Are you struggling to find your authentic voice on live video?
Do you feel like perfectionism is holding you back from connecting with your audience?
Wondering how to build confidence and overcome technical mishaps in your live streams?
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In this episode, we're diving deep into the world of live video confidence with the fantastic Gillian Whitney. We'll explore how to embrace imperfection, build authentic connections, and overcome those pesky perfectionist tendencies that can hold us back.
Gillian Whitney, a live stream strategist and coach, joins me to share her personal journey from perfectionist to confident live streamer. As an introvert who's mastered the art of engaging on camera, Gillian offers a wealth of practical tips and heartfelt advice for anyone looking to level up their live video game.
ποΈ In this episode:
00:00 Intro
01:28 Guest Introduction: Gillian Whitney
03:41 Early Struggles and Building Confidence
09:26 Tips for Authenticity and Energy Management
12:51 Disaster Stories and Learning Moments
15:31 Personality Types and Confidence Strategies
17:25 Final Tips and Words of Encouragement
20:32 Gillian's Books and Upcoming Projects
We kick things off by discussing Gillian's journey with LinkedIn Live and how she transformed her early struggles into valuable learning experiences. You'll discover practical strategies for managing your energy levels during live streams and learn why embracing your authentic self is crucial for connecting with your audience.
But it's not all smooth sailing in the world of live video! Gillian shares some hilarious disaster stories that will not only make you chuckle but also show you how to bounce back from technical mishaps with grace and humour. We also delve into how different personality types can approach confidence-building in their own unique ways.
As we wrap up, Gillian offers her top tips for aspiring live streamers and shares some exciting details about her books and upcoming projects. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just dipping your toes into the live video waters, this episode is packed with insights to help you shine on camera.
πΊMore about Gillian Whitney
Gillian Whitney is a Live Stream Strategist and Coach, who makes video easy peasy. She hosts a weekly LinkedIn Live show and is the author of two books. As a digital nomad, Gillian is a citizenship of four countries. Contrary to any rumors, she is not a spy.
Connect with Gillian:
Website: https://videoeasypeasy.com/
X/Twitter: https://x.com/GillianWhitney
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VideoEasyPeasy
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillianwhitney/
What's your biggest challenge when it comes to being authentic on live video? Share your thoughts in the comments section below, and don't forget to subscribe and leave a review! π₯β¨
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π€ About the Confident Live Marketing Podcast
The Confident Live Marketing Podcast is aimed at established entrepreneurs who want to level up their impact, authority, and profits through the power of live video, webinars, and podcasts. We focus on knocking down the 3 main barriers these entrepreneurs face when creating live content - live video camera fear, live video tech & gear, and the content marketing sphere.
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πΊMore about Ian Anderson Gray
Ian is the founder of the Confident Live Marketing Academy and is the host of the Confident Live Marketing Podcast. He helps entrepreneurs to level up their impact, authority, and profits by using live video confidently. He's the founder of Seriously Social - a blog focused on live video and social media tools. He's an international speaker, trainer, teacher, and consultant. He has a passion for making the techno-babble of live video and social media marketing easy to understand. As well as being a geek, husband, and dad to two kids, Ian is also a professional singer and lives near Manchester in the UK.
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π€ Connect with Ian
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Kick your perfectionistic tendencies to the curb there is no need
Gillian:to be perfect in fact what it is it's progress it's about your progress you
Gillian:have to be willing to suck the first couple of times that you do video
Gillian:because you're going to do things wrong
Gillian:I love lives because it's disasters it's not if it's when
Gillian:it's always when will it happen?
Gillian:So you always have to be prepared
Gillian:Never try to be somebody who you're not be yourself and just be your best self
Gillian:Welcome to the Confident Live Marketing Podcast with Ian Anderson Gray.
Gillian:Helping you level up your impact, authority, and profits through
Gillian:the power of confident live video.
Gillian:Optimize your mindset and communication.
Gillian:And increase your confidence in front of the camera.
Gillian:Get confident with the tech and gear.
Gillian:And get confident with the content and marketing.
Gillian:Together, we can go live!
Ian:Hello, and welcome to the Confident Live marketing podcast.
Ian:I'm Ian Anderson Gray.
