RE-VIEW ALERT: Special Guest Episode with Marc Tumminelli – Revisiting Episode 34 of Review That Review 🎭

Step back to January 26, 2022, for a hilarious episode featuring our first-ever Guest of Honor, Marc Tumminelli! Marc, the founder of Broadway Workshop, brings his expertise and humor as the Queens rate and review a One-Star Yelp review for LA’s Barbizon Modeling and Acting School. Marc also shares a personal review for Broadway Workshop and discusses its impact. Prepare for non-stop laughs and plenty of memorable moments! 🎧

Episode 34 Highlights:

• Guest of Honor: Marc Tumminelli joins the Queens, bringing his Broadway expertise and wit to the show. 🎭
• Barbizon Review: The trio tackles a One-Star Yelp review for LA’s Barbizon Modeling and Acting School – it’s a wild ride! 🌟
• Broadway Workshop Review: Marc opens up about a personal review for his company and its lasting impact. 🎬
• Plus, Trey wants six more inches, Marc needs Quip to get a grip, Chelsey plays Jenga with popups, and Elliott Gould owes us all an explanation. Shoutout to Nadia and AS IF! 😂

Timestamps:

• (02:04) Guest of Honor!
• (13:03) Lodge a Complaint!
• (19:28) Barbizon Modeling & Acting School Review
• (38:38) Broadway Workshop Review
• (49:34) Queens with Questions
• (52:45) My Royal Highness

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Oh my God, so much content, and we are so excited today, you guys.

I like, I can barely contain myself.

Okay, because we have a very, Very special guest of honor,

OMG, it's like

Disneyland, you guys, oh my God.

Alright, so every so often we like to invite a special guest of honor on to share some of their experiences dealing with online reviews from their unique position.

With their experience in their field, we have them don their review queen crown and help us inspect some reviews.

And today we have got the renowned.

Legendary talents of Mr.

Mark to minelli.

Woo woo.

Hi, mark.

Wow.

Hi.

Hi, Trey.

Hi Chelsea.

Thank you for having me.

Hi.

Oh, it's an honor.

It's an

honor.

It is our, I'm particularly raspy today.

Ooh, me too.

Enjoy.

Yay, me too.

You know,

I'm feeling a little, um, post nasal drip.

Call me Adelaide.

Let me tell you all a little bit about Mark Tuminelli.

Mark is the founder of Broadway Workshop, New York's top training program for young artists.

I would say so.

Yeah, I would too.

In fact, I just did.

Mark is also considered one of the top acting coaches in New York with over 60 of his students appearing in major Broadway musicals and plays, as well as on TV and film.

Mark also serves as an on set acting coach for Walt Disney Pictures, excuse me.

Additionally, Mark has become one of the go to's.

To adapt musicals for their licensable school edition versions, including titles like Spamalot and The Addams Family and over 23 others.

Mark's also a genius director, recovering actor, host of the fabulous podcast, Little Me, growing up Broadway, dog dad to the goodest boy, Max.

Oh, I love goodest boy, Max.

That's very sweet.

Well, Trey, you know, I love you and Chelsey.

I feel like we're old friends.

I feel the same way.

I listen

to you guys every week.

It's so great to be here.

Mark Tuminelli, we are so excited to have you here today.

I mean, I didn't know that you adapted musicals for the shorter like school versions.

That's so cool.

So does that mean like when I was at camp and I was doing Guys and Dolls, but like the shorter version, I have someone like you to thank for that?

Yes Yeah, basically I just look at the show and be like this song sucks and get rid of it

I always just love when they're doing like rent for kids or something, you know, like what do we do?

Yeah, I

haven't worked on Well, that one I didn't do, but they just cut two things out of it.

They don't get like a bad, they don't get bronchitis instead of HIV, you know, it's like the high school versions are very tame, but these middle school junior, What we call Young at Part at Theatrical Rights Worldwide and JV at Broadway Licensing.

They're just like these kind of fun, easy to put together, hour long versions of shows that you love.

Yeah, it's like one of my favorite things I get to do.

So yeah, thanks for bringing it up.

I've had the privilege of seeing many of the presentations that Mark has worked on and the requirements vary.

Sometimes it'll be trimming songs here and there.

And sometimes it's actually like doing a lot of script doctoring, right?

Yeah, I do a lot of rewriting.

It depends on what the project is.

Sometimes it's just very easy cuts.

Spam a lot was the world's easiest one because they're all vignettes.

So you can just cut a full vignette or rewrite it.

Slight joke, but you know, other shows like We Will Rock You get really tricky to cut.

Curtains, the musical, is the hardest one I've ever done because there's like, there's like a murder going on.

So as soon as you get rid of a character, the whole thing falls apart, but it is super creative and fun to do.

And, Mark, can you

share a little bit about your company, Broadway Workshop?

Yeah, I founded Broadway Workshop in 2007, right before the 2008 real estate crash.

And we, uh, it was a great time to start a small business and actually it was, it's actually was a very good time to start a business because no one was expecting anything.

So that helped.

But, uh, basically we do classes, workshops, camps, and productions.

for kids generally in the tri state area but since covid um we have moved everything virtually so not only are we doing classes and things in the studio we also offer tons of zoom workshops with various broadway superstars and casting directors and just gives kids with an elevated interest in the performing arts an opportunity to train in a very safe Fun environment where we can kick your butt a little bit, get you to the next level, but we also remember that this is your after school activity and there are kids that are there just for that and then there are kids that are there that will do nothing else for their entire life.

But musical theater and acting.

And so it's about finding this perfect balance between those two things.

And I think we have really found that with the kids that are attracted to Broadway Workshop.

