An insightful examination of traditional astrology reveals the nuanced relationship between celestial influences and human experience, particularly in the context of gender roles and the timing of life events. The speakers embark on a comprehensive discussion that dispels the conventional understanding of masculinity and femininity within astrology. Rather than aligning these attributes strictly with gender, they emphasize that traditional astrology relates them to different aspects of time and action. They articulate how masculine signs are often associated with earlier life events and experiences, while feminine signs correspond to occurrences that tend to manifest later. This perspective invites listeners to consider the broader implications of timing in their lives and how it influences the lessons they learn throughout their journeys. As the conversation unfolds, the speakers delve deeper into the interplay between timing, trauma, and personal evolution. They raise poignant questions about the nature of trauma and its potential to either hinder or facilitate growth. By positing that not all planetary influences are active simultaneously, they highlight the importance of timing in allowing individuals to process their experiences without becoming overwhelmed. This exploration leads to the assertion that the universe orchestrates events in a manner that serves our personal development, suggesting that some lessons may be better learned at specific times rather than prematurely. Such reflections encourage listeners to embrace the timing of their experiences as part of their unique life paths. Ultimately, the episode encapsulates a rich narrative that intertwines astrology with personal growth, advocating for a deeper understanding of how celestial influences shape our experiences and the timing of our life's lessons. By recognizing that each individual operates on their own distinct timeline, shaped by both universal forces and personal circumstances, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their journeys with greater insight and acceptance. The speakers effectively convey the message that understanding the cosmic order can illuminate our paths, guiding us through the complexities of life with clarity and purpose.
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Speaker A:But you know, if we're gonna stick to.
Speaker A:If we're gonna talk about traditional gender
Speaker B:roles, well, well, you gotta remember when it comes to traditional astrology, it gen. Masculine and feminine had nothing to do with gender roles.
Speaker B:It actually has to do with time.
Speaker B:Receiving.
Speaker B:Initiating action and, and receiving action and time.
Speaker B:So true.
Speaker B:So in all actuality, things in masculine signs, timing wise, happen.
Speaker B:Can happen earlier in life and things in more feminine areas and stuff could happen later in life.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because of the.
Speaker A:How slow they are.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And, and you have to remember, not remember, even though, even though.
Speaker B:That you got all those planets and all that stuff in your chart, not everything is active at the same time.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:We would, you know, if every planet was active at the same time in your chart, we probably would go crazy.
Speaker A:It would be very chaotic.
Speaker A:Well, the universe has an order for a reason.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:And, and, and we are all on, you know, you ever heard that saying, we all are on our own time.
Speaker B:Time frame.
Speaker B:And maybe it wasn't time for you to know yet or learn that lesson yet.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe it would have done you more harm than good to learn it, you know, at a time where you weren't supposed to learn it or.
Speaker B:Yes, you had to go through a couple of more things before you was gonna get it.
Speaker A:But isn't that, don't you think, and I know we're going a little bit off topic here, but don't you think that's technically what trauma is?
Speaker B:Trauma?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, yeah, but, but some, some people, some people grow and evolve from their trauma and some people get stuck.
Speaker B:Stuck in their trauma.
Speaker A:Very true.
Speaker B:Wouldn't that, wouldn't that be what life is actually about?
Speaker A:Yeah, I just meant it more like the like kind of, you know, when you just mentioned of like, sometimes, like, things will happen in your life and we want them basically.
Speaker A:We don't have any control over, like, when they're gonna happen, you know, but also, what if there's one thing that, like, happened or that you wanted to happen, you know, could have happened later on in life or.
Speaker B:Yeah, maybe it wasn't.
Speaker B:Maybe it wasn't time for it to happen yet.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Maybe, Maybe.
Speaker B:What does that mean?
Speaker B:You wasn't, you wasn't ready to win the lottery because you didn't know how to handle money.
Speaker B:So maybe you needed to go through some things to learn how to handle some money before you.
Speaker B:The universe blessed you with winning the lottery.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Or, or what if, like, you know, what if you couldn't have a you really wanted a business but the business wasn't manifesting because you didn't know how to manage your time and your business so you had to learn some lessons about managing your time before it landed on your lap.
Speaker B:Well speaking a lot just to bring this back full circle do you know looking at how how feminine and how masculine a planet is helps determine if you're wasting your time trying something because no matter how how many times you buy a lottery ticket it's just written in the stars you ain't gonna be rich this lifetime and looking at how the gender hump the condition of the planet the gender of a planet points to some of that yeah that's one aspect plus you still have other parts of delineation just to figure out what this signification of this point of this chart means.
Speaker A:So would you say that someone if they wanted to know if they could win the lottery or not they should go see an astrologer?
Speaker B:Yes.