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How To Rediscover Your City with Founder of Camber App Mady Maio
Episode 1086th September 2022 • Am I Doing This Right? • Corinne Foxx and Natalie McMillan
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Corinne Foxx - @corinnefoxx

Natalie McMillan - @nataliemcm and @shopnataliemcmillan 

What we're drinking: 2020 Margerum M5 Estate White Rhône Blend 



MEET OUR GUEST: 

Mady Maio - @madymaio and @camberapp 

ABOUT OUR GUEST: 

Mady Maio is the co-founder of Camber, which is a new travel recommendation platform that allows you to share your favorite places with friends. She's also the co-host of the Okay Sis podcast with her sister Scout, where they invite a female guest on every week to join in on the sisterly banter. 

TOPIC: 

One of the best ways to get out of your routine while staying on a budget is to check out new spots in your city or surrounding area. We’re joined by Mady Maio to discuss what to do if you feel restless in your environment, ways to find hidden gems around town, and how trying new things affects your mental health. Mady also expands on the vision behind Camber and what her experience as a woman in the tech industry has been so far. Plus, she shares her thoughts on staycations, her go-to strategy for recharging, and her new favorite spot that she just discovered in LA! 


In this episode, we discuss:

  • Why Mady wanted to create a platform for trustworthy, crowdsourced recommendations 
  • Details about the app that sets it apart from other sites like Yelp or Google Reviews 
  • The story and team behind Camber 
  • Where Mady likes to start when she’s exploring a new place 
  • The magic of local discovery and falling in love with your city again 
  • Why it’s so important to get out of your city for a weekend and check out a nearby town or attraction 
  • What’s next for Camber 


END OF THE SHOW: 

Corinne and Natalie introduce Hottie of the Week: Channing Tatum


WINE RATING:

2020 Margerum M5 Estate White Rhône Blend  = 8 / Channing 


WRAP UP:

To wrap up the episode, Corinne and Natalie play Recent Obsessions. The Hail Vegan Chickpea Caesar Salad from Kreation Juice Bar has changed Corinne’s mind about salads and Natalie can’t get enough of the Granola Butter from Oat Haus. 


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Transcripts

Corinne Foxx:

Hey welcome back to another episode of am I doing this right? I'm Corrine Foxx.

Natalie McMillan:

And I'm Natalie McMillan.

Corinne Foxx:

And we are best friends confidants millennials and the host of am I doing this right? A life how to podcast from the perspective of non experts. And each week we cover

Natalie McMillan:

a new topic and we drink a new bottle of wine. Yes, we

Corinne Foxx:

did. And this week, we are talking how to rediscover your city with our guest, founder of the camber app, Maddie mayo, very excited. wine with her. And we're gonna be talking to Maddie about what to do if you feel restless in your city, how to find new hotspots around town, and how trying new things affect your mental health.

Natalie McMillan:

I very much noticed that for me, we gotta get out here. It's like, I gotta get out of town recently. I'm like, I have to go to New York. Yeah, I have to go to New York,

Corinne Foxx:

you got to go get recharged. I

Natalie McMillan:

know you have to get recharged. I need to recharge, which again is insane for us.

Corinne Foxx:

Because it's a there's a certain energy in the in the city that you got to like, fill up on and then like you can slowly detox off of it when you get back. Right?

Natalie McMillan:

But it seems like the two of us like as introverts who want to just like chill, it's like, you would think that going to like an extremely busy city where people are like, absolutely unhinged, would be not the move. It is absolutely the move.

Corinne Foxx:

I like to go to New York two to three times I would love to go to especially because

Natalie McMillan:

I think I'm also just very much craving the fall. The fall like winter.

Corinne Foxx:

So while the hit la takes, honestly, we don't get fall till about December. No, honestly, like I looked at the the weather like for the next month ahead and it was like into October I bubble and it was like 85 I said

Natalie McMillan:

Jesus grill. The thing that I have noticed. The thing that I have noticed for the past decade is that October is always like 100 degrees.

Corinne Foxx:

My entire childhood. I've had warm Halloween

Natalie McMillan:

in Northern California. We didn't have the super warm Halloweens when I was little but because of climate change by the time I hit middle school high school, you could be wearing a song and a tank top and we find what I remember when I was like not a thong at a denkt up. But I remember when I was like six or something and I was Tinkerbell and I was freezing my ass off.

Corinne Foxx:

I see how being down here in LA we just it was always warm. So it was always warm. Never rainy. But anyways, I am looking forward to having some type of fall energy because I am going to do my murder mystery party. I've already done certain things. You guys I'm famous for my murder mystery party. Yes. Have we talked about them?

Natalie McMillan:

I don't think we might have talked about it last year when we because we didn't want on Halloween. We did. We did. Oh no. We didn't do one on Halloween. We just had a regular party on Halloween.

