Thank you so much for being here with us today with two of my dear friends who are both pioneers in consciousness.

Donald Hoffman received a PhD from MIT and is a Professor emeritus of Cognitive Sciences at the University of California Irvine. His research on perception, evolution and consciousness received the Trillium Award of the US National Academy of Sciences. He is the author of the best selling book, The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid The Truth from Our Eyes.

We also have Dr. Jude Currivan, who is a Cosmologist, planetary healer, futurist, author, and co-founder of Whole Worldview. She was previously one of the most senior busineswomen in the UK and has a master's degree in physics from Oxford. Specializing in quantum physics in cosmology, as well as a PhD in anthropological archeology from the University of Redding researching ancient Cosmology, she has traveled to nearly 80 countries and worked with Wisdom Keepers for many traditions.

Her extensive experience and knowledge of world events, systems and trends has led her to speak on transformational reforms in the UK, US, Europe, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. Jude also has a bestselling book that is already on the bestseller list before it even launches, called The Story of Gaia.

In this interview with Drs. Hoffman and Currivan, you'll discover:

-Differences in perspective lead to healthy discussion and broadening of worldviews...02:11

-The bottom has fallen out from physicalism...06:50

-The notion of "agent" regarding consciousness vs. physicalism...17:02

-There is no "theory of everything"...26:05

-We're co-creators of the universe...34:13

-Mind and consciousness is not what we have, but what we are...40:42

-Profound guidance from Gaia and spiritual beings...48:22

-And much more...

Resources mentioned:

The Story of Gaia by Jude Currivan

The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid The Truth from Our Eyes by Don Hoffman