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Just curious about what jobs are out there? Tips for passive job seekers
Episode 268th March 2022 • Careers & Coffee • Corridor Careers
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Just curious about a job change? Learn what you might be missing out on career-wise.

This week’s Careers & Coffee Pod talks about how not everyone is actively looking for a job, but many are open to new opportunities. Setting yourself up for the right opportunity if it comes along doesn’t have to be accidental.

Learn some steps to determine what roles you might consider, and how to evaluate what companies might be a good fit. Simple first steps can include updating or reviewing your LinkedIn profile or reaching out to friends who recently changed jobs.

When you're not actively looking for a job, you can still be 'job curious.' Thinking over a change in your career? Dan and Liz talk thru the different steps you can take to explore a job change.

Steps discussed:

1. Define what's wrong with your current job

2. Turn these into opportunities to become more satisfied.

3. Talk to friends who have changed careers recently.

4. Network to find any opportunities that might fit your skills.

5. Be open to consider opportunities that you discover.

More resources:

10 things to consider before accepting a job

Checklist for considering if a job is right for you

Transcripts

Dan Holterhaus:

Good. Morning, Liz. Welcome back everybody.

Dan Holterhaus:

Careers and coffee episode number 644.

Liz Kennedy:

Right. Morning.

Dan Holterhaus:

Good morning. This is not episode number 644.

Dan Holterhaus:

Probably. I have no idea where we're out probably in the 30s.

Dan Holterhaus:

But yeah. Hey, we're doing good. We're still rolling. So I think

Dan Holterhaus:

we're almost a year into this.

Liz Kennedy:

Yeah, that flew by.

Dan Holterhaus:

It was a quick year. Right. Cool. Well, let's

Dan Holterhaus:

dive right into our topic for today. So we wanted to talk

Dan Holterhaus:

today about what it means to be job curious. And this is

Dan Holterhaus:

actually something that came up. Because we're hosting a career

Dan Holterhaus:

fair. We are your career fair? What do you know, Corridor

Dan Holterhaus:

Careers where where to go? Yeah, April 28. Cedar Rapids Public

Dan Holterhaus:

Library, from three to 6pm. We already have, like 15, employers

Dan Holterhaus:

signed up. And we're going to be heading towards well over 30.

Dan Holterhaus:

Hopefully. So good news on that front.

Liz Kennedy:

Yeah, we hope this will be the most accessible

Liz Kennedy:

Career Fair yet. And when we say accessible, not just mean from

Liz Kennedy:

like, accessibility standpoint, but from like meeting

Liz Kennedy:

jobseekers, where they are standpoint. So that's what our

Liz Kennedy:

topic is about. Today, we're going to talk about are you job

Liz Kennedy:

curious? And is there a place for you at a career fair? Maybe?

Dan Holterhaus:

Yeah. And I think when you think about a job

Dan Holterhaus:

seeker, there's really a couple, there's probably two different

Dan Holterhaus:

kinds, right? You have somebody that's 100%, looking for a job

Dan Holterhaus:

right now they are checking the job boards every day, or at

Dan Holterhaus:

least every, you know, few days, to see what new is out there.

Dan Holterhaus:

But then you have somebody that's just maybe curious or

Dan Holterhaus:

more of like what we would call passive job seeker, right?

Dan Holterhaus:

Somebody who's open to exploring new opportunities, but not

Dan Holterhaus:

working every day. And so that's what we want to talk about

Dan Holterhaus:

today. So it was if I had to ask you, like, what are some things

Dan Holterhaus:

that a job curious job seeker should be looking for? Like,

Dan Holterhaus:

what would you think those are?

Liz Kennedy:

Well, I think it's just opening your mind to the

Liz Kennedy:

possibilities of new opportunities. So you may be

Liz Kennedy:

have been working in your position for some time, so it's

Liz Kennedy:

a good chance to kind of evaluate is this job still right

Liz Kennedy:

for me, is the career path still right? For me, how just take a

Liz Kennedy:

pulse on your level of comfort with your current role. And

Liz Kennedy:

then, you know, you could do simple things like just get on

Liz Kennedy:

LinkedIn and take a look at and see what some of your colleagues

Liz Kennedy:

or just friends and the are doing. And if there's any job

Liz Kennedy:

moves that they're going through, maybe talk to him a

Liz Kennedy:

little bit about their job move and how the experience was for

Liz Kennedy:

them. So you can kind of just help yourself, set your mind at

Liz Kennedy:

ease with the potential of looking and then if the right

Liz Kennedy:

opportunity does come your way, then you'd be kind of ready for

Liz Kennedy:

that to happen.

