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Post-Production Supervision with Darlene Barrios
Episode 3322nd February 2024 • Film Center News • Derek Johnson II and Nicholas Killian
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Darlene Barrios, a production supervisor, as she discusses her journey in the entertainment industry. From managing office operations to working closely with clients like Disney and Paramount, Darlene shares insights into the behind-the-scenes world of post-production and digital asset management. Learn about her experiences interacting with celebrities like Val Kilmer and the intricacies of compressing various formats into digital files.

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This is Film Center.

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Your number one show for real entertainment industry news.

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No fluff, all facts.

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Now, here are your anchors, Derek Johnson II and Nicholas Killian.

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Welcome to Film Center, my name is Derek Johnson II.

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I'm Nicholas Killian.

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And today we're here with Darlene Barrios.

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Hello Darlene, how you doing today?

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I'm good, thank you.

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How are you?

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Doing pretty good.

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Darlene, we were just asking how you would like to be referred by and you

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said She's not a production coordinator.

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She is a production supervisor.

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Yes.

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What's the difference?

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So the difference is I manage the office as opposed to just looking at the

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production office aspect of the business.

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And who exa Can you say exactly who you work for?

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There are NDAs in this town.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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She works at a really nice company.

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She just came from Burbank.

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Thank you so much for coming in.

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Uh, I know it was It's raining today.

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It was a little bit of a rainy drive.

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Yeah.

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I appreciate it.

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But anyways, tell us about where you're from.

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You from LA?

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You from, uh, somewhere else in the country?

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I'm from LA, but I've moved around a lot.

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I'm currently stationed at the Antelope Valley.

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Your station there.

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Yeah, so like you so they change your station.

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No, I just meant to say I live there.

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Oh Seemed like you were in the military I was like, yo, I say that

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because it's temporary but he's always been like around California.

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Yes So what places have you lived so far in California?

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So LA Burbank Glendale, San Fernando Valley She hasn't left.

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She hasn't left glitz and glamour.

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No Valley girl, whole life.

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Tell us about what was the journey that led you to the entertainment industry.

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Have you always been interested in entertainment?

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Yes, I always have been.

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Do you think your environment, because you're from the area, you think your

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environment had something to do with it?

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Yeah, I think so.

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Also growing up, my dad was a musician, so I got to learn a

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little bit of that industry.

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Real?

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No, I'm kidding.

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What kind of music do you make?

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So he plays guitar, it's mostly in Spanish.

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He was in a band, so I got to see him play with his band.

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Not to say tour, but he did have some events that he played at, and

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that was fun growing up to see.

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It's funny you didn't become a musician yourself.

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I tried.

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I did take piano lessons growing up, but it just didn't stick with me.

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I feel like my instructor was too tough, and You took them guitar lessons instead.

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I tried that too, because my dad plays the guitar.

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I just, I couldn't do it.

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So you, where did you go, where did you go to like elementary school

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and stuff like that growing up?

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Did you go to one of those, because there aren't any,

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there's a lot of private schools.

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Did you go to a private school?

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No, I did not go to any private schools.

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Did you go to a performing arts school?

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I did not, no.

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So you just went to a Public school.

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Just a regular public school, huh?

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Yeah.

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And then you went there for elementary school, middle

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school And then high school.

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And then you went to college.

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Where was the decision to get into entertainment?

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I think it was mid, when I was doing my undergrad.

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I got my undergrad in business management.

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And then I had to take a course, more so like an elective.

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And I decided to do a jazz course.

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So it was a course that taught you everything about jazz.

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It's history and who the key players are.

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What draws you to jazz compared to other forms?

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Your father didn't play jazz.

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No, he didn't play jazz.

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No, so what makes you want to be in the jazz scene?

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I've always liked it.

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I know growing up my parents always called it elevator music.

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I never did.

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So I just wanted to learn more about it, just for my knowledge.

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Were you in a jazz band at all or no?

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No.

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No.

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I remember I played the saxophone.

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Oh.

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I played alto sax for three years, but then I was like, I don't know.