Corinne Foxx:

We did. Oh yeah. We had a regular Halloween but two Halloweens ago. We did 80s Prom murder mystery. Yes, that's true. It was really fun. The last murder mystery we did was like Margaritaville. So it was Margaritaville. Everyone was like somebody on a resort island. Yeah, it was. It was really fun. So stay tuned to find out what the theme of the next murder mystery party is. Okay, now what are we drinking this episode? Oh, yeah. Okay, well, it's

Natalie McMillan:

a white and it is a twist top. Ooh, it is the marjoram M five white from Los Olivos. Okay. Isn't that the place that James is obsessed with?

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah, my manager goes there like every other weekend and I'm like, Are you gonna leave me?

Natalie McMillan:

Are you just gonna like up and quit? Yeah, so this is just like a blend. It's like a granade ash. Some other stuff. A V on Yay. So hey, that's what it is. Oh, I'm

Corinne Foxx:

very excited to take a little sip beef.

Natalie McMillan:

I haven't. I haven't tasted it yet, but I smell it. Oh, yeah. Okay, shall we Los Olivos is one of those places we should probably go explore. Yes, you know,

Corinne Foxx:

we should talk to Maddie about it. We should. Should we introduce her and bring her on?

Natalie McMillan:

Yes. Let me do a little. A quick little bio for the people that don't know her yet. She's the co founder of camber, which is a new travel recommendation platform that allows you to share your favorite places with friends. And she's also the co host of the Oasis podcast with her sister Scout, where they invite a female guest on every week to join in on the sisterly banter. And in her spare time, you can find her reviewing romance novels on tick tock playing room a cub room a coupe room a cup running cube rummy coop. Yeah, I don't know what that

Corinne Foxx:

is. Oh, what's like a game?

Natalie McMillan:

Maybe I should do that. And drinking natural wine. She's a wine girly.

Corinne Foxx:

Oh, I love that. For her Okay, so let's bring on Maddie Hello, Maddie,

Mady Maio:

Danny. Oh, hey, girl. I was listening to your latest episode of rest and relaxation. And I just I was like, in that mood I was like in that vibe.

Corinne Foxx:

Yes. Are you a workaholic?

Mady Maio:

Like we are so I am not I am probably not a workaholic.

Corinne Foxx:

Wow. Are you recovering at all or you've just never been you just have the

Natalie McMillan:

relaxing vibes.

Mady Maio:

I am I don't have tried to hustle culture, I need to have so many interests and hobbies and things. So like, I am fine to stop working and like read my romance novel, my natural wine. Do the whole thing like I am I? So do you guys know human design? I'm

Natalie McMillan:

a projector. Okay,

Mady Maio:

good. That's like a I need extra extra extra rest. I'm not saying that it doesn't come with like shame and judgment. This is like, you know, societal pressures of like, oh my god, are we actually resting? But when I found out that I was a projector, my whole view on rest. I was like, Oh, who am I not to rest? Like it's part of my DNA. Okay, how

Natalie McMillan:

do I know? I want somebody to come on to talk about human design just

Corinne Foxx:

starting to like, figure it out. I'm a manifesting generator. Yeah, are you? Yeah, I don't know what that means. It means we we have

Natalie McMillan:

a lot of things. A lot of projects going on. Oh, fabulous is like just very much us.

Mady Maio:

Yeah. So my sister is a generator. And she's like, kind of the workaholic vibe, where she could work for like, 12 hours straight. And like that energizes and fuels her. i It sucks. Because like, sometimes I feel like that's what society rewards as like a hard worker or a successful person. And then, so it's like, oh, I don't want to be a projector. Like I'm just believing. Like, what does that mean? And so, but then I looked up like successful projectors, and apparently Obama has a projector so Okay, Obama,

Natalie McMillan:

why he's over there in Hawaii with his with his book.

Mady Maio:

Then it's fine, then it's fine. Right?

Corinne Foxx:

It makes sense with what you do, which is all about like finding places to enjoy yourself and have a good time having new experience. And I'm very curious, what gave you the inspiration to create camber? Which is your app? And also what is what's the story behind the name?

Natalie McMillan:

One another name?

Mady Maio:

I know, it's so funny, because, okay, so a little backstory, me and my co founder, she was my first boss out of college, we worked with this tech startup in LA. And we just worked so well together and stayed in touch after we both moved on to other things. And I was always that friend that she would text her recommendation like she'd see I had gone to Austin on Instagram and be like, Hey, I'm I'm planning a trip to Austin, like, can you send me your racks, and then, you know, lit scenario, you can kind of assume what's going to happen here. Like, I would send a disjointed Google Doc and a screenshot of the Notes app or like an email thread of like all my bug Rex, or my favorite places. And it was just this super archaic process. And I didn't understand why no one was like streamlining that. And also, you know, yeah, you can have like a Google Maps list, but you're not going to follow your friends on Google Maps, right? So there's a social component to it. There's this like, beautiful exchange of wrecks that are happening behind closed doors, but I was like, I want everyone to have access to these really cool thoughts and be able to discover them on their own, but make sure that they're trustworthy. You know, Yelp and TripAdvisor. You know, they're very anonymous. Like, why do I care about the Karen's of the world shouting?

