Empowering women after divorce starts with one truth: you are valuable. In this episode, attorney and author Heather Quick shares how women can reclaim their worth, protect their peace, and build businesses that reflect their true gifts.

In this empowering conversation, Lesa Koski sits down with Heather Quick, a Florida-based family law attorney, author, and entrepreneur who’s helping women navigate divorce and rediscover their purpose. From her bold decision to launch her women-only law firm to writing multiple books and mentoring women through business ownership, Heather shares her journey with raw honesty and practical insight.

Whether you’re in the middle of a life transition or simply wondering what you’re truly good at—this episode will remind you that it’s never too late to pivot, grow, and reclaim your voice.

⏱️ Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction to Heather Quick

(01:45) Heather’s legal journey and aha moment in family law

(06:32) From criminal law to empowering women through divorce

(09:05) The impact of being a child of divorce

(12:15) Why she opened a women-only divorce law firm

(18:00) What most women don’t realize about their worth

(21:25) The emotional strength needed to downsize and start fresh

(25:42) How Heather built her law firm from scratch during a recession

(31:10) Learning to run a business (not taught in law school!)

(34:28) The “borrowed strength” concept to support women through divorce

(36:15) Why she wrote A Woman’s Guide to Becoming a Successful Entrepreneur

(41:22) How to rediscover what you're good at—especially after a hard season

(47:50) The importance of pivoting without shame

(51:00) Raising strong daughters and becoming a resilient woman

(56:00) Final encouragement and how to connect with Heather

💡 Key Takeaways:

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• You can start over—and thrive—after divorce.
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• Your value doesn’t disappear when your relationship ends.
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• Starting a business can be a path to freedom, joy, and healing.
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• “Borrowed strength” from others can help you rebuild your identity.
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• Pivoting isn’t failure—it’s proof that you’re still growing.
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👩‍⚖️ Guest Bio:

Heather Quick is a family law attorney, author, and founder of The Quick Law Group, a Florida-based firm dedicated exclusively to representing women through divorce. She is the host of the Women Winning Divorce podcast and the author of several books, including A Woman’s Guide to Becoming a Successful Entrepreneur. Heather empowers women to take control of their lives both legally and financially after divorce.

🔗 Resource Links:

• https://www.floridawomenslawgroup.com/
• https://www.instagram.com/4womenlaw/
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• 🎧 Women Winning Divorce Podcast: https://womenwinningdivorce.com
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• 📚 Heather’s Books: [Amazon Author Page or Bookstore Link]
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• ✨ Lesa Koski’s Podcast + Courses: https://www.lesakoski.com
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Welcome listeners.

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I am thankful that you're here today.

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I have Heather Quick.

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She's a big deal.

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She is a big time attorney in Florida

and she's got a really unique, authentic

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story that she's gonna share with us.

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She's au also an author.

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She's written a lot of books about

helping women through divorce.

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There's one that I told Heather

quick before we got on that I'm

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really interested in, and that

one is about a guide to becoming

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a successful entrepreneur because

this episode is really gonna

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be all about empowering women.

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So I'm really excited about that.

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And if you want to, to

get more information about

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divorce, um, Heather's got.

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The Women Winning Divorce

Podcast, check her out there.

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I'll have the link in the show notes.

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But Heather, thank you for

taking the time to be here.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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I am so excited.

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Thank you for having me.

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Of course.

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I love, love being a guest.

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I love being a guest on a podcast

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Speaker: so much.

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I love that.

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I love that.

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You love that.

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So this is gonna be fun.

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All right.

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Would you mind, because you're

kind of a new connection, yes.

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For me, yes.

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And I've read up on you, but would

you mind sharing with the audience

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your experience and what led you to do

the work that you're doing right now?

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Sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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So, um, you know, I, uh, I

always, I mean, I could make

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this into this really long story.

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I'm gonna just try to hit the

highlights, but basically I really

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always wanted to be a lawyer.

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Uh, you know, so it took me, I had a

little, uh, detour, you know, right.