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I'm from Tennessee.

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Okay.

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We're both from the south.

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Yeah.

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I played the trumpet.

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Yeah.

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Ah.

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After high school, I was, I'm done with the trumpet.

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Yeah, the saxophone, as I said, I lived in Nashville.

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So if you're playing saxophone, you have to be good at music.

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You can't be like, oh, I want to get into it.

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This, the music, one of the music capitals of the entire world.

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They're like, no, either you're the best or don't even start.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then what was, we were talking about this beforehand.

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What led you so you took jazz and then you graduated from college, right?

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How did you dip your toe in the entertainment industry?

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I knew I wanted to work alongside the entertainment industry so when

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I graduated from college, I was extremely desperate to get out of my

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I was a cashier at a grocery store.

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And so I just applied anywhere that said that had the word entertainment.

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I was one of the lucky few is where I was interviewed where I'm currently at.

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And ever since I just been with that company since then.

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How long has that been?

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Seven years.

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Seven years now?

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Yeah.

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Did you, have you changed around positions since being there?

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I did.

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So I started very entry level doing, it's a storage company, so

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we have a lot of material come in.

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Started as data entry clerk, and then I've somehow moved into the account

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service team, and then I've dabbled into leadership roles, and then Where I, what

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I'm currently doing now, which is with post production and digitizing the assets.

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So do you ever go back to your old grocery store and be like, pshh,

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this place fell apart without me?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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In fact, my manager has been very open about that.

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So he does what he can.

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Yeah, he does what he can to keep me because I've been

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wanting to move away from there.

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With that being said, what else?

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Would you say is a hot topic right now in your industry?

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Hot topic?

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Yeah, because AI, everything that's going through a revolution right now,

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what's something in your specific area is a real big hot topic right now.

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They did just come out with that Sora AI, with the text to video.

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What do you think of that?

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Right now a lot of our projects are based on actors and singers

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who are doing documentary work.

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We've been dealing a lot with that, so it's a fun project where

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we get to open their vault and get to see what they did in the past.

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I can share one story, so we all know Val Kilmer.

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Actor for Top Gun and Willow.

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So he had that documentary named Val.

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I don't know if you guys had a chance to see it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Actually, I think it was Amazon Prime.

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It was oh, yeah, that's right There's so much streaming services now.

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It's like you had to buy like the bundle.

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Yeah, like all of them Yeah, just to see one thing just so you don't miss anything

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to meet val kilmer I did get to meet him.

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So he went into our office.

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It's all very tall.

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He's not that tall.

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I'm five four I would say he's five Six, five, seven?

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No way!

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Yeah, he's not a really tall man.

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He's five, six, five, seven?

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Yeah.

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So he's DJ's height.

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Yeah.

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Is that how tall you are?

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I'm five, seven, yeah.

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Okay, then yeah, I would say five, seven.

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That's crazy.

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So I'm taller than Val Kilmer.

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Probably, yeah.

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I think you're as tall as Mike Tyson.

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How tall are you?

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Five, ten.

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Yeah, that's Mike Tyson.

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How come you're not, how come you're not fighting?

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How come you're not fighting?

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How come I'm not fighting?

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Yeah, me and Val Kimmerer locked down.

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The 5'7 club, we're both working entertainment.

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The 5'4 club's in entertainment.

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You know what I'm saying?

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The 5'10 club, that's like for boxing.

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What you doing, man?

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I had a better childhood than Mike Tyson did.

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Yeah.

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When you deal with celebrities, do you find it's, cause we've.

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Dealing with celebrities is different for each context.

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For ours, it's more like, okay, I'm writing that I do for them.

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I don't really need to talk to the actors a lot.

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That's not part of my job.

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There's no reason I would need to talk to them.

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Or even when we're doing the show, it's okay, cool.

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They're coming on here to do the show, right?

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But when you're working closely with someone on a documentary,

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it's much more intimate than that.

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Sometimes I find it like, I know a lot about you, but you don't

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know exactly why you're here.

