Welcome to the latest episode of "The Masterful Coach" podcast, where Molly Claire, an experienced life coach, delves into key insights to help female coaches enhance their coaching prowess and create a thriving coaching business. In this episode, Molly and her guest, Sarah Walton, explore the concept of over-functioning and codependence among women, discussing societal expectations, the invisible emotional load carried by women, and the need for recognition and support. Stay tuned to gain valuable perspectives on how to navigate these challenges and uplift women in coaching and beyond.

For the full show notes, go to: https://www.mollyclaire.com/blog/what-female-biz-owners-need-the-care-gap-solution-with-sarah-walton

Key Points

00:00 Interview with Sarah Walton about women's care gap.

06:22 Teen sacrifices dream to support struggling family.

10:13 Embracing wealth leads to positive action and impact.

15:27 Society's expectations of gender roles and emotions.

16:57 Supporting women, breaking expectations, and lifting each other.

24:32 Reflection on societal expectations for women discussed.

27:08 Importance of checking on "strong" friends

29:41 Women don't have to choose between work and family.

32:05 Practice managing household as training for business.

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Welcome to the Masterful Coach podcast with Molly Claire. If

you're a coach who's ready to impact more lives, make more money,

and create a life you love, you're in exactly the right

place. Get the support you deserve as a female

entrepreneur, master your coaching skills, grow your

ideal business, and honor your priorities in your personal

life. Are you in? Let's get started with your

host, bestselling author and master life and business

coach, Molly Claire.

Hey, coaches. Today's interview with Sarah Walton of Game

on Girlfriend is such an important topic. We

are talking about the care gap among women and we're

talking about how this impacts how much

you as a female business owner

are making in your business. It affects the

extent to which you are burned out, stressed out,

overworked, and maybe even struggling to meet

your goals and create more ease in your life. This is such

an important topic. And by the way, you're going to love Sarah. I

connected with Sarah because we thought we would be a great fit to go on

each other's podcasts. And isn't it so fun when you

connect with someone and realize maybe perhaps you

were meant to be business BFF's? So

Sarah is amazing. This is such a great episode. I know you're going to love

it. I want to let you all know that enrollment for Master Coach

Training is open. We are finalizing enrollment this week.

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starting in September. So again, if you want to be a part of continued education

calls this summer, do not delay. We are finalizing

that. All right, coaches, get ready for

an awesome interview. All right, coaches, so I

have Sarah Walton here of the Game

on Girlfriend podcast and more. Hello, Sarah.

Welcome. Molly. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so

happy to be here. So happy. We had so much fun

when you interviewed me that we just, we had to do it again.

So maybe we'll just keep going back and forth, and our audience

will just hear the two of us. I'm so game for that. Let's do it.

I'm in. Okay, so, Sarah, tell

my audience, what do you do and why do you love it?

Well, I know we don't have all the time in the world, but the bottom

line is, my motto is that I put more money in the hands of more

women, and I do that through business slash life

coaching. I really do deep dive onto our relationship to

money, and I talk a lot about our pricing and what we're

offering the world and why that's what we're choosing to offer the world and really

creating not just a sense of purpose, because I don't believe in.

I believe, you know... What was that? You don't believe in what? The purpose.

Right. Like, the big in lights. Here's my purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,

this is the purpose. Yeah. It's like, in this moment,

I really feel this urge to, like, text my old friend Joe from accounting. I

don't know, like, being in that. And then you make his day, or he introduces

you to someone who needs your help. Like, that's what we all do on

purpose all the time. And I think that's so important. And I

do this, and this is so critical to me as a human

because I was raised in an incredibly poor environment.

