In this episode we are talking about overwhelm and how it effects us.

Helen and Jane have both gone through huge overwhelm periods but have learnt how they find what works for them to overcome them.

Overwhelm can effect us all at some point, and it's important to have ways that work for you to be able to work through it and overcome it.

Listen in to hear some of the strategies Helen and Jane use, they could help you too!

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ceri-intro-and-outro_recording-8_2022-10-07--t08-49-09am--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Hello, and welcome to episode

number 10 of Fabulous and Female.

I'm Helen Corie Camo, an award winning business mindset and fertility

coach and a mom to twin girls.

ceri-intro-and-outro_recording-8_2022-10-07--t08-49-09am--guest775274--jane: And I'm Jane Mack, a visibility coach,

bestselling author, and mom to two boys.

And our podcast is about having honest conversations with busy, ambitious

females, about growing your business to create financial freedom, having a

better balanced life, and avoid burnout.

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leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Hello and welcome to episode

10 of Fabulous and Female.

Jane and I this week are talking about the big O overwhelm.

This is such a big topic for both Jane and I and we've experienced

it in so many different ways from really sort of big episodes of

overwhelm and just ongoing overwhelm.

We talk about this quite a lot.

So, Jane, what can you say would be your sort of biggest overwhelm,

state that you've ever been in?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I get overwhelmed quite easily.

As you know, Helen I've always got less.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: patients,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I know.

Oh, I'm overwhelmed.

That's hilarious.

Let's laugh about it.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Oh, we can either laugh or cry, can't we?

So, yeah, let's laugh.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: absolutely.

I do.

I do get overwhelmed very easily.

Um, and thankfully, I do have strategies in place that I know what I need to

do to get through and get over it.

When I look back over sort of suppose the last sort of 10, 12 years or so,

there's probably been a few episodes.

I've been, it's been like huge.

I suppose One of them was probably when I bought my last business

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Oh yeah.

Okay.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: um, bought a business I had never

worked in before, so that was nice.

Um, decided to move

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: I love that.

No, that was nice.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Um, not only did I buy a business at

the same time as in like within the same week we moved height cuz we had to

move to an island to run the business.

So we were moving to a completely different location with people

that I didn't know and had the whole was he started life over.

Um, we had an 18 month old who.

Then had to go into childcare for the first time, cuz I'd had been

really lucky to have the time off.

Um, so that was getting him into childcare.

Cuz obviously that obviously pulls in your heartstrings when you put your child

into childcare first and they look at you and they cry and it's like, oh my god.

Um,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Oh, I dunno mind.

I was like, Okay.

Bye bye,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: oh, I

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: I love I love you.

Bye.

Bye.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I didn't feel bad leaving him.

It was more I was like, Oh my God, you're really upset.

Oh my God, I hate

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah.

Oh yeah, of course.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Um, and then on top of it, obviously you

had to learn the business and, and as I started to learn it, I, in my head, went

to overdrive of, I want to do this and I want to do that, and then I need do this.

And I started to find lots of things in the business where I wanted to

fix, but I wanted to fix them there.

And then immediately I didn't wanna have to plan it because I'm not impatient and

I wanted everything fixed straight away.

So I think when you rolled all that in over the space of a few months

of everything happening, then.

That was a big part of overwhelm.

That was huge.

Where I was just like, Oh my God.

There was a lot of tearful moments at the breakfast table

going, What the hell am I doing?

What have we done?

What the heck is this?

This is just unbelievable.

It's a nightmare.

Um, but it wasn't a nightmare.

It was just I had to then find my ways to sort it out and go through it all.

And I think from.

Obviously I don't think anything's been as big as that.

I think my overwhelm now

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: That's pretty big though,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: as

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: It's it's

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I'm glad.

Yeah, I'm glad there's not another one like that.

I could, I've had my big overwhelm, so, um, I'd say neither.

They're smaller batches but more frequent.

Probably

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: again, we're laughing.

What are

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I at that.