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No, because they come into the room not really having that stigma upon them.

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They're really open and friendly, in my experience.

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So it's just easy to talk to them like a regular person.

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I think people forget that these are not just celebrities, because

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you're used to seeing them on TV or social media or whatnot.

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And when they come there, they just look like the regular people.

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Your average guy, that's walking down the street.

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Does Val Kilmer, does he dress well?

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That's not necessarily my style, but.

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What is Val Kilmer's style?

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I heard he likes vans.

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It's, how would I describe it?

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When I met him, it was more so a little hippie, hobo vibe.

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Not hobo, that's so mean.

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That's a bad connotation.

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Sounds like a homeless sheep.

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No.

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He was in chill mode probably.

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Chill mode, yeah.

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Dressed down, you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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Although, to be fair, I think if he came in with a giant van.

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Val Kilmer shirt on, they're probably a little bit narcissists, so of course

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he wouldn't look at anything crazy or too flashy, especially because the

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celebrity standard for hiding in person is the baseball cap and shades, as

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if no one, as if no one could tell.

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Did you have intimate conversations with Val Kilmer or what was

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your interaction with him?

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Because you're working as a, you're working as post supervisor, right?

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So it's like, The stuff's already shot when it comes to you, right?

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Yeah, it's all like from the past I guess you could say my interactions

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have been positive I don't never we don't get too personal because we

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also want to keep it professional We are representing the company, right?

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Right, but we asked how it was working for that particular project and he's

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able like he was happy to share I think more so they're more happy to

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That they have someone talk to them as a person as opposed to a celebrity.

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Or as a product.

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Or as a product.

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People assume they just like, as soon as they get off stage or they're done

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acting, they go back into the cage.

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Or a product to be sold.

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So if you're a product, sorry, if you're a post supervisor, how do

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you, what exactly does that mean?

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Because it's not the For those of us, a lot of people who listen to the

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show are in the industry, but some people aren't listening to the show.

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How would you explain what a post supervisor does?

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Yeah, so my role really consists of overseeing the account service team.

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This is the team that is face to face with clients if they need to pull materials and

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clients as in post production companies.

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So we work closely with NBC, Disney, CBS, Paramount.

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So they are working with these management teams to pull material off the shelves.

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For whatever case they may need it.

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And on top of that, I work closely with operations, so we need to ship

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materials out to If it's local, it's easier, but if we need to ship things

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out international, international, then we need to work with them to ensure

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that everything is packaged correctly.

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But the most fun for me is working with the studios team where we get the assets

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and then we condense those materials into digital files and we upload it

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to whatever networks they needed to.

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Is that a complicated process?

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Can you talk about that process?

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Yeah.

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Again, I don't know.

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It's Details about it, software is not necessarily the biggest

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thing that I look into.

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She's not a software engineer.

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No, but we have a lot of, I guess you could say, profiles

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set up ready for us to use.

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Really what we need to do is make sure that the asset is in good condition.

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We'll add it to the machine.

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Load it onto the machine.

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And then we just play with the settings to compress those files.

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And it does it for us.

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And about how long does that usually take?

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Real time.

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So if The tape is an hour and ten minutes.

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It's going to take an hour and ten minutes to compress into a digital file.

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What's one of the biggest ones you guys have done anything like five, six?

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I guess you, documentary movies can last a long time, or really, especially

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if it's a series or something.

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Documentaries don't really have a time limit on them.

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No, mostly about, like, documentaries, what's cool about it

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is we get to compress, uh, files.

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From different formats, so we're working with digi betas.

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We're working with HD cams.

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Those are the most recent tapes, but we also have things that are on film

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and those are a little bit trickier to work with because we have to ensure

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that it's rolled up correctly or If it's, there's a lot of technicalities

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to it, but we just have to make sure that it's in good condition before.

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I assume you probably don't prefer film deliveries.

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No, they're heavier to work with.

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Just, there's a lot more components to it.

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Who do you mostly deal with as far as a post production supervisor?

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As in Day to day, do you work with the studios more?

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Do you work with independent people more?