And I'm very proud of the work we've done.

And we continue to do Lothi's many 15 or 14 years later, whatever it is.

Oh my God, that's amazing.

When you were first starting, like, how do you feel like you started to grow an audience of people that wanted to go to your classes?

Because that's such a, like, ambitious thing to do.

Well, honestly, that is the work that never stops because every year I have, you know, Kids that essentially graduate out of my program.

So I never, it's not like, Oh, we've developed this product and we can just keep doing it.

It's, we are constantly having to engage new kids.

And when I started, it was all word of mouth and it continues really to be, but one parent tells another parent.

At Ripley career in the waiting room.

Oh, you're doing this crappy class.

You should do probably workshop instead.

And that is how it really grows.

Um, and then, you know, it's like some Facebook and Instagram marketing.

And that continues to be the thing.

But it's really always been word of mouth.

And I've always really Made sure that our classes and the students experience is paramount and it's not ever Money because I can certainly produce things cheaper I can get teachers who might have a lower rate but aren't as good and so everything has always been about creating the best possible product and Hoping that people will fall in line and I think that is what you all are doing and Over at Review That Review because I think your product is like so good and it's beautifully marketed and your episodes are so good.

You're just building the thing.

You're just pushing the wheel up the hill every week a little more and more.

So yeah, good job you two.

Thank you.

You're so sweet to turn like what was basically like a cavale about you into a compliment for us.

Which I think says a lot about you.

And

I think it's also true.

I can't lie.

But I think you're talking about like the passion of it.

Like, that's what's so exciting.

Like, obviously, you're very passionate with helping, you know, these kids.

And I think that that's what brings people to you.

For sure.

You also

mentioned the power of the word of mouth.

Yeah,

which obviously is what we are so obsessed with over here.

Personally, Mark, how impacted are you in your decision making by online reviews?

Oh my god, I am a review reader.

If I am buying anything over the price of 50,

I

am reading like 10 different reviews.

I'm a researcher.

It took me like two months to buy a mattress because I needed to read every review.

I needed to go sit on it.

But I can't trust Raymond Flanagan because a lot of people have already sat on that mattress.

This is the example.

Like.

I need to feel it fresh out the box.

So, yeah, I'm a review person for bigger purchases.

I do care.

And

all listeners will remember that our Splash the Boathouse review was actually curated by Mark Tuminelli.

Oh my

God, that's right.

I love that review.

That was such a good review because it was the perfect example of how these lower reviews Not to write a

review.

Well, yeah, but also, yeah, that, but also like how not every one star review that's really dragging down that overall score is valid, which is obviously the whole point of the show, and,

well, you've got to look at many reviews because you have to figure that there's going to be like one negative review about everybody, right?

So it's like, I do a lot of restaurants, I will say.

I look at a lot of restaurant reviews, is what I would say the number one thing.

Do

you ever, like, worry about that?

Like, being in the public eye, like, like, oh, people can just write a review about me, like that.

Do you ever think about it?

I

do.

I do think about it quite a bit.

So if I'm having, like, a bout with a parent about something or a refund or something that I know, and I'm a very ethical person.

So if I if I do say so myself, but if I'm like, no, you're not You just didn't show up for that class because you got the date wrong.

I'm not refunding you.

Like I could have sold that space to another, but it's sometimes it's like, it's true.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

It's like sometimes easier just to be like, I don't want to deal with you.

I don't want you to go to and write a negative review.

Just easier to like, just let's walk away from this, which kind of sucks for the parents who like get in and be like, Oh, I missed the class.

And sometimes it's the same thing.

It's like, I missed the class.

It's our mistake.

I'm like.

Let's figure out what we can do here.

So, you know, it's, I will say that sometimes it just makes the most sense.

I've worked in customer service for a very big ticketing company and, you know, I dealt with a lot of people calling and screaming and it's just like, how do we get this person to like, chill out for a second?

Um, and you get so much more, and we all know this, if like you're really nice to somebody versus like cursing somebody out.

I've been, I've been on the wrong side of that a few times.

Yes, I'm

sure we

all

have.

Yeah, it's nice to be kill people with kindness.

Yeah, it's a lot.

But I love I love a review.

I love to read a review.

I write a review here and there.

Have you ever written like a one star review of something?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, certainly.

I, I, I probably I think I have in the Oh, I have in the last like month.

I actually your husband sent it to me.

Wait, what was it for?

I like don't even remember.

It wasn't the carpet, it

was for like the appliance.

Oh my God.

That's it.

She called me to be like, why would you write that review?

Oh my God.

Like I literally post the review.

She's like, I gave you everything back that you asked for.

I said, but is anything in my review a lie?

Like, did I embellish on anything or am I lying about anything?

She's like, no.

I was like, well, then the review stands, the public deserves to know.

That's ballsy of them to, um, call you and be

like, why would you do that?

How about calling and saying, I saw that you wrote this review.

I wanted to like, you know, make sure that, you know, that we really do care and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Maybe you would have taken it down.

I would have

100 percent taken it down.

Exactly.

I mean, that's the whole point.

Full circle.

You win more flies with honey.

You know what I mean?

There we go.

There we go.

All right.

So Mark, you obviously know this because you are a listener and we love you for that.

Yes.

But as a warm up, we like to show our diversity as RQs by sharing how we also have things to complain about.

So we don't just judge people that are judging.

So Mark, I have a big ask for you.

Would you like to join us as we

Ledge a complaint?

Yes.

Oh my.

Oh,

good.

I, I was hoping you would say yes.

Oh God.

And Ka said yes.

What if I was like, no,

I'm

worried.

. TREY GERRALD: Okay, so I today really need to lodge a complaint against power cords that are just too short.

