the bus, the municipal bus. They're in the municipal bus and they sit down and they look around. We look around and you realize that all the other bus passengers, all the other ones are Abaddon's demons and Abaddon herself is the driver and they cox all these demons, cox smoke out of the current bodies and go into the sailors bodies.

So the question I have is, did Abaddon possess the bus driver or did she send her minions on a quest to get her the outfit? And then did they have like a bunch of different, cause that bus sailor, that the bus driver outfit looks a little too perfect for what the bus drivers, and don't think, you know, so I have a feeling.

I think I'm outfit, outfit. I vote outfit.

No bus driver in no bus driver in San Diego's wearing that fucking outfit.

No, so I was in San Diego a couple months ago. I didn't get on a bus, but I can tell you, I did not see any bus drivers dressed like that. So I think there was a side quest of minions and they had to go procure her and they ended up going to like a costume thing or something. But then there was like a montage where she tried on and then they kept bringing her like different uniforms and she was like, God damn it. They're like, it's like, I can't be a construction broker. I have to be a bus driver.

All the outfits.

Ha!

Sorry.

gosh, going through like the YMCA outfits. Anyways.

So yes, that is exactly what is happening. Like it was like Charlie's montage before, but now it's with Abaddon and uniforms. Okay, so that all happens. And then we get into a cliched damsel in distress.

Yeah, hot chick with a broken down VW and. And a creeper in a van stops off, I said, hold on, I've got a bitch first, so we'll get to my bitch. Create this dude that looks like they may intentionally make a creeper. I'm not trying to be in a van, which is a cliche creeper thing to pulls up. He's offering to help. And she's got the because it's not the hood because it's a fucking VW says the trunk open and.

Who wears short shirts?

Yeah, it's in the back. Yeah.

She's a bubble when they're pulling up, she's like touching things in the engine with like a rag, right? She's got it open. She's looking out like she knows what she's doing. And then she's like, I think the thingy broke. And I get we get in a minute why this is being played out this way. I just thought it was weird that why are you even have like, why are you why are you even touching things? I didn't understand why. Leave it alone.

She was just playing damsel in distress. I mean, I don't think she ever once intended to like, I think that car works fine. And she just has the trunk open and then is playing stupid girl to let a stupid man let a woman into his van. Because even though he's a vampire, he still has a dick in his dung.

I know, it was just...

Well, yes, I understand that. It just seems like a waste. It just seems.

Well, it just seems like a waste of getting your hands dirty unnecessarily if you don't know what you're doing to put your hand in there. Because grease is hard to wash off.

Maybe she was taking advantage of the time and actually tuning something up. You don't know. Like maybe she was just like, I'm here, okay. Like I can see like insert whatever car thing needs to happen. She was...

Maybe that's it. That's true.

But yes, she does. She does end up getting in the van with this creepy motherfucker who is a vampire. And there's a bumper sticker that says if the vans are rocking, don't come and knock in. And it's a rockin. Yeah, it is. It's pretty funny. I appreciate that. But then we get a blood splatter and headless vampire falls out.

And then they showed the van rocking. It is.

It's not hers! no! It was a -

Yeah, and she's all like cocky about it and hops out. But our Navy demons are now there and they throw a bag on her head and.

The Kidnapped

-huh. So our next scene, this is where I get...

So, so okay, so we established earlier that those were Navy soldiers that were coming out of this Navy base in San Diego. So now Dean and Sam who are going federal are talking to a woman. Okay, well, I guess we'll first before we get to that thing, we just have to note that it smells like sulfur.

concerned. Navy. Yes, in San Diego. In San Diego.

Yeah.

Yes.

And there were dead cows every three miles. And I want to know, like, what do they do? Do they just let the cows die? Do they take them? What do you do with the dead cows? Like, and how do they like, were they seeing dead cows? Like we're, we're like, what was, I want to know more about these dead cows. It's such a third way line, but yeah. All right. So let's get our head bitch in charge. So who was our head bitch in charge?

Do they are they clocking the mileage? I don't know.

Are they displayed or were they looking for them? Like, I don't know. Yeah. Well, so we have, we have this, an MP in an army uniform with a specialist rank, which is an E4. This is a not no knock.

Mm -hmm.

This is not a high ranking person that would be running this. She would not be run or or an NCO. She would not be running. She doesn't she does an army and doesn't have her name tape on the back of her cover, which is her hat. There's exposed Velcro where a name goes on the back. And I know I know this because I've been in the military and obviously there's rules about this and they aren't allowed to make the costumes identical. Like there's rules about like.

She's not an officer. She's not an NCO. She's also Army.

You have to change just enough so it doesn't look exactly like a real US military uniform. Fine, I get it. That just seems like a weird thing. Like you could like cover that. I don't know. It just looks stupid. And it made me want to flip a table. What the fuck? Like this specialist ain't telling me shit. No offense to anybody.

But also the fact that it's just also a different branch of the military. Why is there an RVMPS on the Navy base?

It makes no sense. The army, an army MP.

I don't know because they don't that doesn't make any sense at all

Then I see it. There's a whole like television show about about the people on the Navy base that like take care of this shit. There's like 10 like 20 seasons of that shit and like multiple spinoffs. So.

Yes. Yes, there is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Makes no sense. Very weird choice. Very weird choice. Though to be clear, this is our this is specialists, even though in the credits, they call her sergeant.

Okay, so anyways

I think she introduces herself as Sergeant. Yeah.

She does. It's wrong. That's not the way. Miranda Bates. Anyways, but she's like, why the fuck? And she's all like cocky. Like, why the hell is FBI on a military case? Me? And I'm like, why are you low ranking army soldier on a Navy base? But that's what I wanted to say. Anyways. And so Dean decided they decided they're going to do like their old tricks that they would do with Bobby or Garth and called Kevin and pretend that Kevin's their boss.

So why, so is Garth like, where is Garth?