Dan Holterhaus:

Yeah, I really like that point to, you know,

Dan Holterhaus:

talk to friends, talk to other people that have just gone

Dan Holterhaus:

through this, maybe see what the experience is like, you know,

Dan Holterhaus:

especially right now that it really is a job seekers market.

Dan Holterhaus:

There's a lot of jobs open. Companies are I don't want to

Dan Holterhaus:

say scrambling, but somewhat like to find it to find quality

Dan Holterhaus:

employees. So yeah, that's, that's a really good point. I

Dan Holterhaus:

found an article on forbes.com that talks about this and talks.

Dan Holterhaus:

And the title is never ever take a job unless it passes this

Dan Holterhaus:

test. Some really good questions on it that I wanted to review.

Dan Holterhaus:

And we'll drop this in the show notes. So just some things to

Dan Holterhaus:

consider when you are thinking about looking or taking a new

Dan Holterhaus:

job. So here are some of the questions. Will I learn

Dan Holterhaus:

something new in this job that I don't know already? What are the

Dan Holterhaus:

working hours for this job? What are the opportunities for

Dan Holterhaus:

advancement in this new job? Who was my manager at the new job?

Dan Holterhaus:

What will the working day be like? So I thought this is a

Dan Holterhaus:

really good article. How did the company treat me during the

Dan Holterhaus:

recruiting process? Like all really like kind of different

Dan Holterhaus:

things to think about, rather than what's the job title? And

Dan Holterhaus:

how much am I making? Yeah, that's a lot.

Liz Kennedy:

That's a lot better in depth because you don't want

Liz Kennedy:

to go through the hassle of making a job move and then find

Liz Kennedy:

out a weekend that it's not right for you. That's that's so

Liz Kennedy:

much stress. So it's already stressful enough to go through a

Liz Kennedy:

job search process or a job change. It's, it can be pretty

Liz Kennedy:

disruptive. So that checklist mentality is really helpful,

Liz Kennedy:

especially if you were maybe evaluating multiple offers,

Liz Kennedy:

which would be awesome, right? Like if you had three great

Liz Kennedy:

offers to consider. And if you do have at least one offer, you

Liz Kennedy:

should definitely try to see if there's another similar role out

Liz Kennedy:

there where you could compare, just like you would comparison

Liz Kennedy:

shop, you know, a big purchase, this is a major change in your

Liz Kennedy:

life, potentially. So having some comparison shopping tools

Liz Kennedy:

out there, and that the checklist is a great idea. So

Liz Kennedy:

we'll throw that in the show notes. So you can add that tear

Liz Kennedy:

your list of two dues if you're interested in maybe exploring

Dan Holterhaus:

if your job curious. Yeah, I mean, I think

Dan Holterhaus:

it comes down to like, what are those must have? Right, like,

Dan Holterhaus:

what are those? I mean, you're not gonna have the whole

Dan Holterhaus:

enchilada, right? Yeah, if you know, working for a company that

Dan Holterhaus:

you really care about, that's making an impact is more

Dan Holterhaus:

important than say, money or like your working hours. I just

Dan Holterhaus:

feel like, there's certain things that you have to decide

Dan Holterhaus:

that are most important to you, and try to align those with the

Dan Holterhaus:

company that you go work for. Hmm.