Yes.

Have you ever had that experience?

Like perhaps you're laying in bed and you're trying to charge your iPhone and it's just like, you could use like an additional six inches scratch.

I don't wanna say that.

It's a dirty joke.

, you could just use like.

An additional foot, you

better leave that in.

You better leave.

And it's just, it's, it's like too, like then you have to like roll on one side and you're like half hanging off the bed.

It's just, it's awful.

I don't understand who came up with the actual lengths for which power cords standard.

Yeah, I was gonna say, like, do you think that there's like a focus group where they're like, is this long enough?

Like, I know with Apple,

you can buy a, um, they have two, they do have a longer version, but it's like more than 10 more, which is like, that's insane.

Ridiculous.

So I'm just, I'm lodging a complaint against power cords that are too short because life is too short for me to be dealing with a short power cord.

Have you thought?

No matter how long it would be, it would never be long enough.

Yes, I

have actually thought about that.

I mean, that's very true to life, right?

Yeah,

what

a metaphor.

Anyway, that's my complaint.

I'm lodging it.

Please, someone help us.

Another Shark Tank idea.

Oh my God, adding it to the ledger.

Totally agree.

I personally just wish that all power cords were like retractable, you know, like a retractable leash.

Like on iron irons.

Yeah,

I want it as long as the button.

Exactly.

I want it as long as I want it.

When I want it that long, you know what I mean?

And then if I just want it short, I can make it short.

Like I would pay more for the product.

Why is it not?

I don't know.

Try.

Trey just said he wouldn't pay 10 extra for the long cord.

I have

is the problem.

Would you pay for a retractable though?

A retractable cord?

I mean, who wouldn't pay for that?

That's a good

feature.

Yeah.

All right, Mark.

What about you?

Is there something you would like to complain about?

Yeah, I want to complain about the company quip and their toothbrushes.

Are they a sponsor of this podcast?

No.

Are they bad?

No.

Tell me.

I'm very obsessed with teeth.

So the Quip company is actually fabulous.

I, I just, I, I switched to a Quip this year.

Okay.

And like within like a couple of weeks, like it wouldn't do the full three minute brush would like stop after 30 seconds.

So I changed the battery.

Same thing was happening.

I emailed them.

They responded immediately.

And they said, there's something wrong here.

We'll send you a fresh one.

New one coming in the mail.

I'm like, oh, that's so nice.

They're like, just throw out your old one and like, whatever.

So I threw out the old one, got the new one, and it's happening again.

So, now here's, there's two things.

I brush my teeth more than a normal person.

So I think, you're really putting this to the test.

Yes.

The full test.

So I think it's a battery life test.

So it's fine.

I could change my own battery.

The problem is it is so hard to get the toothbrush out of the mechanical handles that like, I cannot separate these two things.

And now I'm only sitting there thinking, what is going to happen when I'm older, when I'm a senior citizen?

There's no way.

These are the things that I think about all day long.

I'm not gonna be able to do this in my late seventies or early eighties.

I can barely do it now.

Do it now.

So my issue with quip is like, there needs to come a better way.

Maybe you can turn it to the left and something needs to happen, but you cannot get, the other thing is you cannot buy just the brush head and I can't wait three months.

Well, when you order online, it comes with a toothpaste and it comes with the floss.

I don't want their toothpaste or floss on my own toothpaste.

I just want extra heads cause I'm going to change it every three weeks because I'm a big.

This is like

all sounding very wasteful to me, you know, throw out the old toothbrush.

Because when you get in

three months, it's just, I got to say, I think I'm looking at some regular old back to electronic,

say, go back to the Sonicare, man.

I am going back to a Sonicare.

I don't like having all those things in my, I know it's a lot.

Me too.

I hate that.

So

interesting.

So good complaint.

I love Quip, but that it is exceedingly difficult to pull it apart.

I've, I,

but I do love the product.

It's very good.

And the customer service is excellent.

So lodging a complaint to make that easier to remove,

they should really listen to this and change these things about their products, because it seems like they're doing a lot right.

Please tag them in the show notes.

I will, for sure.

We'll

do.

All right, Chels, what about you?

I just want to talk a little bit because I feel like this was a big topic back in the day and we haven't talked about it as much but like pop ups of any kind that come up on a website and especially the kinds of pop ups that come up like if I'm reading like a New York Times article or something and then all of a sudden you pop up at me like I need to subscribe in order to finish the freaking article like Just stop it.

I can't stand it.

It's really annoying.

Or the the pop up is to like move with you.

So you're trying to like do some sort of like, I don't know, online Jenga situation in order to finish reading the article.

I cannot.

What is this?

What is this?

It's particularly bad if you're a theater lover and you check out Playbill.

com, It is the worst pop up situation, New York Times is pretty bad too, but, It's uh, it's rough stuff,

It's like, yeah, It's like they have to make money, It's so weird, And then sometimes there's like a hidden X, You gotta find the fucking hidden X,

Or the X is there and you hit it and it takes you to the thing, Right, it's like a gray little X, you can't find it, Because you didn't hit

the X right, You hit the X a little bit to the right of the X, And now you're at an ad landing page,

It's ridiculous.

I feel you, Chelsey.

Thank

you.

I feel, I feel you too.

That, that is like a thing.

It's like a constant aggravator as you're just trying to seek knowledge

on the internet.

Just trying to read an article, learn some things, you know?

Okay, here we go.

So Mark, since you are an acting coach for youth today, I brought in a review that we're really going to need your expertise on.

Okay.

Great.

I have a one star Yelp review for, I'm nervous to say the company name.

I'm going to just say the company.

Okay.