Fuck it's Garth! That's what I wanted to know too. Where's Garth?

Okay, all right, so we're just throwing Kevin into the fire. All right, go.

Kevin is unprepared and he calls himself, my notes, I'm sorry. She calls her, when she talks on the phone, she calls herself Sergeant and I wrote, I'm wrong. That's why I literally wrote that down. Anyways.

I bet you underlined it too. I could just see you feeling... Wrong!

Sorry. Anyways. I mean, I was a specialist once. It's fine. I'm just saying. Anyways.

I lost my mission work team.

Hey, you just, you know, you never know, like why she's, but she is taking over the scene. So.

She is. And she is not. She's smart enough that she's not buying Kevin Solo's story, because that's his name, apparently, on this. And she's going off on him while he is typing about him being a little boy and all this shit when he is typing furiously.

Well, he is. He is typing furiously and I appreciate that she says she... It's a thing that we haven't heard since wonderful passing of what's his... our favorite... Why am I spacing on his name? The person that helped them with Dick Roman. The passing of... She calls him the Phoebes.

yeah, she calls them the Phoebs, yep, yep. She calls them the Phoebs and she calls them Pretty Boy Agents.

to us and I appreciate, I appreciate those lines.

Yeah. And then Kevin starts describing her trip to Cabo last year with pictures of body shots on naked dudes and light luchador masks and all this shit. And she clams up and wants to know how he found that. And he says he's going to send those to her commander. And unless she lets Samadine on the crime scene.

Yeah, so I don't appreciate the sex -torsion. And I also think that, Ms. Bates, if you just, like, claimed your shit and been like, fuck yeah, I was doing that body -shart off that luchador, like, you wouldn't have a problem. I do know that it'd probably violate some of your rules and codes of honor behavior. So, like, maybe if just the army could get rid of that shit, like, there's so much bad stuff that's happening with it right now anyways, like, nobody follows that shit, like, unless they, like, get in trouble. So, like, it -

I'm -

Well, unless she has a security clearance and she didn't get permission from command to go to Mexico last year.

There's a lot of things that like the in within this like I know there's so many there's so many things in here that we get shamed for that we shouldn't have. So if then like, of course, I can't know and Mexico was taken out and you weren't allowed to whatever. Yes, he is whatever. But I'm still saying that they're shaming her into doing stuff. And so I don't appreciate I don't appreciate sex portion as a tactic. I think it's it's crass.

It might not have been about the shots. It may not have been about the body shots.

But you have to get permission to go to certain countries with a security clearance. That's all.

And you know, just if she just like, again, she was just like, yum, yum. I like tequila off this boy's stomach. Viva la Mexico. lay. Yeah, but apparently no, there are there are things and this is this is enough to to turn.

Or she should have just been like, so. Yeah. I mean, she could have just said so. I mean, apparently not.

Yeah. So they she hands the phone back after Kevin makes her call. Sir hands the phone back to the back to Dean and walks away. And Gavin's like his explanation is that all military computers on the same network. So he just hacked it.

Yeah, and it doesn't make sense because why would she put that if she's hiding those vacation pictures, why would they be on the military network? But whatever anyways.

I mean, if she's dumb enough to have her combo vacation pictures on her military computer, we got some other problems too. But also I know she's that dumb because I have worked in tech, a military basis and they are all that stupid. There's a reason why those things are strict because soldiers are dumb. So, because generally they're 18 year olds who are stupid. Anyways, okay. So we're.

Either way.

Yeah.

All right. So we go into the bodies and the bus. Bodies and the bus, which sounds like, I don't know, like a rap song or something. Bodies on the, I'm sure it is.

They think it's a they get on they get on the bus on the bus and.

It does. Yeah. It probably is. Probably is. And they discovered that all of these bodies already had years old fatal wounds. So they know for sure these were meat suits for already. So they came in as demons.

I'm so glad that you've adopted the word meat suit into your vocabulary, just like it's no big thing and you're just like, you just say meat suits like it's normal now. You're so indoctrinated.

No big thing. I mean, yeah. I mean, well, in more exciting news, Sergeant Specialist Bates shows up with security footage and it shows.

She's just gonna show them now. Okay, like, sure, whatever.

Yeah, no one said you had no one said you had to do that, but you just had to let him on anyways. But she we've got Abaddon walking by the bus with a big old smile looking straight at the camera. So she wants to be found.

It's just like almost in like a musical in that bus in that bus driver uniform like this is like some 1940s like I'm making things that nobody on the podcast can see but it was like some Vera Vera what the fuck was her name

yeah, like some World War II, like, yes.

I know.

No, so.

gosh.

I just saw her today, the chick from... I'm just going, we're going so off the rails today.

Rosemary Clooney and.

Vera the girl who I just read it was reading it there was reading a thing on her and people because they were talking about why she had chokers and turtlenecks on the whole time to cover her neck which is apparently because she had a really bad eating disorder and her neck was aging her because she was like in her 30s but her neck looks much older because of all the weight that she lost when she was anorexic. It was very sad.

White Christmas.

Vera, what's your name?

We'll come back in and tell you guys at some point in the future. Okay, so.

We then cut to an alley and somebody named Pete is getting the shit beat out of him.

Yeah, it's real weird. And they're looking for the Winchester location. And it's and he's like, I don't I don't know what it is. I kept saying, bite me, bite me, whatever. And so Abaddon gets a noose and pulls him up with it and says, I know it will hear your screams. Which is dark. You beat me to it. Beat me to it. All right.

Wow.

Vera Ellen.

Anyways, all right. So sorry. One of us was talking about the podcast. All the other one was looking up. We all have our roles in life, you know.

I love her anyways.

I'm not sure what that is. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I

to a box of phones. There's just like a box of phones sitting there. And I've

And I guess did they tell Kevin to answer these? Like, what the fuck?

