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WK 2 Ballers and Bums Week 2 Wrap-Up: Our Unfiltered Take

T: Welcome. Welcome. Welcome Islanders. We're back at it with another one week to wrap up of our ballers and bums. This is going to be the guys that balled out and the guys that absolutely just shit the bed. They didn't even show up to the damn stadium. That's how bad it was. Or at least they shouldn't have because they just fucking sucked.

With me today is Bombo. We're going to go ahead and carry the torch for King. He's out, but that's okay. We still got you guys covered. We're going to go after our ballers. First Bombo, I'm going to throw out four names that balled out in week two, and I want to get your feedback. And I want you to hit me back with somebody that you like.

Okay. So I'm going to go ahead and throw out some names. First guy that balled out was Keenan Allen for eight catches, 111 yards and two tutties. We got Puka Nakua with 15 catches, 147 yards, still a donut on tutties, but it's just a matter of time. Danny Dines for 321 passing yards, two tutties and one rushing tutty.

So a total of three Tuddy's and then we got Mike Evans. That's right. I said it. Mike Evans, go back. You got the receipts on me. I said this guy was going to fucking stink ass. Why? Two words, Baker Mayfield. I still think that just in the grand scheme of things, it's going to happen, but he had six catches for 171 yards and one Tuddy.

And I'm going to tell you right now, as a sour grapes kind of guy, because I'm a Bears fan and they got this on the Bears, that a lot of that 171 yards. was yak yards after the catch. Cause they were not deep passes. Cause Baker cannot throw the deep ball, but he just balled out by yak points. And that was, that was crazy, you know, then, and a lot of that was a bears not being able to freaking, uh, tackle him and just kind of wrap them up.

So anyway, enough with that bumble. Who stood out to you and what guy do you want to focus on?

Bombo: I think you said enough on Mike Evans. I was thinking of Mike Evans because I have a receipt out there too. And I said, don't draft Mike Evans as one of your top wide receivers. And so far, Mike Evans is putting up some good numbers, but it's a long season. But if you have T's receipts, look for my receipt in there too, because it's got the exact same total on it, but I'm going to go with, uh, Danny dimes, good old Dan Newton, he puts up like Cam Newton numbers, but in a less, you know, flashy and less pretty way, it's just real ugly.

But when, I mean, you said it yourself, three to 321 yards, two passing touchdown, one rushing touchdown on the ground, it's Danny dime. So it'll go down the alley and not really down the main boulevard. It was Lamar Jackson putting up those numbers. Everybody would start saying, this is the breakout, you know, Lamar's back.

But it seems like Danny Dimes gets this it done more often than not. And it's ugly. But he definitely should be rostered. And right now he definitely should be started. It's not the prettiest results that you want, but it is the results that you want.

He is putting up fantasy points and it's about time to stop being surprised by some of the numbers that he puts up. And by the way, he's doing it with nobodies at wide receiver,

T: Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to be the counter to your argument with, with Danny. Okay. Here's the thing. You're right. It's not pretty. It's pretty damn ugly. Let's just be honest. However, he did it against a Cardinals team, a Cardinals team that they dropped 28 on them and it should never have been that close.

Yeah, it should have never been that fucking close. No, no. But here's where I'm going to say this is where it's a hard start for me next week is because they got the mighty niners, the mighty 49ers. And that's that defense is legit. They're for real and I think it's going to be a tough go, but I agree with you that, you know, you, you gotta play them.

If you have him on your roster, he is one of those guys that are going to get points. I mean, outside of the Cowboys, that was a tough going. That was ugly. You know, that week one against Cowboys, but I did like what he did last week, but again, it was against the Cardinals and it was against the Cardinals.

D. So I don't know what kind of stock you put into that, but I mean, Bombo, you're putting your coconuts out there for him and I love it. I absolutely love it.

Bombo: I will say this, if you have Danny Dimes, if you drafted him and you're smart, you have a guy on your bench that you can throw in situationally anytime he has to go against a top five defense that has studs on the D line and linebackers, because design runs aren't going to work against San Francisco. So if you have like a Jordan Love or Derek Carr, try to think about maybe sliding them in and then wait for Danny Dimes to play lesser teams.