I look back on it now. I don't. Well, if you've ever had that experience

where you're like, "I'm sorry, you did what when you raised me, now?" But, like,

we had no money. I was raised with a single mother, and my younger

half brother was was living with us. And, I mean, there

were times we would have, you know, like, half a loaf of

bread and a jar of honey at- The end. No mustard, no

cat- Like, that was it. And when I

wanted to join the dance team when I was 16, because where I was raised,

there wasn't much else to do, so. So I did. And, um, you know, I

made the team, which was exciting. I learned dance from watching Paula Abdul and

Janet Jackson in the basement. Yes. I'm that old. Oh, my gosh, the

best. I could throw a chair with the best of them, like, get out the

way. I can dance with cartoon characters. Yeah, it was kind of like that. And

I. You know, I just wanted to dance so badly. And once I made the

team, which was amazing, I worked so hard to get on that team,

is, you know, they send the letter with, like, how much it's going to

cost. And I don't know if you've ever had one of those moments where you

have, like, an out of body experience and you watch yourself go through something,

but that's what that was like, I like, remember my mouth went dry, my

hands got sweaty, my stomach dropped through the floor, and it was like, I

can't do this. This is something I've wanted to do since I was five. I

cannot do this. What I did is I went and got a job at the

mall. It was the eighties. It was cool. If you don't know what a mall

is, just think Stranger Things. And anyway, so I got a job at, like, a

little kiosk in the mall, and I'm so super excited. And I went to go

cash my check, and at the time, I didn't have a bank account, but you

could, like, cash checks at grocery stores. This was a thing. They had a service

desk, and they actually, you know, served people. This was nice.

So I walked in with my little check in my hand, and as we're walking

in, my mom said, "Sarah, the strawberries are on sale. Can we get some?"

So I'm thinking of my costume, right, that I've wanted since I was

five. I'm thinking costume, I'm thinking of the strawberries, and I'm like, I

can do both. This is amazing. So I said, go get the strawberries. I

went to go get my check cash. I now have the money in hand. And

I go to find my mom in the express checkout, and she's not there. And

I'm looking up and down and up and down, and

I find her in line with a cart full of groceries. And

in that cart is, like, lunch meats and bread for my brother's

lunches, you know, his favorite breakfast cereal, some milk, the damn strawberries,

right? And I'm standing there and I'm like, I can pay

for these groceries, or I can pay for something I wanted my whole life,

but I can't do both. And that was the day I decided

I can take care of my family or I can take care of myself. And

I know that's what I decided as I was only 16, but I made that

very clear decision all the way up to follow me. I'm the only woman in

my family. I have 65 cousins. I'm the only one in my family to have

gotten a college degree. I moved to New York City. I now have this killer

job. I've got this gorgeous glass corner office. I'm sick

all the time I never see my children, I'm totally miserable. But guess what?

My family's being taken care of because I decided I could only do one or

the other. Yes. That was the day in my office when I

was hearing the clock tick in my little office, like, ticking away the seconds of

my life, right? I'm like, oh, my God. I decided this- It was

like this really wild moment in the middle of New York City. I'm like,

I did this. Wait a minute. But if I did this, I can undo it.

And as I was building that career all this time, I would

walk into business meeting after business meeting, you know, talking about

morale, talking about ethics, talking about the work environment, talking about financial

projections. And I was like, why am I the only woman in this

room? This is like fourth grade math. Oh, and by the way,

ethics and morale and company environment. Like, we kill

at this. Why am I the only one in here? And at that

moment, I got up and quit. To be honest, there's, like, a Sarah shaped hole

in the wall where I ran away. But I, like, took all of that knowledge

I had, and I was like, I'm going to teach this to every freaking woman

who will listen to me. Because we need to know how to do this. Because

we need more money in the hands of more women. Because when there's

more money in the hands of women, we do awesome stuff. Nothing

bad has ever happened when women have more money. We don't like to just the

tips base. We don't do any of that stuff. We take care

of other people. And I, you know, I watch us drop bombs

within inches of where we want them to go. You cannot tell me we

can't turn that into food, water, and medicine. And if we had women making these

decisions, it would be food, water, and medicine, because we don't bomb each other's