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And initially in college, but then

I got on track, got to law school.

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I, um.

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I grew up with, um, my

grandfather and my uncle.

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Big influences.

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My grandfather was a judge, um, here,

uh, for his whole career, pretty much.

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And my uncle was an attorney.

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Um, and so they, you know, I had these

ideas of what a lawyer would be, which.

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Was basically, uh, doing

trial work, criminal work.

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Um, and so I really thought

that was going to be my path.

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And, um, I, I went to be a prosecutor

first, which was a great experience.

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It's just good, uh, to get in

front of a courtroom in front of a

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judge and just be there every day.

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It was great.

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And then most criminal attorneys

go then to criminal defense.

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Um, and I just really,

it was not in my nature.

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Uh, so because I had been so used

to putting people in jail and let's,

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you know, keep, make clear, I was

a misdemeanor prosecutor, so I,

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these were not like huge cases, but

I was like, give them a year, you

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know, which was the maximum Right.

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Misdemeanor.

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So, you know, uh, but that's usually how

young attorneys are just real gung ho.

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But, um.

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As I was figuring that out and

what my own practice would be, it

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wasn't really criminal defense.

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It was like, this isn't satisfying for me.

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This is not something I want to do.

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And I kept getting family law cases and.

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They really, uh, you know,

I, I understood these folks.

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Um, and I had done a little bit of family

law when I worked for my uncle, uh,

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when we moved back home to Jacksonville.

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But, um, you know, I really started to

think, gosh, I can really, I can really

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make a difference for these individuals.

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And I, you know, at the time, I think

that was what was important to me,

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that I was doing something that.

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Felt like I was really helping

them on the criminal defense side.

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I just didn't feel aligned.

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Mm-hmm.

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With who I was and I didn't feel

like I could bring much value.

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But in the family law world, I really, I

really was, I am very good with people.

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I can connect with people, intuitive,

you know, so I can really understand.

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Where they're coming from.

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And then of course, not that I didn't

know this, but sometimes you know

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you have an aha moment and you're

like, oh my gosh, that's right.

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My parents have each been married and

divorced several times, not to each other.

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Right?

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So I have, I understand this really well.

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I didn't have to go

through my own divorces.

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I was there for theirs.

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And so I could relate to our client,

my clients, I could relate to their

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concerns about their children because.

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I've been a child, you know, and

I, I really was like, ah, this

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is what I am supposed to do.

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I would never, I would've never

said that in, in, uh, in law school.

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I didn't even take a family

law course in law school.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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No, in, in fact, and I'm the same.

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I had never expected that that would be

something that I would be working in.

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Yeah.

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Um, and I love how you are sharing that.

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You wanna help people.

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So we, we have some good attorneys out

there, folks, you know what I mean?

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Sometimes we get a bad rap, but

there really are people who care.

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And I love, I was gonna ask you,

it was in, in the back of my mind.

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Have you been a child of divorce

or been through a divorce yourself?

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Mm-hmm.

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And I think that does give you some

perspective and you know, you can

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really speak to how to do things

better for the sake of the children.

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I mean, that isn't that like

the most important thing and

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you are making a difference.

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You are, you know, setting them

up for a better life after this.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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And that that is, yes, that is our

whole goal, right, is to set them up

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and even if maybe financially it's a

little more cha, it's more challenging

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when they're on their own, but.

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I think, you know, that their

freedom and the ability to have

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peace in their life mm-hmm.

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Um, really outweighs that.

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And I think, you know, we're, we're

fortunate in this day and age, there are a

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lot of ways to make a living as you know.

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I mean, yes.

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Um, and they can get creative, but

just to have the peace and the ability

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to do things the way they want to.

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Um, you know, I think that's, that's.

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A huge, um, gift and it's an amazing

if you get to live your life that way.

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Speaker: That is, that is one of the

blessings that can happen through divorce.

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And I know that can be really scary

to take two incomes or you know, two

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people together and then split 'em off

and be trying to make the same amount.