Corinne Foxx:

Right. And I was gonna say, a lot of the people that go on there are a certain type of

Natalie McMillan:

write a bad review. Yeah,

Mady Maio:

exactly. So I was like, I'm sorry, our generation does not here about that type of content. So I wanted to create a space where it's like, when you go to Canberra, you know that these are the most trustworthy recommendations because they're by people you know, and care about and actually, like, whose taste you trust. So that's kind of where it all began. The name, we were just looking up travel terms, and we stopped we at first we were trying to, like do a nautical theme. And there's camber means like the curvature of a sail, and we just loved the word and we tried to do so many other like, word association games or whatever the beginning, we just, like kept coming back to camber and what I've learned through this process, it's like if something is it, like in your gut and in your heart, like you just gotta, you gotta go with it

Corinne Foxx:

just resonated with you. It felt right and you just want with it. Yeah, yep, I didn't. I've never heard of a camber than, then again, I don't sail so that makes sense. Good point. Oh, there you go.

Natalie McMillan:

How is your experience been being a female in tech?

Mady Maio:

My favorite question. So So, as many people like I, I've always worked in tech, but more on the community side, not really engaging directly with developers or product, even though that's probably been one of my favorite parts of building this company is like doing the product design and like actually like seeing the evolution of screens into like clickable prototypes. But yeah, it's been, I have been really fortunate because I was actually super, super bullish on making sure I connected with other female founders in LA, I always say that connecting with female founders is like part of my self care routine, it is something that motivates me it is, I desperately need it to continue on. Like, I have four different group chats, I have constant communication with other founders at my stage in LA, and it's been the most supportive community here. So you know, I also have a pod, I love to hear that and love to hear that. Yeah, yeah, you would think I don't, I feel like some people have some horror stories that women have been, you know, not as supportive if they like have risen to the top. But I think when there's like this more parallel network of support from the female founders, or in my similar stage, everyone is rooting for each other, everyone is trying to lift each other up, I can ask for any type of like, Intro to anyone that they know. And it's, it's been really, really beautiful. So I feel very fortunate that I that I'm very plugged into that. And I also just, I know the power of female support, I have a podcast called Oh cases, I do it my sister, we've been doing it for four years, we only interview female guests. And, you know, we It runs the gamut of like entrepreneurs, to authors to influencers, to, you know, Bachelor alumni all over the place. But that's the reason we love to do it. Because I just, I feel so connected to being a woman in this space. And I think in my next in my next iteration, once we you know, self can go to Google and make tons of money. I'm like, I need to be an angel investor, like I need to be lifted and only investing in other women like something is just feeling really, really like cyclical about this. I'm just like, I want to get back I want this, I want to just raise women up. And so yeah, I'm about to do a raise my first round of funding which like, how

Mady Maio:

like, very nerve wracking and just a lot of a lot of like, inner work that needs to happen for obviously, there's like the practical work of like creating the deck and you know, the pitch and everything. But there's something I've been spending like months on the inner work of going into these types of meetings, because it is just completely not an industry and VC is like so foreign to me. And it's, it's so interesting, as a first time founder, you're just kind of thrown into this world, and you're supposed to know like all the lingo, you're supposed to, like know how to negotiate the deals, and just like, it's very interesting. So I'm trying to be as prepared as possible, but also like, mentally because there's gonna be a lot of rejection. And I have to be very confident of myself. So

Corinne Foxx:

and I feel like the VC world is probably more male dominated, though I believe there probably are like, female specific VCs that like, you know, are looking for female founders because

Natalie McMillan:

I don't know VC means

Corinne Foxx:

like venture capitalists.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, venture capitalists. Okay, there we go. When you said VC the first time, I was like, I don't know what that means. I'm gonna

Mady Maio:

go work. That's good. Like, literally as I am that girl, too. I'm like, hey, what? Stop being like, what did that mean? Like? Go back? Everyone is everyone also just like loses acronyms and like, tries to be cool. I'm like, no, no, no, what? Let's like, actually hear what you're talking about. Right? So yeah, no, I I've been like building up my little like, you know, investor wish list or like, you know, my target investor list. And I'm trying to put as many women on there as possible. And also because I just I want there to feel like a partnership. And I want people to really, really invest in me and and understand what I'm doing. And I'm hoping that it is also men I am going to try as well, that's

Corinne Foxx:

the door for men too. We open the door. Anybody

Mady Maio:

for the door? Basket?