I dunno why I laugh at that happens

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: this, This must be one of your

strategies that actually overwhelm is okay, and you can laugh about it.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: do you know a, a funny thing actually

and you just, you say that, right?

So this used to happen in my, in the last business.

So with the girls in the office and stuff, there'd be like four and five of us there.

And they all used to know when I was going into that overwhelmed state.

Cause I would just start that sort of nervous, laughing.

I would start and they go, Oh no.

Oh no.

Geez, dear.

No nervous, laughing, oh my God.

Like

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: change.

You need a

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: And I just be like, Oh, well

there's sister doing that to me and this person that, And then I

just start this sort of laughing.

They'll be like, Oh God, here she goes, Okay, this isn't good.

So yeah, it must be, I must automatically go into laughter

when I go into it for a while.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Do you know why though?

A lot of people do that because it's, it's one of those things

that, you know, Consciously, Sorry.

Unconsciously, we just do, don't we?

We don't know.

That's the way of like, uh, expressing the, how we're feeling

sometimes is just by laughing.

And I just on that it's not really linked to overwhelm, but you know,

when some people find it when, there's been a loss in, in the family

or friend or something and, and.

You know, their way of dealing with it is actually by laughing and, and

giggling rather than the feeling of fear.

So, yes, it's interesting.

What, just out of interest, you know, like overwhelm, We

say it comes from, from things.

What are the, like the real feelings, like in the emotions

that you feel when you know you're going into an overwhelmed state?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I think the initial is

that sort of stress factor

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Mm.

Yeah.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Oh, I, it's like I can't, I can't

break everything down in my head.

and it's that way of, that I wouldn't even say I, it's not anxious.

It's more just that, that stress way of, I don't know how I'm going

to get to where I need to be.

And that worry and that constant, having that sort of constant panic

sometimes of all this stuff and I can't get it done and I need to do

it, and if I don't do it, this is gonna happen and that's gonna happen.

And it goes in that sort of panic mode where, and actually nothing gets done.

Obviously when you're gonna do

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Well, that's

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: gets done.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah.

Nothing gets done when you're going too overwhelmed.

Is it?

Nothing.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: not at all.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: It's so interesting and

it's similar for me actually.

, it's that panic and you need to do everything now.

And your sort of mind goes into that massive overdrive.

Um, and if you don't do it now, you know, what are the consequences gonna be?

That's, that's for me, overwhelm is, is I always think of.

, what's not gonna happen?

So if I don't do it all now, you know, what are the, what

are the outcomes of that?

You know, what are the effects if I don't do it all now?

And that's something that really plays on my mind.

Um, yeah, it's, it's a massive thing.

Overwhelm, like, and it's funny because it's not funny.

It's not funny.

It's all I keep saying funny.

No, I'm gonna change the word overwhelm.

Just a funny, that funny thing that we do,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: It happens, but.

, leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: yeah, so for me, like one of the biggest,

, like episodes or whatever you wanna call it, was I, when the girl, when my

twins were really young, and I was in that newborn mum stage, you know, we

were, Everyone knows this when they were born, they were, we were born the week

before the pandemic, so we were in that.

Pandemic stage and there was the twins, you know, we were in a pandemic.

Um, there was just so much, so much going on.

And also I was starting my, this business now, my coaching business

and in my head very impatient me.

I was like, Right, all this needs to be done.

But I can't do it because the twins are not sleeping.

I'm not sleeping.

I'm tired.

My husband's going off to work.

There was all this stuff, like just stuff going on that I couldn't control.

And for me, not being in control equals overwhelm for me.

Like that's the one thing.

I think it's the lack of control really equals overwhelm.

Um, It's, it's funny that I keep saying funny.

It's funny, cuz now I do get overwhelmed.

Like, it's, it's a, I think it is a natural, a natural thing, isn't it?

You know, there's, there's still so much going on, but it's now like, how

you deal with it is, is so important.

So, so important.

What strategies have you got in place then, now, Jane, to help you with?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Um, first thing I need to

do is I needed to stop.

Stop things.

