00:00 Welcome and Introduction

00:44 Parenting and Faith: Navigating Camps and Church Activities

03:35 The Importance of Church in Family Life

07:56 Discussion on Luke 11: Teachings and Interpretations

12:29 Confronting Religious Hypocrisy

16:00 Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts

16:29 Outro and Podcast Information

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Everybody, welcome back to Monday's

edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Hello, and hey, you're gonna hear

us tomorrow say, welcome to Monday's

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edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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You're gonna hear one of us tomorrow.

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Yeah, that's me.

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That's my bad.

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Because we recorded them out of

order and that is totally on me.

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So tomorrow you're not crazy.

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Just think Tuesday instead of Monday.

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I wouldn't have told you

guys just for the record.

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I just said No, they're not

even gonna notice anyway.

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It's okay.

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I'm more than one.

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Like, let's call attention.

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Do it.

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And then, if people do notice it,

then they won't be all consternated

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because they'll be like, oh,

well , they recognize that already.

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So we know now.

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You could still remind Pastor PJ Yeah.

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What day it is just for fun.

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And it doesn't throw off the podcast.

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We still did what the podcast

was supposed to be about, but.

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We thought it was Monday, so when you

hear us talking about yesterday being

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Sunday and everything else like that

tomorrow, we know now, but we didn't then.

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Okay.

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So I have a follow up question.

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Okay.

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And it's related to, I don't know,

several podcasts to go at this point.

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Now, do I force my kids to go to the

camps, to do the things, the vbs,

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the summer camps, the winter camps?

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Do I make them go to Wednesday nights?

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Here's the pushback and here's the.

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Hopefully helpful context.

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That gives you some sense of this.

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If you force 'em to do these things, you

are hardening their heart against this

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as opposed to giving them the chance to.

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Express their own interest

and desire to do it.

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And if they do go to the thing, if they

go there and , they're upset about it,

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they're forced to be doing those things

and really it feels like you're creating

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greater distance from them and their

salvation versus if you just say, Hey,

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if you want to, yeah, we'll pay for that.

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We'd love for you to go

and if, but if you don't.

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Don't worry about it, we're

not gonna force you to do that.

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Secondarily, so question one, do I force

'em to do the thing secondarily, do I

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ever use it as a punishment where I say,

you can't go to the thing now, you can't

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go to Wednesday night because you got in

trouble, or you can't go to the summer

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camp, the winter camp because you got

busted at school for this or that thing.

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So two different questions

related to several episodes.

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Yeah, you've heard me say a lot.

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Hey, do everything you can to put

your kids in the way of the gospel.

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I think as parents, that's one of

our primary roles is to put them in

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the path of the gospel where they're

gonna hear the gospel as many times

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and in as many different ways.

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So long as it's a faithful

presentation of it as we possibly can.

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So, when we're dealing with our

children who are unregenerate,

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that is that they're not saved, we.

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Shouldn't expect them to desire the

things that a safe person should desire.

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And one of the common graces of

God is in causing us to be born

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into a believing family is that he

enables us to participate in things

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because of the desires of our parents

who are saved and the San their

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sanctified desires on our behalf.

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So I would say you should

say no you're gonna go.

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You're gonna go and you

should say, you know what?

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You are gonna go to summer camp.

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You are gonna be involved

in Wednesday night.

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You are gonna be involved when

this event is happening, or

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that event is happening now.

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With regards to punishment I wouldn't.

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Keep your kid away from church

as a means of punishment.

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I don't think that

conveys, but they love it.

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The right thing.

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They great.

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Praise God.

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Find something else that's gonna hurt

and use that no food the whole week.

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Yeah.

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But to take the church away from them

is to again, miss an opportunity to

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put them in the path of the gospel.

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And that's our main job as

parents until they leave our house

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and we can't do that anymore.

