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8:03 Heartache
Episode 325th January 2024 • Devil's Trap: A Supernatural Podcast • Don't Be A Dick Productions
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Summary

In this episode, Diana and Liz catch up on their recent activities and discuss rockabilly and swing dancing. They then review Season 8, Episode 3 of Supernatural, titled 'Heartache,' and discuss the cultural implications of the episode. The conversation shifts to Sam's hair and Dean's new app before diving into the investigation of the heart-ripping cases. They explore the connection between organ transplants and the ritualistic killings. The episode concludes with Randa's conversation with Brick Holmes' mother and the translation of the Mayan chant. Sam and Dean investigate a case involving a series of murders connected to organ transplants. They discover that the killer is a woman named Randa who is using Mayan rituals to gain supernatural powers. As they delve deeper into the case, Sam expresses his desire to quit hunting and live a normal life, which causes tension between him and Dean. They eventually confront Randa at a strip club and defeat her, resolving the case. The episode explores themes of sacrifice, the desire for a normal life, and the complexities of Mayan culture and mythology. In this conversation, the hosts discuss various aspects of the TV show Supernatural. They highlight inconsistencies in Dean's characterization, the reordering of episodes, and the absence of the mayor character. Overall, they express confusion and dissatisfaction with these elements of the show.

Takeaways

  • The cultural portrayal in Season 8, Episode 3 of Supernatural raises concerns and criticism from indigenous communities.
  • Sam's focus on finding Kevin and the tablet contrasts with Dean's enthusiasm for solving the heart-ripping cases.
  • The investigation reveals a connection between organ transplants and the ritualistic killings.
  • The episode explores themes of identity, sacrifice, and the pursuit of a normal life. The Mayan god of corn and the rituals associated with it are explored in the episode.
  • Sam expresses his desire to quit hunting and live a normal life, causing tension between him and Dean.
  • The episode delves into the complexities of Mayan culture and mythology, highlighting the misinterpretation of Mayan language and gods.
  • The episode also explores the themes of sacrifice and the lengths people will go to gain power and immortality. Inconsistencies in character development can be jarring for viewers.
  • The reordering of episodes can disrupt the narrative flow and impact the understanding of character arcs.
  • Minor characters, such as the mayor, can add depth and enjoyment to a show.
  • Attention to detail, such as showing characters mentioned in phone conversations, can enhance the viewing experience.

Chapters

00:00

Introduction and Catching Up

03:59

Discussion on Rockabilly and Swing Dancing

07:53

Review of Supernatural Season 8, Episode 3: Heartache

12:18

Discussion on Sam's Hair and Dean's App

18:43

Investigation of Heart Ripping Cases

21:15

Arthur's Eye Transplant and Self-Mutilation

24:49

Research on Organ Donors and Rituals

27:36

Randa's Ritual and Heart Ripping

30:09

Meeting with Brick Holmes' Mother

31:50

Randa's Conversation with Eleanor

32:07

Translation of Mayan Chant

32:22

The Mayan God of Corn

33:18

Dean's Email and Sam's Options

34:21

Sam's Desire for a Normal Life

35:05

Investigating Brick's House

36:03

Discovering Brick's Secret Room

37:20

The History of Mayan Gods and Sacrifices

38:11

Misinterpretation of Mayan Language and Gods

39:13

Mayan Sacrifices and Bloodletting Rituals

40:42

Mayan Sports and Sacrifices in Ball Games

45:49

Sam and Dean's Conversation about Quitting Hunting

52:26

Eleanor's Revelation and Brick's Immortality

54:45

Confronting Randa at the Strip Club

56:13

Defeating Randa and Resolving the Case

59:28

Sam and Dean's Conversation about Their Future

01:00:38

Casting Couch

01:04:18

Overall Assessment of the Episode

01:07:26

Inconsistencies in Dean's Characterization

01:08:12

Reordering of Episodes

01:08:21

The Absence of the Mayor

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Transcripts

Jerk (:

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap Podcast. My name's Diana.

Bitch (:

And I'm Liz.

Jerk (:

I almost forgot that we're podcast. I don't know what I'm doing over here. Don't mind me. Happy Monday or whatever day it is recording. Um, we're yeah.

Bitch (:

That's just the thing, you know

Bitch (:

It is Monday, because I'm just gonna start hitting my head on this keyboard. It's a fucking Monday.

Jerk (:

Oh, it was a very Monday Monday. We're talking about season eight, episode three, heartache today. What have you been up to in the meantime?

Bitch (:

I have no idea. I honestly just blanked on anything like that has not involved me laying on my couch and watching obscured Disney movies.

Jerk (:

You have been down watching some obscure Disney movies. I'm pretty impressed with some of the ones you located.

Bitch (:

Well, I did find out that Mr. Boogity, which I highly recommend if you've not seen it, does have a sequel and it's called The Bride of Boogity. And I just haven't had the mindset to watch the sequel to it yet, but I was very excited to learn that.

Jerk (:

Noted. Whereas Diana's over here just deep in catching up on old seasons of Married at First Sight. Um, it's terrible. Uh, I went and saw some bands. I know that's shocking information. I know. It's crazy. Crazy.

Bitch (:

What? Oh my God. Diana went and saw bands somewhere. Was that a venue you owned or a venue your friends own?

Jerk (:

Uh, I don't own a venue, but yes, the answer is yes. Um, so yeah, no, we got to see, uh, it was quite a variety. We did, um, Angel White and Valerie June at the Longhorn Ballroom and then Lulu and the Black Sheep and Justin Pickard and the Thunderbird Winehouse at Double Wide. Here's fun takes from takeaways from that. Number one, well, I got to see two friends, uh, that one just got out of.

hospital like almost died and I got to see them. That was pretty cool. My firefighter buddy that I mentioned before. And then the other one just got out of prison for weed cookies. So that was cool to see those people. Dave and I had a minor revelation. I think Rockabilly might be coming back.

Bitch (:

Maybe. Although I did I did. Okay, so rockabilly did come back this weekend. That's because my watch my mom is dating a vampire and in that in that movie, Mr. Sheffield tries to date rape and Hilda from Sabrina I'm just telling you that's a plot of the movie. If you watch it, you will see. But in the movie Hilda is really into rockabilly. And like, she's like, she's like, Oh, my god, we're gonna go see this venue. And then she was like, Oh, there's a rockabilly band playing. And I was like,

Jerk (:

Cause I was

Jerk (:

Yes!

Jerk (:

Ugh.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

they keep saying rockabilly and then they like watched it and it was the royal crowns and they were like children when they were playing in it because they were babies and we were probably babies so i don't know is as long as like swing dancing doesn't come back we don't have a resurgence of gap khakis i'm fine

Jerk (:

Yeah. Well...

Jerk (:

Well, it was pretty funny because like the bands, like they're not rockabilly bands, to be clear, but they've got definitely that throwback. Well, I think one of them is, but they've got like that throwback vibe and it was just people were really into it. And I started doing the math. I'm like, OK, so if everything's on like a 20, 25 year cycle on like being like popular, even in subculture, we're hitting about that from the last big like rockabilly revamp. No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the Justin Pickard and Lulu and the Black Sheep. Yeah, not Valerie Jean. Now that's like.

Bitch (:

Are you talking about Valerie June?

Bitch (:

Okay, I was like, oh, okay. That's soul throwback, but yeah.

Jerk (:

Afro soul folk music. She was solo playing like a mandolin, it was crazy. But yeah, it was, it was, yeah. The rockabilly vibes at Double Wide were very different than the solo soul folk vibes at Longhorn. But anyways, those are my stories. So my observation on subculture popularity.

Bitch (:

Yeah, no, but the cycle would be right. You know, as the time goes, the cycle goes, it would be correct.

Jerk (:

That's what I was thinking. I was like, it just dawned on me while I'm standing there watching it. I was like, Oh shit, this is, it's the cycle. It's happening. So, and Dave did get us swing dance classes by the way. So Dave and I are going to take a private swing dance lesson.

Bitch (:

I could just teach you.

Jerk (:

Well, I mean, he was being cute.