Did they tell Kevin to charge these? How are these phones being charged? Is there a system? Like, do these all, cause I bet you anything, they all have different chargers. Which is why we all have somewhere just like, there is somewhere a box of like 20, like I don't know where they packed it, but somewhere somebody like in this house, I have like 40 ,000 different cable chargers because all our phones have different things. A cable, yeah. There's a trunk shit. There's an army trunk of things out there, but yeah.

yeah, they're all different types. 10 chords.

You have a cable box, a box full of cords.

So all these phones have somehow stayed charged and one of them rings in the bunker and Kevin answers. It's Abby.

Mm hmm. And Avedon's like, hey, I'm called Dean's number, but you're not a Winchester, so you need to give him a message for me. I have something they might want. And she has two hunters tied and gagged. One of them being our chick from earlier and the other one being Irv that Dean talked to earlier. That's such an awkward name to say.

I just can't take Irv the Hunter seriously, but alright.

No. So.

So the Winchester boys don't know Tracy, but they horse know Irv.

And they're like, well, I guess we got to go save them because she's going to kill them. And I was like, who the fuck is this chick anyways? And Danes like, look, I need you to look up everything that the men of letters have on the Knights of Hell. Find a way to kill one.

See, Kevin has been tasked with my dream job once again. I just want to be the bunker archivist last librarian. So Kevin has been tasked to go through the archive and find out everything they have on Knights of Hell and how to kill one.

you

while Sam and Dean are going to walk, go, go.

Why didn't they just give Charlie a job as a librarian there? This would make so much more sense, right? You have somebody who could actually be your reference librarian answering these questions. You clearly need a reference librarian.

question.

I would.

I do. Makes sense. Yeah. And so Sam and Dean are going to drive straight into a trap guns blazing in Eugene, Oregon. Or outside, just outside of it, at least.

Alright, you can go to at least a telemc factory and get some cheese and ice cream

All right. So Crowley is still remembering this in the dungeon, the dungeon next to the file room. What the fuck? And.

He's reminiscing. He's reminisc - like that is - he's like remembering all the good times he had being tortured.

Is that what's happening?

I feel like it is, like he's, cause he's going through like all this, I wanna be loved and all these things that he remembers him as, he's thinking hard on this.

Well, he realized that Kevin has come in. And so now he first calls out to him and gets ignored, then mocks him. And then Kevin gives in and comes to see.

And again, like it's just not configured right for a dungeon. You shouldn't have to go to get your research materials next to your torture victim.

Seems messy. So in New Gene, Oregon, right outside of it, Sam and Dean have arrived in an abandoned town that a local chemical plant.

It's like your abandoned warehouse has been multiplied.

It's like, so this is abandoned town with like because of a chemical plant spill.

It's three square blocks. So I'm like, first I thought it was the abandoned town, right? But then I think it's just kind of, they've just abandoned like these few blocks.

Mm -hmm.

section of town.

Perhaps, I don't know, but also it's just like, damn, this is a commentary on the states of the world where we don't kind of really question this too much. We're like, yeah, that can happen.

I did. I'm like, this is not real. This is bullshit. There is nowhere like that here. Anyways, I mean, like Chernobyl.

yeah, we almost had that as our lore for tonight. I seriously was starting to go down the rabbit hole, different plant towns that were abandoned. But the problem is that most of the news, like most of the references are to things that are like, like ghost town ghost towns, like things that were pre 1900s. And I know there, there are a few places like where, you know, because it happens a lot with like crossover with the cryptid stuff because where people can't go, like because militaries have closed off because of things that have happened.

Yeah. Yeah.

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like Midwest and the East Coast is like pretty industrial. There are like little places that have been closed down for that. So we almost have that as lore, but I went for something else tonight. So yeah, maybe in future we'll go down that rabbit hole some more. It does exist. I didn't, I, this was, I didn't, you know, you were like, no, it couldn't happen, but now it happens.

Well, I'm just saying I didn't I wasn't like decent says I'm like, that's not real. But anyway, that's not that was my take. But either way, the biggest thing is that as they enter this town is that when Dean finds out that this is the everything there is poisoned, he immediately covers his junk.

Because he thinks that his hand can protect his junk and honestly man like you put your dick in so many places I don't really think that the chemicals Yeah, you maybe like your dick needs to go through these chemicals a little bit like get a little radiation may do you some good? Alright, so they've said that like the demons have now in this trap situation Which they just don't question this which I think is weird

That's what you're worried about.

cleanse.

the, because they know it's a trap. And they're like, they have just left you here, tied up. And we're not going to be preparing for snipers. Cause that's pretty much what I would think, right? If there's no people, you're coming at me from someplace else.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know.

Right. But instead Sam and Dean just go into Ozzy O's diner, which is where they hear noises, which is where our, our tossages are waiting. Yeah. So, hunter hostages. So they, they are forced to take shots of holy water and then they are released.

Hasages, Irving Tracy, Hunter Hasages, A .J. Just.

Could you at least add some vodka to that or something? Like, if I'm gonna do this, can you at least put some booze in?

No.

And then, and so Sam introduces himself to Tracy and she is not interested in meeting Mr. Winchester and just says good for you. And Irv's comment is she's new, smart, got a mouth on her. Thanks Irv.

Ew, gross. I don't like when men say women have a mouth on them. That's gross. So, at the bunker, Kevin wants Crowley to tell him how to kill a knight of hell. This is like the shortcut, like, did you just get tired of research? And you're like, I'm just gonna go to Crowley. This seems easier.

Yeah, because now this is he's sick. Fuck it. I'll just go do this.

So...

No, I think I think he was just like, fuck this. Crowley thinks I'm scared. I'm just going to go confront Crowley and ask him for what the information I need is. We've got him. Why not use it? I think that was the take. But yeah. So Crowley is like, I'll use that info to negotiate this release. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And. And he says that he would spit roast that little horror for you talking about.