Corinne Foxx:

So you said your favorite part of this process has been like, was surprisingly designing the app and like the actual like intricacies of the user experience. Can you explain to someone who's listening right now like, what is that user experience, like on camber?

Mady Maio:

Yeah. So something I think that was really surprising was when we first set out to create this app. We worked with, you know, a third party to do the UI UX, which is basically the screens and like the actual flows of all the screens, and then we also worked with them to do the development, so the coding and the back end and the front end of the actual app, and they asked, you know, like, Hey, can you send us like some insight of what you're looking for? And you know, I went on Pinterest and I was because nothing no apps and it's getting so much better. Now I have tons of examples now. But back then, apps just didn't feel didn't really resonate with my vibe. I don't know. I was like, why are apps like, pretty? Like, why are they just like super generic, I feel like everyone has copied the same formula from all that like, just like blank slate type of UI and type of interfaces. And it's a very like, feel, you know what I mean? And so I looked on Pinterest, I was like trendy mobile apps, like I literally didn't even know what to search. And nothing really came up. I mean, there was some people kind of just designing it, but not actually building apps, it was more just like a design thing. So I just wanted to make sure that camber felt really, really personal to like this generation, specifically Gen Z and Millennial and I wanted people to have a reason to come back and be excited to come back. I don't know how many apps, I can say that I am always coming back to make sure that I feel like it, this is going to be your travel identity on the internet, right. That's our hope. So I want you to feel compelled and excited to open it up and see the bright colors and see the awesome like blocks and all the like thick lines that we put in and something about it just feels warm and cozy to me. So that was definitely an amazing process was the branding of it all and then translating the branding into actual screens, because you obviously want it to feel intuitive, you can't make it like show design. Not it's like people don't even know how to use it. But it's got perfect balance, right of like making it inviting, making it friendly. But then also super intuitive. You don't want to confuse them for one second. So ultimately, the main features on the app today is that you can save all your favorite places by cities. So you can have little city lists of you know, Los Angeles or break it out by neighborhoods anyplace in the world. And you save all of your places to that city list. It's your whole profile, and then you can follow your friends. And then you see everything on a map view. The map view for me is my favorite part because it aggregates all your friends recommendations into one place. So let's say specifically la huge city, as we all know, and let's say I'm in like a different part of town, but I don't find myself in a lot. And I have an hour to kill, and I want to go to a cute coffee shop, I always open Canberra and just look right around me. And then I'll find a coffee shop and it'll say, three of my friends recommend this, and I've never even heard of it.

Corinne Foxx:

And I'm like, okay, um, oh, that's so nice. So cool,

Mady Maio:

right? So I'm gonna go there because like, it's, I'm gonna trust it. Whereas like, maybe you could go to Google Maps and like, try to look at their Google Photos or, you know, whatever. It's just this really easy. I know, I can trust it. And I just value exploration and discovery so much. Whenever I'm in a new city, I cannot just pop into a place like I need to understand who has recommended this like is a valuable is the food guide. And I need to know all the things. So this just helps to expedite that process.

Corinne Foxx:

And like streamline it Yeah, Natalie and I are going to Austin, Texas. And I texted my friend in Austin, and she did exactly what you don't want to happen. We just sent me a note app with about, like, 80 different places. And like the way it's organized, I can't even I'm like scrolling. I'm like, I forgot the top play, you know, like, so Well, we're the we're the same like, yeah, we want to discover our city, but it's like, it's tough, which is like, so great that you've met that need.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah. And it streamlines it's like when I think about even in LA like looking at like, Okay, I go on Google Maps, then it's like, then that takes me to Yelp and then I'm looking through all these different things, when it would be so nice to just be like, Oh, Corrine like that way. So I'm gonna go try it, you know,

Mady Maio:

yeah, it just distills it down. And I think I'm the Tick Tock is really where we've grown the most and like people have started to see us as a trustworthy resource in Los Angeles, specifically, we recommend a lot of places, I'll highlight, you know, hidden gems and things and do like little lists and guides there. And what I've found is just, people are commenting on the TIC tock being like, Mads help, like, I'm, you know, I need to have dinner spot in West Hollywood for 20 people, but I don't want it to be too expensive, but I want it to be chic, like, very, very specific, like, use cases. And I love that, like, I really, I really think there's definitely a need for I have a specific ask and like how I'm going to ask someone that I trust to give me that that direct recommendation. And so I'm trying to figure out how do we translate that onto the app like I love the idea of kind of like a like a post or like a question asking the community can kind of crowdsource like the best places, specific need right? I have friends texting me all the time, like going on a date. It's a third date. So it's like, you know, it still has to be fancy, but not too fancy. Yeah, so many different layers to recommendations. It's not just about I'm going on this trip, let me plan it, right. It's not just about travel. It's about local discovery. It's about exploring your own city for the various use cases that that you are going to explore it, you know, well, that's what

Natalie McMillan:

I was gonna say, like, what would you recommend to somebody who's in their city right now? And they're just like, I am restless. I need to do something. Where would you begin, obviously on camera, but when you when you think of yourself exploring your own city, where do you kind of start?