Bitch (:

I know, it's cute. I'm gonna vomit.

Jerk (:

It was for a fundraiser, so it's whatever. But we'll go do that.

Bitch (:

Yeah, is it is it West Coast or is it? OK, at least it's not like the jive or something. I say this like I used to teach swing dancing people. I'm not just shitting on this, like I'm shitting on it because I did it for too long and. That the after you did it for so long, like I just, you know.

Jerk (:

Yes.

No.

Jerk (:

No, and I generally know like, like I know the basic step. I can follow somebody, but I'm like, yeah, we have, we have. I'm just not good. It'll be fun, but is something to go do? I guess.

Bitch (:

I think we've danced together. I think I have like, yeah, I was like, no, I like, you know, you know.

Bitch (:

Yes, because you clearly don't have enough to do. Filling up and filling up your time was obviously the problem that you needed to solve.

Jerk (:

at all.

Jerk (:

That's the problem. I know. Speaking of things to do, this weekend, we're going to the Lone Star Paracon in Shirts, Texas.

Bitch (:

We are, we're going to the fabulous Shirts Texas where we can't speed or we'll get a ticket. That's what I know about shirts.

Jerk (:

That's what we know. Well, we're going to go to see some speakers, talk about paranormal, and cryptids, and all kinds of things.

Bitch (:

They're all famous, but they're like famous if you watch the Travel Channel.

Jerk (:

They are. I was talking. I guess I don't watch. I don't watch enough of those shows, apparently. But I was talking to my parents. I was like, yeah, this guy from this could be on there. My dad and my mom are like, oh, yeah. But I think, oh, yeah, I watched part of that series. Like, OK, y'all know almost more of these people than I do. But that's all.

Bitch (:

Yeah, no, my mom watched a lot of the par- I don't know. That is also a mom and Liz can watch together thing. We could watch some of the- we could watch some of those and she'll be all right, but...

Jerk (:

Right.

Jerk (:

My dad was always kind of into some of the stuff. Like we would watch like some of the like, like X-Files or like Star Trek. I mean, it's not the same like Star Trek, like sci-fi and like spooky and paranormal stuff together. So.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I remember the time like my dad and I shared that we both like True Blood and they're watching True Blood together and then I get like a sex scene started and I was just like, oh shit. And I was like watching it though. It's just like, oh no, don't suck his dick. Don't suck it. Oh no, they suck it. I'm just like, look at this carpet. It is so interesting. I do not know what is happening on this television father.

Jerk (:

Oh no.

Jerk (:

I of course I would never watch this show. I don't know what's happening. Do not ask for an explanation. Just don't ask for an explanation. Oh.

Bitch (:

So what are they doing? What are they? Huh? I've never seen that before.

Bitch (:

Anyways, all right, so we're going to talk about this dumb show. All right, so we are talking about season eight, episode three, heartache. And I have heartache about this episode or parts of it. Well, I mean, when there is. How do I put this? Cultural liberates.

Jerk (:

Yeah, we'll talk about our show. There we go.

Jerk (:

Uh oh.

Bitch (:

though the cultural, uh, because it's, I don't want to say it's appropriation. It's along the lines of like, you know, they took some stuff and they took some stereotypes and they kind of blew them up. And so there, there have been complaints from indigenous communities who like watch this show, like who were just like, Hey, like, I don't really appreciate it. Like how we're being portrayed in it. And I could see that right. Because by, and like, as we will get into this, you know, just, you know,

Jerk (:

Hmm.

Jerk (:

Bye.

Bitch (:

Mayans aren't dead. Like Mayans still exist. And so, yeah. So as I like, there are things about this, but this was, did first air October 17th, 2012 and was directed by Sir, I don't know, he's not a knight, Jensen Ackles. I mean, he's not a knight yet. We don't know. Maybe someday Jensen may be knighted if that's still a thing. The monarchy still exists and people still knight things. I don't.

Jerk (:

Yeah. No, I thought that was real fucking weird. We'll get to that. I thought that was real bizarre.

Jerk (:

Yeah, someday.

Bitch (:

Who knows? Who knows what the next generation of British monarchy will, or maybe United States will be able to night people. Who knows? You never know. The way, you know, when our lizard people win the election in 2024, they start night hoods again. But it means something completely different.

Jerk (:

I think they do.

Jerk (:

What you never know.

Jerk (:

Maybe they start nighting people.

Bitch (:

This was written by the couple that we do like, Brad Butler and Eugene Ross, Eugenie Ross-Leming. So let's just, let's just start with one exercise. So like someone's just running in, like my knees just hurt. My tits hurt. My knees hurt. Like just watching that, like to, to on the concrete. Oh, yeah.

Jerk (:

Thanks for watching!

Jerk (:

Ugh.

Jerk (:

It's not good. It hurts everything. And it's like and it's like nighttime in Minneapolis. And you have to like, I don't know. He's like all wearing like.

Bitch (:

Also, we learned later, this dude is on, he doesn't live there. He's on a work trip, so he chose to go running outside of his house, and I know coworkers who've done that who do that when I've been on business trips with them. I'm like, the fuck is wrong with you? I get going to the gym in the morning, but I'm just gonna, I guess the only place I thought it made sense was my boss when we were at Disney. Because yeah, you can go run around that property.

Jerk (:

Right. To go.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

I have seen people do it. Yeah.

Bitch (:

That makes sense, but...

Jerk (:

Yeah, but like you don't know the area. You don't have like, he was out there. I don't know. Yeah, oh, totally different. Hell no. Well, there was nobody else. This is obviously a weird time or a secluded area. It's a terrible idea. It's not safe, not safe. What if you just fell and broke your leg? You couldn't even get up and get out of there. That's the type of shit I think about because like I would fall.

Bitch (:

Maybe it's just cause I'm a chick? Like as a chick, like I'm just like, I'm not gonna go running around a strange neighborhood. That seems like a...

Bitch (:

What if there was a coyote or an owl? Oh, that was the other thing. There is a giant owl in my neighborhood and now I'm terrified for all my neighborhood cats. It flew over my head and also if you guys don't know, go watch any of the true crime stories about the writer whose wife died and they all think that she was killed by an owl.

So an owl like fly over my head that was much like that. It was like, oh no, it's gonna like stab me in my head. But it had like a snake or like something in its mouth. And then it went and ate it in the tree. And then I was standing like on my driveway, staring up at like, watching this owl like eat the things was like kind of in the trees and the neighbors came home. And like, as I'm standing, I wasn't in their yard, it was in my yard, but I'm just standing there staring over the trees and they're like, and they're like, the fuck is wrong with our neighbor?

Jerk (:

But still, staring at their tree. Are you okay?

Ask if you're okay.

Bitch (:

And then I was like, you've got an owl. And they were like, oh. And then we all sat there and stared at the trees and I wish someone else had driven by and someone else had it. But I had, yeah. Yeah, so, but I haven't seen, I've been checking, well it's also been pouring. But now I'm afraid, every time I see a cat walk down the street, I'm just afraid I'm gonna see that owl just like. And then who do you choose, the cat or the owl? I mean, I choose the cat, but that's a tough call.

Jerk (:

What's she'll join the party, get some weird like gathering of the owl.

Jerk (:

Aww, swoop it out.

Jerk (:

That's tough.

Bitch (:

Anyway, sorry, sidetrack, so dude running in park, not getting eaten by an owl.

Jerk (:

Ha ha ha!

Jerk (:

Not getting any by now. And but he's like kind of he's like jogging like a nice, like normal slow jog, consistent jog pace. Yes, with headphones in, which is also dangerous, by the way, when you're in an unfamiliar area, but that's the thing. And some guy that's like. Like kind of sprints past him, and they make a point of this on the show. So I will address that he is.

Bitch (:

A normal, a normal jogging pace. Yeah.

Jerk (:

not a stereotypical runner physique.

Bitch (:

No, the fat people run.

Jerk (:

So the jogger like comes around a corner after this guy passed them and this runner dude is stopped on the path in front of him. And it's real awkward when I would have been like, whoa, I used to stop and shake this guy's hand. You fucking keep going, brah. But no, jogger stops just to like, hi, you're doing, you're fast. And the runner grabs his arm and then rips his heart out.