So I have a one star Yelp review for Barbizon, youth acting and modeling company in Los Angeles, California.

Great.

That I feel So, how it works here is I'm going to read the review, we're going to break it down together, and all three of us will rate the impact on a scale from one to five crowns.

And this is a very regal process that we like to call,

Assess That Kevich!

And it's your turn, Mark, to embody your review queenness and help us crown Trey's review.

Are you ready for the challenge?

I am ready.

Review That Review!

Okay, so today, I have a one star review from Dolores L.,

from

Yelp, this is for Barbazon, acting and modeling, and here we go.

Honestly, I was really excited and interested in this, but just wait.

Me and my mom got approached by an older guy in Walmart, telling us that there was an audition for Disney.

He said that it was a short line, I had to say, and that it was going to be at the Marriott Hotel.

He gave us an invitation that seemed legit.

The next day, I went there and about 25 kids there, we all went up and set our line.

After that, we walked down the stage and went to this table, and all they said was, If we like you, we will call you within the week.

About a week later, they gave us an address to an acting school.

We went there and waited a long time.

The girl came finally late, about an hour, and called us in and said, Sorry, her grandpa died, and she lost track of time.

Really, all a con.

She told me to stand in the corner, T H E E, And say my line, I did, parenthesis, Honestly, I did horrible, I was really nervous and still asleep, Oh, I forgot, there was another kid there waiting as well, I noticed her from the audition, Not to be mean, but she was not good at all, She looked down the whole time and whispered her line and wouldn't stop shaking her leg, They said that they only picked three out of everyone that was there.

Um, pretty weird.

Anyways, I was really bad in the audition in the corner, and she smiled really big, it kind of scared me, and clapped and said, amazing.

She told us the whole procedure, then told us the cost, 3, 000 for the whole six months.

My mom was willing to do whatever made me happy.

The girl told me I can pay now or in six months.

I was going to do the six months thing.

I told my friend about it.

She told me they came up to her about four years ago in a mall and told her and her sister the same thing.

They auditioned and everything.

They both made it.

Their cost was 10, 000 for both of them.

Their mom did it for them.

They went through with everything.

Then on the last part, the final audition with a bunch of agents in the front row, They both did it, and a bunch of agents went up to her sister, telling her that she was amazing, and told her they were going to call her within the week.

They never called her, and her mom wasted 10, 000 for nothing.

I thank God for my friend, because luckily, my mom didn't waste her money too.

All caps.

This is just a huge money hungry scam.

Don't go here, please.

And, it's also weird.

That, for all the reviews I've read, all the money prices is different.

Dolores, Dolores, Dolores, how old do we think Dolores is?

I think she's like 14,

maybe 13.

I think Dolores is an early teen.

Sorry, I had a really hard time reading that because it really is like, there's maybe five periods in this.

It's all run on sentences with no capitalizations.

But I something about my heart like breaks that Dolores is like trying to like Dolores is the Object of the scam.

And she's like, everyone be careful.

Yeah.

Dolores is looking out for Dolores guys.

I mean, I know it's not the most important thing about this review, but I just feel like Dolores is such an old name and I just feel like Dolores is the mom and then the daughter's writing on the mom's account

account and it coming up, Dolores.

Okay.

I mean, I know we'll still call her Dolores for the sake of this assessment, but so many things.

Mark, first off, what are your initial thoughts here?

Well, this is something I tell the parents about all the time.

This is like a very real scam that happens with a lot of different companies like this and John Robert Powers.

There used to be something called the Star Network and they're all like, Basically scams where they go up to people in malls.

They go to people at targets.

They say, do you want to be an actor?

There's this open Disney call where they say Disney call.

They'll post it.

You can go to their websites and then it's always at a hotel.

Okay.

Um, it's It's so shady.

And normally it's, geez, Delores, our friend saying there's only 25 kids.

There's normally like a hundred kids there.

I was going to say, I was shocked that it was so little.

Um, it was probably a bad day at Barbizon.

So they, um, you know, they, they give the kids like a commercial to read.

And then a lot of times what they do is they give them a set.

Sticker that says they're going into the next round that like you've made it past round one And they they make it feel like the whole time you're auditioning until they sit you down at the end to offer you bells and whistles and wagons and Santa and money and Fame and fortune and it only costs 1, 100.

Right, right, right.

But yeah, it's, it's the, you know, the famous bait and switch of, you know, selling, now you need the headshots.

Like, that would have been the start of it.

If they bought the 1, 000 package, forget it.

So,

but they're eliminating people, presumably,

right?

Or like, I don't think they're, they're not eliminating anyone.

Yeah,

I think they're telling you that to add the pressure.

Like, oh, we've only accepted three people and you're one of them.

But

they're really saying that to everybody.

Ah.

Correct.

That's so gross.

But like, you know, in a parent, they want to hear their kid's a star.

They want, and every parent thinks their kid is gorgeous and talented and has something special.

And then there are kids who actually do have talent and something special.

And they're sometimes paying casting directors, agents, things like that, to be at these events.

So they are legitimate.

They are getting in front of some of these people.

Yeah.

To what cost?

Yes.

Well, I was wondering about that because when they talked about the friend that had done it and the sister got in, and her got in front of all the agents and like, are those real agents at that point?

I think they tend

to be in the things that I have seen or like assistance or something.

And yeah, their assistance there, you know, and the chances are, even if someone's really talented, unless they're like really marketable, they're not going to get a call.

We used to do an industry showcase, a free showcase every year, and we'll do it again next fall, and we'd have like 300 kids audition.

We'd put 40 showcase kids in the showcase, and it was completely free to be in it.

They didn't have to pay anything.