children. And that's. You ask me why I do what I

do. That's why I do what I do. This is the

best introduction to a podcast ever. I mean,

really seriously, because it's like. I mean, I

just appreciate so much you sharing that,

because it's, it's very true

that across the board, I come, I come up against this all

the time with my clients. I know I experienced this. Like,

you can't have both. I can either make money or I can take care of

my family. I can't have both. And I love that you had

the wisdom and the insight to realize that there was a moment that

you really solidified that belief for you and decided it didn't

have to be true. It's true. And, you know, one of the things

that, that I'm always encouraging as

a mindset for women that have these seemingly

competing areas of their life is thinking about, what

if, you know, your family life and

your financial career life are in cooperation

together, they're in cooperation of creating what you

ultimately want for your experience of life rather than in competition.

Right. Because it's really true. They are two

pieces of the bigger picture of what we want our life to be like.

Right. Yeah. And as you were talking, I just, I love everything

you said because that's the other thing I just want to pause

and highlight that I hear all the time, especially with the women I work with

who are coaches, because they're the helpers, they're the do gooders,

and we have all of these crazy things mixed up with money. Like, we

shouldn't want so much, we shouldn't charge so much, we shouldn't have so much. And

it's like, no. Like, when I have more money,

I do better things. And

by the way, when I am not worried about

money, how much energy do I have? I mean,

like, give to all the best causes. So, I

just, there are so many things about this that I love, and

Yeah. So I just. I appreciate you sharing that as a reminder to everyone.

Yeah. I'm just going to drop one quick thing in there, too. If women are

afraid to charge money and women don't make what they're worth, who benefits from

that? So, one of my favorite questions to ask is, like, where did we learn

that? And who's benefiting from us thinking that that's real?

Yes. Just saying.

Yeah, I'm gonna like for everybody to do alone. I know. I'm just.

That's why I'm being quiet. I'm like, the space I'm making is like,

let that question in. Let's just let it be there.

Yeah. Okay. So, having given that a

minute today, as we were talking

before we started recording this episode for all of you, we

decided to talk about something very relevant to

this and yet, like, a little bit, in a way, a sidestep from

the money piece. But this piece that, if not

addressed, it's like, it goes back to that war between,

right, the money and being able to take care of everyone.

So, tell us. Tell my audience about

the care gap. Hmm. Just

like, if I was a cartoon character, like, the smoke would come out of my

ears right now. Like, this is the one where I'm like, ooga. Okay, so

the care gap is the gap between men and women, as

right as we're, ws we're right now in 2024. But the gap between men and

women, as far as who's picking up the care,

the care being the care of children, the care of a house,

the care of pets, the administrative tasks that go along with running a

home, the mental, physical, and emotional load of running

life. That's what I call the care gap.

And the gap is that women pick it up. Is- I mean, and I'm being

very general, and I understand that. And there's always an outlier. So people want to

be angry and email me that. I got you. I hear you 100%. Um, and

I am speaking generally, but even then, it still tends to

be not even. Even if a man has chosen to pause his career to. To

fill the care gap. Awesome. It's still usually not quite equal.

And part of this is, honestly, it's kind of cool, is physiological.

And I'm sharing this just because it's important for us to know. So if you

were born into a female body, we have more connective tissue

in between the right and left hemispheres of our brain, which is just

wild, but that allows us to cross pollinate, like,

back and forth. People born into male bodies have less

connective tissue, and that's why I always do this joke. I love this. I have.

I love men. Please don't hear this incorrectly. I love men. I have five brothers,

have a son. Love men. But if you've ever asked a man to do something

while they're watching tv, right? And they're like, but I'm watching tv. And

you're like, oh, my dear God. I'm carrying the baby. I'm taking out the trash,

and I just took the dog for a walk. Could you please get- And you're

like, I don't. And they're like, but I'm watching tv. Not trying to be a

jerk. Their brains are wired to do one thing at a time, which, by

the way, thank God, because we need that on the planet, right? Like,

that's awesome. And our ability to be

like, I'm grabbing my phone. For those of you who can't see, it's like you're

talking phone. Yeah. Could you get that? Did you get the chicken out? Yeah. Great.