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But like you said, you have the freedom

to choose how you wanna spend it.

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And I can't tell you the amount

of women that I've talked to that.

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Once they finally decided to downsize, a

lot of times they're spinning wheels and

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trying to keep the house for the kids.

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Yes, eh, maybe that's not the best.

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The best thing for anyone because

they want their kids to be involved

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in their normal activities and when

they downsize, they've got freedom.

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So, yeah, it's a double-edged sword.

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But I told you we weren't gonna

talk too much about divorce.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Right.

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So tell

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Speaker: me, you opened

your own law practice.

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Mm-hmm.

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That's courageous.

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So you're a courageous woman

and that's what I wanna, I

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wanna learn about you that way.

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So what, okay.

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What led you to do that?

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'cause it's not easy.

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I've done it too, and it's.

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It's hard and it's not, uh,

it's not always beautiful.

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It's not always, um, fiscally great.

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You know, it's a struggle

sometimes, so, yes.

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So tell me about what led you to do

it on your own and to focus on women.

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Speaker 2: Well, um, so the

whole thing was an evolution,

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but I will tell you, and, um, you

know, sometimes right when you.

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When you don't know how many options

you have, or you don't think you

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have a lot, like it can allow you to

make a bolder decision, and maybe you

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would have if you'd had other options.

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And so it was 2009.

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Um oh actually.

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Oh.

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2010 is when we opened it.

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When I opened it.

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So 2009.

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Um, you know, in that period of

time, uh, the economy was not doing

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great and that was really when the

housing bubble was really opening up.

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So.

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I had not been, uh, working full-time.

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Had just had our third child, uh, in

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Uh, he still is a builder.

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He is a contractor.

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But, um, he, uh, and he

had some spec houses 'cause

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everything was booming and all.

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And, um.

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Then it was not great, right?

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It was not great at all.

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And we found ourselves in a position that

was, um, you know, not ideal, not the

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booming, uh, you know, housing market.

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And I needed to make some decisions.

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He also just due with the stress of

all that, had a heart attack at 42.

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Oh my gosh.

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Um, and so, and very healthy

guy, like, you know, you would

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never looking at him, um.

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It was, you know, genetics,

but stress led to Wow.

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A lot of that.

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Of course.

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So anyway, it was time for me to put that

very expensive education, uh, to use.

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Again, he encouraged me very

much so to, uh, go out on my own.

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But I will tell you, uh, there was

nobody hiring lawyers at the time either.

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Mm-hmm.

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So let's be clear if that

had maybe been an option

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Speaker: right.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad it wasn't

I, I may have gone another path.

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Um, and so.

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Went ahead and, you know,

the, uh, what everybody says.

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Oh, and you have so

much flexibility, right?

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And I say yes to work seven

days a week, midnight, early

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mornings, all of that time.

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Yes.

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Um, but that, so that's what I

did, you know, and opened the

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firm and then I, I did invest.

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Uh, in, you know, training,

learning how to run a business.

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'cause that is not anything

you learn in law school.

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So smart.

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Speaker: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So I, I, I made that

investment and, and at that moment I

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really began my education on running

a business and, um, you know, all the

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things that were necessary, how to

market, sell, and you know, how to hire.

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So all of those things, you

know, which is always an ongoing

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evolution, uh, education.

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And through that, so we started

in, originally I was like,

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oh, I'll do criminal defense.

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No.

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Yeah, that didn't, that didn't go long.

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And then it was like, no, we're doing

family law because I couldn't do both.

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And I'll tell you why, because I'm

obviously, you know, gonna deliver

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the best that I can for my clients.

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The, the law, there's

always new decisions, right?

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We're always keeping up.

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And so I was just getting like

all of these weekly things on

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all criminal law and family law

and I was like, I can't do both.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, and so then it was really, well,

I'm gonna focus on family law because

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that seems to be a better fit for me.