Bitch (:

Mm-hmm. No, no.

Bitch (:

Well, at first he says he does a lot of cardio. And so now we know that cardio is slang for taking people's hearts. So anytime somebody says, I do cardio, they mean they're gonna go rip out someone's heart and you shouldn't trust that person. Also exercise kills. That is the entire theme of this episode and now you can stop watching it.

Jerk (:

Well...

Jerk (:

Oh, no, it's not. I did I did cardio this morning.

Bitch (:

No, that's not the theme. Okay. Now actually, no, the theme is sports is dumb. That is the theme.

I'm not, technically I'm not allowed to do cardio for five more weeks. No, wait, shit, no, I'm allowed, I was allowed to do cardio after a week. No, I haven't been, it hasn't been a week yet. So I'm not allowed to do cardio yet.

Jerk (:

I figured.

Jerk (:

Not yet. Yeah. So we cut to Sam and Dean at a farmer's market where Sam is just eating an apple and Dean is reading the news while they walk. And he's basically like, Hey, there's these cases in Minneapolis of guys getting their hearts ripped out. And Sam's like, literally, I guess. And he's like the only way that interests me. That was really funny, actually. Cleverly written line. But

Basically, he's like, this is the case. I'm stoked. Maybe it's heart sucking, possessed satanic crack whores.

Bitch (:

And the correct line is, he's like, it's either ritual or some sort of a heart sucking possess satanic crack whore bat. Because I have hashtag goals after that one. Because that is my next, you know, I'm trying to figure out, do I want to keep, you know, stay in my career field, becoming a heart sucking, possess, crack, satanic crack whore bat seems like a pretty, what are the qualifications?

Jerk (:

But yeah.

Jerk (:

I'm in.

Jerk (:

Is there, does it come with health insurance?

Bitch (:

Yeah, do I have to get a third or fourth degree anyways? All right, so Sam's hair is even stupider than usual. And then they got, I did, I've actually got a really good picture of it I'll send to Diana to post of, I think I may just start doing this every episode of just me hating on Sam's hair.

Jerk (:

It's real shaggy.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Well, I mean, Sam's hair gauge is a thing. And he seems like when should we just focus on finding Kevin in the tablet? And Dean's like, hmm, we've tried, but we needed to go. Let's go solve a case in the meantime. And then he realizes that he's at a farmer's market.

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

Sure.

Bitch (:

And he's like, what? And occasionally I have woken up at a farmer's market and been like, what the fuck am I doing here?

Jerk (:

Just funny.

Jerk (:

Oh, well, so we've got them in suits at the police department, looking at the case file. They're like, hey, this guy has no connections. He's there for work and he was not robbed. So this is real weird. And the our detective Pike is like, hey, we did find this runner, Paul Hayes, brought me for questioning, but he's clear because he has a clean record. And we can't believe that this like

overweight guy would have been able to overpower the super fit dude. So sorry. And he's real snarky with Dean.

Bitch (:

Yeah, the whole like he's got a very weird attitude and Sam's like, why do you have this love hate tension? Like do you want to fuck? I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm also not sure why there's cctv in this park I'm glad there is but like that makes me feel better But although eff did just put out a thing where you um, they've got trackers of all the you know

Jerk (:

Very weird.

Bitch (:

cameras outside that cops and stuff are using. So you can go look to see like if you're being surveilled, go check that out at EFF. Anyway, so this park though, like has a CCTV. And so they're like, all right, we're gonna go find Paul.

Jerk (:

Really.

Jerk (:

That's how it is.

Jerk (:

Yeah, so they go see Paul at his house and Dean's like off, you know, searching this guy's house while he pretends to pee like he always does, while Sam is talking to him. And Paul is very intent on making a smoothie. It's a lot. It looks real gross.

Bitch (:

a lot. And the whole place is a lot, right? Like, this is just a one bedroom, it's like a one bedroom apartment stuffed with like a dick sporting goods.

Jerk (:

And Sam was asking him questions about this jogger and he's like, Oh, I just never saw him again after I passed him. Well, and he's like, you know, well, you seem to have a lot of healthy habits as he's like trying to like choke down and not gag on this smoothie he just made. And he's like, I had a health scare last year.

Bitch (:

Put the spinach in it, you can't even taste it. Fuck you, of course you can taste the goddamn spinach in this, it's a cream smoothie, you just whip up the kale in it, you'll never even taste it, fuck you. And also.

Jerk (:

How did, you can taste the spinach. Okay.

Jerk (:

I like spinach. I like kale. I don't want them in a smoothie.

Bitch (:

I don't. I don't want to fuck you. You can taste it. It tastes like you're drinking grass. But also I figured out that Paul like started crossfit. That is his problem. Like that is why he can't stop talking about his shakes or his things like a year ago, Paul found crossfit.

Jerk (:

That's what it is. You solved it. Oh my gosh. He's fucking juicing. I wonder if he's vegan now. He can add that to the list of things to talk about in addition to CrossFit.

Bitch (:

talk about it sensibly.

Jerk (:

But there's a funny line here. Dean asked, he's like, Oh, so your body's a temple. And Paul's like, one, I worship every day.

And everybody's uncomfortable with that. So we go.

Bitch (:

Yep, nobody wants to hate, nobody gives a fuck about your diet, Susan. All right. So we got to a cafe. Well, at first I thought it was a bar, but then I saw like a pie on the window and then I saw a cafe. So I switched out bar to cafe.

Jerk (:

The bar!

Jerk (:

But it's like a pub, bar, restaurant thing.

Bitch (:

Yeah, it looked like a place I wanted to eat dinner. I was like, I would like to eat lunch here.

Jerk (:

Yeah, so basically they're like, no, they didn't find anything at Paul's. But in the meantime, Dean found another case. So in Ames, which is near Des Moines, Iowa, this other this cop got arrested for murdering a pizza guy by ripping his heart out. But it happened while Paul was in jail being questioned. So it couldn't have been Paul. So that's sketchy as fuck. So now they got to go to Ames.

and they find out that this 20 year veteran of the police force, like it's known to be an upstanding guy or whatever, ordered a pizza. Arthur is his name. Ordered a pizza and then they, the delivery driver didn't show up to his next stop. Wouldn't that suck to be that guy's next stop. And then he was, no, never.

Bitch (:

Like he never got his pizza, man. Like you just sit in there being like, what the fuck Domino's and.

Jerk (:

And then you feel bad, because then the problem is, then you're pissed and you call the pizza place, you're like, what the fuck, where's my fucking, and you're all mad. And then this poor motherfucker's dead. And like, nobody knows, like, that's a shitty position to be in. We're not as shitty as the dead guy, but still, it's a shitty position.

Bitch (:

Where's my piece of- and then he like, oh, he dead? That is, that is a shitty position to be in.

Not you know, the pizza guy may have had it worse, but also I don't know, like you still didn't get a pizza, but something else too, just while they were like in the barn, it was kind of this recurring theme that's been happening through this episode though is Dean is also just poking at Sam missing shit, right? Like while like, oh, you didn't, you didn't hunt and so you didn't see this, right? So this theme is starting to come back through this episode.

Jerk (:

Well, and then it started, I think, in the like you're pointing out, it kind of a thread of it was when they were at the farmer's market. And Sam's like, well, I don't really want to do a case which just focus on the Kevin thing. Like he doesn't really want to distract. He does not seem particularly interested in cases at all. He wants to solve the Kevin thing because he knows they're obligated to solve the Kevin thing. And that's his thing. And you'll and that's definitely a theme through this.

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

And then obviously Dean poking at him for having not hunted for the year is like tied into that. And Sam keeps saying like, well, I had a good life for a year. Oh, so.

Um, so they're like, they're like, all right, we're gonna go talk to Arthur this cop and they're like, good luck. Because Arthur is fidgeting with his hands rocking back and forth and whisper repeating a chant over and over again.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I don't think he's going to be very helpful. No.