Liz Kennedy:

Yeah, and sometimes it's, um, you know, evaluating

Liz Kennedy:

what kind of culture it is at the the job, but there's no one

Liz Kennedy:

culture that's right for everyone. There are some

Liz Kennedy:

business cultures that appeal to different kinds of people. So if

Liz Kennedy:

you're, like, very regimented, and you like rules, like you

Liz Kennedy:

like knowing what the rules are, and sticking to them and not,

Liz Kennedy:

not having a lot of nothing having to adapt every day to

Liz Kennedy:

changing situations, then you might want to look for a company

Liz Kennedy:

culture that's a little bit more structured. And you can kind of

Liz Kennedy:

look in certain industries where that structure may exist. So

Liz Kennedy:

military, military contract companies, any kind of it

Liz Kennedy:

situation might be a good fit, too, because there's generally a

Liz Kennedy:

lot of structure around those roles. But if you're open and

Liz Kennedy:

adaptable, and you like to be, you know, you'd like different

Liz Kennedy:

things each day a mix of different things, maybe a

Liz Kennedy:

culture that's closer to a retail environment, or something

Liz Kennedy:

that enact interacts with the public on a regular basis might

Liz Kennedy:

be better for you, for maybe like a nonprofit, those

Liz Kennedy:

typically have lots of things happening all the time. So

Dan Holterhaus:

yeah, and I think you bring up a really good

Dan Holterhaus:

point that, you know, there's maybe no, there's, I feel like

Dan Holterhaus:

there's company values, right, at every company that you can

Dan Holterhaus:

usually just find on their website, it'll list out the

Dan Holterhaus:

values. You know, most companies have like, five, and they

Dan Holterhaus:

usually kind of make like an acronym out of it. But then,

Dan Holterhaus:

yeah, within each company, there's obviously all these

Dan Holterhaus:

different jobs. Right? And so blending your personality traits

Dan Holterhaus:

to the job that you're going after. Super important.

Liz Kennedy:

Yeah. There's that train.

Dan Holterhaus:

There's a train. Yeah. Can

Liz Kennedy:

you hear it? brings up a good point. So you're in

Liz Kennedy:

the office, I'm working from home, working from home is a big

Liz Kennedy:

huge thing that's come up. And people have been it who have

Liz Kennedy:

been working in an office, maybe curious about work from home

Liz Kennedy:

situations, if they didn't get a chance to do that, during the

Liz Kennedy:

pandemic, they might be very interested in.

Dan Holterhaus:

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, for me, and I

Dan Holterhaus:

really appreciate our company's culture and the fact that we

Dan Holterhaus:

have this flexibility, right, like, you can work from the

Dan Holterhaus:

office, you can work from home. I do most both days. Right now.

Dan Holterhaus:

So that's, that's just kind of something that I've chosen to

Dan Holterhaus:

do. So. Um, all right. Anything else? Before we sign off?

Liz Kennedy:

Nope. So let's just say I'm just curious. And I want

Liz Kennedy:

to see what's out there. So I guess my first steps are going

Liz Kennedy:

to be kind of look internal, like, what am I looking for? Or

Liz Kennedy:

what am I dissatisfied with? So start with the easy, those are

Liz Kennedy:

easier to figure out right? Then what you want is what you don't

Liz Kennedy:

want. So when you determine what you don't like, with your

Liz Kennedy:

current role, maybe try to look for the opportunity there. So is

Liz Kennedy:

there something that would be more satisfying, so identify

Liz Kennedy:

that, and then you can start to circle around, maybe some

Liz Kennedy:

friends that have gone through transitions in the last two

Liz Kennedy:

years, and see how their experience was if they had any

Liz Kennedy:

pointers for you? And also networking? Do they know about

Liz Kennedy:

any opportunities that might fit your skill set? You tell them

Liz Kennedy:

you're not necessarily need to change right now, but you might

Liz Kennedy:

be interested sometime this year. It'd be interesting to see

Liz Kennedy:

what would happen there. If you put that put it out to the world

Liz Kennedy:

that you might be interested in a change. And then yeah, develop

Liz Kennedy:

some kind of checklist. So if you weren't We're going to

Liz Kennedy:

decide whether to apply or whether to, you know, say yes to

Liz Kennedy:

a company, what would the criteria be for you? And that

Liz Kennedy:

way you can cleanly evaluate those opportunities as they come

Liz Kennedy:

your way.

Dan Holterhaus:

Well, alright, let's

Liz Kennedy:

See you next time guys.