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And through that process and growing,

and again, just learning more about

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myself and as I was practicing and it

was a few years in and I, I was taking,

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um, men, men and women clients, um.

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Just like everybody else does, right?

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And um, and but then through my business

training and learning, it was like, well,

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what clients do I really like the best?

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Um, and why?

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And really what it was is, uh, women

clients who really just don't think.

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They have much value and um, you

know, because then what I then,

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you know, through that, you know,

self-reflection and understanding, I was

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like, man, my mom did the same thing.

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Mm-hmm.

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Just wanna get away, get out,

and not sticking up for what you

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deserve and not maybe really.

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Trusting yourself, listening to this

guy, um, this narcissist who's, you know,

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gaslighting you about all this stuff.

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And, um, so I, I re recognize that.

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I'm like, all these women are going

through these same patterns, but

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if we can step in and be their

strength and give them, you know,

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good legal advice, say you can do,

like, we're almost at the end, right?

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Everybody wants to quit right?

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When it's almost over.

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Yeah.

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So don't, like, we're almost

there and, you know, give

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them that strength they need.

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To finish.

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I was like, I think I'd be really good

at that and that is what I wanna do.

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And it, that was a big, bold move for me

as well, because you make up all these

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things in your head, what are gonna,

people gonna think that it's just a ploy.

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Women only, 'cause we do have like men

only divorce and that is relatively

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common throughout the country, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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People have heard of that.

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But you know, this is

the interesting thing.

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'cause we say women only,

we're the only firm.

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Uh, I think in the US that does that.

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Now, they may say, well, we,

we mostly represent women.

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I was like, I know, but

do you turn away men?

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Right?

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But do you say No, that's a

conflict of interest for us

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and we don't represent you.

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Um, and I don't think they do.

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Uh, so it's just really.

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That was a big move,

but then so rewarding.

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Um, and you know, along with all the

challenges of a business, but been

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great and um, you know, we've just

been growing ever, ever since then.

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Speaker: I love that.

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And I love how you were saying, you know,

just to take a step back that the women

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that come in don't feel they have value.

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And then I was gonna ask you, how

do you help them have that value?

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And it sounds like borrowed strength,

that's like your big, because

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you don't have a lot of time to

like work with them and get them.

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But that, I mean, isn't that the truth?

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Women need to feel worthy and valued

and so if they can borrow that from you.

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Yes, hopefully they can then, as

they go through something hard, start

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to believe in it for themselves.

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So I love that you're doing that,

and this is kind of bringing me into.

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I wanna hear about your book,

women's Guide to Becoming a

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Successful Entrepreneur because

I do love what you're saying.

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In law school, they do not

teach you how to run a business.

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Yeah.

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And you, and it is like, you know,

you have to, that's one of the most

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important things when you're starting

out to get that all figured out.

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Yeah.

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So tell me how this book was born.

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You've written a lot of books.

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You're, you're busy, you're a mom,

you volunteer for a football team.

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I was reading something about that.

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Are you still doing that?

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Speaker 2: No, my son just quit

football, but just in the spring.

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So I had some obligations to finish

up over the summer, but then I was

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like, no, I'm not gonna be on the

board guys 'cause he's not playing.

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So, all right.

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Can get someone else.

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But I did do that for many, many years.

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Um.

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So he's my last one at home.

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My daughters are in college and

med school, and then he's, um, he's

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still in high school, so No, he's,

he's just a, a golfer now, so.

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Oh, I

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Speaker: love that.

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I love golf.

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I gotta tell you, I have a daughter

who just finished her residency.

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Oh my goodness.

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Wow.

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So, and those, those gals

have to be strong women.

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And in fact, my, um, daughter.

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Got married and then had a

baby during her rotations.

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I mean, she's so happy.

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She just started, I know she just started.

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Um, she's a pediatrician in a little

suburb here in Minnesota called Edina.

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So she works there and I think she's

enjoying the respite, but I don't

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know where your girls are in it.

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It is.