Mady Maio:

Okay, exploring my own city. I first of all, I love Tik Tok, I think it's an incredible resource for discovery, I have my little girlies that I go to, and they show me a lot of cool places. So I'm usually doing that. But you know, when I go to a new city, there's two things that I look for. And these are, these are very specific. So I'm surprised no one has really, like said something like this, because I think people might look at travel blogs, or, you know, maybe Conde Nast Traveler or something like that. But for me, I find a boutique hotel in a city. And I go to their website, and usually on their website, they will have their recommendations for the city or for the space right around that boutique hotel. So already, I know, the boutique hotel, I trust it because it's like, you know, a vibe. And I trust what they say because I understand the type of places that they would recommend. And I want an extension of that brand. So I always do that when it's like Austin and I can already I mean, first of all, send you my camera list. I have so many good places in Austin to send you there. Yeah, and like Austin, there's so many cute boutique hotels, and they probably do have little guides on their website. Another place I love and this is like a newer thing. And I feel like it's like getting a little saturated. But I I still vouch for it, is I look for natural wine bars in the city that I'm going to. So the reason why is because natural wine is it lends itself to a very specific type of audience, people that you know, like more trendier spots, or it's going to be in a more a neighborhood that has like maybe some cool shops around it. Like that's usually where I find that's where wine bars like most of the natural wine shops and bars and La are in Silver Lake Echo Park Los Feliz, right. And those are really awesome areas. Like those are the types of areas that I probably want to go to when I'm exploring another city, right, the more underground like not not touristy, that's what I do. And it's it's been interesting, because, you know, I had just had a friend that went to Barcelona, and she went to like tons of natural wine, whereas it's popping up over there. And like, my boyfriend was just in Copenhagen and he was at a natural wine bar. And he was like, you would have loved it. It was in like the most hipster area like it's like, they just know where to park themselves. So those are two like very, off the beaten path, like strange wrecks for discovering, you know, new parts of your city or new places to go. There was

Natalie McMillan:

genius. It's literally brilliant the whole time. I'm like, oh my god, this is real. Yeah,

Corinne Foxx:

it is. But also like, if that's because you really know yourself and what you like, and you're like, Okay, that's kind of the area I'm looking for. And even if someone's listening in, like, they're not into natural wine or hipster stuff, but they know they really love this thing, or this type of restaurant. And so it's like, you can personalize that to whatever is you you can find it in another city in a different neighborhood. And just kind of like being aware of that. You said something that I found really interesting. You said that exploration, some version of like is part of your identity, like who you are. And I'm curious, how do you think like trying new things or trying new places, positively affects like your mental health or someone's mental health? Because I feel like you get stuck in a rut and that can kind of deteriorate. You're like, Yeah, boy. Yeah.

Mady Maio:

Yeah. I mean, I know I should, I should do some research on like, what it actually does to your brain because something chemically definitely happens when you are viewing and experiencing a brand new place. You know, while I was building camber, I as most founders do, most business owners like you kind of get in the weeds and I kind of got lost of like why we were building this and I took a step back I like I was okay, let's let's go back to like literally the basics. Why do I like discovering places like why am I encouraging people to do this? And I thought about this one time, I discovered this boutique hotel in Cambria, California, like a very random area.

Natalie McMillan:

I love the name brand.

Mady Maio:

Really? White. Have you ever been to Whitewater?

Corinne Foxx:

Is that the waffle place? No.

Natalie McMillan:

Okay, no, we were did I stick? I took it for Christmas, like years ago. I took my mom there, like as a gift. I want to say that might have been. I'll have to I'll have to see if she remembers. It's the cutest place in the world.