T: That's a good point. That's a good point, Bombo. All right, so real quick, I'm gonna go ahead and just kind of throw one out there at you. I know I kind of ranted on Mike Evans. You and I both touched on him a little bit, but I'm gonna go out on a limb. All right, the easiest one is Puka, right? But I'm gonna go out on a limb.

I'm gonna throw out Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen had eight catches for 111 yards and two tutties. He's healthy right now when he's healthy. He'll get you those numbers He'll get you those fantasy points, but it's hard for me as a fantasy owner to draft him at the draft position He usually goes at because for me it's what's what do we always say on the show?

The best ability is Availability and with him availability is always the hardest thing and he goes down so much And at his draft position, it's hard for me to be able to justify that when you got other guys out there. But there are people with big coconuts that do go out there and get them. And if you got him, you gotta play this guy.

He is gonna be on your starting lineup week in and week out. You have to, unless he's hurt or unless. Other than that, you got to play this guy as long as he's healthy because Herbert's going to be throwing that rock everywhere. He slings that thing. He is a gunslinger and he's going to get those catches.

I'm looking forward to the coming week when they're going to go up against the Vikings because that is going to be a shootout and everybody that has a piece of any of those receiving cores has got to play them because this is going to be very exciting.

Bombo: I agree T, Keenan Allen, it may seem like this, like it was a blow up or, or like, uh, uh, coming out for him on this offense for this year. But these are numbers that, you know, we expect a healthy Keenan Allen to put up as a number one right receiver, who is the focal point of the offense. I know Mike Williams is the big body, big catch down the field guy.

And Eckler is as exciting and lightning in a bottle as they come. But the offense is built around the Keenan Allen and Justin Herbert connection. Keenan Allen runs great routes. He knows where the ball is supposed to be. And if the ball needs to be placed somewhere else away from the defender, he has the body control to get to it.

But like we were talking about. In a previous segment about right receiver handcuffs, a smart owner, a smart drafter. If you got Keenan Allen later on in the draft, you got Quentin Johnston, just in case Keenan gets that hamstring injury, just in case something happens to him because Quentin Johnston for the chargers can slide right into that Keenan Allen role and start getting some of those targets.

He may not produce the same way that Keenan Allen is. But at least it, it is a high volume passing offense, and that would be the new number one receiver. So as long as he's healthy, Keenan Allen should 100 percent be in your starting lineups. But now is the time to start looking at what the options are for your lineups, just in case that injury bug happens, because it's not a question of if.

It's a question of when,

T: Absolutely. It's not if it's when, because he will go down at some point as he always does. And for those Eckler owners, now all of a sudden he becomes even more valuable because he becomes a receiver, de facto receiver for them. All right, Bombo. So let's, it's going to go ahead and get us into our bums.

He had negative two yards on the fucking day for week two. Negative two. Are you kidding me? Then we have DK Metcalf. This guy is supposed to be all world. He had six catches for 75 yards. Do you know what that is? Do you know what that number is? That's chase Claypool freaking numbers. Are you kidding me?

That's Claypool. Are you kidding me, man? For a DK Metcalf owner, I'd be pissed. Then you got Jamar Chase. That makes me even more pissed because that's the other guy that's on my roster is jamar chase two weeks in a row Shitting the bed why because of the quarterback situation over there and we'll get into that in a different segment But five catches for 31 yards.

Are you kidding me? And the last guy i'm gonna throw out there. It was a decent day, but he still earned a spot on the bum list because he should be doing more than that. And I could have hit the easy button. I could have said Justin Fields is a bum, but yes, he's expected to make that leap, but he's not there yet.

This guy actually is. And I'm talking about Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence had 216 yards passing, no picks, but no tighties. So they struggled he's struggling to be able to get those . Week one look pretty good week two It didn't look good for them. It just looked like they were unprepared.

So I don't know I'm having some issues with some of these guys on the list Bombo save me before I start getting crazy

Bombo: you have a reason to be crazy off some of these guys. So the only one I'm going to give a pass to. Is Jamar Chase because he potentially has a gimpy quarterback throwing him the ball, but still, I'm not going to lie. If you're a court, if you're a wide receiver going in the top five and arguably one overall in some drafts, you should be able to put you and me back there at quarterback and that guy produce some numbers.