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And think about it this way, when your

kids grow up and leave, if they're

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not walking with the Lord how much

are you gonna sit there and think,

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man if I could have just had one more

opportunity to put them in the path of

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the gospel, if I could have just sent

them to summer camp one more time, I

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would love to have that chance again.

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And that's where I would say, recognize

that that day might unfortunately

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come and Lord willing, it won't.

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Lord willing, your kids will all

be saved before they leave the

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house, but that day might come.

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And so take advantage of every

opportunity you have now to put

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them in the way of the gospel.

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Amen to that, bro.

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I would add that , I would never say,

Hey, you're gonna be forced to go Fair.

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I don't, I wouldn't say

that, but that would be.

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The obvious implication, I would

say, man, what a privilege it

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is that you get to do this.

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This is gonna, this is gonna be so great.

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I'm so glad that you get to do this.

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And what I wanna do is to shape the way

that my kids think about the church.

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Yes.

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One of the things that Carlin EZ did,

she's a, the wife of our sending pastor

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who got us here, she taught my wife

to talk to the kids about my job.

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In a way that's fitting to what we do.

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So I think one of the things that

I feared as a pastor is I don't

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want my kids to hate the church.

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I don't want them to begrudge the fact

that dad's always gone on this thing,

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or he is doing this for this people.

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He is at this hospital visiting

these people and he's not

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home with us having dinner.

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Carlin suggested to my wife that she

needs to go out of her way to help

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the kids see how valuable this is.

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To the church, how good it is

for our family to do it, and what

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an honor and a privilege it is.

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It is for us to be part of that.

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And I think Kristen has

done that remarkably well.

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And consequently, I think my kids really

enjoy the church and Kristen could have

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said, oh man, this guy's man, sorry,

dad's not gonna be home again today.

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Yeah.

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You know what a bummer.

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She didn't do that.

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And so I think how we talk about

the church and how we talk about

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the events is gonna really matter.

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Yeah.

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And whether or not you mean it too,

that's also gonna bleed if you're

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saying it because this is what I

should say versus this is how I feel.

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They're gonna feel that.

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So I think I would check my own heart

and say, what do I think about this?

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Do I believe that this is

what God wants me to do?

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And if so, then man,

I'm gonna say, look, I.

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Johnny Susie, this is a good thing.

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This is a great thing.

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Yeah.

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I believe in this for you.

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I think this is really good for you.

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So I'm sorry that you're not feeling as

excited as I am, but man I really want you

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to go and you're gonna have a great time.

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Yeah.

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Now they're obviously

gonna derive from that.

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I don't have a choice.

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Yes.

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But I'm gonna say it in a way that

hopefully shows and highlights

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the benefit over the compulsion.

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Yeah, that's good.

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That's good.

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What if though?

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My perspective is and we talked

about this a little bit on

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Sunday kingdom of Priests, right?

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So I'm the priest of my home.

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I've got my family's in church on

a Sunday morning, so I'm, we're

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there in church on Sunday morning.

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But then outside of that, I'm,

my approach is I've got it.

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And so because I'm the spiritual leader

in my home and the priest in my home,

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then I don't need to put my kids in

student ministry or on the summer camp.

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I love the church.

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I love the church.

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She's not perfect, but man, she's awesome.

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We have great people who love my kids.

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In fact, just the other night I had.

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I had rehearsal, so I was at home

with the musicians who were playing

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on Sunday, and my wife and most of

my kids were at my middle son, Adam.

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His, he had a concert

at Moore Middle School.

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I wasn't able to go, and I was bummed

about that 'cause I was doing rehearsal,

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but so many people from our church showed

up to support my son and I was so touched

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by that 'cause I thought, man, even though

I can't go, he's got people there that.

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Obviously care about him.

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Yeah.

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Love him.

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Yeah.

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He's never gonna begrudge that.

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And so I think the church

is often too lowly valued.

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And because we live in such an

individualistic western mentality

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of, it is just me and mine, as long

as my family's good, we're good.