Um, and we were doing that so that we could meet new kids.

We'd have like two or 300 new kids we met, but out of those 40 that we thought were really marketable, maybe 15 got callback.

So do you know what I mean?

It's like, even if you have it and you're great, it doesn't mean that an agent is looking for that.

They might already have that.

So it's, or they really just want really tiny kids.

Yeah.

Right.

Things like that.

It's interesting to me because I have a very close friend.

Who was an on staff improv teacher at Barbizon, so they actually do teach, but it is all inside of this huge financial commitment that's required, right?

But because Dolores Presumably young.

I mean, they were they were the one that was scouted, right?

It's an interesting perspective here because we have our own personal opinions of what Barbizon is, what this business model is.

But from Dolores's point of view on this review, do we think that The information is valuable.

Yeah.

Oh my God, yes.

'cause also think about if you're a parent, this is the other thing why it's so great that we have reviews in this way is if like you got approached at the mall, it's very googleable to find out.

Is this a real thing?

And I always tell parents at Briary Workshop, cause we have a lot of kids come from all over, all over the world, really, in the summer.

And the last day I do this whole thing about if you're ever asked to pay money to get an agent, that is a scam.

If it sounds too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

And if you have a question, email me and I will let you know.

So I do get emails randomly and like, Hey, I got stopped to do this thing.

I'm like, yeah, this is just a community theater.

They just want you in their show and it's a 200 fee to be in the show.

Like.

That's legit.

But if someone's like, I'm going to make you a star and it costs 800 a month, and I'm gonna put your picture in this book, because that was like a big thing in the eighties.

Oh, when I was a kid, sort of like coming up, um, it was Faces International was the big one.

Yeah.

And they had commercials.

Was that the one that was

like at like reproductions?

Like they would have like those books, I think, in the waiting rooms.

Yep.

And it was this huge book and you paid 250 or 500.

If you wanted to.

Full page and they said, this is where all the agents in casting, my dad took me in to Faces International and you meet with the model and they're like, your teeth are crooked.

Like you meet with all the people, but they're like, but for 500 you can have a quarter page in the book and they show you this big, beautiful book.

And then of course it all got blown up and Elliot Gould was on the commercials.

You guys have to

find a Faces International commercial.

Put it on the Patreon.

Oh yes.

I just think it's so sad.

There's something, you know, obviously there are acting programs that are out there that are taking advantage of, like, actors that are older, like myself, but there's something that's even more evil about using children and then a parent's love for the child just feels so gross to me.

She doesn't think she's very

good.

Oh, she knows.

She's like, I'm stuck.

I just was along for the ride.

I was

asleep.

I wanted to talk to you about that, Mark.

So like, do you think that it's possible to, to say like, I was really bad, like to know?

I think it's like a kid who's just doing it for fun.

Like, yeah, I was really bad.

Like they do the school play and they're like, Oh my God, it was so embarrassing.

It was like so bad.

I was great.

But they might feel like I feel like sometimes the kids that are like, Oh my God, I'm so bad end up being good because they like they care less.

And the kids that like really care and like really want to be great are really trying.

They just look Not natural and good, but if you're like on stage and you're like, this is ridiculous.

I'm really bad.

This is dumb.

Maybe that actually looks real.

So I wonder if Dolores is being a little bit harsh on herself here.

Well, like as much as they say they want like real kids, they don't.

Yeah, they want real kids.

That look real and are not annoying, but are good actors, , you know, like real kids, gritty real kids.

I'm like, yeah, but you need them to present well.

You don't actually want real kids.

So true.

Dolores seems to me like salt of the earth.

She's a real kid.

I'm sure she's working at a bank for sure.

Now.

It reminds me of how Audrey Hepburn famously said that every single day on set, she thought she was going to be fired.

But I don't think that that is Dolores relation.

What do you think this one line of dialogue that they had to act was?

It probably is like, my stomach always hurts.

But now with new children's Tylenol, my stomach feels great.

It's like it's always, it's always a problem and a solution.

My mom packs the worst lunch.

But now with new Lunchables, lunch is great every day.

It's like, someone's always bad at something and then they get real good at it.

Okay.

Back to Dolores.

Yeah.

Spelling grammar is atrocious.

I think that Dolores was on their mom's iPhone typing it in like, this is insane.

This girl, like she's really bad not to be mean.

And then I do think that Dolores is being truthful.

Because it sounds like, as Mark was alluding to, it doesn't sound like Dolores has a lot, a lot in the game here.

I think Dolores was like, this could be fun for Saturday.

And like, oh, but I'm like a bad actor.

So like, that this is bad.

And this is a lot of money.

So For that reason it sounds to me like Dolores is being very truthful.

Oh, I think Dolores is.

We could trust her.

I think we could trust her.

I just wonder like if we're writing this as an essay, Why the first point of con was that the grandfather was sick or had died?

Cuz that was like, that is a weird part.

Right?

Yeah, it says F.

Okay.

It says came finally late about an hour and called us in and said, sorry, her grandpa died and she lost track of time.

Really all a con.

Really all a con.

So like, why?

Like, why?

Like, is that the first piece of evidence?

Like, there's so many other,

because she doesn't believe that she was late because her grandfather died.

She thought she was BS.

Right?

That's

right.

She like came in, you know,

late with the Starbucks.

She's like,

right, yeah.

Dolores is like, I don't believe your grandmother died.

Died.

That's

not what mour a grandpa looks like.

I know.

I don't believe this.

I just thought that was so,

so humor on the review.

How do we feel?

I think it's incidentally humorous.

Yeah, yeah.

Anecdotal again.

I agree.

Yeah.

So ultimately, before we go into crowning.