Just stop everything and I need to get everything out of my head.

I am a real pen and paper person and I need to get it

out of my head and get a list.

And now I usually have two.

I've got a household list of things outside of work and I've

got my business list and I just need to get it all outta my head.

And sometimes, quite often I've got.

Probably like a lot of people, um, I have maybe two or three notebooks floating

around and I need to go into those and pull all the bits out because one thing

that causes me overwhelmed, which I really stopped doing now, is having so many

notebooks, putting so much stuff in, but then not, I don't do anything with it at

the time, and then have to try and find it, go back to it, remember that thing.

And so that's where I need to kind of keep everything now one place.

And one list.

And if I can get everything outta my head, that's a big, big starting

for me is getting all out of my

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah.

And is

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: it, is what so much goes around.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: thought and another thought.

Um, and quite often, even if it, if there's a lot of stuff in my

head and I'm not near pen period, I far into my notes from my phone.

Cause I can email it to myself.

It's getting outta my head is the big thing for me.

Cuz otherwise I can't switch off from it.

I gotta take it out.

Take.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: it's, um, it's, So that's the

best way for you then is, is like

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: download it all.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: getting out of your head.

Yeah.

Again, do you ever talk to anyone about like, overwhelm?

Is anyone there to support you with it?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: generally those are in any of the

coaching groups I'm in is Teddy, where, where it comes out, um, at home.

Yeah, certainly the house stuff would be, I'd say to my husband, I'd like,

We need to do this, this, and this.

I've gotta do this, this.

He'd be the one who's like, Like, what do I need to do it right now?

Do I need to do it right now?

And I'll be like, No, it's

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: No.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: that wants, it's me that

wants do it right now.

You know?

And he'll, you know, I be like, Well we need to do, we need to do that.

We need to get, And he'll be like, Well I'm not doing it now.

It's not gonna be great.

We don't have to do it.

We just, why do you need to do it?

Why does everything have to be done?

And I'm like, I think, cuz it's in my head.

That's why I need to get everything.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah, yeah.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Right, what actually do I need to do?

What actually is gonna make any difference to my life if I do or

don't do it as prioritizing it from

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Absolutely prioritizing that.

That can be really difficult though for some people.

Just even that prioritizing things cuz everything, when you're in

that overwhelmed stage, you feel like everything is important.

Like, Everything's gotta be done now.

Um, so you'll know this, Jane, but one thing that I say is like, what's the

one thing, the one thing that you can do right now that's gonna help you in

whatever way you are in that overwhelm?

You know, if that's in your business, in your life, and just do that one thing.

And once you do that one thing, well that's done.

And then you can do the one next thing.

But it is difficult for people to even get to that stage.

And it is, it is so similar to me, James.

So, I always say to my husband, right, can he to do this, this, this,

this, and, and he's, he's so chilled.

He's the most like horizontal person.

he'll just look.

Sometimes he'll even answer me, He doesn't even answer.

And I'm like, You know what?

Okay, he's taken it in his head.

He won't do any of it cuz he'll know what's a, what's a priority and

he'll just get that done rather than all the other million things that,

um, that I think need to be done.

But also though isn't it interesting?

For me and for you, like we need to get it all out, and that really helps us.

But for like, for my husband James, he, he doesn't need to do that.

Like everyone is so different how they cope with things.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Yeah, definitely.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah,

I know.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Whenever I know when I get things out

my head and yeah, one, I think it's one side, the head, it's done, not done the

way, but it's, it's in another place.

I don't have to think as much about it, but for me then if I, it's, there's a

visual side to it, to, if I have a list of stuff and I start to do them, I love

a big, bright highlighter and scrub it off the list because I can then see

in that list how much is being done.

And it's like this big o relief of I'm getting through

it, I'm getting through it.

It's just like, there's like a, a joy factor in, you know, writing that

off the list that you've done it.

But that's a visual thing.

I love to look at it and see the color and I have a box of highlights cause

I absolutely love just to see that

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: ticking it off.

Yeah.