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We so undervalue the nature

and the benefit of the

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church to our own detriment.

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And we do ourselves and our

kids a disservice and we say,

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look, you don't need that.

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You just need the family or you

just need yourself, or you just,

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you know, pull yourself up by

your own spiritual bootstraps.

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I know that's not the heart behind it

but that is, I think, the implication.

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You don't need the church.

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Yeah, and that's not true.

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It's simply just not true.

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And you need to avoid even

implying that with your behavior.

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And so I would say it is true that

you're the leader of your home.

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I would not deny that.

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And I would hope as a leader,

I could encourage you to make a

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decision for your kids that will

benefit them now and in the future.

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And one of those benefits is I

want you to value the church.

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I, man, I agree a hundred

percent in our job.

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And our intention is not to replace you.

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Amen.

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E amen.

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Especially in student ministry or

kids ministry, we are not saying, Hey,

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let us do the heavy lifting for you.

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No.

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Rather, we wanna come alongside you.

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We wanna co champion you as parents.

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And so.

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What our students are learning

is meant to come alongside you

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and help you disciple your kids.

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Not to say, we're gonna do it for you.

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You guys, your job is done.

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So benefit from that.

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Say, man with you.

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I want that.

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And I desire that as a dad.

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I love that my kids are

sitting under Lewis's teaching

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on Wednesday nights, right.

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With a quip and everything else.

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That's so good for them.

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So, yeah, take advantage of the church.

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A hundred percent.

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And as long as you're in a good church,

I guess I could say, if you're not

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sure about the church that you're

in and you're concerned about what's

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being taught, then that's a problem.

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Yeah, I agree.

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Let's talk about that.

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But if you by and large trust the church.

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Let the church be a support

to what you're doing.

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Yeah.

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And take part in all that Christ

has to offer to his people.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's talk Luke 11, which is

Monday's reading because today's Monday.

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Today is Monday.

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Tomorrow's not Monday.

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Tomorrow's Tuesday.

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It is Tuesday tomorrow.

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But today's Monday.

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So today's reading, Luke 11.

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It opens up with the

disciples going to Jesus.

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And we read this earlier in the

the Sermon on the Mount as well and

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asking, Jesus Lord, teach us to pray.

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And so Jesus is going to

go into the template of.

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What a prayer should look like.

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And I didn't mention this when we were

going through it earlier, but this is not

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to say that this is the only way to pray.

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This is not to say that this has to be

word for word, the only prayer you ever

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pray, but he's giving them a guide.

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He's giving them a template.

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And even in Matthew five, he talks

about right before he gets into this

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same idea, he says, you know what?

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You don't have to have all of

the verbose, wordy theologically

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deep and astute sayings and

statements and doctrinal statements.

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Your prayers.

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And if you look at the Lord's

Prayer, it's a very simple, basic

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prayer and there's something freeing

about that for us to say, okay, as

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long as we're revering him, right?

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We always wanna have,

maintain a high view of God.

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And when we come into his presence, we

don't want to come into his presence

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and say, Hey, daddy God or big man

upstairs we wanna be careful to revere

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him and give him the honor that he's

due, but then we can approach him with

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a childlike simplicity in our requests.

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And that's not a bad thing.

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In fact, he even talks about the.

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The fact of asking, seeking, knocking.

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We talked about that a few podcasts

ago, that idea that he's gonna give

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us what he sees as our real need in

that we may not understand our need

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just right in that, but he's gonna

know what we're really in need of,

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and he's gonna provide that for us.

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So as his children, we can come

before him, we can pray and we

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can pray with the simplicity.

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And that's such a refreshing

thing to know that he hears those

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prayers and responds to them.

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Let me just point out

what Jesus shows us here.

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His priorities come first.

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Do you see that?

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He starts off with father,

hallowed be your name.

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Mm-hmm.

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Your kingdom come.

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God wants his priorities

first in our lives.