Jerk (:

Not, not well, not well. But they notice his eyes are two different colors and he gets a little agitated. Dean throws Holly Holy water on him, but just nothing works. So they give up. And then they that night at the police department where Arthur's cell is located, we get a scene of Arthur breaking a piece of metal off of his bed.

And we hear see him lift this piece of metal to his face. And then there's a stabbing noise and a yell.

Bitch (:

So, and we'll get to what he did. Although like, obviously I think most of you probably knows you saw the episode. I don't know if you watched the episode before you've listened to this. I don't know what you do, but anyways, you do you. But maybe you just listen to this. You can listen to this instead of watching the episode. It's great. All right. So we're going to go to the hotel and Dean has gotten Google translate on his phone.

Jerk (:

I assume they do. Well, we know they should, yeah. You should, you're doing it wrong. I'm just kidding, you do however you want. If you're listening, you're fine.

You're good.

Jerk (:

And he's very proud of himself. And Sam's actually pretty impressed that Dean has an app. So good at all. And it says language unknown when they try to play the words that Arthur was saying. But Sam's phone rings and they get a call and it's the police and he answers it as agent Sam Bora. But basically they need to get back down there or get to the hospital.

Bitch (:

Yeah, just an app at all.

Jerk (:

because Arthur is unconscious with a badge over one eye and strapped to a hospital bed. And yeah.

Bitch (:

because what he did was he took out his own eye and apparently that actually was a scene but it was too violent for the censors and got cut.

Jerk (:

Oh, interesting. So in the dark. I mean, a lot. I feel a lot of uncomfortable to watch. It is.

Bitch (:

because I can imagine that being a little too gross.

Bitch (:

I stuff is just always gross. It's grosser than like, I don't know why, like if I dig out an eye, this gross than me digging out my own heart, you know? Like this is just easier to watch. Yeah.

Jerk (:

It's so weird. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard. Yeah, like ripping the hearts out like, Oh, that's gross. But OK, I do that. Like him cutting his eye out like, that's hard. But the doctor is telling Dean like, yeah, like he was very thorough. They like he severed the optic nerve and removed the eye using a piece of bed frame. But he really doesn't look strong enough to have pulled that piece off of the bed. Just interesting.

Bitch (:

Hmm? Too much?

Jerk (:

And they ask about his different colored eyes and he had an eye transplant. And that's when Diana starts drawing exclamation points because you know it's gonna have something to do with transplanted organs.

Hmm. So he cut out the transplanted eye and Dean's like, all right, he's going to get this doctor to help him trace these organs, which I don't know if they're allowed to do that, but I guess she thought she was because they're pretending to be law enforcement. I don't know.

I don't know the rules on that.

Bitch (:

Hmm. I mean, what was general HIPAA violation? But yeah, I'm pretty sure that information is not just but you can search I'm pretty sure you can search the organ transplant database and probably find that if you're a doctor.

Jerk (:

I guess if you're a doctor, you'd have to have some of them, but I guess it's just all questionable.

Bitch (:

I don't know, like, I don't, like, I'm like, whatever, you can get whatever information you want if you try hard enough. Anyways, so.

Jerk (:

Well, I mean, that's true.

Back to the motel. Sam is researching and he figures out that Paul also had a transplant. So that's interesting update, which we already, if you, you know, be intuitive, you piece together. That was probably the case. And he decided to email the audio of Arthur to Dr. Morris and Professor Morrison that we had met in previous season. So yes, so he can help them translate it.

Bitch (:

AKA the mayor.

Jerk (:

And Dean's like, great. Well, we've got a pattern and the next attack should be in Boulder. So we got to go.

Bitch (:

And that is an 11 hour drive from Ames, Iowa. So yeah, you should get on the road. Ames was only about a four hour drive from Minneapolis. So that wasn't as bad, but 11 hours, man, like that's a long time to be in the car with each other.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's not short. It's a long drive.

Jerk (:

Minneapolis. Yeah.

Jerk (:

It is. So we cut to a scene before they arrive and we're at the Bunny Hole, a strip club in Boulder.

Bitch (:

which has a lighted sign that says rear entry. And this was actually a real strip club called the Paramount Gentleman's Club in British Columbia. Cause it was in a set you can make. This is the one. We've got to go use the real one. Shocking how that worked out.

Jerk (:

Oh? Okay.

Jerk (:

Of course, yeah convenient So we got like one of the this is a weird scenario like the way the scene plays out where it's like a Patron fan, I don't know you want to call him dude in the alley waiting for Randa the dancer to come out and he's like I loved your performance. I never do this like why are you in the alley?

Bitch (:

Yeah. Okay. Well, the thing is though is me because if you've ever left a, a strip club at the end of the night, there are always dudes waiting outside for the dancers. And sometimes there are reasons for them to be waiting for those dancers. Um, I can only assume this car, this place in Boulder doesn't have a parking lot. And so like, this is like where he was waiting to try and like pick up the, pick her up as she was going out.

Jerk (:

But she seemed to expect him. Like she was going to meet him, it looked like. I don't know, it was very odd. And I'm like...

Bitch (:

I think she just was going outside to see like what or maybe like they had a dance inside and then she was like, like that was something that was implied right like let's go to the champagne room outside.

Jerk (:

pain.

I guess. I don't know. I thought that's what the champagne is going to say. I was like, why are they in the champagne room if they're doing this? But probably. I guess.

Bitch (:

maybe this club just didn't have one and instead, or maybe like there was, you know, that wasn't allowed in that club and she had to go in the alley. I don't know.

Jerk (:

Maybe it was totally nude that we learned from other signs. So you never know. But they go further into the alley. I know. Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. I've never been to a strip club. They go further in the alley. She pushes them against the wall, feels him up and rips out his heart.

Bitch (:

So that means it was BYOB. Anyways.

Bitch (:

He thinks he's getting lucky, but instead he's getting cardio.

Jerk (:

Well, like you said, on their 11 hour drive, Sam and Dean are still driving. And Dean's in such a good mood about this case. And Sam is not. He is zoned out and Dean is not reading the room on this. He is just still trying to like, he just thinks like Sam's going to shake it off. I got, I don't know what Dean is thinking here, but

Dean, they basically like, Dean's all like, I'm happy. And like, I just got a new perspective after that year in purgatory. And I think we both have a new perspective and they do, but it's both very different perspectives.

Bitch (:

But, and you know, on top of this, I don't think it's a new perspective for Sam. This has been Sam's MO since season one. He just remembered what he loved. I think he, I really think he's just kind of like went back to like, oh, remember when I went to get to Stanford?

Jerk (:

Well, yeah, but he seemed to... That's true.

Jerk (:

Yeah, remember I wanted a normal life and now I wait I can have it again.

Bitch (:

Anyways, yeah.

Yeah, so, I don't know.

Jerk (:

But doesn't that make this real shitty that like he can't have a normal life of deans around? Oh, that's how he feels, at least, obviously.

Bitch (:

Yeah, we'll keep ripping this apart, but we're gonna go back to Dr. Kashi.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Huh.

Bitch (:

who's calling Dean and telling him about who the donor was.

Jerk (:

Yes. And it ends and he's like, he's like, ends up there's a bunch of them and they're on the way to Boulder still. But they all they well, the Paul's kidney and Arthur's eye came from Brick Holmes, who is all pro court, all poor, all pro star quarterback who died in a car crash last year after a long football career.

And there's eight organs total, so they only know about two. That's not ideal. Not ideal.

Bitch (:

No, it's not. So we're going to go on to Boulder because Rick lived outside of Boulder.

Jerk (:

Yeah, and that's the only lead they've got right this second. And we do cut to a scene with Randa, our stripper from the previous scene, with really good makeup and a really cool ring, doing a ritual, and then she fucks up her makeup by rubbing blood all over her face.

Bitch (:

That is her new beauty routine.

Jerk (:

Hmm. Anyways, but it's the same chant Arthur was doing. So that's interesting. And this takes a bite out of a heart.

Bitch (:

Yep, she's also trying a new diet. She's thinking she wants to get some more iron and protein in her life, and that makes her eyes glow red.

Jerk (:

Yes, glowy red eyes and chest and weird background effects. So they get to Sam and Dean get to Bricks house and they are meeting with his mother, Eleanor.