And, and it goes to show though that also how much you have achieved and that's

really important to focus on what you have achieved rather than what you haven't.

Like for me, that is one of the strategies I got in place now is to focus on

all the things that I have achieved, rather the stuff that I haven't.

Cuz otherwise you focus on the negative.

That's all you're gonna remember, but once you start to think,

Oh, actually I've done X, Y, Z.

Right.

Okay.

I have actually done quite a bit.

So yeah, focusing on what you have done rather than you haven't, I think is really

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: And I think it's quite hard for people to

look back at what they have done because they see it so much still to be done.

And when you're running a business, there's always gonna be stuff, there's

always gonna be a continual list of things to do so people can, So people struggle to

look at, well, what have we done so far?

Rather than, it's always like, But I've still got all this.

And it's a constant add on to it.

But, um, if you say it's just by looking back at that, what you've.

Can really show you actually what, what am I getting stressed so much about?

I've done all less stuff.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: I know.

And that's the other thing, like with all these emotions that we get, you

know, what does overwhelm, what does stress, what does it actually bring you?

It, it brings you the stress levels.

It brings you all the negative.

Energy when actually, if you focus on what we have achieved, what does

that, how does that make you feel now?

Does that make you feel better?

Does, might me feel good?

Yeah.

It's gonna give you that positive, you know, what's it called?

Indoor things, you know, give you that bit of that boost.

Yeah.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I know.

The other thing is with stress and or overwhelm, I want to eat as well.

So , you know, it's that

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: go there with that.

It's so linked with so many people, isn't it?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: totally.

And it's like for me it's that, oh, I have so much to do, I don't know

what to do, so I better eat something,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah.

It's avoiding.

It's avoiding, isn't it?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: know, I'll eat something.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: what

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: And that naturally it has to be

something sweet because it's like, that's the one thing, Maybe it's those

endorphin things you're looking for.

That's what you need.

You need that fix and that boost.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Absolutely and I

completely agree with that.

For me it's like, I'll go make a cup of coffee cuz I'll just avoid it.

It on the flip side of that, I think it's a really good tip is actually,

you mentioned it earlier, is to actually, when you're in that state

of overwhelm, it's actually just stop what you're doing, change your state.

So by that, you know, Changing where you are.

If you are in your office or if in your kitchen, and if that particular

place is causing you overwhelm, leave it, you know, go outdoors.

Go to a different room, you know, go for a walk, do something else that's

gonna take you away from where that overwhelm is causing you that stress.

So, yeah, for me, I've just been into the kitchen now to make a cup, a cup of

coffee before, before we are chatting and, um, the, the girls are home today

and I just looked around and just gone.

Goodness.

It is like a bomb.

Hit it.

And my house was immaculate yesterday, immaculate.

And I'm like, Okay, I'm just gonna leave the kitchen because this

place is causing me too much stress.

Um, you know, it'll be clear by tonight when they go to bed, but it's

like, Oh yeah, just leave the place that's given you that overwhelm.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Yeah.

I mean sometimes like I know this morning coming in, cuz at the moment I'm working

in my bedroom because I've got, family standing in my office slash spare room.

And this morning before I could sit down to do anything.

I could see, I thought I need to tidy up in here, which I did.

And when I tid that, because that was just actually adding to my

like, Oh God, everything's a mess.

And there's stuff all about, See, when I cleared that, it

was like right, a clear eye.

Now I can sit down properly cuz otherwise I'd sit, try and do something.

I'd a corner of one eye.

I'd say, Well why those shoes all line?

And why is that?

And what's, There's no point.

I'm as well just taking 15.

In Claire put away and give myself a nice space to work in.

And that is with just sometimes those we simple things of giving yourself that

space and somewhere nice to go, Right, okay, I've got this somewhere nice.

Now I can kind of be a bit more organized, a bit more logical about what

I'm doing and thinking about as well.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: absolutely.

I, yeah, I'm, I'm exactly the same.

If something is really messy in my vision, that just adds

to my stress and my overwhelm.

