The discourse on gender and its intricate relationship with planetary conditions unfolds with an exploration into the multifaceted nature of identity. Speaker A posits that gender represents merely one facet of existence, suggesting a broader cosmological framework that transcends simplistic categorizations. This discussion invites listeners to reconsider traditional notions of gender, particularly in the context of astrology. The speakers delve into how astrological charts may reflect not only gender but also the complexities of sexuality, albeit acknowledging that such discussions remain underexplored in the mainstream narrative. The interplay between celestial bodies and individual identity is examined, emphasizing the necessity of embracing a more expansive understanding of human experience that acknowledges the spectrum of gender and sexuality. The conversation progresses to highlight historical perspectives on gender roles and their astrological implications. Speaker B articulates that, despite historical conventions that often delineated strict gender roles, there exists a persistent undercurrent of sexual identity that has always influenced individuality. The dialogue further examines contemporary cultural representations, such as those found in popular media, specifically referencing the Disney film 'Encanto.' The characters within this narrative serve as case studies for the manifestation of masculinity and femininity, particularly how they are portrayed in contrasting yet complementary ways. This analysis serves as a conduit for understanding how modern portrayals can reflect and challenge traditional astrological interpretations and societal norms. In conclusion, the episode encapsulates a journey through the evolving landscape of gender and sexuality, advocating for an inclusive viewpoint that celebrates diversity. The speakers underscore the importance of dialogue and education in fostering understanding and acceptance of all identities, particularly in a world where societal norms are increasingly fluid. They emphasize that by examining the astrological dimensions of identity, individuals may find pathways to self-acceptance and empowerment, thereby navigating the complexities of their existence with greater clarity and confidence.
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By the way, gender is just one aspect and planetary conditions.
Speaker B:We didn't even talk about the topic of sexuality, but everybody knows that it's there.
Speaker A:But, but, but, but what?
Speaker A:Traditionally, it had nothing to do with that.
Speaker B:You know, it didn't, but it, it didn't.
Speaker B:But, you know, even back then, like centuries ago, you could still see sexuality play a role in the birth chart.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:I'll put it this way.
Speaker A:I'm not saying you.
Speaker A:It doesn't play a role in sexuality.
Speaker A:I'm, I'm saying when delineating a birth chart and looking at gender, it, it has nothing to do with sexuality.
Speaker A:But it does because you can see it as a, as a tomboy who don't want to wear dresses and wants to hunt and fish and climb trees and do.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:And also, like my mutable planets, especially the mutable planets are in the male quadrants, in the masculine quadrants.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker A:Any, Any last words you want to add?
Speaker A:Tell the people or say about.
Speaker A:Here's your chance to get on your.
Speaker A:Say your agenda, rant and, and tell, Tell the people, you know, how you get in touch with you.
Speaker B:Everyone, thank you for coming to our TED Talk.
Speaker B:I hope that no one gets offended by the episode.
Speaker B:You know, we love everyone and everything is a spectrum nowadays.
Speaker B:It always has been, but it's more of what spectrum now?
Speaker A:Well, and if you did get offended, put.
Speaker A:Take your lace panties off, harden up a little bit.
Speaker B:And this is coming from a man that grew up in the 70s, you know, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, and I walk around with pink shiny shirts, you know, but we have
Speaker B:some, we, you know, everyone has some learning to do.
Speaker B:And, and I think, I think we're, we're doing just that.
Speaker A:I will just say this.
Speaker A:If somebody has a bunch of planets and, and they all masculine, like a female is, is, has a bunch of stuff and, and is very masculine lines.
Speaker A:It may.
Speaker A:I can see how it could be a little bit more accepting.
Speaker A:Help you accept some of the things that you think in society may say is odd and not normal.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker B:Well, I'll give you an example.
Speaker B:I don't know if you've watched this because, you know, probably you don't have a small kid around you, but the new Disney movie, Encanto.
Speaker B:Encanto, which is basically.
Speaker B:It translates to charmed or charming.
Speaker B:Disney just made this movie Encanto, and basically Encanto is basically about, you know, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like the Hispanic culture, Colombian culture.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:They have, It's a very Big family, and they have a magical home and this and that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Wait, let me stop you right there.
Speaker A:Is that kind of racist?
Speaker B:No, it's very.
Speaker A:They got a very big family.
Speaker A:Was that.
Speaker A:Is that, like, a racist kind of undertone?
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:They have a very big family.
Speaker B:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker B:And the grandma.
Speaker B:The grandma, they have a matriarch.
Speaker B:So in the way you should probably watch it, you'll see a lot of astrological concepts in it, because I. I found a few.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The grandmother is the matriarch of the family, and she's kind of like.
Speaker B:Everyone goes to her, and the house that they have is.
Speaker B:Has, like, magical powers.
Speaker B:But that's besides the point.
Speaker B:My point is that one of the sisters in the movie.
Speaker B:I forgot what her name is, but there's a song about it that became very popular.
Speaker B:She's very masculine.
Speaker B:She's actually super built.
Speaker B:And, like, she has.
Speaker B:She's very muscular, and she's very, like, you know, tough.
Speaker B:Like, she looks very tough.
Speaker B:And one of the songs that she, like, sings is about strength and about how she has to kind of, like, carry the world on her shoulder.
Speaker B:And a lot of people on Twitter and on social media were commenting on how they can't believe that Disney finally portrayed masculinity in a female.
Speaker B:Because she's very pretty.
Speaker B:She's.
Speaker B:She's a woman, but she's super.
Speaker B:Like, as soon as you see her, it's almost like you're looking at a bodybuilder in a way.
Speaker B:You know, like, she's very, like, muscular big.
Speaker B:You know, she, like, would carry, like, rocks everywhere.
Speaker B:You know, where usually the norm is for a man to take that role.
Speaker B:But now Disney kind of, like, portrayed it and, like, you know, gave it to, like, a female, which is, like, a very big, you know, ordeal.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that's basically my.
Speaker B:My example to everyone.
Speaker B:You can get anything from this episode.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's literally that you watch the Encanto movie from Disney and you'll see exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker A:Is it.
Speaker A:Is it in the movies or theater or HBO or something?
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It's probably, like, on Disney plus right now.
Speaker B:Let me see if.
Speaker B:Let me see if I can find her name.
Speaker B:She's.
Speaker B:She's the strong sister.
Speaker B:Luisa.
Speaker B:Luisa.
Speaker B:She's a strapping bodybuilder described as the rock of the family.
Speaker B:Luisa was gifted with super strength, but it's a pretty big deal that Disney actually did that, you know, so that would be, like, a great example of a woman or like, you know, a female with feminine planets that are in very masculine signs or masculine planets in masculine signs.