Ian:And in this season, we're talking about confidence and communication.
Ian:And my guests are going to be sharing their confidence and communication journey
Ian:so that you can get in front of the camera and share your story with the world.
Ian:Without getting really scared and worried that you're going to make a complete
Ian:fool of yourself because let's face it, we've probably all done that over
Ian:the years, I think I certainly have.
Ian:I'm very excited to bring back Gillian Whitney and it's great
Ian:to have you on the show, Gillian.
Ian:How are you doing?
Gillian:I'm excited to be here.
Gillian:Thank you so much for having me.
Gillian:It's an honor.
Ian:It's great.
Ian:You have been on the show before you are a live stream strategist and coach, and
Ian:you make video easy peasy, easy peasy is your, is your kind of name, isn't it?
Ian:And you've, you have a weekly LinkedIn live show.
Ian:So tell us a little bit more about your LinkedIn live show.
Gillian:So I go live on LinkedIn every week at Tuesday at 10 a.
Gillian:m.
Gillian:Pacific time.
Gillian:Actually started my LinkedIn live show in Israel where I was going
Gillian:live at eight o'clock at night.
Gillian:So it's always good to think of all the different time zones when
Gillian:you're going to start going live.
Gillian:And it's the LinkedIn easy peasy.
Gillian:LinkedIn easy peasy.
Gillian:So basically the theme of the show is I have guests come on
Gillian:and we talk about how to make LinkedIn an easy peasy place to be.
Ian:Love it.
Ian:And you are in your bio.
Ian:It says you are a citizen of four countries.
Ian:And I love it.
Ian:You say countries for any reason.
Ian:You're not a spy.
Ian:We'll have to take that.
Ian:Take your word for it, of course, on that one.
Ian:But tell us a little bit.
Ian:Tell us about those countries and an introduction to how you
Ian:got to where you are today.
Gillian:So I am a digital global nomad.
Gillian:I live, I was born in Canada.
Gillian:I'm British born abroad because of my parents.
Gillian:I am an American naturalized American citizen, and I'm an Israeli.
Gillian:And five years ago, I actually picked up with my husband and we
Gillian:moved to Israel, sight unseen, six suitcases and two little dachshunds.
Gillian:And we moved to Israel at the time of the pandemic, like it was like.
Gillian:Two months before the pandemic hit and we hit lockdown.
Gillian:So we're the only people to go to Israel and never see Israel
Gillian:because we were in lockdown.
Gillian:So we left after a year and a half and came back to the United
Gillian:States and that was our journey.
Gillian:So now we're moving around the United States trying to figure out where should
Gillian:we live because we don't have any place.
Gillian:We're just digital nomads.
Ian:So we met each other in the UK.
Ian:You were speaking at the uplift live conference, which is all about LinkedIn.
Ian:Your big thing is.
Ian:LinkedIn live, which is awesome.
Ian:So let's go back to the beginning.
Ian:I suppose when you first started thinking about video did you start with just
Ian:regular video or did you just jump into the deep end and look at live?
Ian:Because what I'm interested here is like a time when maybe you struggled
Ian:With the idea, getting in front of the camera with confidence tell us
Ian:a little bit about those early days.
Gillian:So my early days with video is because I come from a tech background.
Gillian:I was a technical writer and a computer trainer.
Gillian:I love helping people and showing people how to do things.
Gillian:So my early videos were loom videos where you're like the little circle
Gillian:bubble and you share your screen and you show people how to do things.
Gillian:And I was doing okay with those, but I realized I had to, step out of my comfort
Gillian:zone and Go full face into the videos.
Gillian:And that was a real struggle because it's don't you have to be 20 and blonde
Gillian:and beautiful in order to do that?
Gillian:And I wasn't, I was really uncomfortable.
Gillian:And I remember my first video that I made, I picked up my cell phone.
Gillian:And I think I must have paid 40 takes before I could choose one and I used clips
Gillian:so that it was, Apple clips so that it would have, captions and all those things.
Gillian:And I posted it to LinkedIn.
Gillian:And I remember somebody saying, you're too close.
Gillian:Your nose looks too big.
Gillian:And somebody actually put hashtag nose.