No, send that email later. Right. Meanwhile, we're doing all of that and walking and

sent a text. Right. We just do that. And we do that well, but that's

what has us pick up that care gap, because we can see it. We're

really good at it. And we just do it. But

it's kind of by design. And that design, I'm going to

use a phrase I did not coin. It's by, oh, my gosh, her name just

flew out of my head. Her first name is Terry, and she wrote a really

great book called the Boundary Boss, and she is a

therapist in New York City. And in that book, she coins the phrase.

It's called high functioning codependence. I know. I

see that every time I say that. Every woman goes, I have that. I'm like,

I haven't defined it yet. They're like, yes, but I have it. We

talk a lot about over functioning. And when we're talking

about relationships, when we're, we're talking about, okay,

let's focus on how you're helping your clients and their relationships. Over

functioning is a huge problem. It is. It is.

Yeah. And we are, by nature, high functioners. Yes.

But the co dependence piece is a little bit more

insidious. And I really love how this is talked about

in Glennon Doyle's book. Untamed is so great. Where she

really talks about how women refer to each other as

selfless. Oh, she's so selfless. And that's a good thing.

Woman has no self. Let's reward that and talk about how great she is.

Right. And before these books were written, I would say to people,

like, isn't it amazing when a dad comes to help out with

lunch or help out with some school activity? Everybody's like, oh, my God, you're so

amazing. You're so great. And you're standing there going, dude, I've been here every day

for three months, right? That's all this is dealing with the

care gap, but it's also dealing with the way society is set up. And that

from a very young age, we hear as females, right,

that we hear this, like, don't cry, where's my

pretty girl? You should smile more. All those things that we hear,

even as a young girl, what you learn is, my

emotions are bothering somebody. I shouldn't have them.

And that message is, your emotions are bothering me. Please stop.

And so we learn to tuck them away. And the more we

tuck them away, the more we're rewarded. She's amazing. She's killing it.

Have you seen her? She looks amazing. She runs around and you're dying inside.

Yes. And one I always heard was, oh, Molly,

she's so responsible. That's what I realized. And

it seems so good, right? Like a compliment. She's so responsible. And then,

like, as I untangle all this. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like,

she's so responsible. How can I be more responsible? I'm like, no wonder that I

end up being overly responsible in, like, not healthy

ways, right? Yep. Because you get rewarded. That's the codependence

piece. Yes. So we're naturally high functioning, and then it's like, oh, that's

helping all of society keep up that invisible, unpaid work. Please. It

makes everybody's life great. And please don't have emotions while you do it. Yeah. And

so we go, okay. And it's really, we as women,

really, I think it's so important we have these conversations because we need to support

each other in breaking these invisible expectations. Right.

I'm just sort of being like, are you okay? And watch, when you ask a

mom that, are you okay? They're like, well, my kids are this, my- It's like,

no, are you okay?And it sometimes, because we're so

selfless, it can take us a hot second to get back to,

am I okay? Like, you can watch people, like, 'did you pee today?' and they're

like, 'uh, I don't know.' You know, so really helping

each other and not judging each other when that happens, but really

to lift any shame off of that, to lift that up as high

as we can, I just be like, dude, I got you. I see you. I

know. And you know what? Let's together figure out how we stop

this. Don't take out the trash tonight. Ask someone else to do that. I stopped

doing my children's laundry when they turned six. They are responsible for their own.