What do you think, like, would you find this to be a deal breaker for you?

Like, if you were a parent?

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, I would too.

That's why I love that Dolores is, like, not an angry mom, But, like, someone that actually walked through the experience and was like, this is a scam.

Yeah, I mean, when I heard the name Dolores and One Star, I just assumed that this was gonna be a mother that was gonna be giving us a tirade, and I love that it was from the kid's perspective.

Yeah.

Alright, so I think I'm ready to crown out.

How do y'all feel?

I'm ready

to crown.

Yeah, sure.

Alright, on a scale from one to five crowns, we will simultaneously reveal our ratings.

The Queens are tabulating.

Total

score.

Oh my god, it's a three way, it's four crowns, four crowns, four crowns, Dolores, whoa, wow,

Dolores is a little queen, I agree, I want to honor, I want to honor Dolores, because maybe she is a star, and we're just finding it out here on Review That Review.

I want to see Dolores.

I want to see if she is really bad because I have a feeling she's not.

What if I like found

Dolores and made her a star?

I think you should make Dolores a star.

She's like, now I'm in the non equity tour of Anastasia.

Right, literally.

So I said four crowns because ultimately I feel like Delores really led from a protective heart.

And while they didn't really do any autocorrect, they really didn't do any grammar.

There was a huge punch to Delores's review.

And, but I got to take the one crown off because, uh, it, it, it, She needs to work on her grammar lessons, I think.

But, um, that's why I said four, because I would not want to take any of my loved ones here.

What about you, Chelsey?

Why did you say four?

I really love Dolores.

I mean, when I was a kid, I was like a chubby kid.

So I was never the one that was approached by any of these people.

And I was always like, a little bit jealous.

I wanted to be approached in the mall or the Walmart, and I wasn't.

And I feel like Dolores really took me through that whole process.

Like I could now write a lifetime movie.

About the process of being recruited based off what Dolores said, and I think it's a real cautionary tale.

I love the fact that it's from the kids perspective.

I think any parent reading this would be immediately alarmed and turn the other way.

I took off the crown for, you know, spelling and grammar and the fact that she called him to question the grandpa, which I don't know why we're getting the grandpa involved.

So other than that, I thought that Dolores was a real queen and four crowns to Dolores.

And what about you, Mark?

Why'd

you say four?

I feel like any kid who's taking pen to paper, or in this case, finger to iPhone, you know, deserves a little something special.

Because kids are not, I think kids should review everything.

Agree.

Amazing.

Let's take a quick break.

And when we return, Mark has agreed to share a review that he himself has received.

Wow.

Ooh, I can't wait for that.

All right.

We'll be right back.

Hold

your crown.

We'll be right back.

All right, we are back.

And now it's time to get a little more personal.

Mark, we asked you to bring a personal review in with you today that was either a harsh critic or an MVR, most valuable reviewer,

basically a negative or a positive review.

So we will together Assess That Kvetch!

And then just like before, Mark, we will ask you to share with us what the personal impact of this review was on you.

So Mark, what review did you bring in for us today?

So I picked a review from Alison Brooks Admonson, who is a mom of a kid that I've worked with in Kentucky doing one of our camps on tour.

And then she also sent her daughter to New York to do multiple camps with us.

Wow.

And it just was a nice review and it was the first thing that popped out it's from august 25th 2020 and as i mentioned i don't have negative reviews but it's not because people don't like me wait it's not because people don't hate me plenty of people hate me but um they just haven't taken to the internet

with

it yet

i hope that this is not an invitation

Yeah, no, it's not.

No, please don't write nasty reviews about me.

Don't do it.

Don't you dare.

All right, so Chelsey is going to read it.

I'm so excited.

Yes, I will read this Facebook review from Alison Brooks Adamson for Broadway Workshop.

I cannot say enough good things about Broadway Workshop.

For one, Mark Tuminelli is a legend.

He is so down to earth and makes the kids feel like they have known him forever.

He understands that many students come to workshop full of anxiety.

His warm and friendly personality puts them at ease immediately.

He is such an encourager.

Mark's guest teachers are also amazing.

In six years of attending Broadway Workshop Camps, not once have we ever been disappointed in the quality of staff.

From Camp Kentucky to NYC Workshops, he brings the best of Broadway wherever he goes.

That's so sweet, isn't it?

That's so nice.

I love that.

I just think there's so many great things in this review that if I were like a parent or maybe even a kid that was reading this review, that would make me like feel better.

Like I love that Allison addressed the anxiety because, you know, especially when I was a younger actor, I was very anxious and I was always worried that my teachers were going to be judging me or, you know, that I was going to have to like show up in a certain way.

Yeah, I actually, it's.

It is interesting in contrast with Dolores review because I felt that there was so much unknown with Dolores and what comes across from Allison's review here is that the experience is very positive.

It's very encouraging.

And the whole idea of anxiety, I feel like any, there's, I mean, there's so much anxiety that comes around performance, getting in front of people, sharing something about yourself.

And Alison really speaks to how Broadway Workshop cultivates an air of let's all have fun together.

Yeah, I love this review.

I think it's very valuable.

I also believe Allison.

It seems like they're very invested in the product.

Yeah, no, it's very sweet because our program in Kentucky is me going to Kentucky with like four other, you know, teaching artists and doing a week long intensive.

And, you know, it's kids that don't Are not doing this constantly.

So it's a very different approach.

It's a very different way of the way the workshops work.

It's all very different.

And so for a kid to, and it's very elevated for what they might be getting locally, even though there's a lot of really good training there.

Um, and it feels like they're nervous because they're going to do a theater camp with people that they've never met before, at least.