Gillian:And they put me up as a example of somebody with too
Gillian:big of a nose to do video.
Gillian:But I just kept going anyways.
Ian:That's quite a difficult start.
Ian:So so you kept going what was the turning point for you?
Ian:Because obviously like now.
Ian:You're going live regularly.
Ian:It's your business.
Ian:How did you overcome those, that fear and that nervousness and that's maybe
Ian:lack of confidence at the start.
Ian:So how did you go about doing that?
Ian:And what part of that story is live video?
Gillian:I did video for a while till I could get comfortable with it.
Gillian:And I just continued to just make videos, always envisioning the person
Gillian:on the other side of the screen.
Gillian:And I think that's important because if you put your attention on your
Gillian:audience, like you said before, it gets you out of your own head.
Gillian:And it allows you to care more about the audience and what your message is, because
Gillian:essentially people are not looking at us the way we think they're looking at us.
Gillian:They're there to either learn something or be entertained.
Gillian:So it's really important that you Make that message as a gift to your
Gillian:audience and I come from a Toastmasters background and that is the theme in
Gillian:Toastmasters is always put your focus on the audience and look for those friendly
Gillian:eyes when you're speaking in public.
Gillian:So I actually made like a little post it note.
Gillian:I call him Lenny and I put him beside the lens of my camera so that I
Gillian:could always have those friendly eyes to make me feel more comfortable.
Ian:I love that.
Ian:I think that's a great tip.
Ian:Just focusing on the people behind the camera.
Ian:And I think this is in a way, this is what I struggled with.
Ian:I struggled with a lot of things at the start, but was the fact that the camera's
Ian:this inanimate object and I can see you.
Ian:When I'm talking, which makes such a difference.
Ian:I think that when you have a guest on with live video, that makes a big
Ian:difference, but if it's just you, you're either just seeing a picture
Ian:of yourself, which is, that's a whole other thing that we could go down.
Ian:Let's get getting comfortable with the way we look is one thing, but I think
Ian:we're just wired as human beings to communicate with other human beings,
Ian:and if we just see this kind of camera then that's really hard, isn't it?
Ian:Was there a pivotal moment that, or a decision that helped you
Ian:build your confidence and do what you're doing today, or was it
Ian:more of a gradual process for you?
Gillian:I think it was more of a gradual process that I'm by nature and introvert.
Gillian:And I assumed that, introverts can't do this, but then I recognize, oh,
Gillian:people were saying they liked my videos, they were finding them helpful.
Gillian:So then I began pushing myself and I remember once I saw somebody
Gillian:else who was doing video and I thought they were doing it terribly.
Gillian:And I thought I need to up my game because what that person's saying isn't very
Gillian:good and no one will know about me if I don't get out there and push myself.
Gillian:So sometimes too, there's a little bit of, if you're not doing video and your
Gillian:competitors are doing video, that can give you a little bit of a push to,
Gillian:get over yourself and get out there.
Ian:I think that can have, it can have different effects.
Ian:I think that's a really positive effect.
Ian:You saw.
Ian:Somebody sharing video and you thought, Oh, I think I can do better than that.
Ian:It was an encouragement for you, but sometimes we can go down the
Ian:comparison route and think, Oh, there's so much better than me.
Ian:I think how we look at what other people are doing, we need to frame
Ian:it in the right way and we need to use it as an encouragement.
Ian:And we also need to become, we need to remember to be ourselves and I
Ian:think this is something that you feel strongly about when you create video,
Ian:when you go live, it's you and you embrace yourself and it's the audience
Ian:that come to watch you, they love you.
Ian:Because you're you're not trying to be somebody else.
Ian:Any thoughts on that?
Ian:Because I think this, thinking about my own journey, that
Ian:was a big problem, I think.
Ian:Because I'm like you, I'm an introvert.
Ian:And I was quite shy on camera to begin with.
Ian:And I thought I need to become someone else to begin with.
Ian:I thought I had to become this kind of really over the top, vibrant person.
Ian:I realized very quickly that wasn't going to work.
Ian:But what are your views on that?
Gillian:I so agree.
Gillian:We have to be ourselves.
Gillian:And so when you're on video, if you're just doing video and you're not even doing
Gillian:live video, imagine your best friend, how would you talk with your best friend?