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In that aspect, what would you say?

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Studios, for sure.

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Do you have a preferred studio that you like to work with?

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Yes.

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Do you want to tell us?

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Sure.

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It's actually Disney.

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You like working with Disney the best.

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Yeah.

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What about Disney do you like?

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Is it the Flex Studio?

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Is it that you get to walk around and flex?

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It's not a flex?

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It's not a flex.

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It is, it gets a flex.

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It's a plus side.

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But what makes them your favorite?

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Morso is really the team that they have over there, their management

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team, they're just really friendly.

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For me, it's about connecting with people really, and working with that

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particular person, the management for that department, has been great.

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And just, I've been working with that company for some time now, so we've

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built So that has built over time.

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Yeah.

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And do you have these types of connections with all of the studios?

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Or do you feel like it's just Disney that you have this connection with?

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Because, to be fair, I guess everyone has their favorite Usually people's

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favorite, quote unquote favorite studios to work with, really just comes

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down to how that Personnel at that company and you click where sometimes

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you click sometimes you don't because there are definitely times that we work

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with other studios Where's oh, okay.

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We're not best friends But working with them compared to some other

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people that especially every time we go to the LA comic con specifically

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Those are people we meet up with all the time and we have a really great

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time So is it like that second one was okay We can we click or is it more?

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Oh, which is that disney's the longest one you've been running with?

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I think it's a mix of both So Disney's top client for me, but

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I also do working with Paramount.

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The team, similar values that they have.

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Disney carries and with them it's been it gets difficult with

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paramount because they do have those 70 millimeter film reels Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes, so it gets trickier with some of the projects that we do for them

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But just in general working with them has been a breeze now when you talk

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about working with Disney and working with Paramount being your particular

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favorites is it You said team.

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Is it like one to one particular person that you like working with?

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Or is it just the team as a whole?

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It's the team.

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So it's one person, but they have their team.

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And so we work with the entire team.

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So your point of contact is the person you like the most and then you like

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working with that team in general.

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Is that what you're saying?

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Yes.

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Who do you not like working with the most?

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I don't think, I don't think you should say that.

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No, I'm not gonna.

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Okay, I had to ask.

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I figured maybe you might tell us.

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But is there, what are the personalities like between the studios?

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Could you say, oh, Disney acts like McDonald's?

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From a post perspective, because we're more on the other side of it.

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But from more of a post perspective, are there personalities distinct

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to each company that you work with?

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I don't think so.

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I will say, even though it's post production, everything is still

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fast paced because they need it to air wherever they need it to air.

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I think it's a balance of having to work with how they need to work around it,

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and then aside, building relationships.

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Hey, did you get to go to the HPA?

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The Hollywood Post Awards?

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No, I didn't get a chance to go.

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Oh.

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Have you ever been before, or did you just go this year?

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No, I haven't been before.

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Oh, okay.

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Something that you always hear when you're at HPA, to be fair, It's not the biggest

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out of all the award shows, there's what, an award show every day in this town.

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It's always somebody's award, soon they're gonna have Jupiter awards here

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or something, it's always something.

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Anyway, at the HPA they talk a lot about ways to keep things organized.

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And I specifically know more editors than I do coordinators

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and supervisors like yourself.

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They always have their organization list.

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As a supervisor, what do you do to keep organized?

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I make a list.

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Oh, it's still a list?

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Yeah.

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Is it like the straight up Google sheet?

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Uh, yes.

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Yeah, that's the best way to go about it.

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And that's the only way you're able to stay organized?

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That's how I like to stay organized.

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It works for me.

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I'm more of a pen and paper type of gal.

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Sometimes you lose that piece of paper.

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So then Google Sheets was the next best thing.

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When we talk about post production coordinator or post production supervisor.

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What is your day specifically consist of?

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Like when you go to the office, what's one of the first things you get down

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the door and be like, all right, you're being supervised right now.

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No, no, no, I would not do that.

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Most of my roles really consist.

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of ensuring that the teams have what they need.