No, it's gross. But we get a whole bunch of psychological torture. Did I kill your mom? And basically he just invites Kevin to let it all out.

Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. And so Kevin just starts hitting Crowley. And notices the torture stuff, but back at Ozzie's diner, Dean has been inventorying their weapons to escape the poison down. I don't know whatever the fuck you want to call it. They've got Jesus juice.

Poison Town sounds like, well, either something like maybe the next like cock -rock cruise like you go on, like, or a really fun, like I would go to the amusement park of Poison Town. That was all just about the band Poison. And, you know, every ride was just like, you know, just big hair guys like going through.

Ha!

themed. Well, they've got Jesus juice. They've got guns with the devil's trap bullets and angel blades.

That sounds like a guitar.

guitar solo. And while they're while they're sitting in there doing this inventory, two of our demon sailors approach with rifles, which they immediately call a

And for some reason, like that scares Dean. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Yep, yep, yep, that'll be so. But then like, they start hearing Dean's voice say, come and get it, you dicks.

Yeah, like they're all worried. no.

It's very weird.

Yep. Yep. And so the two sailors burst in and it is cleverly a voice recording on a cell phone setup. It was a trap. The trap was flipped.

You're trapped, Bibi Kim trapped.

still like you know they had to be watching you because it was a trap. These traps are bad. Most of them just maybe really all of them are bad like it's just like the trappers were just like cartoony bad and what they do. Yeah this is all cartoon level of crap.

It's all bad. Well, apparently Dean announces they've got a flank SEAL Team douche. So he wants them to split off like with Sam and and Tracy and Dean with Irv. But she's like then Sam like walks into her really awkwardly, which I'd be annoyed about too. And then she's like, don't touch me. And then and he's like, whoa, sorry. And she then explains that her family is dead because of him.

She watched a demon slaughter her parents in celebration because some dumb kid let Lucifer out of his cage.

Girl, that's what you're mad about? That was like 10 seasons ago. So there's so many more things you'd be mad about St. Winchester for since then. And if you're going back to with Lucifer, shit, girl, like you don't even know. You need to take a seat, Tracy, and we need to have some real time talk.

I know I'm like.

Right

Good Lord. And so Dean's just like, whatever, I'll go with Tracy. Sam, go with her. And so back in the bunker, Kevin now has a very bloody sledgehammer that he has been, I guess, beating the fuck out of Crowley.

EEEEH

I wonder how much that costs.

Which, what do you mean? Nevermind.

just because I paid $30 for a hammer this week, so I want to know how much that sledgehammer cost. Anyway, so, yeah. But, Crowley... So Crowley is offering Kevin, his mom, in exchange for his freedom.

that's. I was like, wait, which part?

Mm hmm. Yeah. And he's really but then he turns into a higher level manipulation. I say Wednesday higher, he piles on the manipulation. The mom stuff's bad, real bad. That's real dark. And now he's added on by the way, what are we even doing here? Sam and Dean don't care about your mom. They don't care about you. You're gonna lose everything. You're gonna be tossed aside by them, because they can. And there's another prophet waiting. You're both prisoners basically.

All they want from you is for you to translate. That's it.

Yeah, so he's just trying to get in his head and just be like, Kevin, why are you trusting this Winchester's? They're just gonna let you die. I'm your friend. I'm your king.

Why don't we leave together?

And we could just leave together. We'd both win.

So we don't know how Kevin's feeling about this. So we just got to cut from there to the town, to Poison Town.

Yeah. And Dean and Tracy are sneaky sneaking around and Dean tries to be like, look, you know, Sam's not the only one who thought he was doing the right thing and saw it go to crap. That's part of being. And she interrupts a hunter and Dean's like a human.

I'm just letting that sit for a minute. You're welcome for that. That made my eye twitch a little bit. But anyways, and he's like, it's fine to be pissed, but but you really if you want someone to go after you should be going after monsters like demons.

Yeah.

Yeah, you should be going after the real monsters in this poison town where every rose has its thorn. So Irv wants to go and do a suicide run because he is now blaming himself because Avedon has got him all twisted up. And he is just like, this is all my fault.

Well, he is the one apparently Abanon got to him and he gave up Pete and Tracy. So Pete's dead because of him already. Tracy's got kidnapped because of him. And as he's going on this whole spiel, he didn't even get to go on the death run that was suicide run that would have actually probably helped them because he gets shot by the fucking sniper.

Yes.

He does. He gets shot and it just sucks. And then Sam goes and yeah.

I am impressed because Sam clips the scope with one of his shots on this. Did you notice that?

No, I did not. I don't pay attention when Sam Winchester shoots things. So now he has gotten better. He at least Sam has gotten Sam has learned how to shoot. I will stop giving him so much shit. So Sam's character has at least learned how to, you know, anyways, so, you're

I know, that's why I was so impressed!

I know. Yes.

Yeah.

He runs. What did the cat do?

We need a minute. We need to cut this.

She's in the litter box.

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And that way I have the giggles.

That is... she needs a break!

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I really didn't think that was a litter box.

Bitch (55:15.602)

Okay. Okay. Are we done, Ms. Anya?

or at least she has bolts in from the litter box. Okay. Okay, so where do you want to come back in at?

We just finished we were talking about his his shooting.

Have a Sam gone inside yet? After he said he got shot, you were talking about Sam getting clipped. Yeah.

Sam clipped the scope and then we need to say that he's going into the building.

Yeah, okay.

So Sam runs back into the building and one of the sailors is waiting for him there.

Yeah, so he gets caught.

outside Abaddon sneaks up on Dean and Tracy is going to be a bad bitch and shoots her a whole bunch of times. But Abaddon's discovered Kevlar and she loves the future.

because Kevlar beats Magic Bullets. Which I really think should be like their, this are commercials for a while. I would go just go with that. Kevlar beats Magic Bullets. I would put that on there. That is the future. And this is also a habit. I mean, I appreciate that. And Avidon appreciated Tracy's grouping. She went for a center mask, but if she had aim for head, you know, would've missed, you know.