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Quite the journey.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, um, I mean, I thank my physicians,

like I thank service people because

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you go to war, it's like, it's a lot.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Well, she's,

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Speaker 2: we're one month in,

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Speaker: so

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Speaker 2: we have our white.

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I know.

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So we're in the very, very beginning,

but so thankful because she got

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in on her first time applying.

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Um, so yeah, we have her

white coat ceremony next week.

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So we're very excited.

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So that's so

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Speaker: fun.

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That's so fun.

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Yeah.

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It's,

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Speaker 2: we're at the beginning of that

journey for her, so that's my oldest.

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Yeah.

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Speaker: So you're, so you're helping

women find value through divorce.

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You're raising strong daughters and

you're raising a son that's going

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to see strong women, and that's

just, I love all of that about you.

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Okay, so now let's get to that.

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Okay.

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About what led you, so you wrote a lot

of books about, which is no small feat.

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I just started, I've started

writing a book in the spring,

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hoping to be done in the spring,

and I'm like, this is hard work.

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It's a lot of work.

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This is hard work in

addition to your other work.

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So I applaud you for that.

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But tell me what got

you to write that book.

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About being an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 2: So, at the time, and

you know, as, as you know, as you

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know, entrepreneurs, we can be.

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So, um, I gotta, I have

ideas all the time.

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Okay.

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Right.

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I'm like, that's the easy part.

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Um, they're, they're

just always overflowing.

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It is the execution and completion

that, you know, are the hard work.

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But at the time, I, I was thinking that.

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You know, 'cause I was in the, still

in the beginning, you know, just a

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few years in of building the business

and I, it was giving me such, um,

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empowerment and strength and, um.

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Just have freedom.

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'cause I was learning and I was

being able to do it the way I wanted.

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Mm-hmm.

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And you know, versus I'd worked for

people, you know, ever since I started

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working at 16, you know, you always

work for people and then you have

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to do what they, the way they want.

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Right.

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And um, and so I just thought if I could

maybe share some of those ideas because.

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To me it was like, well, it's very

possible for many of the women,

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you know, after divorce, they could

go into business for themselves.

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They could go do something for themselves.

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So that was my thought at the time.

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I was also had, you know, had ideas

like, oh, I'll do events for women.

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And, and we did some of, I did

it for a few years and I thought,

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well, that would be a good, a

good thing to be able to provide.

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Um, I never really carried it beyond,

you know, my events and things

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like that because it's like, okay,

well the primary business is, uh,

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a law firm and providing divorce.

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So I kind of just pivoted.

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'cause at the time, you know, I wanna

do like five different businesses,

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five different things for everybody.

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And, um.

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But I, that was the goal with that book.

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Like, just for somebody to read it

and think, oh, you know, and it's

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not a, a difficult read, right?

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It's not like learning how to read a

spreadsheet or a balance sheet, you know,

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it's more about who are you and, and

how to apply that to what you wanna do.

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Right.

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And like I had said earlier with.

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What were the clients that I

liked and what an amazing concept.

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Build a business around something that you

want to do, that you, makes you happy and

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then you know, you can be very successful.

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So that was really where that came

from and why I wrote that book.

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Speaker: Okay.

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So was the book, um, and I,

I'm gonna grab it and read it,

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but was it focusing a lot on.

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Helping women figure

out what business to do.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker: Right.

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So, and like

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Speaker 2: and more about following

yourself, like understanding who

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you are, what gifts you have, how

can you make money off of that.

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Right, right.

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And, and, and also find joy and fulfill.

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I love it.

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It's been a long time since I

wrote it, so I, I should go page.

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Okay.

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So I'm

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Speaker: kind of throwing you off.

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I didn't tell you I was

gonna talk about this.

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That's okay.

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I just, I do think for my listeners and

for myself in this journey we call life.

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I mean, that has, that was one

thing that probably hit me over the

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head and maybe in my late forties

where I was like, what do I like?

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Yeah.

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What do I like to do?

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Right.

