Roger
God brings for shepherds after His own heart, they have to know who they are. They have to know the relationship with God, and how He's relating to them.
Ken
And see, the truth is, we're all shepherds. And we're all sheep. We're those who absolutely care for each other in the family. It's like a natural family in one sense. A good father will look at his family and say, well, that child needs a little bit more care, I'm just going to love him on an individual level and a different way. And I'm going to build him up, I'm going to strengthen the things that are in his heart. I think the worst thing you can do is criticize somebody. The minute you criticize, that puts up a wall, in that person's thinking about himself. I can't do it. There's no way I can work this out. I tell you, there's something about laying down our lives. It's what Jesus said. He wants to be the greatest among you. If we want to be those outstanding ministries, we lay down our lives for each other. We're here to build each other up in love. And that, to me, is the greatest tool we have. We're interceding constantly. We're holding people before the Lord constantly. We're supporting each other, and seeing the things, you know, that would cause them to fall and just undergirding them strengthening, putting something below their feet that they can stand on, you know, and sometimes you just have to hear a word, man, I loved what you said this morning, how that ministered to my heart, and it's not being false is being truthful. But you're voicing it in a way is you're saying you're valuable. You're a part of what makes this thing work. And you know, everybody wants to feel a sense of, of being something more than just a cog in the wheel. They want to be something that's making things work happen.
Dale
You hit the nail on the head Ken when you said used the word Shepherd. Because if you have a shepherd's heart, you react with your heart. Now, where did you get it? God gave it to you. What do you do when God shows you that something that is not the best that somebody's into? So what's your reaction? You're going to stay with them as having a shepherd's heart. Nobody in my mind blows out. There's no such thing as a blowout. There is no such thing as a quitter. Lord, is it time to do what it takes to bring them back? Is it time to enter enter intercession on their behalf? A shepherd's cry is come out of her my people, come out of her, My people. That's the cry of a shepherd's heart. It's the shepherds and their intercession of standing in the gap. Did you give up on him? No, I didn't give up on him.
Ron
Talking about a heart of love that refuses human perception. You know, you see it. You can't help but see it. But it's the perception of the pure, you continue to love you continue to love. You continue to love.
Ken
When you start feeling the responsibility, that's the beginning of a shepherd's heart right, there. Because if you care about what happens to the brethren, and and you see them down a little bit or going through something, getting hit on a physical level, whatever it is, and your heart is goes, No Lord, I just want to stand with that person and be something that will create a force and be more than they ever were before. You know, it's like that cry in your heart. You can't help yourself. When you get to this place. You care so much that you feel this responsibility. That's not your kind of responsibility. This is a responsible ability that God imparts to the heart of his shepherd.
Deborah
Remember when Christ was talking to Peter on the beach? And He said, Peter, do you love Me? Feed my lambs? Peter, do you love Me? Feed My sheep? Take care of them, minister to them, love them, stand in the gap for them, do not let them go.
Ken
I think we're in the most creative, wonderful time of our lives now where we have this ability to create those brethren, that are going to be a part of the thing that makes up the family, the body of Christ.
Dale
Doesn't does the Scripture say that we are co creators with him?
Deborah
Yes, we are. My heart has been broken a lot lately. It's been breaking for people that have let something go. Let go of, you know, their first love. They need to know You. They need to have a revelation of who You are. They need to have a meeting with You just appear to the Lord. Just appear to them and they will become. Such a brokenness on my heart for the people.
Ken
We should be worshiping, and thanking Him forever, for doing what He's done in our lives, because He is the Great Shepherd, who's creating shepherds after His own heart. And that's what he says in the Old Testament, I will create shepherds after My own heart. And I believe that's what we're seeing. God is creating shepherds after His own heart.
Roger
I was thinking Deb, there's a scripture I like to read. You know, you were talking about the aching in your heart, for others, too deep for words at times this the heart ache. Listen to this Scripture, you know, sounds familiar. But let's this hear it, it starts out Paul writes in Romans eight. “But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance, we wait eagerly for it.” And then he says, “in the same way,” what way is that? Having a hope we don't see but persevering and waiting for it. “In the same way, the Spirit also helps our weakness, we do not know how to pray as we should, the Spirit Himself intercedes with groaning's,” is the thing of the ache in our heart. And it goes on to say; “and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints, according to the will of God.” The greatest intercession of all, is this, the groanings too deep for words, the ache of our hearts, for situations and for people
Dale
You know whom makes the most effective Shepherd? The sheep. What did What did Christ say? My sheep know My voice. Those sheep follow the Shepherd. That's because they know His voice. They know that the Shepherd is going to provide them with protection, with food, attention. The Shepherd is everything to a sheep. That's where when the time comes that God puts you in a place of being a shepherd. You've been taught very well, because you've been taught by His Son.