Bitch (:

It's a brick house.

Jerk (:

I didn't even think of that. That's hilarious. So Sam's trying to like ask about him being an organ donor. And she's like, why does the FBI care? I'm like, that's a good point. He is. Sam's total fanboy about Brickhomes. We've learned we learned that pretty early. And like Dean's like, like impressive, but not like fanboy like Sam is. So.

Bitch (:

And he's also fanboying too.

Jerk (:

And she's like, look, there was a campaign a few years ago and lots of star athletes signed up to be organ donors. So whatever. And she's trying to, Dean, they're trying to ask her about the accident and she's kind of deflects. And then. Yeah, she's a star deflector. That's all I'm going to say. And. Yeah, so mom's done pretty much just, you know, excuses herself to go to an event.

Bitch (:

Yeah, she's just like pew, I don't know, I'm sorry, take that question!

Jerk (:

And tells them they got to go. So as they leave, we've got Randa on the staircase to talk to mom. And she acts surprised that Randa's there. But Randa's like, no, the house she calls the house, the mothership. That was interesting. And she says that Eleanor needs to be careful what she says because she has Bricks heart and she can feel him. And it's why she moved to Boulder and.

Uh, yeah. And they have to keep the secret safe. Now, now it's real weird to say like that's where I'm like, what the fuck is happening? So.

Bitch (:

Dun dun dun.

Bitch (:

Yeah, yeah, this is weird. A lot of levels.

Jerk (:

It is. So back at the motel, Professor Morrison calls Sam and Sam lies to him about getting him added as a technical advisor to the FBI.

Bitch (:

Because it says it does come with a medical plan and I'd be fuck yeah, but like that's a government medical plan. You don't really want it.

Jerk (:

Yeah, but he does have a translation. It's a dead language. Mayan.

And it's the divine God, cacao is born is what it's saying.

Bitch (:

Yeah, according to the mayor. And so Sam, the mayor tells him that Kakao was the most powerful god because maize was the most important things in the Mayans, that and torturing and killing everyone in sight. So we're just gonna put a pin in that and we'll talk about it later. But Dean also wants to know is what they're looking for, a thousand-year-old cultures, god of corn, which is amazing.

Jerk (:

But that.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Amazing.

Jerk (:

I appreciate that. Thank you for that one. And they're like, well, Phoenix is up next. The guy's already missing. So Dean's like, yeah, what's... And in the meantime, by the way, Dean's like, I got an email from... about asking about your inquiry for university admissions. Which is so weird. Why is Dean getting that email? But okay, do they share an email inbox?

Bitch (:

So one, why is Dean emailing, he says that he emailed the cops in Phoenix about another O-Donor.

Jerk (:

What do you say? Like, by the way, this guy's missing. He might rip someone's heart out. Like.

Bitch (:

Oh, I guess it like you can do like, but like, what is the email that Sam and Dean are sharing that works for going to a cop and then to whatever college the day I'm trying to get into? One, don't share don't share accounts. It's a bad practice to begin with, but also like, is it fake FBI email.gov that goes to and what is your email, right? Or are you just emailing the police from like Gmail?

Jerk (:

That's a good point. Like how many, you should not be using the same inbox for these things.

Jerk (:

I mean...

Bitch (:

This is from a Geocities account. Have you seen this guy?

Jerk (:

He might rip someone's heart out. Yeah, I noticed the email thing I was like, wait a minute, but that's a good point. And basically Dean's like totally just kind of in disbelief. Like he's not, he is in such denial that Sam is actually thinking about quitting.

Bitch (:

Anyways, yeah, so.

Jerk (:

He just doesn't believe it.

Bitch (:

when again you took him out of Stanford. That was a whole storyline because he's the one. He was in the university. He was one college like why wouldn't you want to finish your college credits? He's probably having that dream that I have like every six months where I miss the class I don't get to graduate from college like but he really gets to have it because he didn't actually graduate from college because he missed one class. So anyways, Sam's just looking for options. Dean doesn't understand things but he also thinks that Eleanor is hiding.

Jerk (:

Oh, I know. I'm just saying it's just...

Jerk (:

Yeah, so they're going to go break into the Holmes house because they know she's at the an event. Because you know, no big deal. I'm just going to break in. I break a person's house that has no alarm or motion lights or any other kind of security.

Bitch (:

Also, Randa Ronda. I just I want to call her Ronda because I want to sing Help Me Ronda throughout this. So and her name was spelled R-I-A-N-D-A in the transcript. So anyways, but she's also not there. She's gone like lucky. They don't know she's there, but like nobody is there in this giant house. Anyways.

Jerk (:

But they didn't know. Yeah, they don't know that she was there, but still, that's good.

So they go straight to Brick's bedroom and start searching his closet because that's what they decide to do. And I mean, I guess, but Dean's all impressed because he finds peroxide to bleach his hair. And I'm like, they make, nobody uses that anymore. Yeah. But yeah.

Bitch (:

Well, that's the first place I would go.

Bitch (:

That's not how things work. That's not how, yeah, that's not how, okay.

Jerk (:

But Sam notices that the second closet in the bedroom is all full of women's clothes, including the outfit that Eleanor was wearing earlier that day. And they are pondering why on earth his mother would be having a closet in the master bedroom with her son.

Bitch (:

Yes, it is a very strange thing to be pondering.

Jerk (:

Mm hmm. And while they're pondering that, they do discover a secret door in the closet, which is always fun because everybody wants a secret door in their closet. And it's full of sports memorabilia, but not just football. It has baseball, boxing, race car driving, jousting, cricket, archery, swords and golf and.

Bitch (:

Damn straight.

Bitch (:

Yes, although Sam does call it a cricket mallet, but it's a cricket bat.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's a bat. No, you're right. But Sam's just like such a fanboy that he's just like, well, he just proved bricks just love sports and athletes and he just loves it all. And Dean's like, this is weird. And he finds a box of letters and they are a variety of letters over time. All of them are written to Betsy and say, love me. And they're all about like very like prominent athletic moments. And, uh, yeah.

So it's, it's a weird, weird situation. Back at the motel Sam has pulled up four of the athletes mentioned photos and, uh, going back 70 years and they all appeared to be the same guy, just with changes to hair and hair color and things like that.

Bitch (:

Yeah, wooly-willy. This is what this looks like. Cause they go through like the different things of like his hair and like his pictures until the end where he's just like bald with a mustache and like a really extensive and like it's the handlebar mustache and he's bald. That I don't know if you're too young to know what wooly-willy is, go look that up. And I don't know, maybe you shouldn't Google wooly-willy that may get you someplace.

Jerk (:

Oh my god. That's hilarious.

Yeah.

Jerk (:

I liked it. I'm concerned about that but it was a magnetic toy if that helps. Is that better or worse?

Bitch (:

I don't know. I don't know. So Dean. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll break in. We're going to break into Laura in a minute, but I'm going to let you set it up.

Jerk (:

Deans like, well, the Mayans were really into sports and the athletes would make suffer sacrifices to cacao by killing and cutting out the heart or eating it of people.

Bitch (:

Yeah, so we're gonna go to lore because this is now where we've just had enough.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

Okay, so Dean says here and I'm just gonna repeat the quote. The Maya were all about war and torture and conquest and sports. It says their athletes were treated like kings. The Mayan jocks made sacrifices to a cow but ready for this killing a victim, pulling out his heart and eating it. They believe the rituals gave them supercharged power over their opponents. Okay.

None of that is real. But we'll see a bit. All right, we're going to start we're going to back up, we're going to back this trade up a little bit to go like this is kind of the first problem, right? And that is what Arthur was repeating over and over again, which eventually helped me Rhonda was using as during her beauty routine, right? And that is this phrase in Mayim. And according to super Gangnam style Tumblr, legit, it was hilarious. I love that name. That was so good.

to:

Jerk (:

No, not a dead language. Yeah, there we've met some.

Bitch (:

Yes, I have met many, I was saying met many Mayans, but I've met a few Mayans. But what we can basically take from what they were trying to say in that phrase, I'm not going to say it because I can't speak English much less Mayan, but the phrase basically referred to the ruler of a city-state, right?