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Yes.

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Everything else is secondary,

so I just want you to see that.

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We want to maintain a high view of God

because Jesus has a high view of God.

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We have a high view of God.

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That's a good point.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Interestingly, Luke goes on to

record in verses 14 through 23, the

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interaction of Jesus being accused

of casting out demons by Ible.

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And yet there's no mention here of

the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

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Versus in the other gospels

there was, why isn't there here?

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I'm not exactly sure, other than Luke

didn't decide that it was worth putting

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in or didn't think it, it served

his, not rifle's, not worth it guys.

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It didn't serve the purpose that

he was trying to communicate here.

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So, yeah, but it's that same interaction

and this is what we're talking about.

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We're talking about the same thing here.

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How about the spirits returning, Pierre,

that's always been something that has

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been a little bit, just strange for me

to read this passage, but it is weird.

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Yeah.

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What do we do with this?

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Is there any clear interpretation

you've heard on this one that's like,

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okay, yeah, that makes sense of this?

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I've heard a good interpretation

and it's an interpretation that I

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feel particularly comfortable with.

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And I think lots of people are just

unsure of where to put it and how it fits.

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But I, I think the best approach to

it that I've personally come across,

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and I'll just leave it at that.

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'cause I haven't studied it with

any degree of depth that I would

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feel really good about saying,

this is the way I see it for sure.

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But that it's speaking

about moral reformation.

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That it's possible for someone to morally

reform and to have a cleaned up life.

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And so they eradicate one demon, but

because they haven't been indwelled by

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the Holy Spirit, they make themselves

susceptible to the seven more that

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come back that are even stronger

and more powerful than the last.

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And so I think.

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This is a warning against a self moral

reformation where you clean yourself

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up, you get yourself fixed up, but you

really don't fix the issue, which is that

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you need to be indwelled by God's spirit

and not by some other foreign spirit.

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Yeah, that's, man, that's great.

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I see that for sure.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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I think in verses 27 through

28, we have a little bit of.

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A corrective to the Mary tree

of the Catholic Church here.

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When the people come to Jesus and

say, blessed is the womb that bore

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you and the breast at which you

nursed, and Jesus says, corrects them.

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He says, blessed rather are those

who hear the word of God and keep it.

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the reverence, the the worship of Mary,

the exaltation of Mary in the Catholic

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Church has a problem with this because

Jesus actually says he, he doesn't

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sit here and say, yeah, you know what?

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You're right.

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Mary is blessed.

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And you should consider her blessed.

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He corrects, he said, blessed instead.

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Blessed rather.

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Instead, consider blessed those that

hear the word of God and keep it.

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Now, he's not demeaning his mom.

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He's not saying she's

worthless or anything else.

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He's just saying, if you wanna know

who really is considered blessed it's

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whether it's her or anybody else, it's

people that hear the word and do it.

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Amen.

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We get the sign of Jonah again,

which we talked about, I think in

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a recent podcast episode there.

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And then the chapter after him

talking again about the light of

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the eyes, sermon on the mount.

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Same thing, same idea

is being conveyed there.

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The chapter ends with Jesus being

pretty direct with the religious

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leaders of the Jews, and he's gonna

call them out for their hypocrisy.

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He's gonna call them out for,

participating in the, what he's gonna

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say, the completion of the execution

carried out by their ancestors.

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The ancestors rejected the prophets.

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They're still rejecting the prophets.

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That's why they're building the tombs.

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They're just adding on, they're

piling on to the rejection

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that was in the Old Testament.

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They're committing the same problems.

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And sins again in the New Testament.

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But Jesus is going to hold

them accountable for rejecting

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basically the entirety of

written revelation at this time.

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And that's what it means in verse 51.

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When he says, from able to Zechariah from

the earliest voice to the last voice,

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he says, you've rejected all of it.

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And in the martyrs, the ones that

were killed from the earliest to the

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last, you've had a hand in all of it

because of your rejection of them.