Gillian:Don't all of a sudden go into business speak or teacher
Gillian:speak or whatever that is.
Gillian:It speak naturally the way that you do.
Gillian:Don't worry so much about your ums and your ahs.
Gillian:They will get better over time.
Gillian:That's why Toastmasters is so good.
Gillian:And just lean into what you do.
Gillian:If you laugh, smile, have a good time.
Gillian:I find with video you have to have a little bit of extra energy
Gillian:because the computer is so flat.
Gillian:So we almost have to have a little bit of extra energy,
Gillian:which is hard for introverts.
Gillian:So you have to be kind to yourself afterwards and have some space.
Gillian:So I know when I do video or I go liveI give myself a break afterwards because I
Gillian:know I had to be on and now I can be off.
Gillian:So I think that's important as well.
Gillian:But yes, never try to be somebody who you're not be yourself
Gillian:and just be your best self.
Ian:Love that.
Ian:yeahI call this heightened authenticity because you want to be yourself.
Ian:You want to stay being yourselfbut you do have to put a little
Ian:bit more energy behind it.
Ian:I think otherwise it can get a little bit flattened.
Ian:I'm boring.
Ian:And yeah I yeahjustI think the whole energy thing is really interesting
Ian:because some peoplesome of us get more get energized by from
Ian:what we're doing at the moment.
Ian:And I really enjoy this.
Ian:I'm loving having you on the show.
Ian:I'm really enjoying this conversation.
Ian:But I do know at the end of this, I will be listening.
Ian:Probably quite tired.
Ian:And I found when I was doing live video regularly that I was in danger of getting
Ian:burnt out because I was doing it too much.
Ian:So I think you have to be aware of your own energy levels.
Ian:You have to work that into your schedule and see how that works.
Ian:And it's obviously something that you've thought a lot about as well.
Ian:I wasn't planning on asking you this question, but I think it's
Ian:a really interesting question.
Ian:How do you work out the scheduling of your live show and the content
Ian:creation, the video facing content creation, taking into account your energy
Ian:levels as well so that you don't get
Ian:burnt
Ian:out?
Ian:. Gillian: Before my lives, because I just have to be in the
Ian:right zone in the right space.
Ian:So that's one thing that I do.
Ian:And then I also give myself time after the lives to come down.
Ian:And I really believe strongly in comments and responding to comments.
Ian:And so I make my goal that after the live, I have a nice cup of tea.
Ian:That's my British roots.
Ian:And I sit there and I dress all the comments.
Ian:And then that way that allows me to come down in gear down after the live.
Ian:That's great.
Ian:And I think I love the fact that you go in and you're commenting.
Ian:And even from a strategic point of view, that makes sense because
Ian:the you're making the LinkedIn.
Ian:Post that it becomes you're extending the longevity of that, which is
Ian:important, but also it's just the right thing to do because you might
Ian:be able to introduce people to people and answer questions and remind
Ian:people that they can watch the replay.
Ian:I love that.
Ian:This is one, one thing that a lot of people who watch this show and listen
Ian:to the show which is a bit, I don't know what that says about my audience,
Ian:but they like to hear disaster stories.
Ian:So you might not have a disaster story, but is there any kind of
Ian:disaster or mistake on camera that was a learning moment for you
Ian:and what did you learn from that?
Gillian:I love lives because it's disasters.
Gillian:It's not if it's when it's always went, when will it happen?
Gillian:So you always have to be prepared.
Gillian:So probably my worst disaster, cause there's been many to choose from, but my
Gillian:worst disaster was someone had commented that at the end of lives, It's awful.
Gillian:And they actually used me as an example and it was okay.
Gillian:It was totally okay.
Gillian:And they said, when people just hit and broadcast, it can catch you.
Gillian:And you're like, you're making the weirdest face.
Gillian:And they said, you really should have an outro at the end of your lives so that
Gillian:there's a smooth transition at the end.
Gillian:And I went, that really makes a lot of sense.
Gillian:So I went ahead and I created a wonderful outro and I was all ready to go.
Gillian:And I had my guest and we did the live, we did the intro, we did
Gillian:the live, everything was great.