Jerk (:

Have you my answer?

Bitch (:

And Kakao is the origin of the word Kakao. And the last word is the classic Mayan form of the verb to be born. So in the show, they're saying the divine god Kakao is born. It's not really what it translates to. Also, there wasn't a Mayan god named Kakao. There were at least 150 to 250 Mayan gods, but none of them were named Kakao that I can find. There were about, there's a lot of gods.

Jerk (:

Right.

Okay.

Jerk (:

That was a lot of gods.

Bitch (:

Well, also, you know, during some of the research I was looking at, there was, depending on where you lived, like you would also kind of have this level of who you were worshiping and praying to, you could be broken down to like, you have like your bigger gods and then you would, that would be broken down to like your city state gods, like your patron gods who wanted to be kind of closer to you. And then beyond that, then you would have your ancestors, right? So

Jerk (:

Okay.

Jerk (:

Got it.

Bitch (:

There's kind of this whole pantheon of levels of different people throughout the universe who are there to help you spiritually. It was. Yeah, so just kind of going through the whole things. And there were maze deities, but there are also about 13 gods that were associated with the creation of humans from maze, according to the creation story and the book, Purple Bull. And there is also, oh man, like I listen to somebody say this a bunch of times and I'm still gonna say it wrong. So.

Jerk (:

hyperlocal gods.

Bitch (:

Hon Honapu Honapu. No, no, whatever. There is a maze deity. I type this shit out if you want to read it. But, um, there is a maze deity that you could have been who they were referring to. There was also the god eats mana that taught the Mayans how to cultivate cacao and maze. And maybe that was him. There was also a show who was the patron protector of cacao and cocoa products, but there wasn't a god named cacao. And there also wasn't like

Jerk (:

Right.

Bitch (:

Okay, Cal, go.

Jerk (:

Question. So the origin of the word cacao, like as in cocoa, is from this, they think, or do we know? Okay. So that's that. But that doesn't have anything to do with corn. That's why it's confusing.

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

Yes.

And it was used as like, no, it's nothing. That's why they made it doubly confusing because cacao was a very important part of the Mayan culture. It was used as currency and also chocolate, everyone. So like, yeah, but you know, when you go to these parts of Mexico, they'll be like, come taste our chocolate. You know, like it's a thing, but not maize.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Yum!

Jerk (:

Right. Yes. I mean, like corn. I had I had a lot of days this weekend. I'm just kidding. I did. But but it's not the same. No, got it.

Bitch (:

That's corn. When did I eat corn?

Okay. All right. So yeah, so there is that. And then there's also kind of, you know, sacrifice within the man culture wasn't always a bad thing. As when you were sacrificed, those who were sacrificed were thought to go to one of the heavens and not the underworld Shababah. And people also started sacrificing parts of themselves like bloodletting was unusual, including the cutting of penises, quoting from historical Mexico.

The kings or rulers in the Mayan world were expected to perform pineal blood lighting in which they either used obsidian or stingray spines. The blood-lead ritual consists of an individual either bleeding into a bowl, using paper to catch the blood, or pulling a piece of rope or straw through their wound and then burning the lead with cobalt incense as an offering to the gods. The blood-lead ritual was used as a way to communicate with the gods and the ancestors.

I just wanted to talk about that because it's been too long since I talked about dick magic. Also blood bull. Blood bull phlegm with penises. But also there's another way you get, there's dick magic blood bull phlegm. Buy that for sale on our new SBN QVC, whatever we're calling it. All right. So sacrifices of entire people were done through many methods, including, but not limited to the heart extraction we saw in this episode. But also.

Jerk (:

Dick Magic Blood Bowl Phone, yes.

Jerk (:

One of those.

Bitch (:

Spearing drowning being mauled by a Jaguar disemboweling being thrown onto a pile of rocks from great high or just getting pushed down those massive fucking stairs which you they love stairs so much and One of the things I saw while I was watching a ton of my in stuff this weekend was that part of that was Like if you just couldn't like if you your enemies had to go upstairs like this is fucked up

Jerk (:

They do like stairs.

Bitch (:

like you want to get to me like you like by the time you get up there you're like or if you were like somebody who was coming to visit like you just can't be like cool by the time you get to the top of stairs like no matter who you are you're like you motherfucker um so but most common was likely decapitation and also heads may have served as portals to the underworld so another blood bulb that just made out of a head so you can just look up the top

And as to whether or not players were killed during ball games, I think anybody who has seen anything about mind culture or Aztecs or in general, you know, that region in general is sort of, you know, knows about the ball games that were played and how important they were. But we've also heard that, right, that

ball players were sacrificed as part of this game. And it is most likely that neither the winners nor losers were sacrificed during the ball games because one that's just not an effective way to have a sport.

because you're killing all your best players all the time. Like, yeah, like nobody wants to watch the B team, right? Like once you just kill off the A, you're like, oh, all right. Like, but there is the exception that I can't, sometimes games would take place instead of going to war against the city. And in this case teams from both cities would play each other and the leader of the losing team may be killed.

Jerk (:

Yeah, that's true. It's so hard to get people to want to play if they're gonna die.

Jerk (:

Oh.

Bitch (:

Although often they were allowed to live as long as the losing city would supply the winners with a quantity of jade, obsidian, or other special goods. Which, corn, yes. We have this maze and this cacao. Would you like this instead of killing us, right? There also are extremely deep ties to the Mayan religion and the ball game. So the game did offer an opportunity to show your devoutness to the gods.

Jerk (:

and corn.

Bitch (:

Sacrificing captured kings and high lords or the losing opponents of a game could be seen as a very important offering that you would make. So, yes, sometimes that would be associated with the game, but not in the way that they would think and the way that also that they make it sound in this episode. Right. And that's part of, you know, yes, the Mayans, it was a violent culture, but not all the time.

Jerk (:

Right.

Bitch (:

And a lot of that is just because that is what we know based on what was told through pop culture or, you know, the conquerors. And you know, also the conquerors burned a whole bunch of shit when they did that. So there's a lot of parts of the history that we don't know. Although, you know, they do have one of the most advanced written languages, like of all civilizations. So we actually do get to know more than we thought once that got cracked, which is all a whole, a whole other interesting story and go watch there's natural geographic.

is supposed to end I think in:

Jerk (:

Didn't they have like a big calendar that everybody like was really excited about for a long time.

Jerk (:

Yeah, I think that's true.

Jerk (:

theories behind them.

Bitch (:

I watched a whole bunch of it. I don't know. You can watch it, but like, uh, yeah, no, there is a whole thing in there about the might. Yeah. So it's really interesting when you look at the way that language is made up, like how, like, I'm good. I don't get digressed too much. I go watch, go, go like, go Google this shit and watch it yourself. But it's very interesting. And the, you know, whether or not the world is supposed to end when the Mayan calendar and it's also, you know, that's

Jerk (:

Yeah, no, I know. I just thought it was interesting that there's that's a advanced component of their society.

Bitch (:

probably misinterpretation, but you know, or it could just mean we're in the really shitty time after we're... Oh.

Jerk (:

All at Atala. No, don't say that. So yeah.

Bitch (:

Everything good happened after 2012.

Bitch (:

Anyhow, let's go back to talking. You do.

Jerk (:

Mayan god tattoo. I do. I went, we went to go see, I didn't get it there. I got it later on. But, um, when baby and I got married in Tulum, we went to the ruins and they are mostly in, uh, reverence to the descending god is what they call him. I will not try to pronounce his Mayan pronunciation of the name.

Bitch (:

Awesome. Yeah, again, we're just like, we're not renouncing that now.

Jerk (:

No. And so we both got those to memorialize our trip and our wedding trip. I did. It was raining too. It was not a great walking downstairs day, but it was pretty. And you did. I just, I was the part of the reason I picked Tulum was I wanted to see fucking ruins on the beach. And I did. So there we go. I got to see it. There. Yeah. So many iguanas.

Bitch (:

Yeah, they went and climbed stairs in the middle of the summer and I went and swam in a snow day.