Like, there's. We don't have to do this this way. And that actually

serves other people when we don't. Yeah. And as you were talking, I was

thinking, like, I want to back up a little bit because I know you said

you're talking in generalities, and for sure, there are

outliers, and that's amazing. And they are the

outliers. I do want to emphasize that because this isn't just, like, something

that we're making up. Right? Yeah. Statistics show

that women, even in dual

income households, in households where the woman is making more of the

money, she is still carrying more of the load. And I don't know what

the latest statistic is on that, but, I mean, it's, it's

not something that we're just making up. So, yes, there are outliers,

thank goodness. Hopefully that will become more than norm. But generally

speaking, this is true. And the other thing I really want to highlight and

all of my listeners those of you that are women, I want you to hear

this, that these extra things

that you are taking on, it's not

just the things. It's not just the load of

laundry or the dishes. It's not things that are necessarily

quantifiable. But there is this whole space of

this invisible load that, you know, Sarah

mentioned that mental and emotional. I know. One of the things that they say

is, like, even in the workplace, the women are the ones doing

the activities that are connecting people, that

are bringing, like, hey, let's help support this good cause. So

I think there are so many emotional needs and things women

are carrying that aren't tangible. And I want you to all remember that, that if

you are tired and overwhelmed, there's probably a good

reason. There probably. There's nothing wrong with you. You're not

lazy. You're doing enough. All that stuff. Yeah. It's so funny,

Molly. You're just reminding my son's about to go to college. Insert tears here. So

I was just saying to him, because Mother's Day, right? And I was like, you

have to understand the mental load of running a household. And they look like me

like I had three heads, right? But I'm not going to raise somebody who's not

going to know this is happening and affect it and jump in. He said, what

do you mean? I said, do you know if the dog's been fed? It's like,

no. I said, do you know when his next vet appointment is? He's like, no.

I said, do you know when your next doctor appointment? He's like, no. I said,

do you know if the trash has been taken out? He's like, no. I go,

what are we going to have for dinner? He's like, I don't know. I go,

do you know if there's grocery shopping been done? He's like, no. I'm like, do

you have electric bills been paid? He was like, his. I just saw his, like,

brain explode. I said, that's there's no blame. This is what it

takes to run a household. And I just want you to understand,

if you're not thinking of those things, someone else is.

Someone else is. That's right. Yeah, that's right. And so it was such a

beautiful conversation, especially to have on Mother's Day, right? Cause I was

like, you gotta understand why we have Mother's Day. And

I was kind of strict with my children on Mother's Day

this year, where I said, if there's any mom in your life, you need to

text today to say, Happy Mother's Day. It doesn't have to be your mom. And

they kind of, like I said, who's driven you somewhere? Who brought a snack during

a practice? Who's taking you home when there was an extra test? Like, who's

taking you early to address rehearsal or a choir rehearsal? Like, all

these things. There are moms who are doing invisible, unpaid work in your life as

well, and you need to recognize that they've made your life better.

Like, oh, my gosh. And then I got a text from my son's girlfriend a

few minutes later, so I think they shared the news. Good, good. And

those of you listening, that may not be moms as well. Women

who are not moms are not exempt from from doing all of these kinds

of activities. Absolutely right. 100%. Way to

go. Yes. You know, as you were talking, I was thinking,

too, just like last week in our in Master Coach

Training, this- that we have a module all about

motherhood, parenting, family life. And we

talk so much about these things. And one of the questions that we

discussed last week or a couple weeks ago

was asking women, asking their clients, these

moms, who they believe they are in relation

to others. Right. And then who are they

separate from that? Because that's a very hard question to answer. And when you were

talking, that's what made me think of it as, like you say, how are you

doing? Right? And we start talking about everyone else, but, like, where is

the woman in this. In this

chaotic mess of everyone else's needs and emotions? Right.

We gotta find her in there. Yes. A hundred percent.

100%. I really appreciate you saying that. That is such a good question, too.

Yeah, yeah. So important we think about those things and support each

other in thinking about them, too. Right. If you got a friend who's, like, running

around, like, spinning out is like, okay, where. Hi. You know, I mean, like,

really being there for each other, because we've all been set up for this.