That is the future.

Yeah.

Why? Why did she not aim for her head? That was making my brain hurt.

She was pretty close, I mean, they were, but you know, okay. So, Avidon leaves.

And so Dean throws holy water in her face and then gives Tracy the keys to baby.

This chick that you just met, you're just giving her the keys to your car or whatever. Fine.

Just met. I know. And says to go get bullets and holy water. OK. And so.

That seems like something you should have brought with you. Why did you not bring the bullets of holy water with you on this? Did you?

Why? You didn't bring enough. They didn't bring enough, apparently. Just not enough. They knew they were going to go in guns blazing to this trap. So why'd you leave shit in the car? Whatever. So he pulls an angel blade. And now basically Dean and Avedon are in hand to hand combat, which is probably not great. Back in the diner, Sam and our sailor are in hand to hand combat. And now there's more. So now it's him with all

Mmm.

three of the sailors fighting in the diner while totally leaving his ass kicked. And Abaddon gets Dean on his knees and is monologuing a bit about the Winchesters and their obedience and being suicidally stupid. But Dean.

Yeah, he's just getting his ass -handles at him.

Dean wants to know if they're gonna fight or make out because he's getting some really mixed signals. And I also would have a hard time not making out with her if she, I mean, it's fair.

Well Abaddon just basically says I want Crowley and in exchange I'll just let you die quickly by snapping your neck.

and I'll possess you while I eat babies. I will eat babies and make you like watch me eat babies while I am inside of you.

Yeah.

Well, hold on. I like to peel off your anti -possession tattoo and blow smoke up your ass and ask specifically if he's ever felt an infant's blood drip down his chin. This bitch is dark.

She's dark and also kinky. Everybody likes little ass blowing. That's her, whose is preferred method of entrance is those fainter. Sometimes I guess I didn't, you can go in whichever way you want to go, I guess. Is that a demon enema?

Yeah. Well, Sam is tall.

I guess, just got a pick an Orphus? I don't know. Demon enema?

Or is it a colonic?

anyhow.

de minima. All right. So Sam is just getting totally his ass kicked. But all of a sudden his eyes turn bright blue and he goes full fucking angel kind of because his wings are real crappy looking because he's got the shadow and they are like there's like only like the little feathers are real sad. It's really, really well done. I'm just not gonna lie. I was like, media visual.

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Do do do do.

I don't know, they're just so pathetic. The rules, pathetic is wings, I love them. It's like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree of angel wings.

And then we got. It is of wings, it is exactly. And the sailors kind of stopped, they're like the fuck and even Abaddon and Dean hear this noise and see this bright light flash from the diner and Abaddon's like an angel and Dean's like, yeah, what do you think we're going to come in firepower? You know, because he's got to say something. Sure, totally. This is totally the plan. Yeah.

Yeah, I knew there was an angel here. Yeah, that's fine. I was totally planning on this. Yeah, totally. Yep, that was my plan.

And so she throws Dean into a window and disappears, which I think is interesting. Like, why is she suddenly? Why is this the line?

Yeah, so this clothing store in this town, but also in Poison Town. So in the town of Poison Town, so the people had to leave so fast, they had to leave with the clothes on the mannequins and

There's a storefront with mannequins.

No, that didn't happen. That's not accurate. I'm just kidding. It makes no sense. so yeah, it's nonsense. And so Dean goes into the diner and wants to know what the fuck Ezekiel did. And Ezekiel is like, they were going to kill Sam. So I protected him. You told me to protect him. I don't know. He's been unconscious this whole time. He's not going to remember this.

By the way, here's this knife that I just used to cut the throat of the already dead sailors so that we could convince Sam that you killed them instead of Sam or whatever angel blast. And so Dean's like, okay, I, I, whatever. I'm, I'm, I'm upset about this, but whatever.

They have a whole thing about not closing the gates of hell, but Dean's not really with this this whole plan at all, but he's going to trust Zeke because he has to trust that Zeke's one of the good guys.

And Zeke says tries to assure Dean that of course I'm one of the good guys and that Dean's doing the right thing.

So before Sam wakes up, Dean.

No, no, sorry, we're gonna have to stop. We're gonna go in there. I'm just waiting for the litter box to stop. Like, can you not hear that? Okay, Dave can just cut out my audio from that part and it'll be fine. So like, you can just be talking, which is why I was gonna let you go, but I wanted to wait for it also now it smells really bad in here because it opened up the back of the thing with the litter box. It's still making noises.

I'm just gonna keep going.

Yeah, I figured.

my god, why do you smell so bad?

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Are we done?

Ha ha.

What are you doing?

It started going again.

If I just unplug it, like, during the show, it probably is the best strategy.

my gosh.

Bitch (01:03:04.05)

Okay, so if you can queue back in to let's go with Z because like talking about how he's one of the good guys, but that's what a bad guy would say. And then we can go through that and we'll go into the bad lips.

All right.

Okay.

All right. So obviously only, you know, bad guys would say that they're good guys.

Right. So Zeke is professing, I'm one of the good guys. Bad guys would say that. But I think there's also bad guys would say that over Twitter. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to find a way to transition into the torture I'm putting you through. But maybe it's not torture. It's fun. It's bad lives. Sort of. So during this episode, Patalecki and a few others were live tweeting.

Mad Libs.

And as nothing ever goes away on the internet, we do have access to the tweets that were coming out during this episode. There are many episodes I like to tweet for, but we're just gonna do it for this one. So I am taking tweets from some of the actors and the network during this episode, and I'm pulling out some words from them.

and we're going to do this a Madly game. So I'm going to be asking you for to help me film the blanks, right? You ready? Mad mad world. I remember in college. All right. So this first tweet that came out was from the CW and for this one, I need a noun.

pencil.