Gillian:And then I went and I hit the outro and it played and it was wonderful.
Gillian:And I was just sitting there and I was watching, the video and listening
Gillian:to the music and then it ended.
Gillian:And my guest was sitting there and I was sitting there and my
Gillian:guest through clenched teeth said, I think we're still live.
Gillian:And I went Oh, I just started laughing.
Gillian:And then of course I had to go hit the end broadcast and it's always
Gillian:twice and I had to hit it again.
Gillian:And it was like, We're really leaving now, and it was just the
Gillian:funniest thing that happened.
Gillian:And I was going to go and rip it out afterwards and delete it.
Gillian:And my guest said can I see it before you do that?
Gillian:And then I said, of course.
Gillian:And then I went, I'm going to delete that.
Gillian:That's real.
Gillian:That's what happens.
Gillian:And I left it, and I actually made a post about, yes, even after going live
Gillian:for a year, I was still making mistakes.
Gillian:And that's what happens.
Ian:Love.
Ian:I love that the, yeah, we just, I don't think it matters how long you
Ian:go live the you, we are all gonna make silly mistakes like that.
Ian:I went live about a month ago and I think I forgot what show
Ian:it was 'cause I have two shows.
Ian:So welcome to the, and I dunno what I said and, one week
Ian:I'll probably forget my name.
Ian:So it's, there's so many moving parts and I love the fact that you kept that
Ian:up and you made that as a that's a way to teach and to say, look, okay,
Ian:it might be a good idea to to plan these things out, but that's great.
Ian:I love that.
Ian:So you mentioned a few times that you are an introvert.
Ian:I'm a fellow introvert as well.
Ian:So this is something I think I was interested in your view
Ian:on this in terms of how does personality play a part of this?
Ian:We've talked about energy levels.
Ian:People can be introverts or extroverts or ambiverts, people can
Ian:be shy, you can be a shy extrovert.
Ian:So what are the kind of effective strategies for people's personality
Ian:types, maybe talk about your own, but also people that you have.
Ian:taught, because I'm sure you've taught lots of different, loads
Ian:of different personalities.
Ian:So how does that help?
Ian:How?
Ian:How do you manage that in order to be confident in front of the camera and
Ian:to communicate really effectively?
Gillian:I think it's I'm a firm believer in 16 personalities, so the Myers-Briggs,
Gillian:and I'm an INFJ, and I recommend everybody go to 16 personalities.com,
Gillian:take the test and find out who you are, because that allows you to just
Gillian:go, oh, I thought that was just.
Gillian:because I was weird.
Gillian:No, it's not because you were weird.
Gillian:It's your personality.
Gillian:So you begin to learn, Oh, I'm this kind of person and I'm that kind of person.
Gillian:And it allows you to feel more confident because you understand how you tick.
Gillian:So that's really important.
Gillian:And what I found is that I look at my guests and if I focus my attention
Gillian:on making my guests feel comfortable, it's almost as if like I'm, When you go
Gillian:liveyou can see yourself as a party host.
Gillian:If you were hosting a partyyou would welcome people into your home.
Gillian:You'd be introducing them to other people.
Gillian:You would be so focused on them and having everybody have a good time.
Gillian:I think that.
Gillian:allows your natural personality come through that if you make this a good
Gillian:experience for your guestit allows you to be a little bit more confident as well.
Ian:So what would be your top tips to become more confident and in your
Ian:communication, especially in front of the camera, if you could maybe share one
Ian:or two tips so that people, they might already be going live, they might all be
Ian:doing video, but that's just not happy.
Ian:They know that there's something holding them back.
Gillian:The first thing is kick your perfectionistic tendencies to the curb.
Gillian:There is no need to be perfect.
Gillian:In fact, what it is it's progress.
Gillian:It's about your progress.
Gillian:And just look at yourself, how far you come with each and every video.
Gillian:You have to be willing to suck the first couple of times that you do video,
Gillian:because you're going to do things wrong.
Gillian:You're, your tripod's going to fall over all different things.
Gillian:I've made videos where I forgot to plug in my microphone and there's no sound.
Gillian:And I'm like, eh, you do it again.
Gillian:I've had things where the dog came in and started barking.
Gillian:It's just part of life.