Yes, yes. Right? I mean, you know, the second you see that, you

know, school gets out at three and most jobs don't get out till five, someone's

being set up to fail somewhere. Right. The whole system is set

up to not have some people succeed. It's not possible. So what are we going

to do about that collectively? How can we support each other collectively through that?

Yeah. And the other thing I wanted to highlight that you said even, you know,

in your conversation with your son, like, if you're not thinking about

these things, know that someone else is. And one

thing I want to mention about that is, is this,

this opens the door to this idea that

if we are over functioning, if

we are taking all of these things on, we don't leave

a need for anyone else to think about it. Right? Correct.

And so I think this is where part of what we can

do is to advocate for some of our needs, to

ask for more help, to acknowledge

that maybe we shouldn't

be doing it all, right? Because I think it's, when we,

it's like if we're always filling the gaps, then there's no gap to be filled.

No one's going to see it. So. Yeah, I think that's right. And it does.

It does a disservice to everyone. Right. And we do. We see it in kids

in college all the time. Right. They're like, what? What? How do I. What?

And I don't think we ever want to send our children out into the world

that way. I think it's important for them, for spouses and to see the gender

roles aren't real. Right. We can, anybody can do these are not

gender specific jobs. Like, anybody can do these jobs and supporting us

in believing that, too. Right. Because, I mean, I don't know about you. When I

became a mom, I want to be the best mom ever. Right. Which meant, like,

killing myself. Right? Yes. Yeah. And

it took me a long time to undo that. And this is my job, and

it took me a long time to undo that. Right. Like, we all really want

to just be there for each other and drop any of that shame or judgment

stuff because it's just not useful and it's so damaging. And we're all in the

same game. Yeah. We're all. Yeah. You know what? And I want to mention one

other question that I thought was so good. So we had Lindsey

Pullman. She's a coach that works in my program as well, and she

was talking about societal conditioning and what

we learn about ourselves as women. And we're in there, and

we're like, it was just this amazing discussion. I actually was, I was listening to

the replay, so I was, like, listening, and I'm like, oh, I wish I would

have been there. I'm hearing all this, right? And one of the questions that

she asked is just for us to think about, you know,

what does it mean to you when you think about

what's expected of you as a woman? And I remember when

she said this, and I think this would be a question, you know, for all

of you listening to think about, what is it? What do

you think when you think about what's expected of you as a woman. And I

can say for me, my answer to that was

everything. Like, that was immediately what came to me. And I

just felt all over, like, in my body. The sense of holding it

all together, taking care of everything, taking care of everyone.

And I think that's a lot of women's experience

and maybe it doesn't have to be quite that way. Maybe we can make

a shift. Yeah. And that's. I think that's going to take us.

I really do, because it's kind of like, did you ever see the

matrix? I'm such a nerd. Oh, my gosh. Do you ever see the

matrix? Yeah. Like, Sarah, where are you going with this? You crazy? Crazy. No,

no. I want to hear it. Let's do it. So in the Matrix, they're

talking about how there are humans who actually like the Matrix so much they'll try

to keep other people in it. And it's like the woman with the red dress

scene, if you haven't seen it, right, that they can distract you with stuff and

then you realize you're stuck. And that the red, the woman in the red dress

becomes an agent. Right. And I love that they're just really trying to

explain, like, other people inside the Matrix want to keep the

matrix going because it's what they know and it's comfortable. So don't rock the boat.

They're going to like. Right. And I think for all of us

as women, right, it, this is watching

where we say things like, she's so selfless. Where

we say things like, God, she's amazing. Look at everything she

does. Wait a minute. Is she okay? And am I rewarding

her for not being okay? And because I really, we

tend to have more conversations with each other than anything else. Right. So if we

can sort of do this with each other and support each other at this deeper.