Okay, so the tweet the CW set out now they said they tweeted Dean has some pencil in the trunk and by pencil we mean Crowley obviously all new hashtag Supernatural tonight and eat blah blah blah. So they actually tweeted the CW Dean has some junk in the truck and by junk we mean Crowley obviously but I appreciate pencil.

I appreciate that too. Yeah.

Okay. So this next one as I started pulling these from the supernatural Wiki, but the supernatural Wiki goes to a split. You had to go back through the inner archive, but long story short, not all the tweets were available from that. And I had to go back into the Twitter world. It was, I had a set of day. And so some of these tweets from Jar Pad, which is Jared Padalecki from the archive where I was pulling.

from was translating it as Jared Badalecki and I kind of like Jared Badalecki more. So I need to know what Jared Badalecki was tweeting and for that I need a verb, a noun and a noun. So a verb, yes.

You

A verb, a noun, and a noun.

So a verb.

Dancing?

or dance, whatever tense you need.

Yes, we'll go. So now what?

guitar

and noun to you.

Okay, so Jared Badalecki tweeted, live dance, here we go. That actually is guitar under the Cadillac.

Do you wanna guess what he was tweeting? And so he tweeted, live tweet, here we go. That actually is Mark under the hood. I think he meant drunk, but you know, like give him some, give him some lib room.

Tell me.

Yeah. Lid. Yeah, whatever. That's funny.

What?

All right, so our next tweet comes from Badonka Donkey, AKA Ossert Chow, AKA Kevin Tran. So for his tweet, we need an adjective.

bloody.

So his tweet said, every scene with at Mark Sheppard bloody is a good one. And frankly, his one was like, what he said was every scene with Mark Sheppard tied up is a good one. Yeah.

There you go. That works.

OK, I wasn't too far off on that one.

Let's see what else Kevin Troun had to say. So for this one, I need a noun.

And now.

Gosh, I don't know why I'm blanking.

Let's go with dog.

I need a place.

Eugene.

and an adjective.

descriptive.

descriptive word.

Beautiful.

So Kevin Tran said, Oscar Chow said, one day I will take a dog before going to Eugene. Then Kevin can be beautiful for once. His actual tweet was, one day I will take a shower before going to work. Then Kevin can be clean for once.

All right, so these next to the ones we're just going straight up Jared battle lucky So all the rest of these are coming from him. And so we're gonna need an adjective

Okay.

I know I'm just trying to think of a good one. I don't know. Let's go with.

Fancy.

Okay, and I need a nap.

Let's go with.

Indescriptive word.

Painting. Like a painting.

Mm -hmm and then I need another adjective

Jerk (01:09:49.998)

Painful? Is that... that's an additive, right?

Sure, that describes how something is. I need another one.

Another adjective.

Mm -hmm.

let's go with warm.

Okay. And I need another noun, a thing.

plural thing too. So something pools. I need a plural.

swimming pool. A what?

swimming pools.

So what Jared said was, it was so fancy in the painting under the camera frame. My shirt was painful and warm and so were my swimming pools.

Okay.

What he actually tweeted was, it was so hot in the bus. Under the camera frame, my shirt was untucked and unbuttoned. And so were my pants.

Yep, yep, that is lead a supernatural tweeting Jared Padalecki. Okay, so once again, another Jared Padalecki tweet. I need a verb, an action.

Ahhhh!

running.

I need a measure of time, a minute.

millisecond.

That's a thing, right?

Yes, that is a measure of time. An adjective.

slowly.

and announce.

possum

So Jared tweeted, see his live tweeting. I ran during the running and shooting shots. For a millisecond, you feel so slowly, you feel so slow that you almost forgot that you're wearing a possum.

I like that one.

I do like imagining Jared Padalecki wearing a possum. So his, in fighting one, so in his actual tweet was, I love doing the running and shooting shots. For a second, you feel so tough that you almost forget you're wearing makeup. Ooh, damn boy. You actually, so, okay. All right. So we've got two more, two more painful things to take in. We're almost done. We're almost done, but I think it's fun. All right. So again, we're going Jared.

wearing a possum running wearing a possum

Let's play.

Yeah, thank you. Thanks.

And so we need two nouns.

Hammer.

Okay.

and Dolly.

So, Jared tweeted, and that was my first hammer as a dolly.

you

And what he actually tweeted was, and that was my first scene as an angel.

And our last thing that Jared Padalecki tweeted, and this is not during his live tweet, it was the next day. So I need one adjective and one.

Adjective. Let's go with.

to describe the noun, those two are gonna go together.

Okay.

So like, gnarly van, something like that.

Let's go with Gnarly Van. There we go.

Damn it, I didn't mean to influence you that much.

Alright, so what he tweeted was, thanks for watching last night. Hope y 'all liked my gnarly van. Cue Mr. Mr. Hashtag 80s music rocks.

Ha!

And what Mr. Patalecki actually tweeted was, thanks for watching last night. Hope y 'all liked my broken wings. Cue Mr. Mr. 80s music hashtag 80s music rocks. You fucking nerd, Mr. Patalecki. You are fucking dork. And that is, whoever tweeted that for you. Either way, dork. So that was our end of our Mad Mad Lib World.

Dark, dark, dark.

I hope you enjoyed your torture tonight.

I wish I was better at it. I feel like I'm not better. I'm just like slow and not clever.

It's just another thing that we do often, right? Like how many times in your past like years has someone said, hey, name a noun. You know, what the fuck is a noun?

Give me a down.

I'm like person place thing, person place thing, person place thing frantically in my head.

Well, and then I was like, and to be fair, like I was trying to run these things like through chat, GBT and other stuff. And they'd be like, that's a gerund. And I'm like, no, that's not what I need. Like I need to know. Like, it was like, tell me like I'm stupid. anyways, we all love that though. All right. So we are going back to Sam's Zekiel, but in the ZEK form.