Bitch (:

I chose my path and I chose it well.

Bitch (:

Bye now.

Bitch (:

You got to see them. And they're fucking stairs.

Jerk (:

All right.

Bitch (:

Yeah, that was just like, what is it? What are the Mayan symbols that I learned this weekend was the birth was like, the birth of a king was represented by like this upside down iguana. Yeah, iguanas are part of the language. It's just a very artistic language to the which is really cool. Like, there's a lot of different ways you can spell words.

Jerk (:

Oh, that's cool.

Bitch (:

And also like vocally, like the current language is a total language, which is also why I can't do it because I'm not good at tones. Like how do you speak it if you're tone deaf? Anyways, okay, god damn it. All right, we're gonna run us over again. All right, so let's see. My next note says, Dean thinks that brick was a very old Mayan.

Jerk (:

Mmm.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm.

Jerk (:

Ah.

Bitch (:

And Sam thinks the spell went along with his parts, but at least he wasn't a mother.

Jerk (:

He was not a motherfucker. But he is a little bit bummed about the whole thing because they find a picture of the old fast, old timey version of Brick with a woman captioned as his wife Betsy. And that is Eleanor when she was young. So they're like, all right, we're going to back to Bricks is daytime. We're not put on the suits. We're going as us. It's fine.

And they answered that Eleanor answers the door and they call her Betsy straight up. Like, you need to talk. People are fucking dying. And she's like, I didn't know about the murders. I thought it'd be over when Brick died. And anyway, so she ends up telling the whole fucking story. She spills the beans. Hmm. The cacao beans. And his Mayan name was Inyo and he was an athlete a thousand years ago. Everybody lived for sports. They made a bargain with the God.

Bitch (:

Lick of cow beans.

Jerk (:

And to stay young, he just had to make a sacrifice twice a year, one for planting, one for harvest. And he would stay young and get to keep playing sports.

Bitch (:

You get to be a jock forever.

Jerk (:

And she didn't really realize what was, she was in denial. She kind of figured it out when she started to age and he was not aging. And then, you know, she's like, but after over time they were so deeply in love that she just ignored that he was fucking killing people twice a year to stay young. So every 10 years he'd have to emerge with a new look and a new name. And she was a wife for his woman in hiding until she hit her 40s. Cause this dude looked like he was in his 20s.

And so then she had to pretend to be his mother. But anyways, he finally was done with it and was like saw her aging and got sad about it. And so wanted to be done. And that's why he drove off the bridge.

Bitch (:

Or maybe he was just tired of fucking old lady.

Jerk (:

That's rude.

Bitch (:

Sorry.

Jerk (:

teasing you. Surprise. What? So I like her line. He's like, she goes, you must think I'm a monster and dingos know just that you married one. Whoo. So anyways, now that we got eight killers, we've got to worry about and she's like, oh no, we can stop this as long as we stop Brickheart. And she knows who has the heart.

Bitch (:

I'm going to go to bed.

Bitch (:

Soon this is where I have help Miranda, help Miranda. I'm gonna hop to the bunny hole.

Jerk (:

So we're going back to the bunny hole.

Jerk (:

Ah, and...

Bitch (:

and break in because the stripper would be there during the day, or I guess could be the lunch rush. I don't know.

Jerk (:

But why are they why do you have to break in if it's if there's lunch rush? It's very odd. Like it's closed, but she's there. I don't know what's happening here.

Bitch (:

Why is she there all the time? I don't know. Dean just wants to go to the strip club, I think is what happened.

Jerk (:

He really, he was not disappointed about this. So they've got their they break in and they're like, they go into the locker room and we get a real gross Dean line. They're in the locker room and he kind of smirks and says to Sam, smell that. And Sam says, you're gross. Yes. Yeah. Also,

Bitch (:

And you are. You're very gross and nobody likes the way a strip club smells, especially not that locker room. That, that, that perfect. That, that, and also locker room by ass. It's just a bathroom. We all know it's just a bathroom anyways. Okay. So we go out. Yeah. And the lights come out and here comes rain.

Jerk (:

No, it smells like way too much perfume. It smells like way too much bad perfume. That real sweet, sweet perfume.

Jerk (:

Yeah. So in the main club.

Because, of course, and she's all cocky and attitude. She knew that Eleanor would break, but she's got Paul there and the guy from Phoenix. And so we have so we have the fight start.

Bitch (:

We've all joined in! We all found each other! And we have now all showed up in... The Strip Club!

Jerk (:

And they're they are not going to let Sam and Dean take her down because she knows that's what they want. So they started fighting. It's.

Bitch (:

They shouldn't have put these in different cities. Like, and they wanted this to happen. This should have been, this is so dumb.

Jerk (:

I'm just really amused that when they start to fight, the guy from Phoenix introduces himself to Dean while beating him up as I'm the guy from Phoenix. Like while they're fighting.

Bitch (:

the guy from Phoenix that you're looking for. What?

Jerk (:

I was dying at the God from Phoenix. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? Anyways, so Sam gets his bell rung or something. So Dean is being held down on the stage by Phoenix Dude and Paul. And they explain that the super strength comes with the package.

And Rand is going to give her a monologue about how she was a shy girl from Georgia and had a heart condition, but now she's seen a warrior princess. And she start straddles Dean and wants to sacrifice because it's better than sex. Sacrificing to a cow. I don't know. And then she tries to reach in his heart. Slow.

Bitch (:

Yeah, and then she tries to like, reach it like she but she's going very slow because she wants to go slow. So you can see his beating heart. But then Sam just breaks a bottle on Paul's head because he woke up.

Jerk (:

Yeah, and Dean's able to pull a demon blade and stab Rhonda or the fancy whatever the demon. Yeah, it's a demon. It's one of the one of the blades and stab her.

Bitch (:

Whatever some blades. I don't know why it's not obsidian. Like that would have made sense. Like why don't you stab them with an obsidian? Maybe they already did. I think they already did that to something in this up. I don't know. Yeah, that just seems appropriate. I don't know. That would have been like context wise would have made sense. But they don't even say like what it was that killed her. They're just like, will this work? And they're like, sure. And they're just like, it's a knife.

Jerk (:

That would have made sense, you're right.

Jerk (:

Nah, we can do Subsidian again, who cares. And anyways, it does.

Bitch (:

Yep.

Jerk (:

I'm not trying to be like obtuse here.

Obviously all the supernatural stuff. It's so weird. I get it. But I guess just a little bit like not.

Bitch (:

you went a little far.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's a lot with not explanation. You know what I mean? Like if you're going to have all this should happen, you're going to have a backstory. Does not. But either way. So.

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

Nope. Don't you know that all Mayan gods when you or not even Mayan gods, people who were being kept alive by Mayan gods when you stabbed them in the stomach with a random knife, they turned to red and blow up.

Jerk (:

Like if they had stabbed her in the heart, it might have made sense. Is the heart there? I don't know.

Bitch (:

But you just stab her in the stomach with this random knife, and then she's gonna turn red.

Jerk (:

And then everybody that also had organs from her, it's also gonna, the shared organ is also, I don't know, whatever. Either way, they did. And so, and also, does that mean there's five, does that mean there's five random transplant victims, or transplant patients who did nothing wrong potentially? They just received an organ transplant, just dropped dead somewhere. After years on a transplant list,

Bitch (:

So that means all eight people...yeah, the five people died!

Bitch (:

Well, I'm assuming they've all, but shouldn't they all be like yanking out the people's hearts though? Like why did only cardio guy and then the guy in Phoenix rip out hearts?

Jerk (:

Well, maybe they were, but they didn't mean to.

Bitch (:

Well, that also means like there was also like five other dead bodies, right? And like sit down, but also like all they were doing was like, Oh my God, I need a kidney.

Jerk (:

Yeah, unsolved murders.

Jerk (:

Yeah, these people spent years on a transplant list probably, and like finally get like this, like, Oh, we've got a, we've got an organ for you. We found a match and then they get it. And then it's like, Oh, I've got this new organ, so I'm not going to die. But now I've got this like desire to rip people's hearts out and no shit. Now I'm dead.

Bitch (:

We found a match!