A little bit more like, it's almost like lifting the veil of ignorance a little

bit. Right. Let's kind of crack through these invisible walls we've put up and see

if we can't, like, reach through one of those walls and grab another woman and

be like, you okay? I think it's gonna be important, you

know, this, I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but I think

it's worth mentioning. A good friend of mine, it was, I

believe it was the 7th anniversary of when she lost her son. This was just

recently she posted about it and she had this series of

pictures that said this is what grief looks like. And you

would see extreme tears,

sobbing, and then you would see smiles, and they're with

all the kids taking care of everything. And these

pictures that seemed like everything was fine. And

then at the end, it said, check on your strong

friends to make sure they're okay. And I thought, oh, my gosh,

right? Because sometimes I can say for

them that for me, like, if you. What does it look like when

Molly's in a crisis? You know what it looks like. Her hair's curled,

she's got a big smile on her face, and everything

looks amazing when Molly's in crisis. This is true, right? I mean,

not always. Certainly there are times, but, but I think it's important that

we- We really never know. And we do need to check in on each

other and support each other a hundred percent. Yeah.

Okay. Can I go on one more tangent? Yes. Okay. I have this horrible

fear you're going to roll your eyes at me, but are you by any chance

a Taylor Swift fan? Because I'm a little bit crazy. Okay. My

daughter is obsessed. And so I listen. I

listen with her. I'm there with you. I'm good. I

may not know it all, but. No, I mean, I have to be so straight

with you. I think Taylor Swift has become my roman empire. Like, as a woman

in business, I'm like, wow, she did it again. Oh, my gosh,

she just did it again. And with, always with such excellence and so much creativity

and staying true to herself. But she has a song on her latest album

called 'I Can Do It With a Broken Heart.' Oh, I know. Yes. My daughter-

Yes, I've cried and sung it in my car by myself. But yes. Like, it's

like one of those where it's like, for her to say that and share that

emotion, I was like, good on you, Taylor. Way to go. Way to teach these

young girls. This is what's expected of us. And just because you can.

And she ends that song with, I'm miserable

and no one even knows. And I'm like, oh, my

God. Like someone saying this out loud

and sharing that without shame. I was like, thank God. And I

just think it's really important. We got to keep continuing to pick up on that

message and share with each other and call each other out, which is what she

did, is I'm going to call out, you guys thought I was having the time

of my life. This is what was actually happening. And I think that is so

important. Yeah, I think so, too. I want

to, and in just a minute, I'm going to, I would love for you to

give, like, one or two suggestions of, like, where you think women can start

and then, of course, tell everyone where to find you. But one of the things

that I want to come kind of, again, full circle to the

beginning of this is that I, you know, because Sarah

was talking about, like, you don't have to choose, right? Like, I

can have what I want and take care of my family. And.

And one of the things that, that I

think is crucial for all of us as women to

know is I don't believe that we have to

choose between our business or our

passion, whatever that is, and our family.

And yet this is distinctly different

from having it all and doing it all and

being it all. And so, and this is where I just want to make a

plug for this because I don't, I don't think it's useful for us to feel

spread thin and believe that way. And yet I also don't think we're limited.

And I genuinely think the key is

identifying what are the things, that

small list of things that really matter to

me, and then what are all the things that I'm going to

let go of or get help with. Because I think that is

how you really can have and create

and achieve the things you truly desire without

overdoing it, being spread thin, worn out and exhausted. And there

is a difference. So I wanted to just, like, highlight that for all of you

women listening. I love that. I think that's so important.

Because it is this BS we see. I can do everything all the time.

No, no, no. That's not, that's not what we're saying. And I think sort

of challenging the people around us to bring

their best. Right. Is actually part of that. Yes.

Like, when I taught my kids how to do their laundry, I wrote, there's- It's

still on the laundry machine, which is funny because this was years ago- but it's

a pink post-it that says, 'expectations: that you will get these things

done, that there won't be clothes left here, this won't be happening. If we run

out of laundry detergent, you know, you'll make a note, like, those are the expectations.'