And I, and I, I believe they have been with us from our very first year there, so they were trying a new thing, and here we were coming in, and every year I brought different, you know, guest artists to Paducah, Kentucky to teach, and it was really fun, and then some of those kids kind of banded together, like, we're gonna go to New York and do the summer camp there, we're gonna do We're going to fly in for the weekend, like, you know, obviously different families have different financial situations that allow them to come to New York and do other things.

But for a lot of these kids, like that'll be it.

They'll do probably workshop and 99.

9 percent of them are going to go to college for something else.

And we just have this little week together, there's five days together.

And that is, it's a really special thing to be part of, uh, some artistic excellence in a young person's journey, especially if they're not going to do this for the rest of their life.

It's as exciting to me as the kids that decide that they want to move to New York and be actors, which

is kind of cool.

There's so many things that she says that I think are helpful for a parent that are deciding whether or not they want to send their child here.

I love the fact that they've returned for six years.

That makes me feel like they're really genuine, like really makes me trust Alice and BA.

Yeah, that's a really great point.

I think, like, the repetition of the relationship here speaks volumes, honestly.

Yeah, and that, like, if we're doing six years and they've never been disappointed in the quality of the staff, then that's a really good case study, you know?

For sure.

Yeah, I love that.

The only thing like the only sort of, um, criticism I have here, maybe for Allison is like, I'm not having a lot of humor in the review.

No, I'm not like bowled over.

But what

occurs to me is when, when we're talking about someone's children.

Yeah, that's not often

like, you know, it's not like, this is not like my daughter

walked in unclear what sheet music was.

Exactly.

Yeah.

We don't have a lot of funny reviews.

But that's interesting as a review queen, because I don't even know if it's really a part of the tabulation necessarily.

Yeah.

I don't know if it comes into play here.

I'm just looking at other reviews and none of them are funny.

Yeah, I don't think they need to be.

Another thing that I liked about Allison BA was I know that we've talked about you working with kids all over the country, but I didn't know that you had this camp in Kentucky.

And so I think that that would be interesting to me if I was from somewhere outside of New York City.

Maybe I would then go ahead and look and see, you know, does Mark ever come to my city?

For sure.

Yeah.

I mean, Mark, is there anything else you want to add to this before we crown it?

No, it's so weird to be like, I'm amazing.

Do you guys listen to this amazing review?

I would have loved you brought A really negative review and told you the backstory.

Right.

But I just didn't have that, sadly.

Well, no, I'm glad I don't have that.

But no, it's really nice.

It's really, this is like for anyone listening, the things you love and the, especially the small businesses and that's the things that I tend to, there's like a new sandwich shop on ninth Avenue.

I just wrote a five star Google review.

Because it's like the best chicken salad sandwich I've ever had, and I'm so worried they're going to close.

But that's like the thing.

If you find like a small business that you know who owns it, you know, it's not the Cheesecake Factory at the Westbury Mall.

They don't need your review, right?

But like these small businesses really rely on someone saying, or like a mom and pop or hotel, or they really rely on people being able to go to Google.

Go to Yelp, go to whatever, their Facebook, and see some positive things.

So, if anything I could say, the review means a lot to me.

Like all, all of the reviews do because I own my own little business and it really helps other parents make decisions.

And I try to pay that back wherever I can, especially with small businesses that I, I love and that I care about.

It really is a perfect example of the power.

That we possess as consumers,

and we have a lot of what we'll call cheater brands that have popped up, especially during the last couple years, where, um, there are people that are doing identical businesses to Broadway workshop.

Wow.

But when I started b Broadway workshop.

It was like me and one other program.

It was not right.

This thing did not exist that everyone had an acting school.

So, you know, I encourage parents to look at a legacy of a program.

Yes.

Has this been around two years?

Has it been around 15 years?

Right.

Has this program made students You know, stars, has this program made students great college students?

Where has this program been a place where kids could feel safe and just have their weekend activity?

Wherever you're looking, whether it be a dance school or an acting school or whatever, Look at, you know, the legacy of the school and who's running it and how involved they are.

You know, there are other programs like mine where it's like, That person does not have anything to do with this.

Right, right.

I mean, I like that.

You brought that up, Mark, because your group is called Broadway Workshop, obviously, or your page, rather.

It's a good URL.

Yeah, it's a great URL.

But we trust Allison BA because immediately after she says Broadway Workshop, she goes right into, for one, Mark Tuminelli is a legend.

And now automatically, I know that there's a human being behind this organization.

That's probably why I like it so much.

Also like that it isn't like it doesn't sound ego y because it isn't the Mark Tuminelli School of Drama, Acting, Modeling, Success.

It's, you know, like there's something that I think you should, um, I feel like I could crown this, but

I can crown it.

Let's crown it.

All right.

Let's do it.

The Queens are tabulating.

Total

Score.

Oh my god, we did it again!

Four and a half crowns, four and a half crowns!

Love it.

I did four and a half crowns.

I love this review from Allison BA.

It takes a little bit of extra special sauce to make a full Review Queen, but if I felt like I was missing one thing from this review, I think it would be a little bit more of a detail about Allison's kid and like what it was that the kid's goal was over the course of the six years and maybe like a little bit of a Personal anecdote about that relationship.

But other than that, real perfection.

How about you, Trey?

What do you think?

It's

interesting because I had a similar thought.

I'm just sort of removing humor completely because I don't think it's applicable.

But, but I, I don't find that I feel this way often, but I would love a little bit of humor.

Dash more detail about the specific programming that Allison's child Yes.

Was taking.

It's, yeah, it's a nice general review.

Yes, I definitely, yes.

Get the, the positive sense of the impact for six years, which is huge.