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And if they don't, then I'm the liaison to get the materials that they do need.

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But I will say, I think I venture more into the digital aspect of it.

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I just specifically make myself be there a lot more.

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We talked a little bit.

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This is before the show started.

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We talked a little bit about, uh, software and you said that your company

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and possibly some other companies might be going down some software changes

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nowadays because AI does a lot and the technology is moving really fast.

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Have you had to do a lot of big software overhauls?

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Is that like a thing that regularly happens?

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No, it doesn't happen regularly.

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I think it's just the company is ready to make a switch into cloud storage per se.

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And so they just really want to keep up with the times to ensure

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that they don't fall behind.

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Cloud storage instead of their own servers.

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So instead of physical storage, it'll be like once we digitize

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the assets, like someone needs to store it somewhere, right?

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We can't stay on a hard drive for the longest time.

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So they're implementing like a cloud storage service.

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Are you guys too worried about any sort of hacking?

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Cloud storage just get hacked a lot.

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That's one of the biggest thing for a company, security.

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That's like the number one priority.

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So that's, I know they have like their own IT team that works through that.

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Aside from like technicality, technicalities of it, I have You

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wouldn't want to have another like Sony where you just get completely hacked.

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Yeah, definitely not.

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Sony is another of our clients.

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So I know security as it is important for them.

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It is for us because they are in our, I know it's important to

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them now because they got, they leaked their Superman, right?

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Movie.

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Yeah.

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Just the whole system just.

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completely went down.

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They had, I remember a while back, they had a team of hackers

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that basically took over Sony.

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You couldn't go on the PlayStation store.

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I don't know how they did it, but hackers like By hacking, probably.

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Yeah.

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But they hacked into the source file, and basically had Sony by the cojones.

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Yeah.

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So there's a lot of even for I work for that company, there's

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a lot of layers of security.

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So, you need to enter this passcode, and then they send you a code,

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and you enter that, and Yeah.

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I know security's big on both sides, for the people who work there, and

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the people our clients, per se.

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And then, as far as Being a supervisor ghost.

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Have you ever had to fire people?

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I knew you were going to ask me this question.

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I, yes, it's not necessarily myself because That's what HR is for.

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Yes.

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Because why be the bad guy when you don't have to be, right?

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Yes, but, so it is you.

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Here's the thing.

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We hire people to do certain things, right?

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And if we talk to them and we try to work with them, and if that doesn't

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work, then we're going to need to find someone that's willing to do the work.

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I feel like there's a lot of turnover in, I don't know.

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No, there's not.

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No, most people that are there, it's because they want to be there.

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And that's something that they pursued from time to time.

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You get those one.

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One offs.

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Have you ever recommended anybody to be fired?

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Isn't that the same thing?

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It's the same thing.

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With post production, so most of those people, they, production is, post is,

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you have to like doing it to be there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, cause it's one of the most tedious aspects of making any creative endeavor.

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Is there anything that you as a supervisor do to help your employees

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go for Long periods of time or possibly keep the grind going.

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Yeah.

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So I think it's just finding areas of opportunity where they could grow,

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just knowing what their background is, what they went to school for,

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and then how we can implement those skills into the company.

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So I have seen a lot of people move up in different positions.

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Cool.

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You know what?

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It's been so great talking to you.

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Thank you for coming on to the show.

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Thank you.

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Is there any way where people can follow you or would you have anything

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to shout out, anything coming out next?

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Anything to plug, say hi to Val Kilmer.

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Val Kilmer is great.

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But people could follow me on LinkedIn, Darlene Barrios.

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Darlene Barrios, awesome.

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Guys, this has been Film Center.

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I'm Derek Johnson II.

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I'm Nicholas Killian.

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And this, we're here with?

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Darlene Barrios.

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And we'll see you next time.

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See ya.

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This has been Film Center on Comic Con Radio.

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Check out our previous episodes at Comic ConRadio.

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You can follow the show at Film Center News on all major social media platforms.

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Tune in next Wednesday for a first look.

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Until next time, this has been Film Center.

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