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And so Jesus is that the

tension is escalating.

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Between Jesus and the Pharisees, Jesus

is getting ready to step more and

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more into the direct conflict knowing

what the father is leading him into.

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Can you explain why Jesus reserves

some of his most scarring and painful

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rebuke for the religious leaders?

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It doesn't seem like he ever does this

to anybody else except for these guys.

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Why do you think that is?

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I think it's what we

talked about, I think.

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In tomorrow's episode, I think it's what

we talked about in tomorrow's episode.

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It's back to the future

language right there, right?

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It's.

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The one who has been given much

is gonna have much required.

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These, the expectations were more for

them because of their knowledge base.

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They were in a position of authority.

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They were leading, they

were the shepherds.

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If you think about the Old Testament,

when God confronted the religious

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leaders in the Old Testament, he

said, you're not doing your job.

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You're not shepherding the people.

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You're getting fat off the people.

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Instead of leading them and

loving them the way they're.

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You're supposed to do.

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So they're in a position where God

expected a lot of them, and they

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were gonna be held accountable

for that and they were failing.

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And so that I think is why Jesus

goes so sharply against them, because

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they should have known better.

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Amen To that.

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On top of that, I would say that these

guys exemplify the exact opposite of what

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Jesus wants, which is those who profess

the truth but don't actually live it out.

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Right.

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And that's what he charges them with.

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And this is what we know is

the sin of hip hypocrisy.

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Everybody hates it and.

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Most often people charge church

members with this all the time.

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Mm-hmm.

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And there's a certain element where

you can say, well, yeah, none of us

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lives up to the truth that we profess.

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But we can say that by God's

grace, we're not who we used to be.

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And there's increasing growth

and becoming more like Christ.

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The challenge with this is

that you're gonna see this

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used against Christians a lot.

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Like you guys are just like the Pharisees.

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You know, Jesus loves sinners,

and why don't you love me?

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Why can't you treat me the way Jesus

treated the sinners of his day?

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He excoriates these guys because of

their lack of ability to take the truth

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that they had and apply it rightly,

and that they're raging hypocrites.

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They loved the outside,

they loved the show.

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They didn't love the actual heart

behind it, which is the problem.

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So it is important for you

to take a look at yourself.

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With some regularity, maybe not

daily, but to say, am I walking the

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walk or am I just talking the talk?

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There's lots of Christians who could

say it, right, but maybe not live it.

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Right?

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Don't be that person.

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On top of that, you'll also have to

remember what Pastor PJ says tomorrow

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about whether or not I'm living it out.

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Am I taking in?

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All that I am taking

in my, am I processing?

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Am I digesting?

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Am I applying it?

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And sadly to say, I think most of us

would be able to say I ingest a lot more

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teaching than I actually put to work.

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Yeah.

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And that's true for all of us

because none of us can be Jesus.

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But we should be saying,

how can I grow from this?

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How can I let me have a tender

heart, Lord, make me responsive,

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make me accepting of these words.

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And help me to humbly

apply them day by day.

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We need the Lord for this.

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We need the spirit to

indwell us to do this.

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Otherwise we are the Pharisees.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's pray.

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God we ask that you'd keep us from being,

that we ask, that you'd keep us from being

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a hypocritical church, a sacral church.

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We ask that you would keep us from

taking all of the information, the word

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of God the scriptures that we ingest

and not applying it, not living it out.

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Rather God.

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We wanna be a church that takes

in your word and does apply it.

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We wanna be a church that is.

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Investigating and checking to

see are we walking the walk

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and not just talking the talk.

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We wanna be a church that is full

of genuine converts that are growing

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in christlikeness every single day.

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So we pray by your grace.

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You enable us to do that, and

we pray this in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep in your Bibles tuning again

tomorrow for another edition of the

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to know is gonna be pretty good.

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We hope it is.

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Bye bye.

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said