Mady Maio:

Yeah, I've been with the boardwalk and the beach. Like incredible. So there's this there's this hotel called whitewater hotel, Cambria, and I went to if I'd seen it you know, on Instagram and all the planning was like, Oh, I know I'm gonna love this and but the feeling of like actually being there and taking in the beautiful space, the architecture, the interior designers name is Nina Freud Berger. And she is just like, you need to design my house one day like she is credible. And there was just something so special about making a memory there with you know, my partner and exploring that that new town you know, there's not, there's a magic you feel with it. Right. And I want I want everyone on camber to discover a place like that, right? Discovered that type of magic that comes with this, this. This like newness that happens. And even it just happened even today, I discovered a new coffee shop on Tik Tok called Jurassic mind. And it is in like mid Wilshire area. And I was driving back from Venice. Let me go, let me go check it out. I mean, just like my heart, like flutters into something comes over me I walk in, I'm like, you guys are new, right? Like, this place is incredible. And she's like, we're four weeks old. And you know, I love talking to the owners. And it feels like so local, and people are so excited to bring each other in it feels very neighborhood Lee and, oh, it's just something so special about about those stories and about about the place itself and how it makes you feel, you know,

Corinne Foxx:

and you have a chance to like fall in love with your city again, right? Like, you think you found all the places you have your normal go twos, and you get in that rut, and then like, being like something comes out of nowhere, and you're like, wow, like, Yeah, I'm surprised. I mean, I lived in LA my whole life. And I get surprised every now and again. And I'm like, wow, okay, there's something new here. For me.

Natalie McMillan:

There's always something new. I think, even if you live in a small town, yeah,

Mady Maio:

yeah, for sure. I want to uncover those those moments in those places. Like, we always say that camber can help you find that place in your backyard, that you just had no awareness that existed and it's it's such a beautiful feeling.

Natalie McMillan:

What do you think was the most surprising discovery that you've made recently, in your own backyard here in LA?

Mady Maio:

Oh, I mean, you know, since I go to a lot of places, like, it's so funny, because so, you know, I, whenever I go out for dinner, and you know, meet up with people for coffee, I always make sure to go to a new place, because I'm like, it's content like I need, you know, it's part of my job now, which is so exciting. But I this is not like so surprising, because it's definitely an area that a lot of people live in. But I recently just explored more Frogtown, which is a city kind of your Atwater Village. Yeah, a little bit. You know where it is. It does not feel like LA, I don't know how to describe it. I went to this one cafe called scope, bicycle cafe. And it's just super neighborhood ly, like, just so cool. Looking like an amazing patio, super colorful, you would not expect it. And then it's along the LA River. So it just feels like so local. And I walked over there. And then there's this amazing la cologne. It's like, again, right on the river and insane location. And then there's this vegan bakery that's around the corner called Just what I needed. And the most amazing sandwiches from wax paper. It's like this little hole in the wall. And I was wandering around and it was so quiet. And it just did not feel like any other part of La it felt so so unique. And I was mystified like I was, I was like, I need to live in this part of like, I didn't let you move. Like what do I do? I was so struck by it. kwena Frogtown? Yeah, we're going to Frogtown guys. I mean, there's also like Sonora town, is there just something about this area. And so that was a that was a big surprise to me, because I feel like I've gone to most of the pockets in LA and explored and found the cool spots. But that was one that I just hadn't done. And I and I went the other weekend and it was like delightful.

Corinne Foxx:

My acting class is over and Atwater and so it would just live in, like the opposite end of town. And so it takes me like an hour to get over there. But now we'll get there early. And maybe I'll go check out Frogtown

Mady Maio:

also, if you're in Atwater, you have to go to wine and eggs. Have you been there? No. It's a natural natural wine bar it natural wine shop, but it's also a little Bodega style has like little produce and little like cheeses. It is it's like a little mark It's a very, very,

Natalie McMillan:

sounds very Napa.

Corinne Foxx:

One thing I really love to do, I think we both like to do when we feel maybe a little restless in our cities is do like a staycation. And I'm curious on your thoughts on staycations verse vacations and when you need a staycation and when you need a vacation, and what's the difference? Like, what's the criteria for each?

Mady Maio:

Okay, so something I feel like we're very fortunate in LA because I consider staycations like, even those little weekend trips to neighboring cities, right, so we have Santa Barbara Yeah, yeah. So we have Santa Barbara, we have Ojai, Palm Springs, Laguna Beach, you can go to Santa Ynez, if you go too slow, like it. I mean, San Diego, that's where I'm from. And there's so much to like recharge and get out of the city for just like a second. So for me, I tend to do those quite a bit, you know, explore the different like neighboring areas. And then again, Los Angeles is so big. So honestly, if I went to the Santa Monica proper, or Surfrider Malibu, that's a vacation like that is like a completely different city. Like I'm out of my you know, routine. So something for me, I try to do those like little mini trips. I'm more of a weekend getaway gal. I did do a big trip this summer. I went to Greece for the first time, which I'm playing. Yeah, I did my mind in the center, like I really leaned in, and it was fantastic. Well, yeah, I'm more of a California weekend getaway person, which kind of fits a lot with what I what I'm building with camber, again, with the like, more localized discovery.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah. I also feel like LA is so special, because every two miles feels like a completely different city. It's a completely different city every two miles completely, which

Mady Maio:

is great. I don't know, I this city is so vast and so diverse. And just every vibe you want, you can find like, whatever mood you're in whatever experience you want is accessible to you. And it's phenomenal.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah. Well, we don't want to take up too much more of your time. But I do want to ask what is next for you and camber? And where can our listeners find you?