Gillian:So you just keep moving forward and just know.
Gillian:Over time, you will get better with everything.
Gillian:Nobody is a, a marathon runner.
Gillian:The first day you have to jog, remember Rocky.
Gillian:It's like he was, every up every morning he could barely do it.
Gillian:But at the end, he's like running up those stairs and he's doing it.
Gillian:That's what we have to have that mindset that we have to put in the reps, put in
Gillian:the work and over time we'll get better.
Gillian:But it's all about getting rid of that perfection.
Gillian:Don't compare yourself to anybody.
Gillian:Just look at yourself and just say, how did I do?
Gillian:And analyze your videos.
Gillian:And be kind.
Gillian:Like in Toastmasters, we have to give feedback of how people did speeches.
Gillian:You can take that same evaluation quality and look at your own videos and
Gillian:sit there and say, how was my lighting?
Gillian:How was my video?
Gillian:Was it blurry?
Gillian:Was it clear?
Gillian:Did I make good eye contact with the camera?
Gillian:Did I say too many ums and ahs?
Gillian:Look at yourself like that and make notes, get a diary.
Gillian:And over time you can increase how you do something by evaluating yourself
Gillian:and setting goals to get better.
Ian:Love that you've actually answered my last question, which was
Ian:really about words of encouragement for advice and for the listeners.
Ian:But I think you've really done that because it's, it is about just getting
Ian:started, not going down the perfectionism side of things and you will get better.
Ian:It is.
Ian:If you look back at the first videos that we have created you
Ian:might be encouraged it's the point.
Ian:Yeah.
Ian:Horrendous.
Ian:Oh my goodness.
Ian:My, I still keep them up on YouTube, even though I'm tempted to take
Ian:them down from time to time.
Ian:Thank you so much, Gillian.
Ian:It's been great to have you back on the show.
Ian:So obviously you've got your LinkedIn live show that happens every week.
Ian:What's, and obviously LinkedIn is probably the best place to, to connect with you.
Ian:So tell us a little bit more about that.
Ian:What, and what your next thing that you're working on.
Ian:Cause you've, you tell us about your book again, but you've I'm sure you've
Ian:got other things that you're working on.
Ian:What, tell us a little bit more about that.
Gillian:This is the book that I just released on Friday, which
Gillian:is LinkedIn live guests mastery.
Gillian:But which is all about building your brand and attracting more clients.
Gillian:And it's an easy peasy way to get into doing live streaming because
Gillian:as a guest, you learn so much.
Gillian:So that's good.
Gillian:And then I just want to put a plug in for my previous book, which is how
Gillian:to feel more comfortable on camera.
Gillian:This is like a.
Gillian:Really easy peasy read.
Gillian:But know that you're not alone.
Gillian:You're not alone.
Gillian:And that we just have to get started and get in and know that
Gillian:people are cheering for you.
Gillian:We are cheering for you.
Gillian:Have an accountability partner and say, I want to do a video and just
Gillian:say, be my accountability partner.
Gillian:And when that video goes live for the first time and you post it up on
Gillian:linkedin or instagram or facebook.
Gillian:Ask your friends.
Gillian:Go take a look at it.
Gillian:Let me know what you think and recognize people are cheering for you.
Gillian:We want you to succeed.
Ian:Thanks, Gillian.
Ian:Some great advice.
Ian:Do check out Gillian's books.
Ian:Do connect with her on LinkedIn and watch her show.
Ian:Thank you.
Ian:It's been awesome to have you on.
Ian:Really appreciate it.
Ian:We are out of time Again, how did that happen?
Ian:It time is this bizarre thing that I can never understand.
Ian:But we are outta time.
Ian:Do check out the podcast website at iag.me/podcast where you can see and
Ian:watch and read previous episodes.
Ian:But until next time, I encourage you to level up your impact,
Ian:authority, and profits through the power of Confident Live video.
Ian:See you soon.
Ian:Bye.
Ian:Thanks for listening to the Confident Live Marketing Podcast with Ian Anderson Gray.
Ian:Make sure you subscribe at iag.me/podcast so you can continue to level up
Ian:your impact, authority and profits through the power of live video.
Ian:And until next time, Toodle