While reading her daughter a bedtime story about Neil Armstrong, Katie Swindler had an epiphany informing her career in insights and design.

Join GreenBook's host, Lenny Murphy, and author of Life and Death Design, Katie Swindler as they explore behavioral science and inclusive design practices. At Allstate, Katie's approach to design takes into account the nuances presented by chaotic and stressful moments while factoring in considerations around ease of use, ethics, and diversity of experience.

You can reach out to Katie on LinkedIn.

Many thanks to Katie for being our guest. Thanks also to our producer, Natalie Pusch; our editor, James Carlisle; and this episode's sponsor, NAILBITER.

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