Mady Maio:

Well, what is next for us? We will be launching into the app store very very soon. So keep an eye out. But yeah, that's that's my whole world right now is growing the community and then getting us ready for launch and making sure the product is in perfect condition for everyone to discover their next favorite place where you can find that you can follow us on Tik Tok

Corinne Foxx:

I follow you that as

Mady Maio:

the dog is probably where you'll find my face most but it's at Canberra, CA MB er ATP on Instagram, the same handle and then if you want just like all other information, links to download the actual beta app, which it's public, so anyone can download it now and become a beta tester, Canberra app.com We'll link that in

Natalie McMillan:

our show which is also such a fun website. Can I just say I was loving that website? I was like oh my god, this is so much fun.

Corinne Foxx:

And he and you have your podcast

Natalie McMillan:

Yes. And you've got okay says

Mady Maio:

yes. So you can listen okay, says bye guys. Okay, a Wi Fi is anywhere podcasts are found me and my sister every Monday chat and have like sisterly banter with a female guest and it's it's a good time. A lot of empowerment but also a lot of silliness. Like your you'll probably pee your pants a little bit. So there's that. Yeah.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, and our listeners know, Scout we've had scout on we have Scout Scout sister.

Mady Maio:

Yeah. I can't remember that. We didn't mention

Natalie McMillan:

that. Maddie is Scout sister.

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah, I forgot that part. Yeah.

Mady Maio:

You know what, it's fine. Because we are so different that it's like actually appalling that we're related. Like it's like, night and day, which makes the podcast really exciting. Because like, it just brings out so many different sides. And

Corinne Foxx:

oh, I bet I bet. Well, thank you, Maddie, and congrats on everything. You're so excited for the app where he will continue to follow you on Tik Tok and everything. And we're gonna have you back.

Mady Maio:

Oh, yeah, in the studio. I'm gonna I'm gonna show up and we'll do this IRL.

Natalie McMillan:

You know, we're gonna bring a natural wine. Yes.

Mady Maio:

Because we're drinking wine. Last episode. I was like, what do I get to drink wine? It should have been it's

Corinne Foxx:

become more of a chore now though. It was a good idea in the beginning and then every week.

Mady Maio:

Now it's like 11. And

Natalie McMillan:

literally, we're like,

Corinne Foxx:

oh, here we go. Actually, okay. Thanks, guys. Yes, have a great rest of your day.

Mady Maio:

Thank you. Bye, ladies.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, Natalie, we have an assignment we have to go find a natural wine place,

Natalie McMillan:

we have to find an actual wine place. I love her idea of looking at the boutique hotel and then going to the rec like that is

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah, it is really June. Yes, it is.

Natalie McMillan:

Also we have to check out Frogtown I would love to go check that out. Yeah.

Corinne Foxx:

Well, we hope you guys learn more about rediscovering your city how to explore a new one. And why it's so important to try new things. Yeah, I think also what I wanted to say during the interview was that I do think when you lease for Los Angeles, which is a huge spread out city, you find a sense of community when you find like cute little places that feel more local and you just feel like you're a part of the community more Yeah, I just found a new coffee shop that I love. That's not our for its I love outfits, but it's like big chain, and I love the guy there and it just like I feel more connected.

Natalie McMillan:

It's just the Sasquatch place. Oh, I

Corinne Foxx:

love coffee for Sasquatch. Oh, no, but this place is called a Lorna's Oh, we've heard of it. It's almost Hollywood.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, wow. See if you're on camera you can I recommend this place.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, that let's circle back on the one we are drinking today, which is

Natalie McMillan:

is the marjoram M five blue wine and

Corinne Foxx:

we introduce our party.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh my gosh, our hobby this week is none other than Mr. Channing Tatum.

Corinne Foxx:

I mean, do we need to say more? But we did pick them for a reason. Yes.

Natalie McMillan:

He actually owns a restaurant in New Orleans called saints and sinners. I wonder why New Orleans? I knew like I wonder if he explored New Orleans and chose that. Yeah, he doesn't. Wait isn't he from New Orleans

Corinne Foxx:

is from New Kedah have a little he has a little

Natalie McMillan:

twining as he from Louisiana. We have to find out we've got to know also Channing Tatum is so funny. He did you see bullet train? No. Oh my God. He was so funny. In bullet train.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, guys. My Wikipedia is loading. Oh, come on.

Natalie McMillan:

Don't tell me he's from like Chico, California. Alabama. He's from Alabama. Okay, it's

Corinne Foxx:

from Alabama. I'm so southern. That little.

Natalie McMillan:

There's a little twang there.