Ha ha ha.

The basics. Yeah. So.

which damning Dean Manchester, I went with Zeke first, but I also appreciate that none of us wants to take out the time to write out or say a Zeke.

Yeah. Well, and basically this is the they've just finished off our whole conversation about Zeke kind of trying to convince both the trackment Sam or Dean and Dean trying to convince himself that Zeke's one of the good guys. And Ezekiel tries to reassure Sam that he's doing the right thing.

Zeke, my God. Zeke tries to reassure Dean that he is doing the right thing.

Yes. And then Sam actually wakes up like from back in his position on the floor where he was unconscious and Dan pretends that he's the one that killed these three demons alone because he caught them by surprise or some shit because he's like, it was very messy. I'm very lucky.

Well, and that's why Zeke slit their throats. So, so much like... Yeah. Or so much like Vera Allen, they can cover up their... their... their nuts, which were just not looking that great. It's... so... Anyways, it's all just fucking weird and lies, and it's gross, and I don't like it.

So that Dane could tell this lie.

Is that what it is?

Yeah.

Well, Tracy pulls up in baby then and no, and then she just like basically hops in the backseat and then they all tear out of town.

I also don't like that.

and then go to the bunker and Tracy is gone.

Yeah, she's gone. And I don't think we ever see her again.

No.

I've, I, she was, her credits, this was the only, she had one episode. Very weird. Very weird.

Maybe this is like the less problematic version of Comeback Tracy that Screeching Weasel should have done. Alright, so for that inside joke, we'll move on to Dean with a bucket of chicken and some prune juice.

So.

Yeah, and they're looking for Kevin, but he ain't there. But...

So you're just like letting that slide that he was a bucket of chicken and some prune juice. Okay.

no, I noticed. He's trying to help out Kevin, to help Kevin's stomach out. And Crowley is still in the dungeon. So that means that Kevin did not cave to Crowley's manipulations. So that's good -ish. Well, probably not.

You know, I mean, maybe. We don't know. Like, he's worked over, though. We know he's gone. We can't find him.

Yeah, but he is real worked over. He looks real bad. And Crowley is like, hey, I'm going to give you guys two demon names right now. They're underperformers. You should be do me a favor. And he gives them two names. And,

But it's not for free.

No. Yes. And basically, he wants in exchange for the enjoyment that Kevin gave him. And he was very amused that he was like a toy that he could wind him up. That's what he's giving them. This is because they because Kevin beat the shit out of Crowley, Crowley is giving Sam and Dean two names. That's basically what he's saying.

It was because Crowley was fucking with him and all he wanted to do was fuck with Kevin's hat and he was like, this is like you were paying you off for this. I really like I got off on that, which is gross. And so they leave him alone again to try and find Kevin.

Yeah. And Kevin's still in the bunker and he's but not for long. He's got his backpack and he is trying to leave and he is he's done. He's mad. He's out. Well, that too.

Now he wants to find his mom, which I think is like a legit fucking thing. And I don't understand why the Winchesters are not on board to help Kevin solve the mystery of whether or not Linda Trana is dead or not. Like that seems like... But they don't know. They never saw a body. They don't like, they just, all they know is that Crowley said that he killed her. And like, if I was...

I just don't think that's a question. I feel like she's dead. I think this is. That's true.

Sam or Dean and that was Mary and all I had was Crowley telling me that Mary was dead. I would be going out for him and you just have like this shit that like where Dean is trying to look what Dean's about to do, right? So why are they not on board with helping Kevin trying to find out if his mom like I feel like they should be with him right now doing this.

That's reasonable. You're right. You're right.

That's true.

No, that's a good that's a that's a good point. I didn't go that hard on that. So but Dean is telling telling Kevin that Crowley is messing with your head. Crowley is lying about your mom being alive. And I know that you want to bolt. But, you know, we, you know, you're everybody's, you know, looking for the profit. And and Kevin's like, what am I useful? And Dean calls him family. Take off after all the crap we've been through, we would die for you.

Okay.

We're family, you're all the...

You, me, Sam and Castiel are all the family we've got. Kevin's crying, that's very sad.

But you're also telling him to abandon his other family, which I feel is something a cult leader would do. And Kevin, you who joined a cult of the Winchesters, I am sorry. That is, you're just like, now there's only four people in your cult, right? But I feel like you've been isolated, you have been taken away from everything that you've loved, and now they're telling you you're a prophet of the Lord. Yep, you joined a fucking cult. Sorry, Kevin Tran.

Jerk (01:20:14.062)

Yep, that's true. You're right. All the markings are there. We missed it.

Yeah, coming to Netflix soon, the cult of the Manchester's, the twin flames of Kevin Tran. So, so apparently all of us words, because he's just like, fine, I'm just going to go to sleep, which I appreciate. I often take that strategy.

Right?

Huh!

So Sam and Dean sit down, they're talking. Sam's researching and Dean's pouring whiskey. Yeah. And Sam's, you know, revisiting what Tracy said.

And she's just like, let's have some whiskey.

So do you think this is Men of Letters whiskey or is it like, is it whiskey they brought in or are they just like hitting the Men of Letters stash? Because I bet the Men of Letters had a really good stash of whiskey.

I start. It's way right. It was probably way better than any shit Dane would buy.

Deema probably, we all know he drives a rocket. So anyways, all right. So Deema's pouring whiskey from, because the other way he's put it into decanter, whatever is happening, he has moved into decanting whiskey.

Yeah.

Which is pretty, it's a big step.

I think it was a big grown -up step.

Well, Sam is talking about he's very upset about what Tracy had said. And because he's like, it's not wrong. And Dean's like, look, I get it. But you have to keep in mind that you also have helped more people than you've hurt. And we need to look forward, not back. And so they toast to the now. And anyway, so they're they've kind of like.