And I think sometimes when we're doing so much, and again, it's that high

functioning. Right. We see so much. We can do so much. It's like, well, I

can see it. And learning to take that pause and going, do

I have to be the one to do it? And I do this with people

in business all the time. Like, do you have to be the person doing

that? No. Okay. And I know it's super scary to hire people

initially, all that stuff. Of course, but when you're talking about inside the family unit,

you can practice there where it doesn't cost you money. If you want to run

a business, right. You can practice there and then move it into

business because especially as women were not compartmentalized.

So how you're choosing to let the household run and let others come in and

support is the same way that you'll end up running a business. So sort of

important that we can do it there. We can play, we can expand ourselves

and learn these skill sets of delegating without being

afraid we're going to break the bank, which I can get. So when

someone's starting out or they're nervous or they're like, I have to do everything, they're

not going to do it, right. I'm going to go, that's correct. They will not

do it, right? They won't. She's like, when I deal with entrepreneurs, they're like,

they won't send emails like me. I'm like, that's right. But they'll learn. It's

the same skill set. Right. And so it's really taking the time to teach and

trust. And the book I really love is called The Gift of Failure.

It's a really great book. It's got a broken pencil on the front and I

cannot remember the author's name. She's a middle school teacher. She's wonderful. And just how

much parents are doing for children, so they're not learning. Super

helpful. And I give it, I give it to people who are not, are not

parents as well. And I'm like, just read this because you need to do that

in your business, too, of allowing people to fail so they can figure out what's

going to work and what's not going to work. And understanding that when

we capture someone from failing, this happens a lot in

corporate. Right? Like, they can't fail. I'm going to fix it. It's like, oh, then

they don't learn. Now, obviously, if you're going to lose lots of money, of course

we go in and step, but, like, really explaining why someone had to step in.

What was going to happen. What would have happened to the load of laundry if

we kept the red lipstick in there? Like, I explained that all the way over

to, if you'd sent the email this way, we would have missed out on this

tracking. Oh, I. Okay. We can't allow

other people to step up and, and be challenged and support

us if we don't give them the. Opportunity to stretch themselves

100%. Yeah. Which can be scary to do. Totally.

It can be scary to do, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. This has been amazing. So will you just tell, I feel like

you've given so many suggestions and ideas and there are so many books

and everything, but if there were just one,

one piece of advice, one step that you would encourage

women to take, what would it be? Just trust

yourself. You've been told your whole life you

can't. That's a lie. You know, and it's always the

softest voice in the room. Oh, it

is. Always right. Always right. Yes.

Okay. Such a beautiful note to end on. Trust yourself.

You've got this. You don't have to do everything.

Okay, Sarah, where can everyone find you? And by the way, everything that

she's saying here will be in the show notes. But, but tell

the people where can they find you? Sure. Sure. So I'm over

at Sarahwalton.com. I tried to make that not hard. But you can catch me over

with an H and Walton. Like the family on tv or the Walmart

family. Depends on your age. So. Sarahwalton.com. I'm over

on YouTube, The Sarah Walton. Same with Instagram. The Sarah Walton. And just

come on over and hang out where I'm pretty much always on there or someone

on my team is always on there. So if you have a question or you

want to say hi or you want to get introduced, come and say hi. We

love meeting people and, and helping more women make more money so we can

do more for this world. Amazing. And your podcast,

Game on Girlfriends. Game on Girlfriend. You know, that came

from as I was a huge fan of West Wing. I don't know if you

ever watched it, but there's a scene where the president's about to go on stage

and lecture, and he likes to be stressed before he not lecture, debate. Before he

debates, he's about to walk on stage and his wife cuts his tie in

half, which causes this whole mayhem. The guys are running around, everybody's trying to get.

She slaps his butt on her way out and says, 'game on, boyfriend'. And I

was like, that's me. I was like, I will tell

you, the game is on. This is not your practice life. Let's go.

So that's where that came from. Amazing. I love it. All right. This has

been so great. Thank you so much, Sarah. Thank you so much for having

me, Molly. All right, thanks, everyone, and I'll talk with you next

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