Corinne Foxx:

You'll swag him. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, that checks out checks. Okay, so one two, Channing Tatum. What are we feeling? It's good. Seven,

Natalie McMillan:

eight. It's gonna give it an eight, eight. Okay, I got nothing like, no complaints. No, I don't really have any complaints. No. Okay. Eight but an eight,

Corinne Foxx:

eight out of Channing Tatum. We will link it in the show notes if you guys want to pick up a bottle

Corinne Foxx:

All right, this is the part of the episode where we play a little wrap up game and this week we're playing recent obsession fish. We're gonna be giving you our little Rex on par with the theme of this episode. We're obsessed with

Natalie McMillan:

although recently you said you don't get obsessed with things. But I do think you do.

Corinne Foxx:

Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna. I don't. But I have been recently obsessed. Let's just tell you guys because honestly, you guys really can't benefit from this. My recent obsession, and I'm someone who does not obsessively eat things like I can eat something and love it and never eat it again. This is not the case for the situation. I have been eating about three to four times a week. This vegan Caesar salad from creation which is a juice bar. It's called the Hale vegan Caesar salad. Yes. And I'm going to tell you right now, you guys, I need to be stopped. I need to have somebody I need someone to decline my credit card when I get in there. Because I'm going more frequently and I'm getting scared.

Natalie McMillan:

I'm getting scared like that. You're just never gonna be able to quit the habit or I just I guess I'm

Corinne Foxx:

not what I'm scared of. But it's that I have no control over it.

Natalie McMillan:

Well, here's the thing. I guess it is controllable if they run out because every time I've gone in there, which has been to hold times they don't have it because I probably because you bought it

Corinne Foxx:

and I'm gonna tell you right now the parkings not easy at the one I go

Natalie McMillan:

to the one on La Cienega. Yes,

Corinne Foxx:

I go to that one impossible to park it's impossible but I will circle the block for 15 minutes to get that salad that's what I'm saying where I'm like this I have to try it unhealthy.

Natalie McMillan:

I have to try it you have to

Corinne Foxx:

you get obsessed with it too.

Natalie McMillan:

Okay maybe at our next movie night we'll get pizza from our favorite pizza place and then we'll get he'll Caesars I'm in say last say let me get the salad salad anything to have the salad again and I don't even like salad you guys know what am I Unpopular Opinions was that I don't like salad. She's historically never liked salad. Anyways, I'm sure you guys are thrilled by my recent obsession. Natalie, what's yours? Okay, well, mine is along the same lines because it's a food item. Oh, I know what yours is. And I also use it a lot too annoyed because it is so so expensive, and I cannot stop eating it. I put it in my recent newsletter because I love it that much.

Corinne Foxx:

I really want to try it. I had, I had a banana with like almond butter and I was thinking, I really want to try now

Natalie McMillan:

she's got Okay, well my obsession is it's called granola butter. Okay, it's from this company called oat house, but it's H au s like, oh tall sauce. Oh my god, I could literally just sit there and eat the entire jar of it. I have gotta try it. It also comes in so many different flavors cookie dough flavor, which does and doesn't have like chocolate chips, and it just tastes like cookie dough somehow, but not in a sickening gross way. You're gonna say that doesn't sound delicious way. Okay, then they've got the original. They've also got a chocolate. I'm not a chocolate girl. But they do have a chocolate. They have all these different flavors. The original is kind of like a almost like a snickerdoodle like it's kind of a cinnamon ish vibe.

Corinne Foxx:

Oh my god, where do you where to? Where can this be found? You

Natalie McMillan:

can find a Whole Foods Okay, which I literally go to just for that. Now. You can also get on Amazon. And then I saw on their Instagram that you can get at Sprouts. Do

Corinne Foxx:

you follow them on Instagram?

Natalie McMillan:

I did. I did follow them. And then I unfollow you know what? I'm not even kidding you. I followed them. And I think it might have been yesterday. I was like I have to unfollow them because they announced a new flavor. And I was like, oh my god, I have to have it. It's like $13 a jar. And I'm going through like three jars a week. Really? I can't soak anytime I'm kind of hungry. Spoon straight into the jar.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, that good? I have got to try it. Maybe I'll get on Amazon.

Natalie McMillan:

You should get on Amazon. Give it a give her a try the vanilla flavors on some really?

Corinne Foxx:

Really? Yes. I'm so excited. Okay, so I'm gonna try

Natalie McMillan:

it. You're gonna try the the granola butter. I'm gonna try the Hail Caesar. And then the world would be a better planner. Thrilled to be able to please. Well, thank

Corinne Foxx:

you guys for listening to this episode. If you liked it, read it, review it. We read them and we read them on the podcast. You might get famous. I don't know what to say. Say and we love you guys and we'll be back next week with another episode. Bye

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