So. The right now he's, he's, he's on the list. He's on, he's on the watch list. You got to watch to see what's going on. Because if he takes a big nosedive, just because burrows hurt, then we have to classify him like a Garrett Wilson, totally QB dependent. He is not able to sustain success on his own.

Unlike guys that we've seen, like we've talked about DJ Moore, like DJ Moore. He's had bums, like guys that wouldn't even make the bums list. There's so much, they're so bad bums throwing him the ball. And he's still been able to put a thousand yard season. So, you know, the clock's ticking Jamar, you know, if no matter who's back there under center, we're your owners, the people rostered want to see you.

Uh, Want to see you produce results, but I'm going to have to be the Homer on this one T. Josh Jacobs, negative two yards. This guy held out all summer and complained about not getting paid. And I'm all about players getting their money. Do what you gotta do. But, once you get paid, don't put up negative two yards.

I don't care if it's against the Bills. You led the league in rushing last year. I don't care what's going on with the offensive line. You showed up, you said you were ready to play. Negative two yards. That's that's two less yards than I had watching the game on my couch. Think about that. So, and, and it wouldn't even be that big of a deal if he didn't hold out and didn't demand, to have the Raiders take care of him, which they did.

And I'm glad that all worked out. But you got to produce, you got to put up your, your end of the bargain, your end of the deal when it comes to that. Uh, I'll try to think of it as glass half full and I've spoke on this before. What we've seen the past two weeks looks like preseason week four and week five instead of regular season week one and two.

So hopefully this bad football is out of everybody's systems because this is kind of getting true. All these guys that don't play in preseason, they're using this as their tune up games. But from here on out, we need these games to start counting. And we need these fantasy numbers from these studs to start happening because these names on the bum list shouldn't even happen.

Jacobs, Metcalf, Chase, and Lawrence on the bums on the bum list is wild.

T: All right, so before we go ahead and end this I'm gonna throw a nugget out to you because you mentioned the guy's name You put his name in your mouth And I just feel like I really needed to say something. You were talking about DJ more. You're talking about a guy who. should be quarterback dependent, but he's not because look at what he was having throw to him.

I mean, they were bringing dudes off the stands. They got, they got some homeless guy off of the street just to kind of throw at him. And he was still putting up some more points. Last year was a down year for him. And we all know, but I mean, How many quarterbacks are you throwing to him? My point being is what you were saying is 100 percent true because of the fact, look at Justin Fields.

Justin Fields shit the bed last week. And just because I'm a Bears fan, I'm not going to just like leave him on this list. But there was other guys too that were more meaningful that should have balled out but didn't. So that's why we left him off the list for this week. But DJ Moore still had 104 yards.

He still had a hundred yard game and Justin Fields just like threw up a stinker So are you gonna sit there and tell me that a guy like Jamar chase can't do the same? I mean what the hell I'm with you Bumble. I'm with you You could you just called him out and you just laid it out there facts Hashtag facts,

Bombo: Facts.

T: rack them.

Absolutely.

Bombo: Moore was a touchdown away from finishing as a top three wide receiver while Justin Fields was having probably one of the worst games of his career. QB proof, QB proof,

T: Absolutely. Cubie proof. I love it. All right. That's going to go ahead and wrap us up there. Bumble. That was a crazy segment. He just got my blood going. Cause you know what? It's really the bums list. I got my, my blood going only because I got two of these guys and I drafted them high. One of them was a keeper.

I mean, this is like what the, Oh, just kind of frustrating. And Hey, you know what though? But my frustration is what a lot of our listeners are going through this. This is, this is what it means to be a fantasy owner. You know, if I'm showing my frustration, guys, it's because we're with you.

We're one of you. We're doing this with you and we're drafting these guys. We're, we're out there keeping these guys. It's real legit shit for us too. So Bambo, I'm going to go ahead and wrap it up before I keep going on a rant. So for our listeners, make sure you listen, you subscribe, and you share that shit with your friends.

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