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I don't know if that hit you, but I

just, just for those listeners who

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are curious, what's a way, if you can

remember, any ideas, um, from that book

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or just from your work, what is a way

that you help people know what they like?

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Because you know how there are some

women that are so low they don't even

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really know what they like anymore?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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I, um.

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I, I think that's such a good question.

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I think, well, first, I guess maybe

starting with what are your gifts?

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Like what are you, yes.

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What are you good at?

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And, and you may not like it, but you

may know and just at least start there

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because, and especially when, yeah.

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You life's thrown at you, you know?

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Um.

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Marriage kids.

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Yeah.

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You know, working for other people,

you know, being a daughter, you know,

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you've got, like, I've been doing so

much stuff and so you're not real sure.

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So maybe start what you

know you're good at.

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Um, and maybe things that you think

you're not good at because that,

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that could still be just because

maybe you haven't been given.

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An opportunity to pour into something

that you like more, you know, and

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you don't realize you like that.

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Um, like I didn't know I was gonna

like family law, like I didn't

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know, I didn't know I was gonna

love running a business, right?

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I thought I was just gonna be

this great, great lawyer, but I'm

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like, well, it it, I can do both.

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And, and then I can also then like.

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Um, hire lawyers, help them become great.

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Mentor them.

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Coach them, you know, and stuff like that.

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So I, and I think being open to

where your path leads you, um, you

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know, I was blessed with, with an,

I mean, I went to school, so that,

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that gives me, okay, I got a lot

degree, a lot you can do with it.

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But, so I, you know, had

that as a starting point.

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But, um, there are a lot of things

and you know, even before, well my

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undergraduate degree is nursing.

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I was a nurse.

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Yeah.

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I worked in the ER and the

trauma unit and um, really.

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And then it's like, but I was like, well,

but I think I wanna be a criminal lawyer.

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Which doesn't make sense, but I was like,

well I'm, you know, that's kind of where I

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had grown up, grown up, like seeing that.

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But um, you know, I was not, uh,

I didn't love personal injury.

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Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Um, I did do some medical

malpractice defense for a bit, and,

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um, I like that, but like, also don't

be afraid, like, just because I, I can

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read medical records and I understand

all that, and I have a law degree.

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Doesn't mean I have to go into that.

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Right.

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I was in a, I totally went in, you know,

just family law, uh, which, you know,

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all of those experiences that I had had.

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As a nurse are, you know,

gave me real life experience.

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I talk to people all the time.

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I met people from just all walks of life.

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Mm-hmm.

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In horrible situations and like all

of that, which is really allowed

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me to have a good sense of people.

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Yeah.

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So it really actually makes sense

that I'm in family law because I get,

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I understand people, I understand

all these complex emotions and.

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The, the different things that

you're going through with a divorce.

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So it actually did prepare me, but you

know, as part of one of those things,

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just because you think this is what

you have to do because this is what

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you've always done, or this was maybe

what you studied and your degree.

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It don't, don't let yourself

be pigeonholed like that.

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Like you gotta, and maybe you

have to try a few things too.

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Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

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Right.

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Maybe you have

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Speaker 2: to try, oh, let me try this.

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'cause this, I, I like the

criminal, basically, I like the

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criminal lawyers a lot better.

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They're, they're much easier,

nicer people to deal with.

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Yeah.

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Than the majority of family,

all lawyers, I will say.

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That's so

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Speaker: interesting.

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Speaker 2: Um, at least in the time

my younger self, that's what I felt.

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Um, but.

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Um, yeah.

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So, but I, I wasn't afraid to try

that, and then I wasn't afraid to

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say, no, I'm not gonna do that.

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Right.

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And then I, I did the family

law of both men and women.

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I was like, okay, I'm just gonna

try this with women only and really,

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you know, go with it and, and, and

have a good understanding and reason

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why I had a really good reason why.

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And, um, I think that's, that's a

big part of it too, kind of knowing.

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Why you're doing what you're doing.