So that's why I said four and a half.

It's so close to being found,

and I love, shout out Nadia Adamson, who's the daughter of Allison.

Aw.

Who's a gr just a great kid and I love her so much.

She's just like a, a ray of sunshine.

Aw.

Oh, Nadia.

Well, Mark, thank you for sharing that review with us.

Anytime.

Alright, we are reaching towards the end of the episode, but before we complete, Mark, it's time for us to get very serious and crank up the heat.

Yeah, can you take it, Mark?

Are you ready?

You know I am.

So, Mark, we've got some serious questions for you.

All right, Mark, it's time for some strong opinions.

We want to hear your first gut reaction answer.

There is no wrong answer, just your immediate response.

Chelsey and I will alternate pulling questions out of our respective Kvetcher hats.

Guys, you have so much cool stuff.

And we're

going to put 30 seconds on the clock and you, Mark, will try to answer as many as you can get through in 30 seconds, okay?

All right.

Three,

two,

one.

Okay, Mark,

toilet paper under or over?

Over.

Mark, if you got food poisoning from a restaurant, would you go back?

No, is cereal soup?

No, what does green taste like?

Uh, mint, how do you pronounce G I F?

Jif, would you see a doctor with a four star rating?

Yes, Sophie's Choice, Clueless or Mean Girls?

Clueless,

Vacationing, TripAdvisor or Yelp?

TripAdvisor, iPhone or Android, Not a psychopath,

That was a

lot,

I could have done more, you guys just needed to say it faster,

Should we, let's each ask one more, because I love these questions,

This is fun,

Free tattoo from a three star tattoo shop, yes or no,

no

no top sheet or no top sheet, no top sheet, Agree.

Thank you.

What would your most recent ex rate you?

10 out of 10, baby.

Okay.

A person with elite reviewer status is that a turn on or turn off?

On.

Turn

on, daddy.

Have you ever asked to speak with the manager?

Yes.

Is a hot dog a sandwich?

No, absolutely not.

If animals could talk, which would be the rudest?

My, my dog

that is sleeping right here.

He's such a grumble Gus.

Okay, what is more trustworthy?

Something that has only one star reviews or something that has only five star reviews?

The one star review, I think.

Right?

Right?

These are great.

You know, we do something like this on my podcast, but everyone takes nine hours to answer the question.

I'll be like, favorite place to go on vacation.

Well, maybe we'll make it a little longer than 30 seconds.

Yeah, I mean, because we want to limit the time because there's something about that clock that really just makes you love it.

I should start a clock.

That's what I'm gonna do.

Can I steal

it from you guys?

Please.

Please.

Okay.

Well, you know, Mark.

We are very thrilled to share with you that you've proven yourself to be a certifiable queen.

And I just thought it was a regular queen before all of this.

Welcome

to the queendom.

So

here we are, Mark, we have reached the most regal portion of our show.

Is there someone that you find to be deserving of five stars that you would like to induct today for

My Royal Highness?

Oh yes.

Are you ready?

Yes.

Yes.

It's television great.

Robert Stack, who you might remember from Unsolved Mysteries.

This was that, um, um, podcast that you and I never started.

Correct.

I love Unsolved Mysteries so much.

The original show that aired through the late 80s through the 90s.

There are 12 seasons of it.

I have watched them and rewatched them.

They never get boring to me.

And Robert Stack is a gift.

He is truly the most terrifying human being that ever walked the face of the earth.

And he just is walking and talking to the camera saying things a little bit wrong and it is just pure magic to spend time with him and I I gotta tell you wherever he is right now.

He's looking down and going mark.

Thank you for keeping my love alive

I love that.

I

just re watched all of season 12 yesterday.

Oh my what what year was this?

That's like 91 He's also in the movie airplane, which is the funniest movie of all time.

So we know this man is like Terrifying but also a comic genius.

I don't know the Untouchables well, but Unsolved Mysteries, Robert Stack, uh, gets my, he's my Royal Highness.

Honestly, Robert Stack's voice, any time I hear it, it's like an instant Trapdoor to being in my childhood home and being terrified.

I can hear his narration and it instantly scares me.

His voice is so

scary.

He also is the beginning of the internet and he goes check out www.

unsolved.

com But it's W W W W.

Oh my god.

Great

job.

Thank you.

Yes.

Mark.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

It's been an honor.

Thank you for having me.

What a dream.

Congratulations on your fabulous podcast.

Tell all of the listeners where they can find you.

Well, go ahead and follow me at Mark Tuminelli on Instagram, but also check out my podcast at Little Me Podcast on Instagram.

Also rate, subscribe, download.

I don't really care if you listen to it.

Just rate, subscribe, download.

Maybe write a five star review.

Yes, um, and you can also see what's happening at Broadway Workshop at BroadwayWorkshop.

com and you can follow us on Instagram at Broadway Workshop.

But those are the big ones, me, Little Me and Broadway Workshop.

And some of my favorite recent episodes of Little Me Growing Up Broadway include guests Liam Michelle from Glee, International Pop Sensation.

Debbie Gibson.

Stop it.

Just

can't

shake your love, Chelsea.

Debbie Gibson was my first concert ever.

I'm obsessed with Debbie Gibson.

I hugged Debbie Gibson at like four years old backstage.

It's a thing we got to talk about in the after show.

Oh, my God.

And go ahead.

Listen to my episode with her.

It's a scream.

I'm a huge fan.

So it was really like a dream to get to talk.

We'll dig deep into that in the after show for sure.

But Mark has crazy A list guests on his podcast.

He's in a bit.

An amazing interviewer, so check it out.

Yeah, that's very sweet.

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