So another tip, from me on what I do and my strategies on

overwhelm is actually focus on the solutions rather than the problems.

so if you start to continuously just look at.

All of your long to-do list or all the problems that are around you, the mess and

all that, It's actually, if you focus on that, that's all you're gonna remember.

So actually, if you focus on the solutions of what you can do, that really helps me.

, so this morning, classic example, our childcare just, they couldn't

come and look after the girls today.

Oh, it's like bloody hell.

Right.

Okay.

What can we do?

And you know what?

We just had to change our path slightly.

Go in different directions.

We've tag team, we're tagging team in the girls today cuz James is out to stay home.

And actually we just focus on the solution rather than the problem.

We've overcome it , we're dealing with it.

And it's absolutely fine.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Yeah.

The thing is, at the end of the day, there's nothing that can't be sorted.

There's nothing that can't be, you know, sorted, fixed, worked around.

It's always away around.

And you know, I even realized the other day on, early on this

week, I went away to an event.

And for me to go to an event, coming from an island, it's not just a jump in

your car, go for the day and come back.

I, That doesn't happen in my life at

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: you've literally gotta go on every mode

of transport just to get somewhere.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I didn't realize, well, there had

been train strikes, but then they were suspended, but they couldn't get all

the trains back in the right place.

I didn't even think of this affecting me.

So I got off the ferry, no trains at all.

I had to get an R 15 minute bus to get to Kamar to then get a bus to

glass, a glass boat to Edinburgh.

So it took me over five hours journey, which should have taken me about three.

Um, and I was like, Oh my God.

Now I could have, I could have gone.

Do you know, I'm not doing this because this is just too much to do.

It's too much to do.

It's gonna be too much hustle and all that.

I thought, no, cause I can still get there, it's gonna take me a bit longer.

It was a bit of a crazy journey, I have to say, some of the buses, but

it was adventure and it was, um, yes, there was, I could tell a few tales

from a few bus journeys, however, but, the thing was if you let we,

things that stop you, we wouldn't do.

, you know, Cause I was, I could have let that totally overwhelm me and be like, Oh

my God, I can't get, And you'd get there.

I was gonna get there.

It was just gonna be longer.

So there's nothing, you know, so for me, I have to plan a lot.

If I'm going off, I have to get, you know, my mother-in-law were to help me

because the boys get out to school in the morning, gave us way to work early.

So there's a lot of logistics that have to go on, but it just, because it takes

a bit more planning, it shouldn't get in your way, you know, So, cuz quite.

We could look and go, Well, I've got, I have to get somebody for kids.

I've gotta get this, I've gotta get that.

All these things I have to do, So I, I can't make it work.

We can make it

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: You can.

Yeah.

And you do, you do.

And I'm sure there's still some levels of, you know, stress there in the background

thinking, is it all gonna piece together?

But it absolutely does.

Absolutely does.

I dunno how you do it, James, be fair.

You know, , just going on all those roads of transport.

The other thing I would say with that though, what an opportunity

just to actually do nothing and like, you know, just sit on your

phone and scroll if you wanted, or.

Read a book.

Listen to a podcast.

Oh, what a dream.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: it shouldn't have taken that way of to,

I should have easily got off the ferry, double train, the Glasgow train ed, boom.

Done.

Quick and easy, direct, you know, total direct.

But um, and I had all these lovely things planned cause I thought,

well, it's a good few hours.

I'm gonna add my lap, laptop charged.

I was, I have different things.

I wasn't gonna do work work, but I thought there's bits I wanna work on.

I just gonna put her way on, on the train and stuff

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Bit of admin.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: I can just put her away with.

Of course, none of that happened at.

and I, you know, I got the hotel.

I thought, I've not done this, I've not done that.

I thought, well, so what?

Nothing's gonna change cause I haven't done it.

Nothing.

Um,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: that's a really good way of focusing

on something that, you know, what is gonna materially happen if

you don't do something that day.

I always say, unless you are a life saving, you know, surgeon or, or

something like that, where you, you are needed in a certain space.