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Speaker: That's the, and that is such a

deep question that you know, and sometimes

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it changes and I love the things that

you're saying and how you answer this.

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And I know I threw you off,

but I love the idea that I want

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women to know it's okay to pivot.

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It's not a failure.

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It's not a failure, it's

learning, it's pivoting.

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And I, when I think of my career,

'cause I started out doing estates

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and elder law because I thought I had

like a, I had gotten my master's in

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Health and Human Services and I was

gonna help those elderly people and

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I did love him and I hated the work.

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And I kind of, I kind of

did it because I thought.

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Well, it'll allow me

to be home with my kid.

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You know what I mean?

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I felt like it would be less

stressful with the kids.

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'cause I went to law school with an

infant and like a one and a half year

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old, so I know it was kind of, yeah.

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So then my daughter, my daughter

followed me and went even harder, right?

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Yep.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker: But, um, so I did

that work and I never, it was

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never something that I loved.

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And it took a moment in my life

where I went through something

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kind of hard and I was like.

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I, I don't like this.

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And then that is what I think.

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I read a book by John Maxwell.

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I wish I could remember the

name, but it was really about

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like, what are your gifts?

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What are you good at?

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And as I went through and did that,

I kept being like communication

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and helping people work together.

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And I went.

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Mediation.

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I remembered hearing about it in law

school and I was like, I'm in, I'm

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devoted to mediation and I'm telling you,

Heather, I thought I was gonna, and I

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have mediated like elder law patients,

but I thought I was gonna be mediating

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city issues and school issues and.

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And all that kept coming

to me were divorces.

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Yeah.

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And then I was like, well, I've never

been through a divorce uhhuh and I

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don't, I wasn't a child of divorce.

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I just really haven't seen a lot of it.

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But I am a, a mama that cares so

deeply, and I think then those kids.

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That started to be a big part and

I did like a parenting playing

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course and yeah, so it's so cool

how what you just said is so true.

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Yeah.

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What are you good at?

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And if it was something that I was good

at that I hated, I'd probably pivot.

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Speaker 2: Right, right,

right, right, right.

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Yeah.

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But most of the time there is something

within that list of what you're good

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at, that you're like, oh, I'm good.

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'cause I really like it.

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So I keep working at it

and I, I keep doing it.

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Um, and I do think that because when you

realize that you can do something right

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for your career, for your fulfillment,

for your financial security that you like.

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Like so many people I think

are stuck in like that.

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That's not possible, but it, it is.

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And that's like just such

a freedom to be able to do

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Speaker: that.

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Right.

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And you do.

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And I think too, that's another

thing that I've learned in my life is

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that the joy and like the just fun.

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Is probably, you know, I try to white

knuckle it through all these health

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hacks and do everything to stay healthy.

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And it's like probably the

most important thing is to

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have fun and have joy and hope.

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And I miss that.

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I miss that along the way.

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And so if you can keep that in your

mind and you know, be willing to

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pivot, I think that is gonna help you.

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And I think that's what this.

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Podcast is about helping

women through hard times.

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That's what you're doing.

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I mean, that's like, I had a, a breast,

a stage one breast cancer scare,

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um, which was hard and a lot, and

that changed my life for the better.

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So, um, you know, if we can pivot,

if we can find the joy and learn from

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other people, I think we are just.

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Gonna be moving in the right direction.

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So Heather, I just have to thank you.

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I can't believe this went so fast.

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It's like I looked at the clock and

I went, Ooh, I have to wrap this up.

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But listeners, um, find all

of Heather's information.

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I am going to have, um, all of your

books so people can look at 'em.

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And if you're in Florida.

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Yep.

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And you need an attorney, please

contact Heather and her firm.

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And, um, Heather, I just wanna

thank you for taking the time

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to be here and share your story.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for,

for asking me and wanting me to share.

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And, uh, it was a pleasure to meet you

and hopefully it was helpful and inspires,

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uh, some of your listeners today.

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I

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Speaker: think it will.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, take care.

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Speaker 2: Okay.