Bitch (:

Yeah. Yeah, should have gotten your brother's kidney. All right. So they go to Eleanor's house and they're like, it's over.

Jerk (:

What's a bummer? Ugh.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Yeah. And she's like, well, finally, I can be at peace either. I knew I would be either way, whether you succeeded or if Randa killed me. I'm like, OK, Ellen or Betsy, whatever the fuck your name is, is weird. So Sam and Dean get back on the road. And they're going to talk about how they both want different things again.

Bitch (:

Yep, and Dean's just like, I love being a warrior.

Jerk (:

And Sam's like, I don't. So as we figure out Kevin in the tablet, I am done. I want my normal life. I had it for that year off. I want it back. Period. And he's just kind of brushing him off.

Bitch (:

It's just like, that's just the way you feel now. You won't feel it. Wait, and again, this is where I told you this would come back. Like, this isn't the way, this is the way he's felt for his entire fucking life. But as if this isn't bad enough, now we're gonna get another fucking flashback.

Jerk (:

in.

Jerk (:

Oh, and Sam's at the park with the dog and he's looking for Amelia. He's all worried, run around following the dog. And the dog leads him to a surprise birthday picnic with a cake. He's very happy.

That's it.

Bitch (:

Yep. And so he's very happy because he finally got a birthday cake in a field with a dog. And now he's sad.

Jerk (:

Such a pain in the ass. Picnics are such a pain in the ass.

Bitch (:

I don't know, but she dragged all that shit out and like, whatever. So, all right, let's, let's go to some casting couch.

Jerk (:

All right. So we've got first up, we'll talk about random Moreno was played by Kira Zagorski. I know it's Kira Kyra, too. She's been an episode. She actually did not have a huge.

Bitch (:

What a name! Zygorsky!

Jerk (:

I don't know if that's the word, not a massive amount of castless things, but she's been episodes of shows like Fringe, Smallville, Travelers, Arrow 700. Or sorry, she was in multiple episodes on a recurring character in the 100 as Kara. Well, I'll mention the guy from Phoenix was played by Jimmy. His character, the actor, the character was supposed to be Jimmy Tong is played by Darryl Kwan.

And he's actually a stunt man. And he's been a stunt man in a lot of things like Deadpool, Power Rangers, Suicide Squad, Step Up, All In, and three of the Twilight movies. So I'm gonna back over to Eleanor Holmes, AKA Betsy, was played by Petty McCormack. And she's had quite a career in film and television, dating back to the mid 50s.

Bitch (:

That is impressive.

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

just I just tried to pick him, you know, pick out a couple of things that stood out to me. So her resume and background is way. I don't know. I don't have the word to wait. It's just massive. But she was a Rhoda in the bad seed in 1956. Joanna in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn in 1960. She was Edie in the miniskirt mob in 1968, which looks like a really fun, like kind of campy film.

Bitch (:

Too big.

Jerk (:

She was a recurring character in Dallas in the early 80s. She was Mommy in Mommy, the 1995 horror film. She has episodes of shows through the 90s and the 2000s of ER, Baywatch, Grey's Anatomy, Scandal, multiple episodes as Liz in The Sopranos. She was kind of cool in 2000.

2022, she was in the Bad Seed Returns. And then, so like a throwback to her 50s role. And then...

Bitch (:

Well, she, the 50s role she was nominated for an Academy Award. And a Golden Globe.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's a big deal.

s Pat Nixon in Frost Nixon in:

Bitch (:

Yeah, she's got a Hollywood, she's got a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That's huge.

Jerk (:

That's a big deal.

Well, and then I would be...

Bitch (:

She got it in 1960, but she's still a star.

Jerk (:

Wow, that's pretty cool. That's pretty early in her career too. And then I would be remiss if I did not include Detective Pike. This is the detective who was quite snarky about Sam and Dean's curiosity about their runner suspect. Was played by Alan Ackles.

Bitch (:

Papa Ackles!

Jerk (:

Yes. And he he's not he doesn't have a huge credits either, but he was in episodes of Dallas, both the original and the reboot, as well as he was in several episodes of the original Walker, Texas Ranger, different characters. But that's a couple of things he's been in over the years. But most importantly, he's Papa.

Bitch (:

Most importantly, he gave the seed. Sorry. I'm sorry. Can't all be winners. Like this episode.

Jerk (:

Oh, who, no, all right.

Jerk (:

on what sucks because actually parts of it I really freaking liked. It also gave me the heebie-jeebies because I've known some like people I've known people that I've had organ transplants and it gives like heebie-jeebies.

Bitch (:

we've had an organ transplant episode before and yeah but I don't know there's just so much that was

Jerk (:

I know, I just don't-

Jerk (:

I felt like here's the deal. Like I'm going to say, like the Randa thing, I think, I feel like it just was not well thought out. The episode was like, you know what I mean? Like I got the concept, but you've got the whole Randa's doing this crazy ritual. You've got all these people that suddenly have super strength. But like, what did they do? Like, did they agree to this shit? Like what is happening? And then you've got, I don't know, just like it was not well thought out.

Bitch (:

None of them were none of them. And it was like this multi state monster thing. That's just I don't know. I think you bit off more than you can chew. You insulted a lot of people. You just like it. You probably just would have been better off without a lot of this. And then like, you know, I get, you know, the trope of we just got to get back on the road and get on like

sometimes that gets a little redemptive right and like so you know this has been sam this sam not wanting to hunt it was the thing that happened in season one episode one this is not our new thing and i don't know it's i don't just go find kevin

Jerk (:

Yeah, that's true.

Jerk (:

Well, I think like I agree. So I don't think I'm totally worn out on the Sam wanted to have a normal life thing. Because I think if he finally I think he got into hunting again, because I think he decided that he couldn't have a normal life. And then he realized that he could. But I think like this, like the biggest thing, I think it just was not. Thought out like the storyline, I guess, Jimmy holes. That's my complaint.

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

Yeah, no, so it's a lot of holes in chess, but I don't know, like, it just feels to me like you're ignoring a central part of the Sam Winchester character when you just, if you're going to go back to this and say it's new, and I think it would have been a much more an interesting exploration, or at least would have made more sense to me if he was like, I like have rediscovered, like my love for law, my love for learning, like something that wasn't just like a found a chicken.

Jerk (:

That's true.

Jerk (:

No, that's very true.

Bitch (:

dog and I realized I wanted to have a birthday cake in the park, which also like to be fair, you have missed out on a whole lot of life, right? Even on the road, you haven't had a birthday cake, you haven't had all this stuff, although you may have had it with Jessica, you know, like, I don't know.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

Absolutely.

Jerk (:

home base.

Jerk (:

Yeah, but you didn't get to complete it. Yeah. So no, I think I think I think that is a big error and not like acknowledging like Sam has rediscovered this, not like, oh, it's a new thing. I want to I'm done hunting. But no, Sam's always kind of wanted to be done hunting. He was only doing it because he felt he had to or he had no other options. There you go.

Bitch (:

that. And also just so last week Dean was a psychopath. And part of this, yeah, I mean, I know, like, these were probably shot around and moved in different orders, probably for somebody shooting schedule. But at the same time, like last week, you see, you were so angry and bitter and psycho. And now you're just super happy, Dean, like, I feel like there's some discount.

Jerk (:

And then you're all happy.

Jerk (:

weird. I agree. I noticed that too. And I thought that was odd. Like he was all angsty and I'm mad because I was in purgatory. Now he's like, I love hunting. This is the best. I got a new perspective. And it's very odd. I like it.

Bitch (:

Yeah, and I think you could tell it was reordered, right? Like this would have made more sense before the last one.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Agreed.

Bitch (:

And they also should have brought the mayor back. Mainly because I like the mayor, right?

Jerk (:

If they're going to have him on the phone, they might as well show us the mayor. Right. Yeah, he's fun.

Bitch (:

Okay, well, we haven't gone that much over time. So with that, I think, yeah, maybe next week's a bit better.

Jerk (:

And we're good.

Jerk (:

Hope so. Cheers, bitch.

Bitch (:

Alright, cheers, sir.

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