Nothing is gonna happen and it can stay until tomorrow

or the next day or next week.

Um, yeah.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Yeah.

There's nothing that, and I, it's like I always tell people, your business

will not fall apart just because you didn't do this one thing or you, you

took a day away to an event or whatever.

It doesn't fall apart at all.

Not at all.

Nope.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: people forget that.

Like when you're going to say you're going to a network and event, you know, and that

for you was three days really, wasn't it?

Away from home.

Your life your business as such.

But actually that is work.

People forget that, you know, think that, Oh yeah, but I'm not actually working.

Well, you are because you're trying to create, you know, um, leads or

connections communicating with people and they think then, Oh, I've lost,

you know, I've lost three days of work.

Well, you haven't.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: haven't, Not at

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Not at all.

Not at all.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: No.

It's just your, That's another way of growing your business

that's not sitting at a desk.

It's a very nice way to grow your business.

And I had a lovely day.

It was very nice.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Well, I know you, I saw John

Perseco, you had lovely lunch.

What's going on?

You dressed up.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: It was great.

I got my heels on, my wave went, so absolutely.

It's just a nice way to do business.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: It is.

It's a really nice way, you know.

So what would you say, Jane, the, the top tip for you now, just to sort of

wrap up how you deal with overwhelm now?

That would maybe help our audience?

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: For me, it's definitely get out, get

outta your head and break it down.

Just break it down into little small chunks and deal with the things

that are absolutely necessary to do.

and then deal with the rest cuz nothing's gonna fall apart cause you don't do

everything on your list that day.

It's a bit breaking it down for me is what I need to do.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Yeah.

Love that.

Love that.

And, and for me it's , definitely for me is changing my environment.

So if, if, for example, the kitchen is.

Given me massive overwhelm on my office.

I've got so much stuff that's going on, I will just literally leave that

environment, go away, you know, do something that brings me joy for

half an hour, go for a walk, listen to some music, do something that's

really nice and happy, and then I can come back to it with a fresh mind.

So that, that really helps for me is yeah, changing state or

changing the environment I'm in.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Oh, definitely.

I think there's, I think for anyone, it's just finding your

way that works for you as well.

You know, finding all the things, taking all the, tips and things that you can do.

And just do what works for you, because everyone'll be different and just,

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: And that's the thing cuz every,

everyone is so different, you know, and, and stuff, like, for me, like

getting things outta my head is really important, but I never, I never write

it down on a pen, on a, a pen and paper.

Um, I'll like talk it out.

I do occasionally, but for me, yeah, what works for you

isn't gonna always work for me.

So it is, yeah, definitely finding in your own way.

, and ultimately though, if you are in that state of when overwhelm gets, just

gets too much is please talk for somebody about it cuz there are loads of people out

there that will support you and listen.

Um, because it can become a much bigger thing

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: Yeah.

Definit.

. And even just by talking out some of the stuff, when you start

talking out, you start solving the problem in that conversation, even

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: totally do.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: of a sudden you've just answered your own

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: Answered your own

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: own problems, all in one go,

and you're like, Oh, right.

Yeah.

So

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: yeah, yeah.

You do.

You really do.

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: So I think that this episode

today actually ties in really nicely this week because it is,

National Stress Awareness Week.

So, and obviously overwhelmed can lead to stress and vice versa.

So, so yeah, I think it's just ties in very nicely this week.

So hopefully anyone listening who feels any overwhelm, urges, or anything

coming on, then do try some of the tips.

Find something that works for you and, uh, let's get out your

head or write it down or speak to somebody or move about the place.

Then do what, Do what works for

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--62f24825f1f4b50164e72a69--fabfemales: do what works for

leek-potato-overwhelm_recording-1_2022-11-10--t02-15-49pm--guest775274--jane: everything can be overcome

and everything can be.

we end every episode with a top tip for

you and today's top tip is difficult roads lead to beautiful destinations.

Outro - Difficult roads Jane: And our leaving message to you

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