Tim actually is sharing about how he's the first time he's happy and his, you know, I looked around and see himself surrounded by friends and family and he's happy with life for the first time in forever. And Dean's just like, fuck and slams his whiskey.

Bunker.

Yep, he agrees with him that things never went better and he downs this whiskey because he's full of lies and probably still robs this. But yeah, so, all right, let's shudder some cast members and we can wrap up some final thoughts on this.

All right, so we've got first off, we'll touch on our demonic grandmother, our degree, grandma demon.

Granny! I did, I left out a tweet from one of the former Supernatural executives, like secu - executive producers that was just like, Grammy, I already miss you.

funny. Well, that was Paula Shaw. She her career goes back to the 70s. She's an episode of Shaft, Starsky and Hutch, Little House on the Prairie, General Hospital, 21 Jump Street, Young and the Restless over 10 times, X -Files, iZombie, Van Helsing. She was also Jason's mom in Freddy vs. Jason, and has done a lot of the Hallmark Christmas movies. One of our sailors that they call crew cut in the

in the credits is Jesse Hutch, who actually does a lot of stunts. He did stunts in True Calling, Smallville and in Supernatural. And also appeared in episodes of those shows, as well as V and Hellcats and Once Upon a Time. He was also Trey in Freddy vs. Jason, Spencer in Butterfly Effect, Officer Daly in Arrow, which is a reoccurring character, Agent Russell

Havarov in another character in Batwoman appearing over 10 times. And he's also done a lot of Hallmark Christmas movies. Irv Franklin was played by Paul Ray. Episodes of Sabrina the Teenage Witch, CSI, Star Trek Enterprise. Teenage Witch, yeah, yeah, yeah. With Clarissa. With Clarissa, you like that? Anyways.

Which Serena, the original? okay, yeah.

Star Trek Enterprise, Desperate Housewives, NCIS, Malcolm the Middle, House, Fringe, Memphis Beat, Justified, Mad Men, True Blood and more. He was Emmet Quincy in the movie True Grit and was the chicken impresario in the Ballad of Buster Scruggs.

Hehehe

What a great meet to after all. yeah.

So Tracy Bell is our other hunter. It was played by Olivia Ryan Stern. Been in episodes of Hellcats, a few episodes of Continuum, a few episodes of Van Helsing, and was a reoccurring character named Tina Patel on Riverdale. Our Sergeant, Miranda Bates, was played by Carmen Moore. She's been in episodes of Stargate SG -1, 4400, Smallville, Hellcats, iZombie, Bates, Motel, Arrow.

D -D -

was a reoccurring character on the TV show Nancy Drew named Hannah and was on The Flash as Kristen over 20 times.

Well, yeah, quite a cast. They brought in there was a there was a lot of people in this episode. So. So what did you think?

Okay

It was good. I thought it was I just felt like this, like these random ass hunters that like we didn't know where they came from, like Pete and Tracy. And then they're gone was very confusing.

They do, I think, like the show does a very bad job of the Hunter network, especially at this point, right? Like, I feel like they...

Like I don't need a map. I don't need to know everybody's name in advance. I just need to understand that like, don't treat me like I should know who this is.

Ahem.

think it would just be so much cooler if you'd had like kind of you know that network be more of a thing right so like maybe at some point you ran into or Tracy like so you actually gave a damn about what the fuck is happening to these people because you just insert a random character into an episode I like you expect us to automatically have sympathy for them because they're a hunter and they're on the side of good

I guess. Yeah.

Well, like we don't even know like why we care that Pete's getting hung for the location of the Winchesters. What if he's a bad guy? I don't know. Like, I don't know. It's just kind of odd. Bad hunters.

We've certainly met, we've had hunters in the past that were not the greatest, right? So before I start giving a shit about these people, I want to know why. And so I felt like...

Yeah. So I thought that was weird.

Yeah, look, give me something. Yeah, that was weird. you know, we pointed out a lot of like the funny inconsistencies in the store in the in it, but that's about it. The military things. But but also, once again, I understand some of it. So that was just kind of funny and a little incongruous, if you will. But yeah, that was an

the military things that just went weird, real weird.

And I'm sure it's something they have to be very well aware of, because the internet is loud.

I feel like they really just needed an episode that bordered on like, it's not a monster of the week because it's definitely carrying on the Abaddon thing. But I felt like they needed like just an action episode, but that still was driving the storyline. And I think that's what they did. I don't know if I loved it, but I think that's what they did successfully.

There.

And we also had them setting up for the season, right? There were so many references to like what the story, they're like, we're gonna have, and then like, and we're gonna have all these things and it's gonna be a hell of a year. And just like, okay, so we're gonna have, what was your thing from earlier? Like the angel Z's and demon Z's and.

yeah. What is the story that's going to happen? What Abaddon Crowley?

Angel -y, demon -y, monster -y, and ghost -y.

Yeah, so I feel like that was a very good setup for the season, right? I know, so we're still in episode two, but, and I'm glad that Abaddon is stretching out her boss, she's having her she -boss moment and trying to do her take down. So at least that's happening.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

any you know but so not a bummer episode that you know it was just a it was just a

No.

It was important setup, I get that, but it was fine.

Exposition, I guess? Season... Season 9?

Season nine, Kevin Tran, what the fuck? Like, why are you like, and then like, they're just, we're just gonna ignore this Kevin Tran's mom thing, like, just like me like, Nora Crowley in a trunk. I feel like is this, are the Winters just procrastinating? Is that just, we're just adopting into, which I'm not opposed to, I'm procrastinating a bunch of shit right now. So I think we're all just like,

Maybe that's why they need more. Maybe they need more. They just need more cult members to do things for them.

Yeah, I think we finally figured out their cult though. We got it. Let's go in and try it again. And sometimes your cult members just get killed, it happens. So on that note, cheers jerk.

Stupid.